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Stop with the drama Tim. What about younger people in the service industry? People that work at restaurants for tips, or other service places? And you’re in here whining about your life. Dude, take a step back. 
Yeah, what about them (me)? What about anyone employed at a stadium? What about the businesses around the stadium? 3 months from now, will these people be buying cars? Probably not, so now it’s factory workers. Trickle down economics.
 

Probably hiring morticians though.

 
Seriously? I’m not complaining about me. @BladeRunner stated I was overreacting. I don’t think I am. All of the people you’re talking about, and I know plenty of them, I’m sure you do too. They’re all suffering far worse than I am and for the same reason; because this mess was handled incompetently from the start. And we all knew this guy was incompetent, you did too, and yet you continued to support him. And you supported the senators who shirked from their constitutional duty and refused to remove him. And now we’re all paying the price for it: you, me, everyone. 
Whatever you want to believe. 

 
Seriously? I’m not complaining about me. @BladeRunner stated I was overreacting. I don’t think I am. All of the people you’re talking about, and I know plenty of them, I’m sure you do too. They’re all suffering far worse than I am and for the same reason; because this mess was handled incompetently from the start. And we all knew this guy was incompetent, you did too, and yet you continued to support him. And you supported the senators who shirked from their constitutional duty and refused to remove him. And now we’re all paying the price for it: you, me, everyone. 
Don't get sucked in man. It's a lost cause.

 
Yeah, what about them (me)? What about anyone employed at a stadium? What about the businesses around the stadium? 3 months from now, will these people be buying cars? Probably not, so now it’s factory workers. Trickle down economics.
 

Probably hiring morticians though.
Automakers are shutting down factories temporarily.

 
Buck stops with Trump. Every historical trend suggests he would have decided to stand everyone down and lie and control a narrative that benefited him. He protected market value first, and that meant hiding the truth and preventing science and medicine to test and provide transparency and intervention that might have prevented trillions in economic losses, and countless lives. The virus is not his fault. His lack of ethics, truthfulness, competence, respect for expertise, understanding of science, and his willingness to interfere with career specialists is. 
Excellent post. Nailed it.

 
Buck stops with Trump. Every historical trend suggests he would have decided to stand everyone down and lie and control a narrative that benefited him. He protected market value first, and that meant hiding the truth and preventing science and medicine to test and provide transparency and intervention that might have prevented trillions in economic losses, and countless lives. The virus is not his fault. His lack of ethics, truthfulness, competence, respect for expertise, understanding of science, and his willingness to interfere with career specialists is. 

We did not mobilize in time, and when history is written, that was largely Trump.
You forgot installing a bunch of yes men that don’t know what they’re doing instead of getting qualified people that can pass a bipartisan vote. 

 
You forgot installing a bunch of yes men that don’t know what they’re doing instead of getting qualified people that can pass a bipartisan vote. 
What bipartisan vote?  The left was talking impeachment the day after he got elected.  You really think they were going to work with him or the GOP on ANYTHING?  If so, I respectfully submit to you that is nothing but a lie.  They were NEVER going to work with Trump or the GOP.

 
What bipartisan vote?  The left was talking impeachment the day after he got elected.  You really think they were going to work with him or the GOP on ANYTHING?  If so, I respectfully submit to you that is nothing but a lie.  They were NEVER going to work with Trump or the GOP.
You talk of others over reacting yet you come spouting the talking point of the left talking impeachment the day after he was elected. Talk about arguing in bad faith...

 
What bipartisan vote?  The left was talking impeachment the day after he got elected.  You really think they were going to work with him or the GOP on ANYTHING?  If so, I respectfully submit to you that is nothing but a lie.  They were NEVER going to work with Trump or the GOP.
Senate confirmation of positions has never been a problem really. He has what, 100 positions with acting heads?

 
What bipartisan vote?  The left was talking impeachment the day after he got elected.  You really think they were going to work with him or the GOP on ANYTHING?  If so, I respectfully submit to you that is nothing but a lie.  They were NEVER going to work with Trump or the GOP.
Trump sees an advantage in their status.

"I like 'acting' because I can move so quickly," he told CBS' Face The Nation in February, adding, "It gives me more flexibility." 
 

this wasn’t this past February, but it appears this is a strategy employed by trump. Feel free to set me straight.

 
You talk of others over reacting yet you come spouting the talking point of the left talking impeachment the day after he was elected. Talk about arguing in bad faith...
I respectfully submit that you have no idea what "over reacting" actually means.  Have a good day!

 
Trump sees an advantage in their status.

"I like 'acting' because I can move so quickly," he told CBS' Face The Nation in February, adding, "It gives me more flexibility." 
 

this wasn’t this past February, but it appears this is a strategy employed by trump. Feel free to set me straight.
You're good.  Thanks!

 
Sorry to shatter your talking point. I guess yelling “you just hate trump” is all you have left at this point, and even that is debunked. 
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you didn't shatter anything.  :shrug:

All you debunked was the idea that posters aren't consumed by Trump 24/7.  I hope Trump at least sends you rent checks for all the space he's taking up in your head.

 
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I've stayed out of the entire PSF since this all started, except for one quick venture in. I'll leave after this.

Thank you President Trump. I voted for you in 2016 but didn't expect to this year.

Now I will. #trump2020

 
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but you didn't shatter anything.  :shrug:

All you debunked was the idea that posters aren't consumed by Trump 24/7.  I hope Trump at least sends you rent checks for all the space he's taking up in your head.
The irony of those who come here to complain about Trump haters 24/7 complaining about Trump 24/7 is not lost on many of us.  

 
I've stayed out of the entire PSF since this all started, except for one quick venture in. I'll leave after this.

Thank you President Trump. I voted for you in 2016 but didn't expect to this year.

Now I will. #trump2020
You're not a nice person.

Notebook updated. 

 
Voters don't need to see much to convince them to vote for "their guy" again. A thousand bad things might put them on the brink, but then one moment of "acting presidential" will suddenly bring them right back into the fold again.

That's just human nature.

 
We are in the middle of a crisis and he talks #### to the governor of Michigan, because it’s a battleground state, because the only thing he’s been focused on, from day 1 of taking the oath of office, is getting re-elected. He doesn’t care about me, you or anything else. He’s never stopped campaigning. 
Well he does want to postpone his meeting with the southern district of NY as long as possible 

 
Well he does want to postpone his meeting with the southern district of NY as long as possible 
Exactly. We’re not talking about a guy who is fighting to keep his job and power, we’re talking about someone who is fighting to keep his protection against prosecution. 

 
I've stayed out of the entire PSF since this all started, except for one quick venture in. I'll leave after this.

Thank you President Trump. I voted for you in 2016 but didn't expect to this year.

Now I will. #trump2020
Wait, is Trump reading this thread?  If so, that’s super cool. 

 
Our future: every single household has a thousand disposable test kits. You test yourself as you leave the house, then you test yourself again when you come home. Every store security guard does the same thing -- instead of checking your receipt, he swabs your cheek. Anyone who tests positive gets flagged and either self-quarantines, or goes to a designated facility to wait out the illness. Once you recover, you get a special ID card which gives you quick passage into stores, sporting events, airports, etc.

In the future, your driver's license will not just note if you are an organ donor; it will also list all the viruses that you are immune to.

 
We are in the middle of a crisis and he talks #### to the governor of Michigan, because it’s a battleground state, because the only thing he’s been focused on, from day 1 of taking the oath of office, is getting re-elected. He doesn’t care about me, you or anything else. He’s never stopped campaigning. 
I applaud the Gov. of Michigan, one of the first to shut down schools and restaurants and bars......meanwhile in Florida, people are partying all over the place.....

 
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Very specifically to my last point, so I’m not reported for an unfair attack and suspended myself: 

1. President Trump should have used his executive power a month ago to order the creation or purchase of more tests. I suspect he did not in order to keep the reported numbers down. But whether this is true or not, the fact is that it was not done. 

2. President Trump even now should be ordering the Army Corp of Engineers to build hospital beds in every large city. Medical experts have been urging this for at least 2 weeks and it’s not happening. 

3. President Trump should declare a national quarantine or “freeze in place”. Immediately. He is the only one who can do this. 

These failures are gross incompetence, and people are going to die because of them. If the analogy of a war is correct, then Trump is General McClellan. 

 
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