bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I liked him...but adding john brown seems weird
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Robert Foster, WR, BUF (2 Viewers)
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kittenmittens
Footballguy
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Josh allen and that offense cant support more than 1 viable option....avoid,in redraft
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Pretty much. That's why the Brown signing was weird. Buffalo seems to have no idea what they are doing.
Foster is young enough that he might be able to do something more given opportunity..
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ShamrockPride
Footballguy
I disagree. That seems like a close minded evaluation of him, especially given his age. They gave him chances to run some intermediate routes later in the season and he did fairly well. Room to work on them and he'll certainly get that chance with this offseason. He was able to get some good separation on some sideline comebacks 10-15 yards out. They didn't give him much work over the middle of the field but I suppose there's not going to be much need to with guys like Brown and Beasley.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I didn’t say that’s all Foster will ever be, but that’s how he was mostly used last season.
I think it’s John Brown who you seem to be mostly confused about. He’s not a slot guy / over the middle guy, he’s mostly used as a deep threat also.
I think the point that @kittenmittens was making is that adding Brown was odd since he’s somewhay superfluous to what Foster does and perhaps stunts Foster’s growth. The Bills were better off using that money elsewhere.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Look at Foster's last four games (starting with the Dolphins here). He wasn't used as a deep threat -- he moved into a #1 role.
IMO if the Bills had a game today Foster would be the #1, Jones/Beasley would be in the slot and Brown would be the field-stretcher. Subject to massive change after the draft obviously.
IMO if the Bills had a game today Foster would be the #1, Jones/Beasley would be in the slot and Brown would be the field-stretcher. Subject to massive change after the draft obviously.
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
That was definitely the point he was making. I'm not a Ravens fan, and really didn't like watching a Flacco-run offense, but it seemed like Brown was able to get open on intermediate routes too. He just never got clean throws sent his way on those routes. Just my take. But again, I rarely watched the Ravens because Flacco was so brutally awful.
Dawg Pound 69
Footballguy
If GM is making the call, TE makes sense. But if ownership is involved, they won't draft a serious threat to Jason Croom. Since he is dating Mrs. Pegula's daughter. Gives him some job security.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
I don't disagree with this - I do think that Allen won't be any better than Flacco at putting the ball in the right place at the right time on intermediate routes.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Watch these clowns draft DK Metcalf with their top pick.
"Haven't you guys play Madden? Just run the All Veritcals play and then run with your fast QB!"
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I dont think it would be a bad move....shrugkittenmittens said:
kittenmittens
Footballguy
I was only half kidding. It might be a good fit and actually work with Allen if he has lots of deep threat types on the field. That does seem like his game at this point. It would be kind of weird to draft Metcalf after signing Brown and already having Foster, but maybe they have a plan.
It's weird how things that constantly worked in Madden two decades ago are becoming NFL staples now. Things like "pick" plays, dumping off to fast RBs with mismatches in the flat, tight bunch formations to isolate WRs and make more room on the outside, using motion to reveal coverage pre-snap (not that that is new)...
Elevencents
Footballguy
Have to disagree. While you can’t expect much, being Buffalo and all, I think Brown will be fantastic value in best ball and a DeSean Jackson type boom or bust for standard.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Buffalo’s Pass Offense Made A Huge Second Half Leap Thanks To A Rookie
Football Perspective @fbgchase
The graph below shows Buffalo's passing offense versus league average in each game last year. Robert Foster became a part of the offense beginning in game 10, in case you couldn't tell.
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Chris B. BrownVerified account @smartfootball
The best stat here is that Bills rookie WR Robert Foster had more receiving yards in weeks 9-16 of his first NFL season than he had during his *entire college career* at Alabama (as he never broke 400 career college receiving yards)
The graph below shows Buffalo's passing offense versus league average in each game last year
Football Perspective @fbgchase
The graph below shows Buffalo's passing offense versus league average in each game last year. Robert Foster became a part of the offense beginning in game 10, in case you couldn't tell.
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Chris B. BrownVerified account @smartfootball
The best stat here is that Bills rookie WR Robert Foster had more receiving yards in weeks 9-16 of his first NFL season than he had during his *entire college career* at Alabama (as he never broke 400 career college receiving yards)
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
My favorite part about all of this, is that every projection and discussion site I've been to just tosses him way back down the depth chart to #4 like he's yesterday's lunch. If BUFF doesn't utilize him after what he did last season, they deserve whatever crappy receiving corps they'll end up with. He's more than proven himself IMO.Bracie Smathers said:
Mark Football
Footballguy
I think this is jumping the gun. I own him and want him to be the real deal. But I am wary that he may just be another keelan cole. And really that's the most likely outcome.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
If half a season of what he did isn't a large enough sample size for you to play him over some run of the mill journeymen FAs, what are you looking for?
Mark Football
Footballguy
I am not an nfl coach or talent evaluator. But in my fantasy football experience, an undrafted wide receiver with 27 catches has not yet proven himself. In addition, most undrafted players aren't very good. I'm ok if you have a different opinion. Just something to consider. I hope he turns into something.
Most drafted players from the 4th round on aren’t very good either. But to dismiss them out of hand is silly.
I also think Foster has a long way to go to win my praises, but he is certainly someone to pay attention to.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
I got him on the cheap in one dynasty. Honestly wish I had a bit more of him. I get the hesitation and a player like him I don’t often put much stock in (with pretty much nill college production). Guy was explosive last year though. I guess my concern is John Brown being brought in to take that role. Not sure what Buffalo’s plan is. Maybe they don’t even know what they have in Foster.
Mark Football
Footballguy
He's on my roster, I'd say that's paying attention and not dismissing. I hope he does well. But he hasn't proved himself yet.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Kay, so enough with the games. Can anybody seriously tell me why this guy is buried behind Zay ####ing Jones? In what universe does this make sense? What are the criticisms of this guy's play beyond "lAcK oF eXpErIeNcE"?
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Zay is Buffalo's best blocking WR and was rolling guys on Sunday.
Meanwhile, Foster didn't even attempt to block a defender on a screen and that defender tackled Singletary for a loss when it had the potential to be a big play.
Hardly mattered though because the Bills ran more 21 formation that anyone in the league Week 1. Neither Jones or Foster were on the field a bunch.
People haven't really caught on to this yet, but Buffalo is going to be similar to the Rams and Patriots on offense. You're going to see the style of offense vary a lot game to game with lots of in-game adjustments. You're also going to see lots of pre-snap movement to help identify the defense. Superstar overall talent isn't going to be as important for position players as having a particular skillset that can be utilized against certain opponents or situations.
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Beasley is definitely going to be a big part of the offense...as long as he doesn't keep dropping passes. He's definitely JA's #1 safety valve.
