♞ Mike Wallace at 12 million per year (30 guar) for 5 years. (1 Viewer)

[BigSteelThrill]

Mike Wallace at 60 (or 65) million for 5 years with 30 million guaranteed?

Yes -or- No for your team?

NOTE - Salary cap is 123 million.

 

[FUBAR]

Basically 10% of our salary cap?

Tannehill needs a better WR, but not at that price.

 

[Sweet Love]

As a Jets fan, no...we already have an older version (albiet Wallace is better than Holmes ever was) ironically from the same team.

 

[Gawain]

No idea how the contract is structured. If I can structure it any way I want, it's easy to void after 3 years, so 10 million is a touch steep now, but won't be next year. I'd be ok with the Bills bringing him in on something like this if it works out to 3 for 30 or 4 for 40.

 

[Buffaloes]

how did you put a chess piece in the title?

 

[Wingnut]

In before someone asks how to copy/paste the Knight.

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ETA: dammit

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

In before someone asks how to copy/paste the Knight.ETA: dammit

you wish

 

[fatkid]

I would sign Greg Jennings to the same contract but with only the first year guaranteed. Similar player, much better teammate, Similar money, much less risk from a long term contract standpoint.

 

[heidbrink]

He is a one trick pony but it's a damn good trick.

 

[pecorino]

steelers are my team. happy that we did not pay this amount for him. the dolphins may not like this deal in a year or two.

 

[Steeler]

steelers are my team. happy that we did not pay this amount for him.

 

[Touchdown There]

Market price is not set by what 50% of the general public will do. Market price in a closed market of 32 teams is what the top 1/32nd is willing to pay. Pointless question with no application.

 

[=Smackdown=]

Is this where all the Dolphins fans vote "yes" and fans of every other team +MOP vote "no"?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

In the FBG "build a franchise" draft, 12 WRs are gone... and Wallace is still available.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

No idea how the contract is structured. If I can structure it any way I want, it's easy to void after 3 years, so 10 million is a touch steep now, but won't be next year. I'd be ok with the Bills bringing him in on something like this if it works out to 3 for 30 or 4 for 40.

Well if you cut em after 3, its 30million + his salary for the first three years. That's gotta be at least 12 per. With years 4&5 being something like 10 million in salary each. If you get to year 4 that's a better scenario and probably closer to 9.5 per at best. ***Which would make the final year what? 27 million in salary? Otherwise, it'll be more.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Went from 32 degrees to 80 degrees, getting paid almost LeBron type money, no state taxes, it's a good day to be Mike Wallace.

Is it a good day to be a Phins fan?

 

[irish eyes]

HAHAHAHA, apparantly the brainiacs in miami didn't watch Wallace play last year. Drop, drop drop....You'll be seeing this on the list of worst contracts ever in probably a year or two.

 

[Slapdash]

BST, I think the final deal is 12 per year (5/60). Please update your title: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000150045/article/mike-wallace-signs-miami-dolphins-contract

To answer your question: Yes, I want him at that price. I'd rather the Phins got him for 11 but I would have been OK with up to 15. Miami had to go out and get a weapon for Tannehill to contribute NOW.

 

[Donnybrook]

Vikings is my team and he is not worth more than Harvin.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

BST, I think the final deal is 12 per year (5/60). Please update your title: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000150045/article/mike-wallace-signs-miami-dolphins-contract

To answer your question: Yes, I want him at that price. I'd rather the Phins got him for 11 but I would have been OK with up to 15. Miami had to go out and get a weapon for Tannehill to contribute NOW.

In today's NFL no offensive player outside of a franchise QB is worth that kind of money. Even a true HOF level WR that you can funnel an entire offense through (a la Calvin, Fitz, Andre a few years ago) likely isn't worth $15 million a year. And Mike Wallace isn't even remotely close to those guys as a player.If the Dolphins get the 1200 / 10 Mike every year for the next 4/5 then they still likely overpaid. If they get last year's "just showin up" version (and I personally don't see Mike as a "double down on the work ethic to prove I deserve this contract" guy), then it is absolutely awful.

Comedy of errors continues in Miami. Less than a year ago they dumped a WR who is twice the player that Wallace is for peanuts. My prediction has Long signing somewhere else (for waaaaay less than Miami gave Wallace) and developing into the franchise LT he should be while Wallace catches about 50 balls / year.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

BST, I think the final deal is 12 per year (5/60). Please update your title: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000150045/article/mike-wallace-signs-miami-dolphins-contract

To answer your question: Yes, I want him at that price. I'd rather the Phins got him for 11 but I would have been OK with up to 15. Miami had to go out and get a weapon for Tannehill to contribute NOW.

In today's NFL no offensive player outside of a franchise QB is worth that kind of money. Even a true HOF level WR that you can funnel an entire offense through (a la Calvin, Fitz, Andre a few years ago) likely isn't worth $15 million a year. And Mike Wallace isn't even remotely close to those guys as a player.If the Dolphins get the 1200 / 10 Mike every year for the next 4/5 then they still likely overpaid. If they get last year's "just showin up" version (and I personally don't see Mike as a "double down on the work ethic to prove I deserve this contract" guy), then it is absolutely awful.

Comedy of errors continues in Miami. Less than a year ago they dumped a WR who is twice the player that Wallace is for peanuts. My prediction has Long signing somewhere else (for waaaaay less than Miami gave Wallace) and developing into the franchise LT he should be while Wallace catches about 50 balls / year.

Brandon Marshall is a great player, but Brandom Marshall has plenty of warts himself, and does not have the unique ability to take the top off a defense like Wallace does. Both have had issues with drops, but only one of the two is bi-polar (as far as we know at least). Miami is not the first team to jettison Marshall. There is no doubt that Miami overpaid for Wallace, but they had the cash to do it, and needed to make the move to give Tannehill and the rest of the offense a chance to outproduce their kicker. He is not a perfect receiver, but aside from size what he lacks can be coached, and what he brings to the table cannot be taught to others.

Had Miami not made this move, we would all be on here bashing them for drafting a franchise QB and not providing him with the weapons to succeed. They could draft a rookie, but all of the rookies have question marks as well. They got the most coveted FA WR on the market - a guy who changes the way a DC has to gameplan. As a fan of the team, that is what I wanted them to do.

 

[Slapdash]

BST, I think the final deal is 12 per year (5/60). Please update your title: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000150045/article/mike-wallace-signs-miami-dolphins-contract

To answer your question: Yes, I want him at that price. I'd rather the Phins got him for 11 but I would have been OK with up to 15. Miami had to go out and get a weapon for Tannehill to contribute NOW.

In today's NFL no offensive player outside of a franchise QB is worth that kind of money. Even a true HOF level WR that you can funnel an entire offense through (a la Calvin, Fitz, Andre a few years ago) likely isn't worth $15 million a year. And Mike Wallace isn't even remotely close to those guys as a player.If the Dolphins get the 1200 / 10 Mike every year for the next 4/5 then they still likely overpaid. If they get last year's "just showin up" version (and I personally don't see Mike as a "double down on the work ethic to prove I deserve this contract" guy), then it is absolutely awful.

Comedy of errors continues in Miami. Less than a year ago they dumped a WR who is twice the player that Wallace is for peanuts. My prediction has Long signing somewhere else (for waaaaay less than Miami gave Wallace) and developing into the franchise LT he should be while Wallace catches about 50 balls / year.

Brandon Marshall is a great player, but Brandom Marshall has plenty of warts himself, and does not have the unique ability to take the top off a defense like Wallace does. Both have had issues with drops, but only one of the two is bi-polar (as far as we know at least). Miami is not the first team to jettison Marshall. There is no doubt that Miami overpaid for Wallace, but they had the cash to do it, and needed to make the move to give Tannehill and the rest of the offense a chance to outproduce their kicker. He is not a perfect receiver, but aside from size what he lacks can be coached, and what he brings to the table cannot be taught to others.

Had Miami not made this move, we would all be on here bashing them for drafting a franchise QB and not providing him with the weapons to succeed. They could draft a rookie, but all of the rookies have question marks as well. They got the most coveted FA WR on the market - a guy who changes the way a DC has to gameplan. As a fan of the team, that is what I wanted them to do.

Well said. Wallace was by far the best option for the Dolphins once Bowe re-signed. Wallace is a good football move and a good move to get butts in the seats. Salary is high but the Dolphins needed to get this done. I think he is pretty far off the mark on Long too. If Long will take far less than $12 million per year, he will still be in Miami. I don't think it is likely he develops into a franchise player given his regression the last couple of years.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Yeah, for a team in Miami's situation, I can see how anything is better than just doing nothing. But realistically, Wallace has been inconsistent even with a HOF QB who specializes in extending plays and getting the ball downfield. He's now financially set, with a (maybe much) worse QB and supporting cast, and on a team that may or may not be competitive week to week.

Personally I would have preferred more complete players like Vincent Jackson last year, working it out with Marshall (crazy off-field or not), or Percy Harvin (even with the additional cost of the picks). If Greg Jennings comes at a more reasonable price, I think he's a more complete player than Wallace, who just isn't going to make plays inside the hash marks and in front of the safeties.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

The Long comment was more a joke than anything else too. I agree that he's likely going to get more than he should given his play the past few years.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

Yeah, for a team in Miami's situation, I can see how anything is better than just doing nothing. But realistically, Wallace has been inconsistent even with a HOF QB who specializes in extending plays and getting the ball downfield. He's now financially set, with a (maybe much) worse QB and supporting cast, and on a team that may or may not be competitive week to week.Personally I would have preferred more complete players like Vincent Jackson last year, working it out with Marshall (crazy off-field or not), or Percy Harvin (even with the additional cost of the picks). If Greg Jennings comes at a more reasonable price, I think he's a more complete player than Wallace, who just isn't going to make plays inside the hash marks and in front of the safeties.

Wallace is 3-4 years younger than Jennings. As the rest of our moves yesterday suggest, we are clearly trying to get younger. Age aside, I agree that Jennings would be a better signing.