Don't Noonan
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Agreed.Opinions and facts aren’t the same thing.
Fact - Mueller could not conclude Trump conspired with Russia
Fact - Schiff still claims Trump colluded
Fact - Schiff is a liar
Agreed.Opinions and facts aren’t the same thing.
The problem with this statement Tim is that Trump, while a world class liar on scale, is also a really bad liar so his lies are obvious. There are most certainly better and bigger liars in our political history, they were just better at it, or at least less obvious.My statement wasn't meant to be hyperbole. I honestly can't think of any public official in the history of this nation who has lied more often, on more subjects, than this woman and her boss. But you're certainly welcome to come up with someone I haven't considered.
She admitted to lying in her press briefs - how on earth is that "pretty well" for a Presidential spokesperson?Tough job. I thought she did pretty well all considering.
LOL. No wonder Trump is POtUS with logic like this.Agreed.
Fact - Mueller could not conclude Trump conspired with Russia
Fact - Schiff still claims Trump colluded
Fact - Schiff is a liar
I doubt you realize just how illuminating this post is.The country’s loss is Arkansas gain. Thanks for your valuable service exposing the Fourth Estate.
Wow. I usually disagree with you jonessed, but didn’t consider you one of those.Tough job. I thought she did pretty well all considering.
And that “proof” of 1 lie makes him the biggest liar in our political history. In fact it “takes the cake”.LOL. No wonder Trump is POtUS with logic like this.
Coming from the guy who said Trump is killing our 401ks I will gladly not listen to your logic.LOL. No wonder Trump is POtUS with logic like this.
No, there are many more I have listed in the PSF forum. This one, however makes Schiff the worst partisan lying hack of the decade and he keeps lying about Russia because the feeble minded folks believe him and don't know any better.And that “proof” of 1 lie makes him the biggest liar in our political history. In fact it “takes the cake”.
Glad to hear we’ve had such a honest political history. So I guess there really were WMD’s in Iraq.
Schiff is a liar because all humans lie but your first 2 facts don’t lead to number 3. Just like how the State of CA failed to prove OJ killed anyone but that doesn’t mean anyone claiming OJ is a murderer is lying.Agreed.
Fact - Mueller could not conclude Trump conspired with Russia
Fact - Schiff still claims Trump colluded
Fact - Schiff is a liar
This makes an assumption that I’m not sure is fair to make.I have no clue why anybody would want that job under normal circumstances, being in that role for Trump is just that much worse. As for her specifically, I have no respect for people that lie to cover up their bosses incompetence - she had a tough job but compromised her morals for the sake of being partisan - that’s how she should be remembered.
I can’t stand Schiff but this feels like a pot and kettle situation more than anything. A bunch of partisans saying whatever they think will sell and their fans eating it up.No, there are many more I have listed in the PSF forum. This one, however makes Schiff the worst partisan lying hack of the decade and he keeps lying about Russia because the feeble minded folks believe him and don't know any better.
Wrong, as a head of the intel committee he routinely lied and said he had direct proof that Trump colluded with Russia. This was before the Mueller report came out. He was so sure Trump colluded he made #### up and lied to the American people. After Mueller report came out instead of eating crow he continued to lie and spit out garbage.Schiff is a liar because all humans lie but your first 2 facts don’t lead to number 3. Just like how the State of CA failed to prove OJ killed anyone but that doesn’t mean anyone claiming OJ is a murderer is lying.
I think Gym Jordan is a lot worseWrong, as a head of the intel committee he routinely lied and said he had direct proof that Trump colluded with Russia. This was before the Mueller report came out. He was so sure Trump colluded he made #### up and lied to the American people. After Mueller report came out instead of eating crow he continued to lie and spit out garbage.
He is the worst politician in Congress right now and it isn't close.
Nothing I said is wrongWrong, as a head of the intel committee he routinely lied and said he had direct proof that Trump colluded with Russia. This was before the Mueller report came out. He was so sure Trump colluded he made #### up and lied to the American people. After Mueller report came out instead of eating crow he continued to lie and spit out garbage.
He is the worst politician in Congress right now and it isn't close.
Understood that 1 and 2 do not lead to 3 but all 3 are facts.Nothing I said is wrong
You clearly didn’t take logic classes in college. Yikes.Agreed.
Fact - Mueller could not conclude Trump conspired with Russia
Fact - Schiff still claims Trump colluded
Fact - Schiff is a liar
That's not how it worksUnderstood that 1 and 2 do not lead to 3 but all 3 are facts.
Right, which I said.Understood that 1 and 2 do not lead to 3 but all 3 are facts.
Not sure about this. There are certainly other politicians who told countless lies on big subjects, but the thing that separates Trump from the rest if that he lies about everything. I would think most people who are really good liars have the intelligence and discipline to avoid lying about the most trivial stuff. I don't think even the worst of the worst pathological liars continuously lie about small and unimportant stuff at the level Trump does, and that's probably what puts him over the top versus any other politician.The problem with this statement Tim is that Trump, while a world class liar on scale, is also a really bad liar so his lies are obvious. There are most certainly better and bigger liars in our political history, they were just better at it, or at least less obvious.
Fair point.Not sure about this. There are certainly other politicians who told countless lies on big subjects, but the thing that separates Trump from the rest if that he lies about everything. I would think most people who are really good liars have the intelligence and discipline to avoid lying about the most trivial stuff. I don't think even the worst of the worst pathological liars continuously lie about small and unimportant stuff at the level Trump does, and that's probably what puts him over the top versus any other politician.
I doubt you realize just how illuminating this post is.
The fact that you viewed Sanders' role as that of an antagonist -- someone whose mission was not to provide information to the public, but to expose the "enemy" -- provides valuable insight into the mind of conservatives in general, and Trump supporters in particular.
Is she by definition a public official or a bureaucrat? She is not elected, she was appointed, I suppose she headed that effort but is it a Department? Close call. Of course that has nothing to do with her having a prominent position, a position which should be a position of trust, and being an inveterate liar.I can't say I will miss her. So many lies told on a daily basis. Of course, she will always be most remembered for admitting to Robert Mueller that when she told the press that she had been told by numerous FBI officials that they were happy that Jim Comey had been fired, she made it up out of whole cloth.
Other than the President himself, I don't believe there has ever been a more dishonest public official in the history of this country.
The only highlight of the trump administration.Mooch! Mooch!! Mooch!!!
Usually you present your opinions with a sliver of plausibility.Tough job. I thought she did pretty well all considering.
This should be the new standard measurement for length of term at that position.How many Scaramuccis did she last?
Good question but I thought that bureaucrats are public officials. She’s not a politician (yet).Is she by definition a public official or a bureaucrat? She is not elected, she was appointed, I suppose she headed that effort but is it a Department? Close call. Of course that has nothing to do with her having a prominent position, a position which should be a position of trust, and being an inveterate liar.
Sorry for the tangent, words fascinate me.
I stopped laughing once I realized this isn’t schtick.One of the many great things about this Administration is how many women our President has empowered compared to previous administrations. Truly a champion of women and Ms. Sanders is one of many that have done a fine job.
I hope it’s not some latent misogyny coming out in these negative posts.
Exactly. Which is why I believe Trump doesn’t even know when he is lying. He has been doing it for so long that the “truth”, as we understand that term, has no normative meaning in Trump’s world.Not sure about this. There are certainly other politicians who told countless lies on big subjects, but the thing that separates Trump from the rest if that he lies about everything. I would think most people who are really good liars have the intelligence and discipline to avoid lying about the most trivial stuff. I don't think even the worst of the worst pathological liars continuously lie about small and unimportant stuff at the level Trump does, and that's probably what puts him over the top versus any other politician.
Manigault, Nielsen, Yates, Brand night say otherwise.One of the many great things about this Administration is how many women our President has empowered compared to previous administrations. Truly a champion of women and Ms. Sanders is one of many that have done a fine job.
I hope it’s not some latent misogyny coming out in these negative posts.
Which part?This makes an assumption that I’m not sure is fair to make.
That's a big step down for Schiff.Another horrible, pathological liar leaves the White House to be replaced by someone even worse.
Fact. Mueller saying that doesn’t refute what Schiff has said.Agreed.
Fact - Mueller could not conclude Trump conspired with Russia
Fact - Schiff still claims Trump colluded
Fact - Schiff is a liar
Next time you make a joke, try to be actually funny instead of parroting talking points from the most dishonest parts of the right wing mediaThat's a big step down for Schiff.
Was going to point this out, but considered the source....hard pass.Schiff is a liar because all humans lie but your first 2 facts don’t lead to number 3. Just like how the State of CA failed to prove OJ killed anyone but that doesn’t mean anyone claiming OJ is a murderer is lying.
I will agree that a lot of the comments made about her appearance were awful.
I just saw how the liberal press treated this powerful woman. That was very enlightening.
Considering who her boss is, she probably walked a fine line through most of her tenure.She admitted to lying in her press briefs - how on earth is that "pretty well" for a Presidential spokesperson?
Yep. Just ask him about the victims accusing Trump of sexual assualt of you want his real views on womenI stopped laughing once I realized this isn’t schtick.
What “fine line”? She lied and obfuscatied over and over.Considering who her boss is, she probably walked a fine line through most of her tenure.
She testified under oath to Mueller that she lied to the public to take heat off of Trump. That was probably the job description.Considering who her boss is, she probably walked a fine line through most of her tenure.
Admitting to being a liar to own the libsShe testified under oath to Mueller that she lied to the public to take heat off of Trump. That was probably the job description.
I would think so.She testified under oath to Mueller that she lied to the public to take heat off of Trump. That was probably the job description.