wileytigers
Footballguy
had Lattimore all lined up to pick #1
now what?
the top three picks in PPR dynasty look like .............
now what?
the top three picks in PPR dynasty look like .............
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1.1 dynasty rook pick (1 Viewer)
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Mario Kart
Footballguy
Why are you asking about 1.10 before:
1.09
1.08
1.07
1.06
1.05
1.04
1.03
1.02
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1.01
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1.09
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1.06
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1.01
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ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
He said pick 1. It's not that hard to figure out.
lol I love it when the first response in a thread totally nails it.
Tornacl
Footballguy
I thought it was going to be Lattimore too.Now, for RBs it looks to be between the likes of Bernard, Lacy, Ball, or Taylor. I'm looking at the #1 pick in two leagues for the first time, unfortunately this year has the look of higher bust potential at RB. I think that combine numbers are going to play a much bigger role in determining who the consensus top RB is - and that makes the chance of picking the wrong guy go up quite a bit. I'm not saying that everyone is going to bust, just that it is going to be harder than most years to pick the "right" guy. It has been a while since there has been a year without a pretty strong favorite.had Lattimore all lined up to pick #1now what?the top three picks in PPR dynasty look like .............
3 hour lunch
Footballguy
This. I think siutation may play a little bit more of a role in mocks this year just due to the lack of a true top tier. "Glad" I don't have 1.01 next year at all, but I do have a bunch of extra 1st rounds which I may try to trade for 2014 1sts. I won't pretend to follow college religiously though, so I'm not sure that class is expected to be truly that much better.
Much, much better. There'll probably be 5 guys who are higher rated than whoever winds up becoming the consensus #1 overall from this year's crop.
EBF
Footballguy
That's probably a bit of a stretch, but in general I agree. The biggest difference between the two classes is that next year's group already has one or two can't-miss level prospects in Marqise Lee and Sammy Watkins. Lee is the kind of guy worth trading up for in FF. There's nobody like that this year.However, the depth this year is really strong at WR and there are a handful of RBs who could be great with the right breaks. Bear in mind that a lot of the star backs of the NFL weren't guys who were touted as dominant prospects coming out of college (people like Arian Foster, Ray Rice, LeSean McCoy, Michael Turner, and Maurice Drew). If you put a guy like Stepfan Taylor or Eddie Lacy on the Packers or Falcons, maybe you get something like that. So don't think there can't be talent in this group just because it lacks marquee names. There's value out there. There always is. The biggest problem with this class is that the RB group was decimated by a variety of different situations. Lattimore, Dyer, and Seastrunk were the 5 star RBs in this class coming out of high school and, although they have all shown a lot of potential on the field, it's possible that we won't see a single one of them declare. Lattimore because of injury. Dyer because of character issues and suspensions. Seastrunk because he transferred and is just getting started with his college career. The complexion of this class would be a lot different if all three of those guys were in the draft.Basically, don't overpay for a top 3-5 pick this year. Everything beyond that is about the same value as in any other year though. And while next year has a "wow" caliber player in Lee and maybe another in Watkins, there actually isn't a ton behind them yet. The dropoff is steep at WR and there's no Trent Richardson in that RB class yet, although next year's group of backs might ultimately benefit from 2013's woes, as both Dyer and Seastrunk could be in the draft.
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Abraham
Footballguy
I'm confused - lattimore is done playing football? Because I believe he is entering and if so, than he is worth a high first. And if you are wanting to trade the 1.1 for a 2014 pick and we assume lattimore won't be ready until 2014 than I would absolutely jump on him this year even if he's a year away from contributing.
I don't think it's a stretch at all. Lee and Watkins are both way better than any of this year's WRs. This year has no 1st round RBs, while next year will probably have 2-3. I don't know much about next year's QB crop, but I have a hard time seeing them be worse than this year's at the top, too.
EBF
Footballguy
Agree about Lee and Watkins, but as of right now there aren't really any obvious first round talents in next year's RB class. And the QBs aren't really that amazing. I think the top 3-4 picks will be worth a lot more next year. Beyond that, I think the difference will be negligible. 2013 has really strong depth, with something like 10 WRs who have starting potential. And several of these RBs can be productive at the next level as well.'SSOG said:
yeah - there was someone in my dynasty PPR league that dealt their 1 at the deadline, plus a couple throw ins for Darren McFadden. His pick ended up being the 3th pick in the upcoming draft. Even with his down year, and his injuries, I might still rather have McFadden.
Thankfully My team won it's division and a bye so I'm guaranteed to be picking in the back half of the draft...I think the value there will be like any other year. So often those players outperform the top 5 picks anyhow.
Thankfully My team won it's division and a bye so I'm guaranteed to be picking in the back half of the draft...I think the value there will be like any other year. So often those players outperform the top 5 picks anyhow.
Shutout
Footballguy
Yeah, you gotta give this time to play out because talent is big, but only half (if that) of the equation. You could name a guy that is the 8th best consensus pick two months from now and if a RB-needy team takes him, he'll vault and create instant FF value. And if a team like Indy drafts a WR everyone thought was the 5-10th best WR coming out; doesn't matter. He's now likely you're top 3 WR.
Who is the best freshman QB in the country today?? (honest question..I haven't a clue). That guy, whoever he is, will likely be at the top of everyones 2015 draft, even though we have no clue what the relative value of that class is. It just has too much fluidity to try to understand. Even in August, you see leagues draft and everyone thinks they know but when you look back on it after a year or two, its 70% upside down.
I remember a guy in 2010 that had stocked the 3.06-3.10 pick in a dynasty. He had no TEs or LBers and drafted Gronk, Graham, JPP, Washington, and Bowman and I remember everyone loking at that saying "Well, Graham is raw but he MIGht do something. There were some general optimisim but obviously these guys had all been passed on 2-3 times in the draft by everyone and now, we just call that guy "Champ".
Who is the best freshman QB in the country today?? (honest question..I haven't a clue). That guy, whoever he is, will likely be at the top of everyones 2015 draft, even though we have no clue what the relative value of that class is. It just has too much fluidity to try to understand. Even in August, you see leagues draft and everyone thinks they know but when you look back on it after a year or two, its 70% upside down.
I remember a guy in 2010 that had stocked the 3.06-3.10 pick in a dynasty. He had no TEs or LBers and drafted Gronk, Graham, JPP, Washington, and Bowman and I remember everyone loking at that saying "Well, Graham is raw but he MIGht do something. There were some general optimisim but obviously these guys had all been passed on 2-3 times in the draft by everyone and now, we just call that guy "Champ".
Concept Coop
Footballguy
The TE class is strong. Also, I am starting to really like Lacy. I like him more than I liked Doug Martin, and nobody would mind getting a Doug Martin caliber player 1.01 this year.
cstu
Footballguy
This is my take as well. Weak at the very top, but just as deep as any other year, and deeper than some. I'm buying 1s at a discount this year from everyone who doesn't want them.
Kleck
Footballguy
I agree. Lacy is being underarted by the dynasty community right now. I think Stepfan Taylor and Montee Ball are too. All three have the size and abilities to play at the next level. Put any of them in a good situation and I think we'll see some decent fantasy numbers from them.
Kleck
Footballguy
Trent, yes. Ingram, I could see happening. I thought Laurence Maroney was a far better RB than Marion Barber.
I think Ball has been criminally under-rated/over-looked. Not flashy, but has the goods to be a bell-cow at the next level.
332 carries for 1730 yards (5.2 ypc), 21 TDs this season after a rough start....a start that could easily be explained by the beat-down he took just before the season started by some thugs.
332 carries for 1730 yards (5.2 ypc), 21 TDs this season after a rough start....a start that could easily be explained by the beat-down he took just before the season started by some thugs.
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lod01
Footballguy
Maroney was far better than Barber as a RB but Barber had the desire and Maroney didn't. He was a beast until he got paid to run. Thats the toughest part when scouting guys.
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EBF
Footballguy
Maybe, but the NFL is different from college and sometimes rewards a different skill set. Another example is Brandon Jacobs having a better NFL career than Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown even though he sat behind them in college. Lacy is no Richardson, but at this point I might take him over Ingram. He looks quite a bit bigger and will probably run faster in his workouts. I think his skills will translate pretty well to the NFL and I could see him being an effective power back. Would be a mild surprise to see him go in the first round, but he's certainly got the talent to justify a second rounder.
Xue
Footballguy
Jacobs had two good seasons in his career, and that was behind a dominant Giants O-line. Williams and Brown suffered devastating injuries that set them back. I'd say it's a push.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Lacy is strong, built like a tree trunk and has good patience to the hole, but he runs with too much lean sometimes and it causes him to be off balance, falling down when anybody makes contact with his knees or lower. He also seems to have only adequate suddenness. His lack of a top gear doesn't concern me, but I'd like to see him be able to shift into 4th gear a little sooner. Give his power to Stepfan Taylor, and you have a legit #1 fantasy pick.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I think he has surprising balance, speed, and quickness for a guy his size and stature. And doesn't everyone go down when you hit their knees or lower?
MAC_32
Footballguy
Crazy, yeah, I think. He has enormous upside, but has a lot that needs worked on in his game too. I prefer these types later in the draft, look for a Wallace, Cruz, or Garcon - don't pay up for a potential DHB, Little, Baldwin, or Quick type.
sporthenry
Footballguy
I think this draft will depend a lot on where these guys go. I'd draft any Packer skill player. If they draft Eifert, a WR, or a RB. Likewise for someone drafted in a Saints or other high octane offense.
But as far as right now, I'd want Lacy or Lattimore with Eifert in the mix somewhere.
But as far as right now, I'd want Lacy or Lattimore with Eifert in the mix somewhere.
BlackMamba24
Footballguy
Eifert that high? was hoping he would fall somewhere between the end of the 1st and early 2nd.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Since I think this draft is much more situation driven than last year's, my board will change post draft, but I have Eifert somewhere around 5-7 right now. Right now I'm looking at picks 8 and something between 9 and 12. Eifert's mentally penciled in spot 8 assuming Geno is not there.
sporthenry
Footballguy
Geno isn't a terrible choice but I just feel he is going to go to a terrible situation and he isn't a Cam Newton type. It might be a reach on Eifert but I'd rather have him than take a gamble on a WR with all the combine numbers but not many route running skills. Many mocks have Eifert going to Green Bay, Chicago, or even saw Denver where he would probably be used immediately. Of course a lot of this is fluid and we'll see what happens with the combine and where ultimately these guys wind up. Like a WR goes to KC, I'm not touching it. St. Louis I'd probably jump on him while not sure I could pull the trigger on a Dolphins WR even with Tanny.
MAC_32
Footballguy
If Geno goes to KC I'm looking at dialing up the WR they pair with him in round 2. And I'm probably grabbing a Fins WR if they take one early.Geno has flaws, every QB in this class does, there is no Luck/RG3 but I think he is the franchise QB in the bunch. Film room junkie, big arm, good decision maker, reads the field well pre and post snap, deadly accurate downfield, big time competitor. Complete package. Just need to refine his footwork, big issue there. Given his coachability I think he'll fix it though.
Cheesedawg
Footballguy
I agree, Ball is going to be a good back in the NFL.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
A TD machine for those in that kind of league.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I'm in the same situation. If Lacy or Eifert(2.0 PPR for TE) land in great situations, I'll gladly take one of them. Otherwise, I think I'll be trying to trade down and grab as many upside guys as I can.
FunkyTeaParty
Footballguy
Will Ball's nearly 1000 touch college career give anyone pause?
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