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✦✦✦ Official 2015 Pittsburgh Steelers Thread 
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3C's
Footballguy
This one's pretty good.
Chazbow @EdBouchette @JBaker_WTAJ If he becomes a Steeler, I'm switching to the Eagles. I've been a Steeler fan since 1964.
Ed Bouchette @EdBouchette 29s30 seconds ago
@Chazbow Eagles signed him first when he got out of jail
Chazbow @EdBouchette @JBaker_WTAJ If he becomes a Steeler, I'm switching to the Eagles. I've been a Steeler fan since 1964.
Ed Bouchette @EdBouchette 29s30 seconds ago
@Chazbow Eagles signed him first when he got out of jail
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
People are stupid.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
From a talent standpoint, I like him only marginally better than Gradkowski, and even less so when it comes to the scheme we run.
So considering the very marginal upgrade plus the serious character issues in his past, I would much prefer they find someone else.
I'm not changing my team if they sign him. That's crazy. But oftentimes I am proud of what our front office does (or doesn't do) when others are willing to sacrifice principal for more immediate gratification. Signing him, to me, would mean we've regressed to the mean just a bit.
So considering the very marginal upgrade plus the serious character issues in his past, I would much prefer they find someone else.
I'm not changing my team if they sign him. That's crazy. But oftentimes I am proud of what our front office does (or doesn't do) when others are willing to sacrifice principal for more immediate gratification. Signing him, to me, would mean we've regressed to the mean just a bit.
Evilgrin 72
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Either one of those guys would be great to have on the roster. Only problem is that it's so close to the season now, I'd have rather they swung a deal for one of those guys back in June. If Roethlisberger gets hurt week 1 and either of them has to step in only with only 3-4 weeks to learn the offense, it could be U-G-L-Y. Don't know if either would be an appreciable short-term upgrade over Landry, but if they had time to learn the offense first? No brainer.
I agree with IB.
This is all Tomlin. He tried to get Vick here in 2009 when he was released from prison.
Just from a football stand point this makes no sense and he is 35 now.
From the charges Vick was convicted of --
"A report by a U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) investigator provided more details on the April 2007 killings, saying that the men hung approximately three dogs “by placing a nylon cord over a 2 X 4 that was nailed to two trees located next to the big shed. They also drowned approximately three dogs by putting the dogs’ heads in a five gallon bucket of water.” They killed one dog by “slamming it to the ground several times before it died, breaking the dog’s back or neck.”
“In or about April 2007, PEACE, PHILLIPS, and VICK executed approximately 8 dogs that did not perform well in ‘testing’ sessions … by various methods, including hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog’s body to the ground.” (Federal indictment PDF)
According to a witness, the men fought their trained pit bulls with pet dogs, and they “thought it was funny to watch the pit bull dogs belonging to Bad New Kennels injure or kill the other dogs.”
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
I'm very good with the Vick signing. He is a guy who can win you a game or two.
He may crap the bed like most backups do, but he can certainly win a few as well.
Landry may be done upon Grads return.
He may crap the bed like most backups do, but he can certainly win a few as well.
Landry may be done upon Grads return.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Depending on what they think about Jones it might be more likely they cut Gradkowski. Cutting Jones only saves $550k while cutting Gradkowski saves $1.55M and would only deposit an additional $180k of dead money on next year's cap.
Evilgrin 72
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3C's
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Evilgrin 72
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3C's
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Evilgrin 72
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
I think Vick and Gradkowski is a push. But if he is hurt then I would much rather have him as our 2nd stringer than Landry Jones. The reality is that if Ben does get seriously hurt (missing more than 3 games) then it doesn't really matter who our backup in the season. Vick is a perfectly acceptable 1 game filler.
Don't care about the dog fighting. He has done tons to warn people about why you shouldn't do it and working with Humane Society I think. Now someone needs to put a restraining order on his piece of garbage brother Marcus. That guy has been, still is, and will always be a mess
Don't care about the dog fighting. He has done tons to warn people about why you shouldn't do it and working with Humane Society I think. Now someone needs to put a restraining order on his piece of garbage brother Marcus. That guy has been, still is, and will always be a mess
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
This is Vick's 3rd team since going to jail. He served his time and has done even more since then than most people do once released. He's actually contrite.
People need to get over it. There are players on the team who did a lot worse, didn't apologize, and paid little to no price for their actions.
I'm not as big a fan of the nfl these days (quit all my fantasy teams and only loosely following off-season and steelers) because of greed, goodell, and a lot of these criminal issues. Vick, however, is one of the few who actually took his punishment, apologized for his actions, and by all accounts is a better person and teammate than he was before. The holier than thou and caring about dogs more than women, children, and public safety stinks of something worse.
People need to get over it. There are players on the team who did a lot worse, didn't apologize, and paid little to no price for their actions.
I'm not as big a fan of the nfl these days (quit all my fantasy teams and only loosely following off-season and steelers) because of greed, goodell, and a lot of these criminal issues. Vick, however, is one of the few who actually took his punishment, apologized for his actions, and by all accounts is a better person and teammate than he was before. The holier than thou and caring about dogs more than women, children, and public safety stinks of something worse.
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Amen.Godsbrother said:
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Wonderful.
What began as a very quiet offseason has turned into an awful preseason.
jurb26
Footballguy
So, to sum this up.
Bell out the first 2 games.
Pounce out for early part of the season, but unknown how long yet. If you don't know how important Pouncy is to this team, read this article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2015/08/26/pouncey-injury-makes-leveon-bell-antonio-brown-and-big-ben-big-fantasy-risks/?wprss=rss_sports
Now Bryant missing 4 first games.
Dare I say, stay away from this offense until mid- Oct?
Bell out the first 2 games.
Pounce out for early part of the season, but unknown how long yet. If you don't know how important Pouncy is to this team, read this article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2015/08/26/pouncey-injury-makes-leveon-bell-antonio-brown-and-big-ben-big-fantasy-risks/?wprss=rss_sports
Now Bryant missing 4 first games.
Dare I say, stay away from this offense until mid- Oct?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Godsbrother
Footballguy
If Bryant is appealing it may not be the first 4 games -- I am not sure how long it could be delayed though.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
The hits keep coming.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
I almost posted this after Pouncey got hurt but decided not to...I have had a bad feeling about this season for the last couple of months. Can't explain it, just a feeling I can't shake and now it seems to be coming to life.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I don't think we know if it was recreational or performance-enhancing at this point yet. Bryant did put on some weight in the offseason which could be attributed to HGH or having the munchies.
Gianluca
Footballguy
Ya once I saw the news I instantly thought about him bulking up this offseason. Makes sense now. I read somewhere in the shark pool a thread about when fantasy football clashes with your favorite team which way do you lean? Even though I own Martavis it definitely hurts more as a Steelers fan then a fantasy owner.
Then you read comments like how Ben was hyping up Wheaton this offseason almost as some suggest that Ben knows Martavis was juicing in the offseason. ( if he did I doubt that's why he hyped up Wheaton but what do I know )
3C's
Footballguy
So you see what happened to Bell and the effect it is having on the team, you're (apparently) in the "program" for previously getting caught, yet you continue to break the rules. 
I think they should drop recreational testing, or at least the punishment phase (rehab/counseling instead), but the rules are the rules and you have to abide by them. Not saying this is why they drafted Coates (needed a 4th/depth amongst other things) but certainly is looking like an even better move now.
I think they should drop recreational testing, or at least the punishment phase (rehab/counseling instead), but the rules are the rules and you have to abide by them. Not saying this is why they drafted Coates (needed a 4th/depth amongst other things) but certainly is looking like an even better move now.irish eyes
Footballguy
IF this is the case that he was caught once & knew he would get suspended if caught again, the he is a @#@#@ knucklehead. I really don't want complete efing morons on the team and they will need to look long & hard at drafting a WR next year again. Unless Coates can figure things out.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
I'm hoping they find room on the roster for Tyler Murphy, but with Bryant being out for 4, Hey-Bey is probably more ready to step in and they won't have room to keep him.
irish eyes
Footballguy
UGH! Please no, how is hey-bey still on an NFL roster. I would gladly take Tyler murphy over him.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Bryant will start on the reserve/suspended list. They'll have AB, Wheaton, DHB, Coates on the 53 for sure and then probably Murphy or Phillips. After week 4, Bryant will be added to the 53 and then if they carry 5 wide outs, that 5th guy (probably Murphy) will probably be put on the practice squad.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
As usual, Ben will need to outdo himself this year. He's usually up for the task. 
3C's
Footballguy
+Murphy>Phillips
++DHB isn't horrible, but still has the occasional WTF drops (saw 1 or 2 in the short time I was at practice).
+++Had a dream about Bud last night.
Don't remember the particulars (I seldom do) but he became something along the lines of "steal of the draft" status. #markitdown
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
This defense sucks.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Steeler
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uke:
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Could be. Normally I'd say they can outscore people but when you have 4 Pro Bowlers on your offense and 2 of them are missing games, along with your best big play threat, it doesn't bode well. Especially with the toughest schedule in the league.
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irish eyes
Footballguy
Steelers may have to score 35 to 40 every week to have a chance. When you are getting carved up by ej "effing" Manuel you have big problems.
3C's
Footballguy
Hopefully we're not seeing the best because I don't expect the bills O to be all that much.
Watching on delay...
Evilgrin 72
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Two TDs allowed in 2 drives to the 3rd string QB, 2nd string RB, and 4th and 5th receivers.
Watching on delay...
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