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Government Response To The Coronavirus (10 Viewers)
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Sheriff Bart
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Grace Under Pressure
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Henry Ford
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Count I’m seeing is that there are currently 72 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the United States.
Henry Ford
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A second American has died from the coronavirus.
The General
Footballguy
No way this doesn’t get into the 1000 cases range within a week or so right?
My work which doesn’t shut down for anything just sent out a email saying if you were in contact with someone traveling in Asia, Italy stay home for 2 weeks.
Things gonna get nutty.
My work which doesn’t shut down for anything just sent out a email saying if you were in contact with someone traveling in Asia, Italy stay home for 2 weeks.
Things gonna get nutty.
First two cases in Florida, in the Tampa Bay area. One had traveled to Italy, one with no known connection to a virus cluster: https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/national/coronavirus/two-presumptive-cases-of-coronavirus-reported-in-tampa-bay
The state just recently obtained the ability to test for the virus in 3 locations, Miami, Tampa and Jacksonville, saving a day or two in diagnosis over sending to CDC.
The governor just declared a public health emergency in the state. I guess that gives him more power for quarantines and others measures for containment. And to spend money where needed.
The state just recently obtained the ability to test for the virus in 3 locations, Miami, Tampa and Jacksonville, saving a day or two in diagnosis over sending to CDC.
The governor just declared a public health emergency in the state. I guess that gives him more power for quarantines and others measures for containment. And to spend money where needed.
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JamieMurphy
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This can't be good:
Reuters headline: "New York state confirms first coronavirus case: Governor Cuomo"
Reuters headline: "New York state confirms first coronavirus case: Governor Cuomo"
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Dickies
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SaintsInDome2006
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SaintsInDome2006
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VP Pence’s communications Director Kate Miller is in charge of approving all CV statements.
- She’s also Stephen Miller’s wife.
- She’s also Stephen Miller’s wife.
IvanKaramazov
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I talked with several people at church this weekend who still think that this is all much ado about nothing, "the seasonal flu is worse," etc. (Nobody mentioned the hippopotamus menace, thankfully). So there are still a lot of people out there with what I view as their heads in the sand. My town of ~20,000 has one hospital with literally like 12 beds. We can't handle any kind of outbreak that puts people on respirators. As a healthy 47 year old, I'm not at all worried about my own personal health or that of my wife or my late-teen/early-20s kids. But we are in for a serious disruption of daily life if they shut down the schools and tell people to self-quarantine because of medical triage.The General said:
I have a very strong feeling that the coronavirus is play out like: nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, oh hey this is becoming a thing, OMG EVERYTHING IS SHUT DOWN.
IvanKaramazov
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The Commish
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Was talking to my wife last night about this. I have a friend living in SE China a good ways away from the origin and have been following his experience via his blog. I don't think it's a stretch to say when all is said and done, there are more cases of this virus in the US than China. I can't see people in the US doing the things required to stop this thing from spreading communally. People aren't allowed to leave their homes and if they do, only one at a time for food. While they are out, they are stopped and tested for fevers 5-6 times just going to the store and back. I simply can't see the people here NOT being of the "gubment ain't gonna tell me what I can do!!!" variety.
Lutherman2112
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I'm taking care of my 83 year old Dad. Saturday I talked to his pharmacist and will be picking up a 60 day supply of Dad's meds today. I am seriously considering taking some time off if the virus shows up in my area.
The Commish
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Two cases here in Florida...Tampa area 
One traveled to Italy....other appears to be communal, which means many more are coming
One traveled to Italy....other appears to be communal, which means many more are coming
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parasaurolophus
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So the surgeon general is telling people not to buy masks. The CDC is telling people...
Ummmm....How do you expect people to not want to buy masks?
Sheriff Bart
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The case in NY is someone that was in Italia and they claimed to have isolated themselves when experiencing symptoms. At least that's what was reported.
parasaurolophus
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Sheriff Bart
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parasaurolophus
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Henry Ford
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I cannot stress enough how unbelievably stupid it is that people are being charged three thousand dollars to be tested for the coronavirus.
If there is ever a function for government intervention to pay for healthcare of any kind, it is testing people for a potential pandemic. Good God.
If there is ever a function for government intervention to pay for healthcare of any kind, it is testing people for a potential pandemic. Good God.
The Commish
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I haven't followed any of this administration's comments since I found out Pence was running the show and Kudlow said it was fine. I am foregoing all the nonsense and using common sense in it's place. That said, I am curious what the Surgeon General's rationale was to instruct people NOT to buy masks? I mean, I get saying something like, "you can buy masks, but we don't think that's necessary" or something of the like but that's a bit different.
whoknew
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Maybe I missed it but I didn't see this discussed -
Coronavirus patient released by CDC later tests positive again in San Antonio
San Antonio Mayor Ron Nirenberg criticized the Center for Disease Control in a Facebook post Sunday after the CDC reportedly released a patient who later tested positive for COVID-19, known as coronavirus.
According to the mayor, the patient was quarantined and fully treated after contracting COVID-19. After treatment, the patient tested negative for the virus twice and was discharged from the Texas Center for Infectious Disease in San Antonio on Saturday before a third test was returned positive.
Coronavirus patient released by CDC later tests positive again in San Antonio
San Antonio Mayor Ron Nirenberg criticized the Center for Disease Control in a Facebook post Sunday after the CDC reportedly released a patient who later tested positive for COVID-19, known as coronavirus.
According to the mayor, the patient was quarantined and fully treated after contracting COVID-19. After treatment, the patient tested negative for the virus twice and was discharged from the Texas Center for Infectious Disease in San Antonio on Saturday before a third test was returned positive.
parasaurolophus
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It isn't just the surgeon general. Tons of interviews with doctors and WHO officials and whoever else saying the same thing.
I get that doctors need them more and that if doctors cant get them, then they will spread more diseases as well as corona virus. But that's not the mask being ineffective.
The mask doesn't prevent a healthy person from contracting this virus but can help infected people from spreading it. The masks are designed to keep water droplets in which is how the virus is transmitted. The virus is not currently believed to be airborne contaminant. So healthy people buying up the supply of masks are not helping themselves but are hurting healthcare workers who are in shortened supply of the masks the require for their work.
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Drunken Cowboy
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Wearing a mask actually helps people avoid touching their nose/mouth more because there is a mask in the way. Instead of saying don't wear a mask, how about communicating how to properly fit a mask.
You know like this video produced by Singapore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoxpvDVo_NI&feature=youtu.be
The Commish
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Sorry guys...still don't understand the instruction NOT to buy them. Is it because of a shortage?
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
I have yet to see any actual data for this
And there are studies that show face mask use can reduce the risk of catching the flu. I don't know of any studies that show face mask use causes an increase.
parasaurolophus
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I am trying to find it, but I read one doctor that said you are more likely to touch the mask when it feels uncomfortable and that this is dangerous because if the virus was on the front of the mask it is now on your hand and yo could touch your eyes or door handles and stuff.
Ummmm......
joffer
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except we don't have many test kits yet, so noThe General said:
there were 2 docs on cnbc this morning saying they think we already have over 1000 cases but we can't know that for maybe a couple more weeks because the cdc dropped the ball and the first test kits they provided didn't work. they said that put us 2 to 3 weeks behind where we should be.
and, holy ####, the health dept. spokesperson for Allegheny County in PA (Pittsburgh and surrounding) was just on the noon news and said they were told it would be about 2 months till they can get test kits, though the state has some.
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The Commish
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NorvilleBarnes
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Now it's in Tampa. 
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Yeah, some people royally screwed this up.
WHO put out a standard protocol for testing for this virus. It was well publicized. However, labs in the US were not allowed to use the WHO protocol, and instead had to use the CDC test kits, which a) were in short supply, and b) didn't work. It was pure hubris on the part of the CDC to insist on their methodology for testing while there was a proven protocol that the rest of the world was using. Furthermore, since not many tests were being done and those that were being done couldn't be relied upon, the number of positive tests in the US was extremely low. This meant that decision makers at CDC, NIH, WH, etc. didn't have an accurate picture of the situation. Thus, they believed that containment through stopping travel from China was effective. Hint: It wasn't.
I find it hard to believe that there weren't tons of public health processionals ringing the alarm that the US should be testing testing testing. Ramping up test capacity and contact tracing capabilities should have been the number one and number two priorities for this crisis. Instead, the decision makers sat on their hands and waited for the outbreak to plant seeds on US soil.
squistion
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:(
https://twitter.com/diagnosinghc/status/1234494148108939264
A Florida man, Osmel Martinez Azcue, who returned from China and found himself becoming sick. Because of the risk of coronavirus, he did the responsible thing & sought medical attention. In the end, it turned out not to be coronavirus — but he was billed $3,270.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/health-care/article240476806.html
https://twitter.com/diagnosinghc/status/1234494148108939264
A Florida man, Osmel Martinez Azcue, who returned from China and found himself becoming sick. Because of the risk of coronavirus, he did the responsible thing & sought medical attention. In the end, it turned out not to be coronavirus — but he was billed $3,270.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/health-care/article240476806.html
Osaurus
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Sweet J
Footballguy
Just had a planning call at work. We had a scheduled annual meeting with about 50 managers from around the country to come for conference for a week at the end of March. We are probably going to cancel it. Although we are NOT cancelling because of the virus, of course. It's just not a good time.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
A potential pandemic = potentially record profits! Whoo hoo!
Hey, too bad if you can't afford proper medical attention or don't have insurance, there's profits to be made off the sick!
squistion
Footballguy
:(
FEMA is preparing for a possible coronavirus emergency declaration
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fema-prepping-possible-coronavirus-emergency-declaration-n1147016?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
FEMA is preparing for a possible coronavirus emergency declaration
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fema-prepping-possible-coronavirus-emergency-declaration-n1147016?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
The General
Footballguy
Cost and lack of HC are going to exacerbate this a ton.
People scarping by at hourly jobs are going to go to work and not go to doctor.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
How can they expect normal citizens to contribute to eliminating the potential risk of person-to-person spread if hospitals are waiting to charge us $3,270 for a simple blood test and a nasal swab?” he said.
Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/health-care/article240476806.html#storylink=cpy
Yup.
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