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I linked a different study. The one in the article he cited was only based on 4 subjects.
I didn't even bother with that link... but a study on four people can tell you a lot. four times more than a study of one person... maybe.
Sadly, yes. Up through now most people here have been wearing masks, etc. Went with the wife yesterday to HD and there was hardly a mask in sight. It's like we hit Memorial Day and we've turned over a new leaf.TLEF316 said:
Some people have to learn the hard way. I wish that this wouldn't happen, and as I said before, I pray I'm wrong, but I think this is still going to get worse before it gets better. We're about to hit 100k dead in the US alone with no end in sight, yet people want to go outside after maybe 2-3 months in quarantine. That's not helping things, because while young people are thus far apparently not getting hit as hard, the older crowd they might interact with is, and this virus has mutated at least once already into a more contagious form. What's stopping it from mutating again into a deadlier disease? I'll tell you what would slow that process down. Doing isolation right for once. Yes, it's likely, and yes the economy isn't going to like it, but I'd rather be able to make money later than needing to go outside now, which I do already.
It's the herd mentality. As some stop wearing masks, those who were on the fence about it are then less likely to do it as a result, and before you know it, far more people are not wearing them than are.
Yup. My sister is a major trumpie. She was wearing a mask for the last few weeks but then said last night she doesn’t think it does anything. Okey dokey.
Well that bold is sure relevant here. Since for plenty of the metrics they discarded one or two of the subjects.
The amount of otherwise smart people that for some reason think masks don't do anything is jarring.
Nothing. However, diseases like this tend to mutate into less deadly forms over time.
What was the delta between the two?
Yup. We have no control over other's actions, so just do what's right for you. When I first started grocery shopping after they instituted masks and arrows on the floor telling you which way to walk, I almost got into a fight. Some tool came the wrong way at me, with no mask. I literally turned my shopping cart sideways and shamed him until he turned around. He could've kicked the crap out of me. Today, I still follow the arrows and wear a mask, but have stopped caring about what others are doing. Can't worry about something you can't control - that just leads to anger.
This was always my biggest worry about opening up. Not the businesses opening but everything viewing it as an all clear signal.
Can you unpack this a bit? As I understand things, mutations are random, and only the ones that improve fitness tend to hang around. This doesn’t necessarily correlate with virulence, unless the the virus becomes so deadly it kills off its hosts before it can replicate/spread.
Here is a good paper on it. Just the abstract is enough to catch the gist - your last statement is correct as far as general theory on why a less virulent disease lasts longer.
That’s really interesting, but runs counter to what we’ve seen with seasonal influenza and HIV, and probably other viruses with which we’ve coexisted a while. It also requires a large percentage of potential hosts to be exposed before the less virulent virus wins out. Moreover, a relatively long incubation period with transmissibility during periods of no/minor symptoms tends to mitigate the proposed evolution.
Here is a video of masks people are wearing and how ineffectual they really are. https://youtu.be/pTA5ndbXaFI. As with any flu it helps to wear the right mask,. Which hardly anyone is using. The flu particles still linger in the air. Then watch this video. https://youtu.be/pZiGJUbxqww. The more you know. Learn the people truth!
