Did the kids attend schools that were built by the taxes their parents paid and ONLY their parents?What about those who had kids in the school system who graduated and moved on, but the parents still live at the same address? Do they need to pay for someone else's kids? They already paid for their own and never received the same benefits as some do today with the advanced technologies. What's to gain for these fine elderly folks?
Should law abiding people have to pay taxes for police?As I'm sure is the case in many counties all over the country, a large portion of our property taxes goes to schools/education.
Should property owning parents with children who are attending the schools pay more/less/the same as property owners with no children?
Discuss.
You mean the retirement that I have contributed to my entire life?You bet. I'd also like to stop funding the retirement of other people while we're at it. Thanks.
Ooohhh, that's a good one but police are needed for everyone. Besides, a law abiding citizen could break the law at any moment.Should law abiding people have to pay taxes for police?
Sounds great! That would mean non-parents can buy cheaper property!I like this idea. You could penalize the property by making it ineligible for the next owners to use that school zone for the same amount of time the previous non-taxpaying owners lived there.
Oh, bull####. Who's less fortunate than you?Tell you what, I'm about damn tired of my tax dollars going to feed the less fortunate too.
I hope you're pretty.Can we agree though that if there are less children, less schools are needed which results in less tax money needed?
Maybe a cap on the number of children is the right approach?
Did China have it right all along?
I was going to just say that I prefer to be around less dumb people but this sums it up nicely.No kids. No plans to ever have them. Dumb idea. All of society benefits from a strong educational system. Not just those receiving the education.
I used to work for the Ways and Means committee of a State Legislature. Inevitably the newspaper would do an a la cart taxes shopping list / zero base budgeting app on their website every year. We would get inundated with all of these “tax plans” that were hilarious.And, since I'm a peacenik and support pacifism fully, I don't want any of my tax dollars going to the military.
Can we do a la cart taxes like we do with cable TV?
Gotta start phasing out social security immediately. Saving for retirement should be voluntary.You mean the retirement that I have contributed to my entire life?
Not even cable will let you do that.And, since I'm a peacenik and support pacifism fully, I don't want any of my tax dollars going to the military.
Can we do a la cart taxes like we do with cable TV?
Better question - how come renters with kids get all the benefit of the schools without having to kick in tax dollars for upkeep of said schools?As I'm sure is the case in many counties all over the country, a large portion of our property taxes goes to schools/education.
Should property owning parents with children who are attending the schools pay more/less/the same as property owners with no children?
Discuss.
What if we just killed 3/4 of the population? Jesus, do you know how much money we'd save? Everyone gets their own city and their family runs it. Without having to waste all that money on schools, we'll be able to advance our space program 10x faster than now.Can we agree though that if there are less children, less schools are needed which results in less tax money needed?
Maybe a cap on the number of children is the right approach?
Did China have it right all along?
Good point. Maybe they should be paying higher rent because the landlord is paying more for RE taxes. That would be up to the landlord, though.Better question - how come renters with kids get all the benefit of the schools without having to kick in tax dollars for upkeep of said schools?
My local state representative has suggested doing away with property taxes in favor of a sales tax. That way, renters have to pay for the schools they use.Good point. Maybe they should be paying higher rent because the landlord is paying more for RE taxes. That would be up to the landlord, though.
This one of those threads where I feel better just assuming everyone is joking, even if I'm not quite sure.How does anybody ever even come across this thought?
Based off this thread I feel like maybe we need to be spending more on public education.This one of those threads where I feel better just assuming everyone is joking, even if I'm not quite sure.
Or, less kids. I'm not sure we've totally dismissed this idea yet.Based off this thread I feel like maybe we need to be spending more on public education.
Well, that then also knowing you aren't getting full market value for your house (if you decide to try and sell) because you don't have kids.In theory, but I doubt your value would appreciate much. Imagine trying to sell a house with 50 years of school tax delinquency.Sounds great! That would mean non-parents can buy cheaper property!
My town had a school bond issue on the ballot last year. Our local schools are overcrowded and deteriorated--things like plumbing not working, roofs leaking, mold, etc. It takes a 60% vote to pass a bond here. These arguments about people that have already put their kids through school and people with no kids not having responsibility for the condition of local schools were rampant, and the bond was defeated by 1.5%.How does anybody ever even come across this thought?
Parents hit the roof of the student teacher ratio is in the 20s. Yet most parts of the world 50 is the minimum. Maybe focus on how to be more efficient in teaching larger class sizes.Can we agree though that if there are less children, less schools are needed which results in less tax money needed?
Maybe a cap on the number of children is the right approach?
Did China have it right all along?
I remember I used to be one of those people that would say, "We need to pay teachers more money." Then I learned how much my teacher friends were making for working 6 hour days for 8 months of the year.Sure, have everyone pay for education.
But... let's cut the stupid budgets. Teachers unions should be abolished, entirely. No public sector employees should have unions. Their pensions and contracts need to be slashed. At one point LAUSD teachers were guaranteed like 10% stock market returns on their pensions. A joke. Taxpayers end up having to pay them more than a comparable wage and then get on the hook for retirement better than anyone else on the planet. Gut it.
Then let's cut the spending on junk. I learned fine without an iPad. All you need is a chalkboard, a map, and a stick. Every classroom can get outfitted for $20. We're spending way too much on these spoiled brats that then graduate without knowing how to read or add fractions, but can swipe and kahoot like experts. F 'em.
You're against textbooks?Then let's cut the spending on junk. I learned fine without an iPad. All you need is a chalkboard, a map, and a stick. Every classroom can get outfitted for $20. We're spending way too much on these spoiled brats that then graduate without knowing how to read or add fractions, but can swipe and kahoot like experts. F 'em.
So, public healthcare (Medicare) for all? Same idea.No. All of society benefits from public education, whether or not we have kids. If we go down this path, it opens up a hornet's nest of analyzing who benefits most from different public services.
Also, although I will pay a ridiculous amount in property taxes this year, I still have to send my kids to a catholic school (despite being a non-believer myself) because our city schools suck so badly.
fine with me, but only if they exempt private school parents as well.As I'm sure is the case in many counties all over the country, a large portion of our property taxes goes to schools/education.
Should property owning parents with children who are attending the schools pay more/less/the same as property owners with no children?
Discuss.
Sure, a lower portion of people working while the current generation turns elderly is a great plan.Can we agree though that if there are less children, less schools are needed which results in less tax money needed?
Maybe a cap on the number of children is the right approach?
Did China have it right all along?
Yeah, get those back in circulation. There's not enough Christopher Columbus worship going on the schools these days either.Meh plenty around for low cost. Growing up in the 80s my textbooks didn't even know how the Vietnam War turned out. I'm sure we can still find those lying around cheap or free.
The 1970s documentary Soylent Green provided a workable solution for this future problem.Sure, a lower portion of people working while the current generation turns elderly is a great plan.