Osaurus 7,000 Posted June 13 Let’s all congratulate her on a job done. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don't Noonan 4,509 Posted June 13 50 minutes ago, sho nuff said: Opinions and facts aren’t the same thing. Agreed. Fact - Mueller could not conclude Trump conspired with Russia Fact - Schiff still claims Trump colluded Fact - Schiff is a liar 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tahitian Facemask 157 Posted June 13 Another terrible person, disgrace to the country and republican favorite bails. 2 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knowledge dropper 3,597 Posted June 13 (edited) One of the many great things about this Administration is how many women our President has empowered compared to previous administrations. Truly a champion of women and Ms. Sanders is one of many that have done a fine job. I hope it’s not some latent misogyny coming out in these negative posts. Edited June 13 by knowledge dropper 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrtonToOlsen 15,262 Posted June 13 Not sure who is/was worse...Sanders or KAC? And actually just thinking about it makes me want to hurl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkp993 3,543 Posted June 13 1 hour ago, timschochet said: 2 hours ago, HellToupee said: My statement wasn't meant to be hyperbole. I honestly can't think of any public official in the history of this nation who has lied more often, on more subjects, than this woman and her boss. But you're certainly welcome to come up with someone I haven't considered. The problem with this statement Tim is that Trump, while a world class liar on scale, is also a really bad liar so his lies are obvious. There are most certainly better and bigger liars in our political history, they were just better at it, or at least less obvious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinn Fein 29,565 Posted June 13 42 minutes ago, jonessed said: Tough job. I thought she did pretty well all considering. She admitted to lying in her press briefs - how on earth is that "pretty well" for a Presidential spokesperson? 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommyGunZ 3,420 Posted June 13 7 minutes ago, Don't Noonan said: Agreed. Fact - Mueller could not conclude Trump conspired with Russia Fact - Schiff still claims Trump colluded Fact - Schiff is a liar LOL. No wonder Trump is POtUS with logic like this. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[scooter] 11,512 Posted June 13 57 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said: The country’s loss is Arkansas gain. Thanks for your valuable service exposing the Fourth Estate. I doubt you realize just how illuminating this post is. The fact that you viewed Sanders' role as that of an antagonist -- someone whose mission was not to provide information to the public, but to expose the "enemy" -- provides valuable insight into the mind of conservatives in general, and Trump supporters in particular. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommyGunZ 3,420 Posted June 13 44 minutes ago, jonessed said: Tough job. I thought she did pretty well all considering. Wow. I usually disagree with you jonessed, but didn’t consider you one of those. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigSteelThrill 4,732 Posted June 13 (edited) She was better at lying than the Iraqi Information Minister. Both were obviously lying non-stop, but she also kept attacking others just as the GOPers like it. Pretty impressive (and soulless). Edited June 13 by BigSteelThrill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkp993 3,543 Posted June 13 2 minutes ago, tommyGunZ said: LOL. No wonder Trump is POtUS with logic like this. And that “proof” of 1 lie makes him the biggest liar in our political history. In fact it “takes the cake”. Glad to hear we’ve had such a honest political history. So I guess there really were WMD’s in Iraq. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don't Noonan 4,509 Posted June 13 5 minutes ago, tommyGunZ said: LOL. No wonder Trump is POtUS with logic like this. Coming from the guy who said Trump is killing our 401ks I will gladly not listen to your logic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don't Noonan 4,509 Posted June 13 2 minutes ago, dkp993 said: And that “proof” of 1 lie makes him the biggest liar in our political history. In fact it “takes the cake”. Glad to hear we’ve had such a honest political history. So I guess there really were WMD’s in Iraq. No, there are many more I have listed in the PSF forum. This one, however makes Schiff the worst partisan lying hack of the decade and he keeps lying about Russia because the feeble minded folks believe him and don't know any better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 20,097 Posted June 13 17 minutes ago, Don't Noonan said: Agreed. Fact - Mueller could not conclude Trump conspired with Russia Fact - Schiff still claims Trump colluded Fact - Schiff is a liar Schiff is a liar because all humans lie but your first 2 facts don’t lead to number 3. Just like how the State of CA failed to prove OJ killed anyone but that doesn’t mean anyone claiming OJ is a murderer is lying. 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoknew 6,657 Posted June 13 41 minutes ago, AAABatteries said: I have no clue why anybody would want that job under normal circumstances, being in that role for Trump is just that much worse. As for her specifically, I have no respect for people that lie to cover up their bosses incompetence - she had a tough job but compromised her morals for the sake of being partisan - that’s how she should be remembered. This makes an assumption that I’m not sure is fair to make. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 20,097 Posted June 13 1 minute ago, Don't Noonan said: No, there are many more I have listed in the PSF forum. This one, however makes Schiff the worst partisan lying hack of the decade and he keeps lying about Russia because the feeble minded folks believe him and don't know any better. I can’t stand Schiff but this feels like a pot and kettle situation more than anything. A bunch of partisans saying whatever they think will sell and their fans eating it up. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don't Noonan 4,509 Posted June 13 4 minutes ago, Ilov80s said: Schiff is a liar because all humans lie but your first 2 facts don’t lead to number 3. Just like how the State of CA failed to prove OJ killed anyone but that doesn’t mean anyone claiming OJ is a murderer is lying. Wrong, as a head of the intel committee he routinely lied and said he had direct proof that Trump colluded with Russia. This was before the Mueller report came out. He was so sure Trump colluded he made #### up and lied to the American people. After Mueller report came out instead of eating crow he continued to lie and spit out garbage. He is the worst politician in Congress right now and it isn't close. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badmojo1006 6,000 Posted June 13 1 minute ago, Don't Noonan said: Wrong, as a head of the intel committee he routinely lied and said he had direct proof that Trump colluded with Russia. This was before the Mueller report came out. He was so sure Trump colluded he made #### up and lied to the American people. After Mueller report came out instead of eating crow he continued to lie and spit out garbage. He is the worst politician in Congress right now and it isn't close. I think Gym Jordan is a lot worse 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatguyinalittlecoat 8,376 Posted June 13 She’s still not allowed at my restaurant. 3 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 20,097 Posted June 13 7 minutes ago, Don't Noonan said: Wrong, as a head of the intel committee he routinely lied and said he had direct proof that Trump colluded with Russia. This was before the Mueller report came out. He was so sure Trump colluded he made #### up and lied to the American people. After Mueller report came out instead of eating crow he continued to lie and spit out garbage. He is the worst politician in Congress right now and it isn't close. Nothing I said is wrong Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don't Noonan 4,509 Posted June 13 2 minutes ago, Ilov80s said: Nothing I said is wrong Understood that 1 and 2 do not lead to 3 but all 3 are facts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoonation 3,866 Posted June 13 38 minutes ago, Don't Noonan said: Agreed. Fact - Mueller could not conclude Trump conspired with Russia Fact - Schiff still claims Trump colluded Fact - Schiff is a liar You clearly didn’t take logic classes in college. Yikes. 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badmojo1006 6,000 Posted June 13 6 minutes ago, Don't Noonan said: Understood that 1 and 2 do not lead to 3 but all 3 are facts. That's not how it works Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 20,097 Posted June 13 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Don't Noonan said: Understood that 1 and 2 do not lead to 3 but all 3 are facts. Right, which I said. Edited June 13 by Ilov80s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juxtatarot 7,946 Posted June 13 It will be interesting to see how long it takes to replace her. Press briefings obviously aren’t a priority. Maybe they go months without. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turnerj0 170 Posted June 13 38 minutes ago, dkp993 said: The problem with this statement Tim is that Trump, while a world class liar on scale, is also a really bad liar so his lies are obvious. There are most certainly better and bigger liars in our political history, they were just better at it, or at least less obvious. Not sure about this. There are certainly other politicians who told countless lies on big subjects, but the thing that separates Trump from the rest if that he lies about everything. I would think most people who are really good liars have the intelligence and discipline to avoid lying about the most trivial stuff. I don't think even the worst of the worst pathological liars continuously lie about small and unimportant stuff at the level Trump does, and that's probably what puts him over the top versus any other politician. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkp993 3,543 Posted June 13 1 minute ago, turnerj0 said: Not sure about this. There are certainly other politicians who told countless lies on big subjects, but the thing that separates Trump from the rest if that he lies about everything. I would think most people who are really good liars have the intelligence and discipline to avoid lying about the most trivial stuff. I don't think even the worst of the worst pathological liars continuously lie about small and unimportant stuff at the level Trump does, and that's probably what puts him over the top versus any other politician. Fair point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knowledge dropper 3,597 Posted June 13 44 minutes ago, [scooter] said: I doubt you realize just how illuminating this post is. The fact that you viewed Sanders' role as that of an antagonist -- someone whose mission was not to provide information to the public, but to expose the "enemy" -- provides valuable insight into the mind of conservatives in general, and Trump supporters in particular. I just saw how the liberal press treated this powerful woman. That was very enlightening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister CIA 6,465 Posted June 13 ding dong ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ditkaless Wonders 15,079 Posted June 13 3 hours ago, timschochet said: I can't say I will miss her. So many lies told on a daily basis. Of course, she will always be most remembered for admitting to Robert Mueller that when she told the press that she had been told by numerous FBI officials that they were happy that Jim Comey had been fired, she made it up out of whole cloth. Other than the President himself, I don't believe there has ever been a more dishonest public official in the history of this country. Is she by definition a public official or a bureaucrat? She is not elected, she was appointed, I suppose she headed that effort but is it a Department? Close call. Of course that has nothing to do with her having a prominent position, a position which should be a position of trust, and being an inveterate liar. Sorry for the tangent, words fascinate me. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister CIA 6,465 Posted June 13 2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Mooch! Mooch!! Mooch!!! The only highlight of the trump administration. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister CIA 6,465 Posted June 13 1 hour ago, jonessed said: Tough job. I thought she did pretty well all considering. Usually you present your opinions with a sliver of plausibility. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sand 4,271 Posted June 13 3 hours ago, BroadwayG said: How many Scaramuccis did she last? This should be the new standard measurement for length of term at that position. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timschochet 24,415 Posted June 13 9 minutes ago, Ditkaless Wonders said: Is she by definition a public official or a bureaucrat? She is not elected, she was appointed, I suppose she headed that effort but is it a Department? Close call. Of course that has nothing to do with her having a prominent position, a position which should be a position of trust, and being an inveterate liar. Sorry for the tangent, words fascinate me. Good question but I thought that bureaucrats are public officials. She’s not a politician (yet). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pecorino 1,346 Posted June 13 1 hour ago, knowledge dropper said: One of the many great things about this Administration is how many women our President has empowered compared to previous administrations. Truly a champion of women and Ms. Sanders is one of many that have done a fine job. I hope it’s not some latent misogyny coming out in these negative posts. I stopped laughing once I realized this isn’t schtick. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoonation 3,866 Posted June 13 22 minutes ago, turnerj0 said: Not sure about this. There are certainly other politicians who told countless lies on big subjects, but the thing that separates Trump from the rest if that he lies about everything. I would think most people who are really good liars have the intelligence and discipline to avoid lying about the most trivial stuff. I don't think even the worst of the worst pathological liars continuously lie about small and unimportant stuff at the level Trump does, and that's probably what puts him over the top versus any other politician. Exactly. Which is why I believe Trump doesn’t even know when he is lying. He has been doing it for so long that the “truth”, as we understand that term, has no normative meaning in Trump’s world. It is true in his mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 41,288 Posted June 13 1 hour ago, knowledge dropper said: One of the many great things about this Administration is how many women our President has empowered compared to previous administrations. Truly a champion of women and Ms. Sanders is one of many that have done a fine job. I hope it’s not some latent misogyny coming out in these negative posts. Manigault, Nielsen, Yates, Brand night say otherwise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AAABatteries 18,279 Posted June 14 1 hour ago, whoknew said: This makes an assumption that I’m not sure is fair to make. Which part? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slapdash 14,396 Posted June 14 Another horrible, pathological liar leaves the White House to be replaced by someone even worse. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sand 4,271 Posted June 14 11 minutes ago, Slapdash said: Another horrible, pathological liar leaves the White House to be replaced by someone even worse. That's a big step down for Schiff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 11,974 Posted June 14 1 hour ago, Don't Noonan said: Agreed. Fact - Mueller could not conclude Trump conspired with Russia Fact - Schiff still claims Trump colluded Fact - Schiff is a liar Fact. Mueller saying that doesn’t refute what Schiff has said. Also...that is far far far fewer lies than Trump or Sanders. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slapdash 14,396 Posted June 14 12 minutes ago, Sand said: That's a big step down for Schiff. Next time you make a joke, try to be actually funny instead of parroting talking points from the most dishonest parts of the right wing media 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Commish 9,926 Posted June 14 1 hour ago, Ilov80s said: Schiff is a liar because all humans lie but your first 2 facts don’t lead to number 3. Just like how the State of CA failed to prove OJ killed anyone but that doesn’t mean anyone claiming OJ is a murderer is lying. Was going to point this out, but considered the source....hard pass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badmojo1006 6,000 Posted June 14 1 hour ago, knowledge dropper said: I just saw how the liberal press treated this powerful woman. That was very enlightening. I will agree that a lot of the comments made about her appearance were awful. However, she deserved all the criticism and more for her performance as Press Secretary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonessed 3,044 Posted June 14 1 hour ago, Sinn Fein said: She admitted to lying in her press briefs - how on earth is that "pretty well" for a Presidential spokesperson? Considering who her boss is, she probably walked a fine line through most of her tenure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slapdash 14,396 Posted June 14 53 minutes ago, pecorino said: I stopped laughing once I realized this isn’t schtick. Yep. Just ask him about the victims accusing Trump of sexual assualt of you want his real views on women Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrtonToOlsen 15,262 Posted June 14 5 minutes ago, jonessed said: Considering who her boss is, she probably walked a fine line through most of her tenure. What “fine line”? She lied and obfuscatied over and over. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 41,288 Posted June 14 8 minutes ago, jonessed said: Considering who her boss is, she probably walked a fine line through most of her tenure. She testified under oath to Mueller that she lied to the public to take heat off of Trump. That was probably the job description. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slapdash 14,396 Posted June 14 8 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: She testified under oath to Mueller that she lied to the public to take heat off of Trump. That was probably the job description. Admitting to being a liar to own the libs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites