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25 minutes ago, [scooter] said:

Huh. You seemed to think they were pretty valid when you cited them here. And here. And here. And here. And here. And here.

I could go on and on and on but it's not worth my time. You've been sufficiently :own3d:.

 

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Trolls gonna troll. 

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27 minutes ago, [scooter] said:

Huh. You seemed to think they were pretty valid when you cited them here. And here. And here. And here. And here. And here.

I could go on and on and on but it's not worth my time. You've been sufficiently :own3d:.

 

Impressive, but not worth it

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1 hour ago, [scooter] said:

Huh. You seemed to think they were pretty valid when you cited them here. And here. And here. And here. And here. And here.

I could go on and on and on but it's not worth my time. You've been sufficiently :own3d:.

 

While appreciated for comedic factor, the reality is, this is going to be 30ish minutes of time wasted that you'll never get back GB.

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9 hours ago, The Commish said:

While appreciated for comedic factor, the reality is, this is going to be 30ish minutes of time wasted that you'll never get back GB.

I'll allow it

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/lawmakers-launch-probe-complex-web-alleged-ties-nra/story?id=61137356&cid=social_twitter_abcn

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We are disturbed by the lack of transparency the NRA has demonstrated surrounding the December 2015 trip to Moscow,” wrote Lieu and Rice on Feb. 15. “Furthermore, we are concerned that this extends to other allegations that have been made against the organization as it relates to Russia.”

 

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On 2/1/2019 at 12:40 PM, [scooter] said:

Huh. You seemed to think they were pretty valid when you cited them here. And here. And here. And here. And here. And here.

I could go on and on and on but it's not worth my time. You've been sufficiently :own3d:.

 

You and Squistion are the only 2 posters I've ever seen use that particular emoji

That's somethin

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35 minutes ago, Cowboysfan8 said:

You and Squistion are the only 2 posters I've ever seen use that particular emoji

That's somethin

Possibly the most apt use of an emoji in the 25 year history of Internet emojis.

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2 hours ago, Cowboysfan8 said:

You and Squistion are the only 2 posters I've ever seen use that particular emoji

That's somethin

:own3d::own3d:

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11 hours ago, Cowboysfan8 said:

You and Squistion are the only 2 posters I've ever seen use that particular emoji

That's somethin

:own3d:

:own3d:

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17 hours ago, Cowboysfan8 said:

You and Squistion are the only 2 posters I've ever seen use that particular emoji

That's somethin

That was your offering to the thread and its information in its current setting.

You make us all worse.

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NRA officer enlisted a Sandy Hook truther to sow doubt about Parkland shooting, emails show
 

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In the week after a gunman opened fire at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., killing 17 students and staff members and renewing calls for gun control, the National Rifle Association fell silent.

But the day after the Feb. 14, 2018, shooting, an NRA training coordinator based at the group’s headquarters in Fairfax, Va., sprang into action behind the scenes. He sought information countering the official version of the grisly, and familiar, events, which involved a lone gunman and a legally purchased firearm.

For support, he turned to Wolfgang Halbig, a conspiracy theorist intent on proving that the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 26 students and staff members dead in Newtown, Conn., in 2012, was a hoax.

“You have included me with a lot of Information since the Sandy Hook Incident and I do appreciate it very much,” the NRA coordinator, Mark Richardson, wrote on Feb. 15, 2018, according to emails published by HuffPost on Wednesday. “Concerning what happened in Florida yesterday, I have been asking the question and no one else seems to be asking it.”

He pushed the deluded idea that the gunman, a former student at the school, had not acted alone, posing questions about how he had gained entry and where he had kept his equipment.

“To pull the fire alarm, he had to already be inside. Correct?” he wrote. “When my Children were in school the only way into the school was through the front door and past the main office.”

As with Sandy Hook, Richardson observed, “There is so much more to this story. He was not alone.”

Halbig, a former Florida state trooper and school administrator, replied the following day, inviting Richardson to call him to discuss the incident.

The subject line of his emailed response included, in all caps, the name Avielle Richman, one of the 20 students killed in Newtown. For years, Halbig has accused Richman’s parents of falsifying the first-grade girl’s death, writing on his website that their intention was “to steal money from hard-working Americans.”

Jeremy Richman, her father, a neuroscientist who had founded the Avielle Foundation in his daughter’s name, died in an apparent suicide on Monday, following the apparent suicides of two teenage survivors of the Parkland shooting.

The deaths returned the nation’s focus to the two communities, which have been besieged by online abuse and threats stoked by conspiracy theories that depict the victims as “crisis actors.”

But the correspondence shows how an officer of the NRA saw these theories as potentially useful to his cause. The inquiry, sent from Richardson’s work email, was evidence of the curious handshake in which the gun-rights organization has found itself with the most extreme purveyors of Internet falsehoods.

 

These people are monsters.

For any NRA members out there who are decent human beings and perhaps feeling a little guilty that their contributions go to stuff like this and various other NRA projects that have nothing to do with the Second Amendment or educating people on proper firearm use: next time they try to hit you up for dues, perhaps consider a donation to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention instead.

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That's ####### disgusting....how people continue to support this organization is beyond me.  They have become, 100% a political machine.  Time for the logical ones to cut their losses and start a legit group.

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10 hours ago, TobiasFunke said:

NRA officer enlisted a Sandy Hook truther to sow doubt about Parkland shooting, emails show
 

These people are monsters.

For any NRA members out there who are decent human beings and perhaps feeling a little guilty that their contributions go to stuff like this and various other NRA projects that have nothing to do with the Second Amendment or educating people on proper firearm use: next time they try to hit you up for dues, perhaps consider a donation to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention instead.

Disgusting and vile. I don’t have anything else to say, I just want to bump the story for others to read.

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1 hour ago, the rover said:

For those of you that don't venture into the trainwreck USA shootings thread:

NRA playbook for massacres.

I can only imagine the "defense" to this in that thread....what a group of disgusting people.  It really does make me sick to my stomach.

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19 minutes ago, The Commish said:

I can only imagine the "defense" to this in that thread....what a group of disgusting people.  It really does make me sick to my stomach.

It will be ignored.

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14 hours ago, TobiasFunke said:

NRA officer enlisted a Sandy Hook truther to sow doubt about Parkland shooting, emails show
 

These people are monsters.

For any NRA members out there who are decent human beings and perhaps feeling a little guilty that their contributions go to stuff like this and various other NRA projects that have nothing to do with the Second Amendment or educating people on proper firearm use: next time they try to hit you up for dues, perhaps consider a donation to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention instead.

Careful, GB.

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On 12/15/2018 at 9:09 AM, timschochet said:

Unfortunately no. You can still go to a gun show and there is no waiting period. 

This is not true. Unless you have a concealed weapons permit you have to wait three days here. 

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Add this to the list of 

21 hours ago, The Commish said:

I can only imagine the "defense" to this in that thread....what a group of disgusting people.  It really does make me sick to my stomach.

Add this to the list.

NRA opposes the Violence Against Women Act.   For all their lip service of "let's target criminals" and their claimed support for "red flag" laws, in action they oppose any and all legislation that would result in less profits for gun manufacturers.  Oh, and it looks like the GOP asked them to come out against it so they'd have cover when GOP Senators vote against it.  

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5 hours ago, pinkham13 said:

This is not true. Unless you have a concealed weapons permit you have to wait three days here. 

Where you're at is the exception, not the rule.  What state are you in?

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On 3/28/2019 at 5:51 AM, TobiasFunke said:

NRA officer enlisted a Sandy Hook truther to sow doubt about Parkland shooting, emails show
 

These people are monsters.

For any NRA members out there who are decent human beings and perhaps feeling a little guilty that their contributions go to stuff like this and various other NRA projects that have nothing to do with the Second Amendment or educating people on proper firearm use: next time they try to hit you up for dues, perhaps consider a donation to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention instead.

The NRA is a monster. No doubt.

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, The Commish said:

 What state are you in?

That'd be Florida.

Enacted in 2018 I do believe.

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17 minutes ago, BigSteelThrill said:

That'd be Florida.

Enacted in 2018 I do believe.

Oh...yeah.  Our laws only apply to purchases from a dealer.  Individuals are allowed to take two guns to sell as they wish, even if it's to other customers of the show...don't have to wait or do background checks in that case.  This is the loophole they always talk about.  If you have a conceal carry permit you don't have to wait three days at all.  You can take it with you that day.  

ETA:  There are some counties attempting to close this loophole so even within the state "it depends" is very much in play.

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16 hours ago, The Commish said:

Where you're at is the exception, not the rule.  What state are you in?

Florida. Maybe you haven’t been to a gun show in a while. Unless you have a cwp you have to wait 3 days. Of course if my cousin just wants me to buy his gun no waiting no checking as has been the case forever.

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46 minutes ago, pinkham13 said:

Florida. Maybe you haven’t been to a gun show in a while. Unless you have a cwp you have to wait 3 days. Of course if my cousin just wants me to buy his gun no waiting no checking as has been the case forever.

This is only a requirement if purchased from a dealer as I outlined above.  Some counties have imposed additional requirements, but it's not uniform across the state.  Go to a gun show, purchase from another private citizen, no waiting.  Last set of stats I saw from Orange County was over 60% of the gun sales at the gun shows were private citizen to private citizen.

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3 minutes ago, The Commish said:

This is only a requirement if purchased from a dealer as I outlined above.  Some counties have imposed additional requirements, but it's not uniform across the state.  Go to a gun show, purchase from another private citizen, no waiting.  Last set of stats I saw from Orange County was over 60% of the gun sales at the gun shows were private citizen to private citizen.

Cool. I don’t like laws that infringe upon the 2nd amendment.

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1 minute ago, pinkham13 said:

Cool. I don’t like laws that infringe upon the 2nd amendment.

Ok?

I only jumped in because you asserted what Tim was saying wasn't true....full stop.  That's not accurate.  It depends where you are and then it depends on the circumstance under which you purchase.  Tim's comment is generally true even in your (our) state.  The situation of which you speak is ONLY if you purchase from dealers and a majority of purchases typically aren't from dealers.  Glad we could clear that up :thumbup: 

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nra-tax-exempt-status-the-trace_n_5cb9e5d7e4b032e7ceb7c7d3

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A massive new report by The Trace, in conjunction with The New Yorker, alleges that the gun lobbying group has willfully obscured where its money goes, permitted multiple conflicts of interest and engaged in dubious payout arrangements, all while crying out to its members for more donations.       

Marc Owens, former head of the Internal Revenue Service division that oversees tax-exempt enterprises, told The Trace that the “litany of red flags is just extraordinary.”

“The materials reflect one of the broadest arrays of likely transgressions that I’ve ever seen,” Owens said. “There is a tremendous range of what appears to be the misuse of assets for the benefit of certain vendors and people in control. Those facts, if confirmed, could lead to the revocation of the NRA’s tax-exempt status.”

 

 

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A pair of legal groups sued the Federal Election Commission on Wednesday, seeking to compel the agency to enforce the law amid what they allege is mounting evidence that the National Rifle Association has engaged in “an elaborate scheme … to unlawfully coordinate with candidates it supports for federal office,” including with the 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump.

The Campaign Legal Center, a nonpartisan campaign finance watchdog, filed the lawsuit on behalf of the Giffords Law Center, a gun-control advocacy group led by former Democratic lawmaker from Arizona Gabby Giffords. The lawsuit accuses the NRA of “using a network of shell corporations” to circumvent contribution limits and coordinate approximately $35 million in advertisement spending with the campaigns of at least seven Republican candidates over the last three election cycles, “thereby making millions of dollars of illegal, unreported, and excessive in-kind contributions.”

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/watchdog-groups-sue-federal-agency-nras-alleged-campaign/story?id=62626150

 

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The NRA is in disarray right now

- CEO Wayne LaPierre has been asked to resign
- LaPierre claims he's being blackmailed by president Oliver North
- meanwhile, North is accused of receiving secret kickbacks from an advertising firm that was recently hired by the NRA

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So sad to see the NRA fighting itself.   What does the pretty girl who is the spokesperson for the NRA have to say?  

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Hmmm. Wayne La Pierre vs. Ollie North. I haven't wanted both sides to lose this badly since the Giants played the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

 

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4 hours ago, Joe Summer said:

The NRA is in disarray right now

- CEO Wayne LaPierre has been asked to resign
- LaPierre claims he's being blackmailed by president Oliver North
- meanwhile, North is accused of receiving secret kickbacks from an advertising firm that was recently hired by the NRA

Huh. Oliver North in a corruption scandal? Now I’ve seen everything!

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3 hours ago, [scooter] said:

Hmmm. Wayne La Pierre vs. Ollie North. I haven't wanted both sides to lose this badly since the Giants played the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

 

Expecting a superdupermike8 hot take any minute now.  

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7 minutes ago, urbanhack said:

Expecting a superdupermike8 hot take any minute now.  

Stealthy should have his finger on the pulse as well

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How anyone supports these dolts is beyond me.  Can't we just hit the self destruct button on them and move on?

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10 minutes ago, The Commish said:

How anyone supports these dolts is beyond me.  

Birds of a feather...

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