It would be a great move if they want to maintain a consistent drop ratio.If we cut Crabs do we go after A Robinson?
With Gruden it’s definitely playoffs or bustLet's start looking ahead to a bounce-back 2018 with a high draft pick, new head coach (Gruden?!?!) and offensive coordinator.
Playoffs or bust in 2018.
It will be a smooth transition!It would be a great move if they want to maintain a consistent drop ratio.
Agreed. JDR had his chances. The losses are not all JDRs fault but this team looked flat and off all season. There was way too much talent on O for the lack of points on the scoreboard.Feel bad for JDR, but he just didn't get the job done. Bringing JDR back would have just been delaying his firing a year and I give Mark a lot of credit for not messing around and not wasting another year and going out and getting a big time coach.
Patterson is always going to have more real football value than FF value. Great kickoff returner and always has to be accounted for by the defense when he's on the field. He'll have a couple long TDs on end arounds or bubble screens or whatever, but he's never going to get more than 3-4 touches per game and good luck picking the game where one of them goes for the long TD.Any value in Patterson if Crabtree moves on?
I just can’t get over how quickly this whole thing seems to be happening. Hope this doesn’t end with a nightmare of it all falling apart and us left with only a DC on staff and having to start again.Joe Arrigo
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Gruden is expected to name John Morton his OC, Rich Gannon his QB coach. His preferred choice is Cinci DC Paul Guenther, but he is also up for the Bengals potential head coaching job. Gus Bradley is also in the mix for the DC position as well
Joe Arrigo
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I was told by sources the contract numbers for Gruden is “in the 5 year, $50M range at this time.”
#Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie will remain in his position and work in tandem with Gruden on all personnel & draft decisions.
Yea it would be embarrassing if it all fell apart.I just can’t get over how quickly this whole thing seems to be happening. Hope this doesn’t end with a nightmare of it all falling apart and us left with only a DC on staff and having to start again.
Grudges and the Raiders never should have separated. what could have been.........Way too much smoke and specifics being talked about to not have a fire going.
Del Rio lost his chance when he retained Norton and let Musgrave go to promote Downing. The D still under performed and thr O greatly regressed with both clearly lack of ability from the respective cordinators being major reasons.
I loved Gruden as our coach before. Love him being our leader again.
Grudges indeedGrudges and the Raiders never should have separated. what could have been.........
Morton's scheme is all about trying to score points.Chadstroma said:What do we know about Morton's schemes for offense and Guenther's for D?
Nobody likes you.Morton's scheme is all about trying to score points.
Guenther, OTOH, really focuses on trying to stop the other team from scoring points.
It's a Yin and Yang thing, which is science. Personally I prefer faith based coaching strategies, particularly if they involve smiting and such.
Gruden wouldn't have any of that poo.32 Counter Pass said:Another duplicate post from the 2017 discussion:
"Lack of guidance in Raiders locker room made Jack Del Rio firing necessary - Silver And Black Pride" via http://TeamStre.am by Bleacher Report
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The stuff about Lynch is particularly disturbing. Hopefully Gruden will put an end to that nonsense or an end to him as a Raider.
Agree, that would be fantastic, but Gannon always struck me as much more of a Chiefs homer, way more critical of the Raiders in his broadcast career, etc. So wonder if he's similarly motivated, and would be really hard to incent. Really hard to move from broadcasting cash to QB coach.DocHolliday said:Seems like Gannon would make a great QB coach and mentor for Carr. Gannon definitely got everything he could out of his limited physical ability. That's not a slight on Gannon. He is one of my favorite Raiders. He wasn't real big and didn't have a cannon arm but worked his tail off to succeed. It was so easy to root for him.
Agree the defense showed remarkable improvement after they let KNJ go. The team got a lot more pressure on the QB and the defense only allowed more then 20 pts once after KNJ's dismissal (I am not counting week 17). Smith's play was elevate after the coaching change and I would like to see him return. His criminal case is pending so his status is uncertain. The quickest way to improve any defensive deficiencies is to improve the pass rush. This can happen via the draft or free agency. They just need to get someone to compliment Mack. (Think the Chargers with Bosa and Ingram.)We can now say 12-4 in 2016 was a fluke. But... At least 9 of those wins can be directly attributed to the play of Derek Carr. If the coaches threw him under the bus as it's been reported, then I'm glad they're out. How about getting him a RT he can trust. How about putting a halfway decent defense on the field in 2016 the first 10-11 games of 2017. How about NOT firing his OC he did so well with. Carr and Mack (still holding out hope for Cooper) are the only true stars on the roster. Other than those 3, what has Reggie done to get this organization out of the doldrums? Ok, he can be given credit for fixing the salary cap hell he inherited. But wasn't that the easy part? Anyone can tear something down, only a great GM can build something great.
Obviously, KNJ had to go, and the defense improved under Pagano, but I still question the serious lack of talent on defense. Especially up the gut. No emphasis as been put on DT or LB.
And I have to call into question the draft choices and FAs brought in to rebuild the secondary.
What I'm saying is, yes JDR, Dowling and KNJ failed miserably, but where's the accountability for Reggie and the scouting dept?
Hayden- Bust only because the Raiders don't get to reap the benefits of his improved play. Why wasn't he retained? They sure could've used him.
Joseph- Yeah, I know, he's a hitter, so what? Those types of players due to safety rules aren't as important as they used to be. Gimme a safety with great instincts, cover skills any day over a "hitter" in today's NFL.
Conley/Obi- The mystery injuries of these two really puzzled me this year. How does a "shin" injury keep a guy out all season? Just strange to me.
Smith/Amerson- Ok I've been all over Smith since day one, I don't like him. I think he's slow and doesn't put in the effort to be better. But I have to give him credit, he played much better under Pagano. Amerson was a non-factor this season.
If Gruden becomes the next head coach, I hope the message is loud and clear to Reggie. Don't screw up the 1st and 2nd rounds again! Derek Carr is his only 2nd rounder worth a damn! Fire all the coaches you want, but they can only do so much with TJ Carrie, Morrow, Lee, Ward etc etc... No talent + no scheme = failure...
I do agree to some extent the defense is close. That was proven when Pagano took the reigns. Better scheme, better results. I still go back to Reggie and his scouts. There are plenty of good young DBs in the league that they either chose to pass on or not go after: Lattimore, William Jackson, Burns, White, Bouye, Rhodes. And I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting off the top of my head. Again, my point, yes KNJ wasn't very good. But neither has the talent evaluation IMO.Agree the defense showed remarkable improvement after they let KNJ go. The team got a lot more pressure on the QB and the defense only allowed more then 20 pts once after KNJ's dismissal (I am not counting week 17). Smith's play was elevate after the coaching change and I would like to see him return. His criminal case is pending so his status is uncertain. The quickest way to improve any defensive deficiencies is to improve the pass rush. This can happen via the draft or free agency. They just need to get someone to compliment Mack. (Think the Chargers with Bosa and Ingram.)
I agree that Reggie missed on some FA opportunities. Signing Zac Brown would have been a huge boost for the defense as example.
Reggie also missed on his first two picks last year--at least contributing in 2017. I am optimistic that Conley will prove to be a good pick. Obi remains a big question mark.
Overall, I don't think the defense is that far away from being very good. They pick at 9 or 10, depending on the coin flip. They have a great chance of landing Linebacker Roquan Smith, who would immediately the middle of the defense and the pass rush. Getting another pass rusher to compliment Mack and I think the defense will be very good.
On the other side of the ball, the team needs a dynamic RB to help Carr, and keep the defense off the field. Nothing kills defensive efficiency like multiple 3 and outs.
From what I have read the Raiders are also working on buying the Bali Hai land across from the stadium land they already purchased which will be used for parking. The Bali Hai land is a large piece of land that should accommodate most if not all parking concerns.http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/city-vegas-oks-offering-land-raiders-facility-52119744
Practice Facility and Headquarters will be in Henderson, NV. For those who don't know Henderson is next to Las Vegas to the Southeast. The two towns blend into each other without separation.
"The Oakland Raiders came one step closer Wednesday to securing the land the team needs for its new headquarters and practice facility near Las Vegas, and at a steep discount.
Officials in suburban Henderson approved a resolution that allows the city to move forward with a direct sale of 55 acres (22 hectares) to the Raiders for more than $6 million — half the land's appraised value. The city is using a Nevada law that allows for no-bid sales at under-market prices when they are considered to be in the public interest. Under the agreement discussed during the City Council meeting, the team would pay $6.05 million for the land near Henderson Executive Airport. The land — near the southwest corner of St. Rose Parkway and Executive Airport — has an appraised value of $12 million.
"This is an opportunity to take the city of Henderson to a new level," Assistant City Manager Greg Blackburn said during the city council meeting ahead of the resolution vote. "It's hard to put a dollar value to what this does to help us for the future."
The Raiders have promised that the venue will create an estimated 250 full-time jobs not counting players. The team will spend about $75 million to build the complex.
The team wants to kick off its 2020 season at a 65,000-seat domed stadium built partially with taxpayers' money across the freeway from the Las Vegas Strip. The team in May paid $77.5 million for the 62-acre (25-hectare) site and hosted a glitzy groundbreaking ceremony in November.
Guests of hotels and other lodging facilities in the Las Vegas area are contributing $750 million to the project through a room tax increase. The Raiders and the NFL are expected to contribute $500 million to the project, while the team has also secured a $600 million bank loan for construction.
Henderson's city council must vote again next month to give final approval to the offer.
Henderson officials said the city will benefit from property taxes collected on the land and additional spending from visitors and team clients. City staff said similar projects have created an estimated $210 million tax impact over a decade after the venues are fully built.
Not all residents were supportive of the city's decision.
"The Raiders have been Gypsies over the years, starting in Oakland, then moving to El Segundo (LA) for a few years, then back to Oakland and now Las Vegas. Where to next?" Henderson resident Adrian Woodhouse wrote the city council in an email.
On Wednesday, commissioners in Clark County approved a development agreement with the team that spells out public safety and infrastructure improvements in and around the Raiders stadium.
The agreement calls for widening sidewalks, improving roadways, installing and modifying traffic signals, and building any needed pedestrian bridges.
The team agreed to install about $1.4 million worth of public safety equipment at the stadium and an emergency operations center. The document outlining the development agreement did not include a finalized plan for the thousands of county-mandated parking spaces."
freaking LOVE this dude ...hes a character for sure ...so much energy and really smart ...and isnt afraid to say whats on his mindWell, if it IS Gruden, Carr will get every chance to show who he is--for good or bad. Hopefully he's not Chris Simms at 8:15 in this clip . By the end he's hyperventilating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfCyfiL1FTs&feature=player_embedded
Great Gruden-QC "camaraderie" from 8:15 to 13:20.
2002
Round Pick Player Position College
3 86 Marquise Walker WR Michigan
4 119 Travis Stephens RB Tennessee
5 157 Jermaine Phillips DB Georgia
6 193 John Stamper DE South Carolina
7 233 Tim Wansley DB Georgia
7 250 Tracey Wistrom TE Nebraska
7 254 Aaron Lockett WR Kansas State
7 255 Zack Quaccia C Stanford
2003
Round Pick Player Position College
2 64 Dewayne White DE Louisville
3 97 Chris Simms QB Texas
4 130 Lance Nimmo OT West Virginia
4 133 Austin King C Northwestern
5 168 Sean Mahan OG Notre Dame
6 205 Torrie Cox DB Pittsburgh
2004
Round Pick Player Position College
1 15 Michael Clayton WR Louisiana State
3 79 Marquis Cooper LB Washington
4 111 Will Allen DB Ohio State
5 146 Jeb Terry OG North Carolina
6 181 Nate Lawrie TE Yale
7 206 Mark Jones WR Tennessee
7 228 Casey Cramer TE Dartmouth
7 252 Lenny Williams DB Southern
2005
Round Pick Player Position College
1 5 Carnell Williams RB Auburn
2 36 Barrett Ruud LB Nebraska
3 71 Alex Smith TE Stanford
3 91 Chris Colmer OT North Carolina State
4 107 Dan Buenning OG Wisconsin
5 141 Donte Nicholson DB Oklahoma
5 155 Larry Brackins WR Pearl River CC (MS)
6 178 Anthony Bryant DT Alabama
7 221 Rick Razzano RB Mississippi
7 225 Paris Warren WR Utah
7 231 Hamza Abdullah DB Washington State
7 253 J.R. Russell WR
2006
Round Pick Player Position College
1 23 Davin Joseph OG Oklahoma
2 59 Jeremy Trueblood OT Boston College
3 90 Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame
4 122 Alan Zemaitis DB Penn State
5 156 Julian Jenkins DE Stanford
6 194 Bruce Gradkowski QB Toledo
6 202 T.J. Williams TE North Carolina State
7 235 Justin Phinisee DB Oregon
7 241 Charles Bennett DE Clemson
7 244 Tim Massaquoi TE Michigan
2007
Round Pick Player Position College
1 4 Gaines Adams DE Clemson
2 35 Arron Sears OT Tennessee
2 64 Sabby Piscitelli DB Oregon State
3 68 Quincy Black LB New Mexico
4 106 Tanard Jackson DB Syracuse
5 141 Greg Peterson DT North Carolina Central
6 182 Adam Hayward LB Portland State
7 214 Chris Denman OT Fresno State
7 245 Marcus Hamilton DB Virginia
7 246 Kenneth Darby RB Alabama
Wouldn't Reggie still have some say in the draft?Yeah, that's pretty rough. Hopefully the last ten years of working with college prospects and the MNF gig have given him a better eye for talent. And by the MNF job I mean he's seeing the league from a different angle, talking to different coaches and nfl personnel, maybe he's developed those gm skills more fully.