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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (23 Viewers)
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culdeus
Footballguy
TBH, I would have her try to go to a hospital for rapid testing. The risk is she doesn't have it right and gets exposed there.
Given her situation I would imagine they admit her and put her on red right away.
Edit: Also, I typed fast I am obviously deeply sorry for your situation and want the best for you and your family.
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Please keep this non political here. We have an entire forum for the political side of this.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Yeah, obesity is a huge risk factor for death and we are an incredibly obese nation. Combine that with poor mask use and lack of distancing for so long and with so many people and that’s a big part.
I think the other big piece is how we do elder care. I don’t think the nursing home model is predominant in much of the world. And early on we were sending Covid positive elderly to nursing homes where it then raged like wildfire killing the elderly. That was a major misstep in both New York and New Jersey with deadly consequences.
Doug B
Footballguy
Ah, OK. I was looking for local news coverage specific to Real Counties cases and coming up empty.
One thing that I think I know about nursing home outbreaks is that don't seem to tend to spread out to the wider community, at least not in recent months when places have gotten a better handle on what they're dealing with re: COVID-19. That should go double for a spread-out, sparsely-populated area like Real County.
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Insoxicated
Buddy who owns clinics here got me a list of places that carry 15 min tests from his rep.
Called around and found a place that squeezed her in at 3pm after I pleaded my case. Mom is finalizing the appt with their online portal.
Fingers crossed.
top dog
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
I'm not familiar with your area, but no tuition no school. Unless government orders dictate otherwise most private schools around here are opening. Our kids are going, my wife's school is opening, as is the college I work for.culdeus said:
I was pleasantly surprised with the message sent out last night though. I'm in admin and our office needs to be open during regular business hours, but working remote has been extended on a case-to-case basis. I'll still go in for part of one day per week, but I'm starting to believe I'll primarily be WFH into 2021. Which is great...as long as the kids are in school anyway. If not.
Arizona continues to look good in most hospital stats. The only COVID category that continues to increase is emergency visits. Overall acute beds and ICU have been increasing the last few days. Deaths hit a record high of 172 reported today but that’s to be expected. Deaths were scattered from 41 in the last 7 days, 71 in 7-14 days and 59 older than 14 days. Continuing with the long delays on death reporting and back filling the epi (actual date) death curve.
Testing is still woeful at testing with under 12k despite tomorrow being the day that capacity was promised to be increased to 35k and would be through the huge backlog.
Testing is still woeful at testing with under 12k despite tomorrow being the day that capacity was promised to be increased to 35k and would be through the huge backlog.
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
Hopefully they can get through....they are shutting down all the testing sites here in Central Florida in "preparation" for a storm that might get here on Sunday. Those must be some complicated ### pop up tents they have to take down
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Are the pop up sites manned by locals? Could be travel arrangements that require the lead time. The pop up sites by us are manned partially by national guard. They move around a lot.Hopefully they can get through....they are shutting down all the testing sites here in Central Florida in "preparation" for a storm that might get here on Sunday. Those must be some complicated ### pop up tents they have to take down
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
Why some people who haven't had Covid-19 might already have some immunity
"The immune systems of some people who have not been exposed to the novel coronavirus could have some familiarity with the pathogen -- possibly helping to reduce the severity of illness if that person does get Covid-19, a new study suggests.
The study, published in the journal Nature on Wednesday, found that among a sample of 68 healthy adults in Germany who had not been exposed to the coronavirus, 35% had T cells in their blood that were reactive to the virus.
It's not entirely surprising because these are all members of a family. It's as though they're cousins in the same family," he said. "Now we have to see whether there is any impact of this in clinical practice. ... Does it make it more or less likely that the person who is infected with Covid actually will develop an illness? And does it have any implications for vaccine development?"
"The immune systems of some people who have not been exposed to the novel coronavirus could have some familiarity with the pathogen -- possibly helping to reduce the severity of illness if that person does get Covid-19, a new study suggests.
The study, published in the journal Nature on Wednesday, found that among a sample of 68 healthy adults in Germany who had not been exposed to the coronavirus, 35% had T cells in their blood that were reactive to the virus.
It's not entirely surprising because these are all members of a family. It's as though they're cousins in the same family," he said. "Now we have to see whether there is any impact of this in clinical practice. ... Does it make it more or less likely that the person who is infected with Covid actually will develop an illness? And does it have any implications for vaccine development?"
Sand
Footballguy
Battersbox
Footballguy
It's almost as if the old narrative that people need to build up their immunity systems is true.
MN hospitalizations bottomed out around 230 on 7/10 (ICU cases bottomed out around 100 on 7/16) but have slowly and steadily climbed since then. Currently at 298 hospitalized, with 141 of those being in ICU. Deaths have been in the single digits every day for a few weeks, so I guess that's good news (better than what we had been seeing in April and May). The 7 day moving average of new positive tests has climbed from a low of 319 on 6/19 to 712. If you want to call it good news, the positivity rate has been 4.5-5.0 percent in MN the last two or three weeks, so it looks like the increase in new positive tests tracks with the increase in testing.
Most large/chain stores had recently starting requiring masks and last week the governor issued an order requiring masks everywhere indoors. The few places I've gone indoors I've seen really good (I'd estimate 95% or more) compliance, so hopefully numbers start trending down. It could go either way, but I'm hopeful we'll start to see real improvement in MN somewhat soon.
shadyridr
Footballguy
My wife's aunt, uncle, and cousins all went on a family trip to Ocean City, MD. According to our state rules, they need to quarantine for 14 days when they come back. They won't. I told my wife not to go around them for 2 weeks. But here's the real kicker. The aunt & uncle watch my wife's grandmother (the uncle's mother) full time. She is in her 90s and has dementia. She obviously didn't go on the trip but will be going home with them on their return. I almost feel like they want her to die so they don't have to take care of her anymore. So dumb and sad.
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parasaurolophus
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That looks similar to BBC story I posted yesterday. They found t-cells like this in old samples of blood, like two years old maybe, dont remember exactly.
Pipes
Footballguy
WI just announced mandatory masks starting Saturday. Many local communities have had orders in place for weeks now but this is great news. Social media is going to be very entertaining tonight once people hear this news.
Interesting... curious what some of my friends and family will do now as they have been spending time in at cabins in WI so that they don't have to wear masks back home in MN.
The Commish
Footballguy
We have both...some sites move, others have been in the same place the whole time (like at our convention center). I don't know who works at them though. All of them (that I've seen) are those $200 pop up tents people use at the beach.
Doug B
Footballguy
Articles like this have been dripping and drabbing out for two months. In my own mind, I've seen enough about this from enough varying sources -- there's something to it.
Speculating: There's a hint of a possible COVID-19 resolution in articles like these. Instead of (A) true herd immunity and also instead of (B) a widely-distributed vaccine or anti-viral treatments ... (C) COVID-19 might simply diminish gradually after it has gone through the gravely unfortunate who were either especially vulnerable or did not have the "close-enough" T-cells in their bodies to limit the effects of a COVID-19 infection. At an indefinite point in the future, then, COVID-19 might simply become like so many other endemic diseases which human society is willing to risk to go about everyday human activities.
beer 30
Footballguy
shader
Footballguy
It would be nice to have more studies to figure this out, as this could dramatically change the outlook.
As an example, imagine that 35% of people in NYC had T cells in their blood have immunity. Then add to that the 20-25% of people in NYC that have already had covid. WE could be in a situation where herd immunity isn't too far away in NYC...
AAABatteries
Footballguy
This post reminded me about a question I've had but forgot to ask it. Early on there were comments about folks getting the flu vaccine - if my recollection was correct it was a recommended thing to do. I'm assuming that was solely because you wouldn't want to catch Covid and then the flu on top it. There's nothing in the flu vaccine that helps with Covid - correct? And that leads to my actual question.
The reason I ask is this - my wife is not able to get the flu vaccine due to having had Guillain-Barré as a child. Would she also not be able to get the Covid vaccine?
beer 30
Footballguy
This puts a new spin on the situation by combining COVID-19 with discriminatory practices. Puts a nice bow on 2020 I think.
https://www.fortmillsun.com/2020/07/29/open-letter-fort-mill-resident-calls-for-end-to-towns-mask-mandate/
https://www.fortmillsun.com/2020/07/29/open-letter-fort-mill-resident-calls-for-end-to-towns-mask-mandate/
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Insoxicated
Mom tested negative. Jesus that's good to hear.
Was talking about getting winded just making the bed so I'm not 100% convinced, but that's insanely good news if true. A Flu B or Stomach bug positive would ease my mind further.
Hopefully this scares them enough to stop having freinds over 2-3 times a week. "But It's just our neighbors (half of which are Anti-Maskers)"... "But it's just 6..8...10 of us".....
Was talking about getting winded just making the bed so I'm not 100% convinced, but that's insanely good news if true. A Flu B or Stomach bug positive would ease my mind further.
Hopefully this scares them enough to stop having freinds over 2-3 times a week. "But It's just our neighbors (half of which are Anti-Maskers)"... "But it's just 6..8...10 of us".....
Cowboysfan8
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A simple request - if you’re coming into the pharmacy to pickup you’re prescriptions for Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin please don’t start hacking up a lung as you approach the counter. And definitely don’t remove your mask to speak to us. I hate people.
Note: I did not sign off on filling this script.
Note: I did not sign off on filling this script.
trader jake
Footballguy
No, they do NOT look good in any COVID19 related statistic. At all.
You can say the numbers of the state are going in the right direction. You can hope the state has turned the corner or hope the state has crested the peak of cases, etc. Sorry to be pedantic, but you absolutely can not say that "Arizona continues to look good" when it comes to this virus.
Arizona has been a complete #### show. It's cool to be optimistic, be let's also be real here.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Great that it was negative! Did they ask her to retest? Family member that I have that was positive tested negative at first (displaying mild symptoms at that time) and positive 5 days later when they asked her to retest. Hoping for the best and a quick recovery, no matter what, GB.
True I could have worded it better but don’t mistake it for downplaying it. I’m probably one of the more pessimistic in this thread. ‘Looking good’ for me is not waking up to see new all-time highs for COVID hospitalization every day. You’re right, they’re not good but seeing those key hospital numbers at their lowest in nearly a month, that’s at least a positive trend and I’ll take the little wins right now.
And at least one county Sheriff Department has announced they won't enforce it.
YEAH BABY!!!
the moops
Footballguy
I am happy to hear this. I am going to Green Bay area next week to buy a camper. I looked up the guy I am buying it from, and well, by what he posts on social media, it is not a stretch to imagine he is 110% anti-masker. Hopefully the mandate allows me to avoid any awkward confrontations
Franknbeans
Footballguy
cydy is your friend
Multiple county law enforcement offices now saying they will not enforce the mandate.
Good.....they have more important things to be concerned with than mask enforcement.
The Commish
Footballguy
DallasDMac
Footballguy
Yep. Nothing would make me feel more confident in my local law enforcement than knowing they pick and choose what laws and mandates they want to enforce.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
More gloominess at Covid worldometers: 280,000 new cases with the US back in the lead with over 68,000 new cases. Brazil (58K) and India (55K) close behind. This is still widespread with 28 countries over 1,000 new cases for the day. Over 6,200 deaths with the US leading the way with 1,465 deaths.
The seven-day averages for cases in the US trended down slightly this week, however, the rolling average for daily deaths has continued to rise through July. Here in Illinois, we had our highest new case count in two months.
The seven-day averages for cases in the US trended down slightly this week, however, the rolling average for daily deaths has continued to rise through July. Here in Illinois, we had our highest new case count in two months.
matuski
Footballguy
Were you confident in them before.. ya know, when they picked and chose what laws and mandates to enforce?
matuski
Footballguy
Can you imagine being a cop/officer and getting called over every time someone isn't wearing a mask?
What are you gonna do, arrest them.. throw them in jail?
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Cases seem to be dropping in hospitalized COVID patients at Miami's 2 largest health systems, Jackson (449, 428, 471, 456, 472, 485, 465, 433, 421) and Baptist (808, 785, .., ..., 746, 704, 650) https://twitter.com/jacksonhealth
County-wide numbers of hospitalized COVID patients are also trending down, although not a fast: https://twitter.com/conarck/status/1288891345575325697
In other news: How many health workers has COVID killed? Fla. says it has no data. False, ex-data guru says. Seems like Florida and Texas aren't making it easy to find out how many many nurses, etc have died with COVID-19, but California is more transparent. It took a lawsuit for Tallahassee to release data about deaths in individual nursing homes.
Perhaps reported earlier : Cases Declining, Deaths Rising, Hospital Data Remains a Question Mark: This Week in COVID-19 Data, July 30
Many of the tracking web-sites are so much better on my laptop than my phone.
County-wide numbers of hospitalized COVID patients are also trending down, although not a fast: https://twitter.com/conarck/status/1288891345575325697
In other news: How many health workers has COVID killed? Fla. says it has no data. False, ex-data guru says. Seems like Florida and Texas aren't making it easy to find out how many many nurses, etc have died with COVID-19, but California is more transparent. It took a lawsuit for Tallahassee to release data about deaths in individual nursing homes.
Perhaps reported earlier : Cases Declining, Deaths Rising, Hospital Data Remains a Question Mark: This Week in COVID-19 Data, July 30
Many of the tracking web-sites are so much better on my laptop than my phone.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
We all gonna gloss over shader peeking out from the dark side?
Downin a flyjack in you honor shader!
Downin a flyjack in you honor shader!
What's a flyjack? Hopefully my guess that it is a tasty beverage of some sort is correct
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Crack one open for me.... I've got a Golden Road Wolf Pup myself
Doug B
Footballguy
Everything you brought up is a solvable problem. Solving such problems is a matter of will.
What's the hang-up on getting Americans food in a hypothetical hard lockdown situation? There are a jillion other ways to do that besides "work for wages, then go buy food".
And heck -- even in Wuhan during the hardest part of their lockdown ... households were allowed to grocery-shop weekly.
