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Government Response To The Coronavirus (8 Viewers)
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Dickies
Footballguy
We need to give all opinions, no matter how inane, equal consideration. This is becoming a serious problem in this country.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Bottomfeeder Sports
Footballguy
The Z Machine
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
looks they formed to just push that idea. they began in june 2020.
they haven't published or posted a thing from any of the other findings. or any other research. or any other covid information what-so-ever.
matuski
Footballguy
This is a summary of 65 studies. 39 (typo above) were published/peer reviewed.
I don't follow.
They didn't begin in June 2020, they were finalized beginning June 2020?
matuski
Footballguy
I'm betting you didn't bother reading. Among the 65 studies are those that had negative results.
Among the large number of positives, there is a pattern. Can you spot it?
eta - also your links are part of my link
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The General
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
I mean your links were part of mine, give it some effort? In fact one reinforces the pattern.
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The General
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
Nope. In fact almost all of the studies show that early (PrEP, PEP, etc) treatment shows high effectiveness.
Late treatment is mixed.
So really one way it appears highly effective (early). The other not so much.
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matuski
Footballguy
@The General In fact your linked study is of particular interest.. look down the list and click on the comments:
The bar graph is telling.
The General
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
I imagine if you take the data as a whole (including the late administering of HCQ), the average may come out as indifferent. I am spit balling.
But as you can see, their own data shows significance (p=.002) between early and late.
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The General
Footballguy
That does seem weird but I’d go with the people who did the study and released the findings in reaching a conclusion.
Mile High
Footballguy
OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
My wife loves/loved VEEP.
I watching remember the first season (2012?) and thinking it was great. But I also thought it was a little over the top. Meaning the jokes came way too fast and it blurred the line between satire and farce. I think I remember telling my wife “this is funny but it is pretty outlandish”.
I sit corrected.
The General
Footballguy
Yup. When he speaks if given a few minutes he will say something completely bizarre. Every time. It’s pretty impressive.
gianmarco
Footballguy
He's such a narcissistic baby. He's concerned about approval ratings compared to a doctor.
Nobody likes me
President Donald Trump said Tuesday his relationship with Dr. Anthony Fauci is "very good" but wondered why the doctor's approval rating is so high when his is so low.
Speaking a day after he retweeted a message claiming Fauci had misled the public, Trump chalked up his own sinking numbers to his personality.
But he said Fauci's broad respect should transfer to the Trump administration -- for whom Fauci works.
"I get along with him very well and I agree with a lot of what he's said," Trump insisted.
"It's interesting: he's got a very good approval rating. And I like that, it's good," he went on. "Because remember: he's working for this administration. He's working with us. We could have gotten other people. We could have gotten somebody else. It didn't have to be Dr. Fauci. He's working with our administration. And for the most part we've done what he and others -- and Dr. Birx and others -- have recommended."
Trump continued: "And he's got this high approval rating. So why don't I have a high approval rating with respect -- and the administration -- with respect to the virus? We should have it very high."
"So it sort of is curious," Trump said, "a man works for us, with us, very closely, Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx also, very highly thought of -- and yet, they're highly thought of, but nobody likes me?"
"It can only be my personality, that's all," he said
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Bucsfan5493
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So then why isn’t every country offering it up to help fight the coronavirus? I’ve seen so much fake information on this topic, so I’m genuinely interested. If studies say that it seems to work for a decent percentage of people, then why aren’t we and other countries giving it to everyone?
Mile High
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
The video, President Big Boy Pants walked out on the 2nd question.
Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
This is the only reason I’ve heard from Republicans and Trump supporters. I have a very hard time believing that thousands of doctors and other countries are all in on the ploy to kill more of their citizens just to give Trump a worse chance at getting re-elected.
I believe matuski is not a Trump supporter so I’m wondering if he has a legit reason on why the drug wouldn’t be given out widespread if it truly helps.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
Again though, even if you debate the one point.....
This is a review of 64 others as well. It is eye opening, you seem resistant to it.
Political reasons?
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
He's a weird guy. Trump often points out the news orgs the reporter hails from to presage any question with an implication of bias, and Bloomberg is one of them. Here Trump added to it with the stupid joke that the guy looked like Mike Bloomberg (and obviously he's black), just weird.
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SaintsInDome2006
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Rep. Louie Gohmert has Covid19.
- He learned of it from a screening at the White House.
- He was at yesterday's Barr hearing, maskless.
eta - Apparently he met with the President and GOP lawmakers at the WH. (I guess they let him meet before the screening was complete).
- He learned of it from a screening at the White House.
- He was at yesterday's Barr hearing, maskless.
eta - Apparently he met with the President and GOP lawmakers at the WH. (I guess they let him meet before the screening was complete).
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-jb-
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Dickies
Footballguy
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Loved hearing Biden was asked what he would do regarding COVID if he was the President and he goes on to list everything Trump is already doing. 
Classic.
Those complaining about the government response have no legs to stand on. We are doing almost everything correct.
Classic. Those complaining about the government response have no legs to stand on. We are doing almost everything correct.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Let me guess...it didn't go down just like this.Loved hearing Biden was asked what he would do regarding COVID if he was the President and he goes on to list everything Trump is already doing.
Those complaining about the government response have no legs to stand on. We are doing almost everything correct.
And the point is probably more...what he would have done...because the response at the beginning was what was in question more than what is being done currently. And you know that...but chose to just ignore it?
The Gator
Footballguy
Hello, karma, my old friend.
This is no joke. And the sooner we get people off the conspiracy sites, and into reality, the better. I hope Gohmert has a full recovery - and I hope that many non-believers have a change of heart/attitude/behavior.
The General
Footballguy
I’m not a doctor and don’t know how to interpret this stuff. That no one from the republican news side makes this point tends to make think that it is not a strong argument for it.
Fauci just the other day repeated something to the effect that there is no clinically proven benefit.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
There is an easy way to check your work.Loved hearing Biden was asked what he would do regarding COVID if he was the President and he goes on to list everything Trump is already doing.
The Biden Plan To Combat Coronavirus
- wide availability of free testing
- elimination of all cost barriers to preventive care and treatment for COVID-19
- full deployment of necessary supplies
- decisive economic response that starts with emergency paid leave for all those affected by the outbreak
- Immediately restore the White House National Security Council Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense
Green Balloons
Footballguy
We're sadly to a point where public safety isn't going to be a priority until prominent science skeptics start getting sick or even die. Trump years really are the Dark Ages.
The Gator
Footballguy
I wish I were making this up:
.@replouiegohmert: "I can’t help but wonder if by keeping a mask on and keeping it in place, if I might have put some… of the virus on the mask and breathed it in”
[scooter]
Footballguy
He can't help but wonder if he might have breathed the virus out and then breathed it back in again?
I'm sure the Biden admin would create a new department to be better prepared for future pandemics. I'd be curious to understand how much impact not having that in place would have changed our current circumstances.
We're now testing between 750 and 850K most days and they claim to have a stockpile of all necessary supplies. It does concern me that a very simple question (do we have enough supplies) results in two different answers so would like to understand if we are currently prepared for the fall, and, if not, what actions are being taken to prepare.
One thing I've heard both Biden/Trump talk about, but don't recall seeing any specifics is reducing our supply chain dependency on China. Is that even realistic? Who's pushing this more and how? This would be a #1 issue for me.
Bottomfeeder Sports
Footballguy
You mean staff the various positions that had already existed? That had already had created a play book? That had us the "most prepared" nation for such a thing? Until the jobs were eliminated.
Skoo
Footballguy
To be fair, he's a symptom not the cause. Though he's certainly made things worse.
But this is the result of decades of anti-intellectualism. We've seen it for years with global warming.
Currently, 58% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say colleges and universities have a negative effect on the way things are going in the country, while just 36% say their effect is positive,
58%. That's just insane.
Snorkelson
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