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That was one of the most bizarre decisions I've ever seen, including how they went about arriving at it.If they kept lambo they eould of been at least 10n6..probably 11n5....
Could use some lb help as well.Gr00vus said:Really hope they keep addressing the lines, both of them.
Opponents:2018 looks like a rough season. The schedule looks pretty rough.
Games vs 2017 playoff teams: 5 (Chiefs, Titans at neutral site, @Chiefs, @Bills, @Rams, @Steelers)
Games vs teams with playoff expectations: 5 (Ravens, 49ers, Raiders, @Raiders, @Seahawks)
On this. Just thought I would point out again how badly Telesco handled the Weddle situation. Regardless of how much Weddle contributed to the situation, Telesco treated him poorly. More importantly Weddle has been a much stronger performer than the Chargers' free safeties in the 2 seasons since he left, and he is halfway through a 4 year, $26M contract. That looks like a solid bargain at this point, given the market for free agent safeties these days.I am guessing Boston will sign a 4 year deal for $35-40M, give or take. I assume his 2018 cap number would be about $8M. This is a big enough contract that the team should probably consider looking at other options... in fact, I am now thinking I would prefer Lamarcus Joyner, who will probably sign for 5 years for $50M or so, and probably wouldn't cost too much more on the 2018 cap. PFF graded Joyner as the #3 safety this year. All that said, this doesn't seem like Telesco's style, so I am guessing it will be Boston.
So had Inman had 2 more catches with the Bears, the Chargers would have had the Bears' 7th round pick, which is the 6th pick in the 7th round, #224 overall. According to PFF, he had 5 drops, so those were the difference. Not a huge loss, but disappointing to have gotten nothing out of that trade.Protected pick: The Bears retained the conditional 2018 seventh-round draft pick they offered the Chargers in the midseason trade for receiver Dontrelle Inman.
For the Chargers to have gotten the pick, Inman needed 25 receptions for the Bears, according to a person with knowledge of the trade. He finished with 23 in eight games...
God I hope not. He is done, and if LT can play for another team, go ahead and let Gates. its meaningless reallyI also suspect the team is going to re-sign Gates for about $3.5M in 2018. I'm not sure I think that is great value, but I do not want to see Gates finish his career in another uniform.
I would prefer that Gates retire, but he actually played surprisingly well last season. And, personally, I would rather that the Chargers had worked something out with Tomlinson to stay; they replaced him with Ryan Mathews, who was ultimately a disappointment.God I hope not. He is done, and if LT can play for another team, go ahead and let Gates. its meaningless really
Didn't they draft two OG last year? and one got hurt. if that Vita Vea D lineman is available I would think they should take him in round1, dream scenario though is Roquan Smith, bolts could use and upgrade in the middle of that LB core as well.What will be around for them at interior D line or O line in the draft? I know I've been asking this every year for a while now, I keep hoping this year is the year they actually address these things with some guys with potential instead of depending on vet retreads.
IMO their significant needs are DT, C, RT, FS, and PK. I also think they would benefit a lot from a playmaker at Sam LB instead of Emanuel, though he is serviceable, and they need a quality backup RB.What will be around for them at interior D line or O line in the draft? I know I've been asking this every year for a while now, I keep hoping this year is the year they actually address these things with some guys with potential instead of depending on vet retreads.
Agree on Vea. Also agree on Smith but it seems very unlikely he would make it to 1.17, and I certainly don’t think the Chargers should trade up.Didn't they draft two OG last year? and one got hurt. if that Vita Vea D lineman is available I would think they should take him in round1, dream scenario though is Roquan Smith, bolts could use and upgrade in the middle of that LB core as well.
Smith could be considered undersized....wishful thinkingAgree on Vea. Also agree on Smith but it seems very unlikely he would make it to 1.17, and I certainly don’t think the Chargers should trade up.
I'll find it incredibly difficult to continue rooting for this team if that happens. Fortunately, I think the possibility is quite remote. (I know you were joking, but sometimes it feels like other people's jokes end up being the Chargers' reality.)So they'll take another WR in the 1st round.
Here are the guys I've seen projected for the Chargers at those spots with the first pick:What will be around for them at interior D line or O line in the draft?
It seems likely that these players will be gone before 1.17:Here are the guys I've seen projected for the Chargers at those spots with the first pick:
DT Vita Vae - Washington
DT Maurice Hurst - Michigan
DT Da'Ron Payne - Alabama
OT Orlando Brown - Oklahoma
OT Mike McGlinchey - Notre Dame
Other players mentioned frequently:
LB Rashaan Evans - Alabama
LB Roquan Smith - Georgia
LB Tremaine Edmunds - Virginia Tech
S Derwin James - Florida State
I heard on the radio yesterday that teams had to release 5th year option players by 4 pm EST yesterday, or their salaries became guaranteed. I have seen no news on Verrett, so I assume he is now locked in for 2018 at $8.5M guaranteed. Stupid move IMO.As mentioned, the team should drop Verrett's 5th year option and let him walk if he can pass his physical. No way he is worth $8.5M to the Chargers if Hayward, Williams, and King are healthy. It was not smart to pick up his option in the first place.
Well, the Chargers signed Virgil Green to a 3 year deal. It seems likely he is a replacement for Cumberland, and McGrath will still be back. If the team goes with 3 TEs, that means they chose Green over Culkin. Seems like another questionable move IMO.Here is how I would like to see the offensive roster shape up:
Normally I like to allocate 24 roster spots to offense. This is only 23, leaving room for another RB, TE, or possibly OL, though I think carrying 10 OL is extreme. I suppose it will be Gates or a 4th RB.
- QB (2) - Rivers, Jones
- RB (3) - Gordon, Ekeler, TBD rookie
- FB (1) - Watt
- WR (5) - Allen, Benjamin, Tyrell Williams, Mike Williams, Geremy Davis or TBD rookie
- TE (3) - Henry, McGrath, Culkin
- OL (9) - LT Okung, LG Feeney, C TBD veteran free agent, RG Lamp, RT TBD veteran free agent, C/G Pulley, C/G Slauson, T Hairston, T Tevi
Haven't heard anything about Hairston, but the team signed Schofield to a 2 year deal. This is fine, provided they signed him to be a depth player and not the starting RT.Hairston was placed on IR due to blood clots. If he is healthy enough to return, IMO the team should keep (or re-sign him if he is a UFA) and let Schofield walk. If he isn't, I suppose Schofield could be re-signed, but he isn't very good.
I no longer think the team should re-sign Boston, but the team signed Phillips to a 1 year deal, as expected, and I think that was fine, as long as they aren't planning to start him at FS.Phillips didn't play great, but his role was mostly to play in place of a linebacker in passing situations, often as the 6th DB on the field. That put him out of position against the run, but he was there more to play coverage, and he did that pretty well.Like Boston,I think it makes sense to re-sign him if the price is reasonable, and I expect Phillips will be cheaper than Boston.
As expected, the team placed a second round tender on Tyrell. I would actually rather have a second round pick, but I don't think any other team will pay that to get him. Given that, the team should re-sign him.Offer WR Tyrell Williams a second round tender and re-sign him for 1 year for $3M
The team placed a right of first refusal tender on McCain. The fact they did this rather than a second round tender suggests they see his value below the ~$2.9M price tag of a second round tender. I agree with that, but I think there is a good chance he will draw an offer from another team. In that case, if the Chargers don't match, he is gone. I would like him back, but only if the price is reasonable. I think many fans overrated how well he played last season, though it is definitely true that he showed some potential.Do not tender DE McCain, but re-sign him for $1M
Even though I would have waited on Hayward, I think he is a great player, so extending him is still a good thing. I was just hoping to hold his cap number down for 2018 in order to make room for another strong free agent, but it appears that isn't happening. I haven't seen details of his contract extension yet, so hopefully his cap number for this season didn't go up too much. Regardless, glad he will be a Charger for at least 4 more seasons.all of this convinces me that the team should probably wait to deal with Hayward next offseason. If they extend him now, his 2018 cap number of $5.1M would go up by several million, probably to at least $12M. I'd rather see them get the 2018 value his play delivers on his current contract and then decide if he warrants a franchise tag, long term contract, or just let him walk.
I guess this was wishful thinking. Altogether, this start to free agency seems pretty underwhelming. Telesco is going to need to have a great draft if the Chargers are going to contend within Rivers' remaining window.I would like to see the Chargers sign one premier FA to address one of DT, C, RT, or FS
Thinking more about this, maybe I missed something that could make this move more reasonable.I heard on the radio yesterday that teams had to release 5th year option players by 4 pm EST yesterday, or their salaries became guaranteed. I have seen no news on Verrett, so I assume he is now locked in for 2018 at $8.5M guaranteed. Stupid move IMO.As mentioned, the team should drop Verrett's 5th year option and let him walk if he can pass his physical. No way he is worth $8.5M to the Chargers if Hayward, Williams, and King are healthy. It was not smart to pick up his option in the first place.
Not sure what to think about this. Pouncey was below average last season, at least per PFF. Here are his grades and PFF ranks among 46 graded centers last year:M Pouncey coming in for a visit.....not bad kick the tires.....
The coaching staff got more out of the talent on the roster last season. I say odds favor that if they like Pouncey and sign him, they will get more out of him than what he showed last year. You have to be excited about the future after what we saw last year.Not sure what to think about this. Pouncey was below average last season, at least per PFF. Here are his grades and PFF ranks among 46 graded centers last year:
All that said, he is clearly better than Pulley, who was arguably the worst center in the NFL last season. And he is much better at pass blocking, which is key. I just don’t know if he is worth $7M to $9M per year, as is being speculated he will command.
Would the OL definitely be significantly better as LT Okung, LG Feeney, C Pouncey, RG Lamp, RT TBD rather than LT Okung, LG Slauson, C Feeney, RG Lamp, RT TBD? I think it would be better, but enough better to warrant spending $7M to $9M on Pouncey rather than $2M on Slauson?
I hope so.
No doubt. With a competent kicker entering the season, the Chargers would have made the playoffs. The team is a contender IMO and has about a 2-3 year window to push for a deep playoff run. After that, Rivers ages out, Bosa gets paid, the young DBs (Williams, King, Verrett) are gone or making bigger money, etc.We ended the year 6-1 with 4 blowouts. Don't forget that.
The Chargers reportedly signed Pouncey for 2 years, $15M, $10M guaranteed.#Dolphins FA C Mike Pouncey visits #Chargers today, so worth noting: Miami is trying to improve its culture, but cutting Pouncey wasn’t part of that: He got rave reviews for leadership & toughness. He was cut because MIA paid 2 players (Sitton/Kilgore) what it was paying Pouncey.
Liuget is average...the roids didn't help. cut him and kick the tires on Hankins? hes still unsigned. Keep Mebane then.Great, DT Liuget has been suspended the first 4 games for violating the drug policy. I was advocating for the team to keep him, not sure what to think now.
If they cut him prior to June 1, they could save $6.5M against the 2018 cap. If they designate him as a post June 1 cut, they could save $8M against the 2018 cap by shifting $1.5M of the dead money to the 2019 cap. Given what I posted above, that suggests they would have up to $18.7M to spend without any other cuts (besides Mebane and Hairston) or restructures. I suppose they could do that and go after Suh. That doesn't really seem like Telesco's style, though.
Or perhaps the team could push Liuget to restructure to open up more cap space.
Thoughts?
Can't keep Mebane. He was one of the absolute worst interior DL in the league last season, and his cap hit is $5.5M. But in my view, the plan to replace him was always via the 1.17 pick.Liuget is average...the roids didn't help. cut him and kick the tires on Hankins? hes still unsigned. Keep Mebane then.
Draft a NT/Dline in first round
Updating a previous report, Detroit Lions DT Sylvester Williams signed a one-year deal with the Lions worth $3.5 million, according to a source. Williams can make an additional $1.5 million with incentives.