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I'm just curious where the line falls... what would your view be of a celebrity who appeared in a campaign ad for the Nazi party (which represented millions of people) because, while disagreeing with the party's anti-semitism, agreed with their views on economics and militarization?
Bottom line, we all know brees is a good guy. He has done a lot of good things for the community, charities etc. I think we should all give him a pass for his beliefs as a conservative Christian. The good far outweighs the bad...please see the big picture.
Also I’m not sure how to separate the beliefs from the athlete. If one of them was openly a white supremacist or beat their children or breed fighting dogs or, or... I have a really hard time rooting for them. I know we don’t personally know these athletes, but I still want the one I’m rooting for to be a decent human being.[scooter] said:
That’s because you’re tolerable of good people with different beliefs. These guys will shame anyone with different beliefs than them.
I'm in.
To start, anyone that is Mormon, church of Latter Day Saints, Scientology, Muslim etc. ever seen any movies with Tom cruise or John travota?
We all make mistakes in life. It’s how you course correct after that matters most.
Yep...what an #######, the 2006 NFL Man of the Year is. All that Katrina work he did coupled with all his work he does helping kids with cancer.
Effing jerk. Boooooooooo.
Have you ever responded to a mistake by blaming the person who brought it up, denying it, and not owning up to it?
Sure...what does that have to do with the conversation?
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Adrian Peterson could donate a million dollars to the community and he'd still be dead to me.
Maybe brees made a mistake and should forgiven just like when you, i and everyone else makes a mistake. He gets a pass just like everyone else here. Those in glass houses shouldn’t throw rocks.
I don’t put Peterson in the same category as brees so don’t agree with your analogy.
I'll forgive Drew Brees just as soon as he admits that he made a mistake and wants to be forgiven for it.
Maybe he does believe it like millions of others but it’s not a popular position so he deflects....
What are you even talking about? Seriously? Why is it not fair to criticize him for this? Does that mean i wouldn’t forgive him of he asked or apologized? Where did you get that from? Thus far...has he done so?
Millions of others believing something doesn't make it right. Or worth just giving a pass...and this also seems to show it would be odd to “forgive “ someone who doesn’t apologize and continues the behavior. Being good in other aspects of life doesn't remove criticism from other things.
Great question.
Also on this point: a real life answer to this question was Ingrid Bergman, who was a member of Hitler Youth as a teenager.
Obviously the answer is no.
Too bad she was great in that. (Though hard to recognize in that flying monkey costume.)
1. Are electric shocks involved? Waterboarding? Other indoctrination techniques? Or are the participants allowed to make up their own minds over time? As a related anecdote, my daughters went through catholic first communion training. They are now both atheists.
If that’s the case I don’t have much rethinking to do. It’s not like I think he should be cast out, he just goes from being one of my favorites if not my actual favorite player of all time to a great QB for the Saints.
Speaking of which...
Brees is a born again Christian. I wouldn’t be surprised if he believes there’s a war on Christianity by secularism.
Notimschochet said:
No I meant Ingrid. But Ingmar may have been a Nazi sympathizer.Henry Ford said:
Just have a digital version on your phone. I mean in today's day and age there's no reason to haul it around in book form... unless you plan on thumping people with it.Henry Ford said:
Carbs like pancakes and Westboro are both spawns of Satan. Hard pass.Henry Ford said:
Is human flesh considered Paleo?Henry Ford said:
I was referring to the hypothetical line of questioning you started. Not what he's actually done.
