pantherclub
Footballguy
If people start getting banned for saying posters are obtuse and said posters are wanting fake violent acts to be real then it would be the final death kneel of this site
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CNN: Questions As To Whether Jussie Smollett Faked Attack (1 Viewer)
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Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
I’d guess it would be due more to “ignorant schtick” and getting personal rather than discussing the posts.
pantherclub
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Ok you have a nice night...not getting in a pissing match about wanting tim banned because he is opinionated and posts a lot.
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timschochet
Footballguy
panther club, if you truly believe I’ve committed a bannable offense you’re certainly welcome to report it to the moderators. But hopefully you’ll explain it to me first because I’ve done nothing in this thread other than offer my honest opinion.
pantherclub
Footballguy
He was openly rooting for a racist, homophobic, violent act to take place so he can add a notch in his belt about trump and todays America. Thats disgusting.
timschochet
Footballguy
jon mx- in response to the article you posted, here is another article, non anecdote based, that suggests that there really is no bias in the media:
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/is-the-media-liberal-2315202
Actually though, you don’t need to read it. The fact is that we’re simply never going to agree on this issue. It’s one of those issues that is based more on perception than anything else. I will never convince you that there is no media bias and you won’t convince me that there is. I know plenty of people who share your opinion and I’m guessing you know a few who share mine. Lets leave it at that.
However- President Trump has carried the argument to a whole new level in which he consistently accuses the media, not of simply being biased, but of outright lying. I hope that at the least you don’t share that opinion.
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/is-the-media-liberal-2315202
Actually though, you don’t need to read it. The fact is that we’re simply never going to agree on this issue. It’s one of those issues that is based more on perception than anything else. I will never convince you that there is no media bias and you won’t convince me that there is. I know plenty of people who share your opinion and I’m guessing you know a few who share mine. Lets leave it at that.
However- President Trump has carried the argument to a whole new level in which he consistently accuses the media, not of simply being biased, but of outright lying. I hope that at the least you don’t share that opinion.
Tom Skerritt
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Jon I know you’re an indie and you have expressed your disgust for Trump. And I’d be willing to concede that situations like what happened with Scaramucci and I guess a couple other times have handed ammunition to critics of the free press, but I’d be really curious if any Trump supporters agree with that point about the “Demagogue in Chief”?
timschochet
Footballguy
Just curious: is there anybody else here who read what I wrote and reached this conclusion? Because it’s not what I meant at all and I would hope most people would understand that.
pantherclub
Footballguy
you posted "I wanted it to be true"
just stop, log out, take a break. You are unhinged
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Then show it...don’t hit and run with this...show something credible that shows a “huge liberal slant”
pantherclub
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
The overwhelming majority of reported hate crimes (any violent crime for that matter) are legit. This one was one of the comparatively rare exceptions. There's no good reason for folks to get so emotionally worked up here.
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Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
99% of violent crimes are committed by Americans but they only care about the crimes committed by illegal immigrants.
Notice a pattern?
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
I mean to be this completely unaware is shocking.
I don't get into personal stuff ever on here, but just watching Sho follow around anyone who doesn't support his position on here is a joke.
Just stop it man. You just instigate problems. You remind me of my 14 year old daughter--you have to get that last little jab in all the time.
As far as Tim--he is/and will always be a great poster. His problem is his honesty gets used against him. I will always have his back on here.
timschochet
Footballguy
The Duke Lacrosse incident took place in 2006 and people still offet it as proof that we shouldn’t trust accusers.
No doubt this incident will be discussed for years to come as well....
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I guess you’re sticking with this. Dude’s using Stalinist language against the press and freaking out on Twitter right now. 800 lb gorilla.
timschochet
Footballguy
I feel the same about you CJ. Wish you posted more often.I mean to be this completely unaware is shocking.
I don't get into personal stuff ever on here, but just watching Sho follow around anyone who doesn't support his position on here is a joke.
Just stop it man. You just instigate problems. You remind me of my 14 year old daughter--you have to get that last little jab in all the time.
As far as Tim--he is/and will always be a great poster. His problem is his honesty gets used against him. I will always have his back on here.
sho nuff
Footballguy
A. I don’t follow anyone around and I think it’s clear the opposite is true that others follow me and get far more personal (as you just did.I mean to be this completely unaware is shocking.
I don't get into personal stuff ever on here, but just watching Sho follow around anyone who doesn't support his position on here is a joke.
Just stop it man. You just instigate problems. You remind me of my 14 year old daughter--you have to get that last little jab in all the time.
As far as Tim--he is/and will always be a great poster. His problem is his honesty gets used against him. I will always have his back on here.
B. I’d also ask you to do as the other poster still refuses, don’t go personal and hot and run...bring something to show I’m wrong...show me where there is some confirmed huge liberal slant. I don’t play unaware...I’m stating I believe based on many things that a claim of huge liberal slant is bogus. Show me that I’m wrong...fine. Post like you just did and it’s crap and whatbthe mods don’t want. I’ve instigated nothing...didn’t post a thing to you and you came in here getting personal. Think about that.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
A--your little "BTW" passive aggressive nonsense response to me earlier---um, yeah.
B-- I don't usually have days like today where I am on this site--but it is amazing seeing you just respond immediately today to anyone who dares disagree with you.
C-- THE OWNER......let me repeat this....THE OWNER of this site called you out SPECIFICALLY as a person to create a thread about a topic. Do you think that is because you are special and bring the most to this site? You were lumped in with jon in this "unique" honor. Think about that....
I am done for tonight here....I am sure (like my teenager would) will have some response, but I am going to the FFA to have fun and drink some beer.
But I believe that in real life you and I could sit down and have a beer/water and would really be able to find a common ground and be friends. I just believe the internet/current political atmosphere brings out the worst in all. So please understand I don't think you are a bad dude.
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
EYLive
Footballguy
People much smarter than me have probably already noted these irregularities when the story originally broke:
-2 racist homophobes are just hanging outside a Subway at 2AM.
-One of them happen to have rope with him. Who carries rope with them (to eat or otherwise)?
-2 racists/homophobes know Jussie Smollett. Before this story I've never heard of him or watched Empire. So these racists watch Empire?
-2 racists/homophobes know Jussie Smollett is gay. How would you know this unless you've researched this on some sort of homosexual database?
-They beat him up in public. Pretty dumb thing to do in a big city like Chicago, even if it is at 2AM.
Most of these things are unlikely on their own, and borderline impossible for all these these things to occur without there being some sort of connection.
-2 racist homophobes are just hanging outside a Subway at 2AM.
-One of them happen to have rope with him. Who carries rope with them (to eat or otherwise)?
-2 racists/homophobes know Jussie Smollett. Before this story I've never heard of him or watched Empire. So these racists watch Empire?
-2 racists/homophobes know Jussie Smollett is gay. How would you know this unless you've researched this on some sort of homosexual database?
-They beat him up in public. Pretty dumb thing to do in a big city like Chicago, even if it is at 2AM.
Most of these things are unlikely on their own, and borderline impossible for all these these things to occur without there being some sort of connection.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Here you go.....
abc.com, nbc.com, cbs.com, cnn.com, msnbc.com, nyt.com, washingtonpost.com
Tom Skerritt
Footballguy
Don’t forget that he waited a long time before calling the cops.People much smarter than me have probably already noted these irregularities when the story originally broke:
-2 racist homophobes are just hanging outside a Subway at 2AM.
-One of them happen to have rope with him. Who carries rope with them (to eat or otherwise)?
-2 racists/homophobes know Jussie Smollett. Before this story I've never heard of him or watched Empire. So these racists watch Empire?
-2 racists/homophobes know Jussie Smollett is gay. How would you know this unless you've researched this on some sort of homosexual database?
-They beat him up in public. Pretty dumb thing to do in a big city like Chicago, even if it is at 2AM.
Most of these things are unlikely on their own, and borderline impossible for all these these things to occur without there being some sort of connection.
sho nuff
Footballguy
So nothing...just as I thought
looked at those sites...nothing showing a huge liberal bias.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
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Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Just about anyone here will admit that the mainstream media in our country has at the very least a slight liberal slant.
Your post basically said there's NO EVIDENCE of that at all. That's just ridiculous
Imo
sho nuff
Footballguy
No I stated and disagreed with a post that stated there was a huge liberal slant and right here am quoted as specifically saying that I’m not saying there is no bias at all.Just about anyone here will admit that the mainstream media in our country has at the very least a slight liberal slant.
Your post basically said there's NO EVIDENCE of that at all. That's just ridiculous
Imo
Nowhere did I even infer that I thought there is no bias at all.
Care to try again?
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Cmon...
You've admitted in this thread tonight that there is a bias. I'm not going back to find it. But you are going as hard as you can to say there isnt "huge liberal slant"
Have fun with all that
GoBirds
Footballguy
Seriously is this someone we were supposed to know? He sure found a way to get his name out there....have to give him props on the guys he hired they were jacked. I would have gotten some smaller dudes to beat me up but apparently they needed work and he hooked them up.People much smarter than me have probably already noted these irregularities when the story originally broke:
-2 racist homophobes are just hanging outside a Subway at 2AM.
-One of them happen to have rope with him. Who carries rope with them (to eat or otherwise)?
-2 racists/homophobes know Jussie Smollett. Before this story I've never heard of him or watched Empire. So these racists watch Empire?
-2 racists/homophobes know Jussie Smollett is gay. How would you know this unless you've researched this on some sort of homosexual database?
-They beat him up in public. Pretty dumb thing to do in a big city like Chicago, even if it is at 2AM.
Most of these things are unlikely on their own, and borderline impossible for all these these things to occur without there being some sort of connection.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Did you read that first sentence where it says huge liberal slant? I mean it’s right there in what you quoted man.Cmon...
You've admitted in this thread tonight that there is a bias. I'm not going back to find it. But you are going as hard as you can to say there isnt "huge liberal slant"
Have fun with all that
Do you honestly not see the difference between a liberal bias and huge liberal slant?
Not at all. He is probably just trolling you since he is already talking about you should be banned.
EYLive
Footballguy
Right, and the photos of his injuries, whenever the pictures were taken, don't show much damage considering the size of both individuals combined.
pantherclub
Footballguy
I wanted it to be true................Not at all. He is probably just trolling you since he is already talking about you should be banned.
Try to keep up. We've been thiiiiiiiiis close to the final "death kneel" since 2003...
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sho nuff
Footballguy
That's naive. Regardless of ideology, when people in that type of power with that type of following "react", it pushes the story forward. They realize this full well.
It's all in the language, choice of words, etc. And quite blatant.
Original CNN report: Empire actor Jussie Smollett was attacked in the early morning hours on Tuesday in what Chicago police are calling a possible hate crime.
Most recent CNN report: Two law enforcement sources with knowledge of the investigation tell CNN that Chicago Police believe actor Jussie Smollett paid two men to orchestrate an assault on him that he reported late last month.
CNN's original headline was premature, inflammatory and falsely definitive.
And then, after more factual information about the attack being fake what do they do? Instead of denouncing the fakeness they go in the other direction and use word choices that cast doubt on the veracity of their sources.
LOL if you think CNN would use this approach on a Trump-related topic.
FOX is equally guilty on conservative topics. So is the Wall St. Journal. But any reasonable person starting from scratch reading the "news" will quickly come to the conclusion that liberal outlets >> conservative outlets.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/29/entertainment/jussie-smollett-attack/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/entertainment/jussie-smollett-attack/index.html
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