1st round ROOKIE RB's taken in the last 6 yrs. (1 Viewer)

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

Ok i was thinking about STEWERT and MENDENHALL specifically and thought i dig up some research on the last few years on the rb's taken.

In my mind i see those 2 guys similar to SJAX/LJ types. Workhorses. So i thought i see how the 1st round rb taken fared. I know some faltered due to injury or maybe team makeup...but i was trying to see there sucess rate.

2003

McGahee 6'0 232

L.Johnson 6'1 230

2004

Sjax 6'2 231

C.Perry 6'0 224

K.Jones 6'0 228

2005

Ronnie B 6'0 232

C.Benson 5'11 220

Caddy 5'11 217

2006

R.Bush 6'0 203

Maroney 5'11 220

Addai 5'11 214

2007

AP 6'1 217

Lynch 5'11 215

2008

DMac 6'2 210

Stewert 5'11 235

Mendenhall 5'11 220

Felix 6'0 200

C.Johnson 5'11 197

Looking at this list MOST of the 1st round big backs have had sucess at some point.

In 2003 Mcgahee and Lj both turned out to be nice, both nice sized rb's

In 2004 SJAX is a stud and both KJ and Perry showed promise but injurys hit them pretty hard. But they showed some nice skills

In 2005 Ronnie and Caddy showed top notch talents before injury hit them at some point. Benson never got it to me.

In 2006 Bush isnt a big rb but he doesnt play like the others mentioned either, Maroney is nice but on the wrong team to use his skills and Addai is very good.

In 2007 Both AP and Lynch have nice size and both are bigtime producers.

In 2008 what will this year bring. Both Stewert and Mendenhall have the right size.....but what does this also mean for DMAC FELIX and Chris Johnson.

Any insight on this is appreciated. Im just really thinking on this, maybe too hard but i was wondering and was like i think most bigger 1st round rb's suceed for the most part. And looking at this aside from Benson who is a complete flop and Bush who is LIGHT, most of the other rb's showed nice production unless the injuries hit them.

WhaT do yall think?

 

[UnknownCoach]

I dont see much point in factoring size together with which round a back was selected in. I think being "tall" is serioiusly overrated by NFL scouts. DMac's size is a concern to me but its not real bad. Felix isnt too much undersized considering he's actually shorter and heavier than he's listed as. Chris Johnson is definatey light. Mendenhall's size looks great. Stewart is actually a little too heavy by my standards.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Almost all of the RBs drafted were big backs. The sample is really small on "small" RBs taken in the first round.

That being said, the fact that the RB was taken in the first round is a much bigger indicator of his future success than anything else.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Almost all of the RBs drafted were big backs. The sample is really small on "small" RBs taken in the first round.

That being said, the fact that the RB was taken in the first round is a much bigger indicator of his future success than anything else.

Look at the success of the first back taken compared to the 2nd backs taken, and 3rd backs taken.

2003

McGahee 6'0 232

L.Johnson 6'1 230

2004

Sjax 6'2 231

C.Perry 6'0 224

K.Jones 6'0 228

2005

Ronnie B 6'0 232

C.Benson 5'11 220

Caddy 5'11 217

2006

R.Bush 6'0 203

Maroney 5'11 220

Addai 5'11 214

2007

AP 6'1 217

Lynch 5'11 215

2008

DMac 6'2 210

Stewert 5'11 235

Mendenhall 5'11 220

Felix 6'0 200

C.Johnson 5'11 197

I think it is safe to say that the first back taken over the last six years is better than the 2nd and 3rd backs taken.

 

[twr]

bush has been better than addi, and mcgahee better than johnson?

 

[EBF]

215-235 pounds seems to be ideal depending on height. Typically a RB has to fall somewhere in that range to become a first round NFL draft pick. However, the 2008 RB crop is bizarre because it has a lot of anomalous players who don't perfectly fit the mold of what you look for in a surefire RB prospect.

Darren McFadden - Low BMI.

Ray Rice - Low weight.

Chris Johnson - Low weight and BMI.

Jamaal Charles - Low weight and BMI.

It will be interesting to see who flops and who succeeds. It should offer further clues about which variables are the most important towards NFL success. My hunch is that one of Rice, Stewart, or Mendenhall will become the best RB from the group.

 

[Burning Sensation]

bush has been better than addi, and mcgahee better than johnson?

Bush has not been better than Addai, but Addai was not the 2nd or 3rd RB taken in the draft.Mcgahee and Johnson can be argued either way, bur no matter who you prefer, it is close.

 

[prymetyme25]

215-235 pounds seems to be ideal depending on height. Typically a RB has to fall somewhere in that range to become a first round NFL draft pick. However, the 2008 RB crop is bizarre because it has a lot of anomalous players who don't perfectly fit the mold of what you look for in a surefire RB prospect. Darren McFadden - Low BMI. Ray Rice - Low weight.Chris Johnson - Low weight and BMI.Jamaal Charles - Low weight and BMI. It will be interesting to see who flops and who succeeds. It should offer further clues about which variables are the most important towards NFL success. My hunch is that one of Rice, Stewart, or Mendenhall will become the best RB from the group.

I'll put my money on McFadden, Charles, and Stewart in that order. Something about Stewart just Says he'll have a couple great year but won't last long. Sort of like Jamaal Anderson.

 

[az_prof]

Almost all of the RBs drafted were big backs. The sample is really small on "small" RBs taken in the first round.

That being said, the fact that the RB was taken in the first round is a much bigger indicator of his future success than anything else.

Look at the success of the first back taken compared to the 2nd backs taken, and 3rd backs taken.

2003

McGahee 6'0 232

L.Johnson 6'1 230

2004

Sjax 6'2 231

C.Perry 6'0 224

K.Jones 6'0 228

2005

Ronnie B 6'0 232

C.Benson 5'11 220

Caddy 5'11 217

2006

R.Bush 6'0 203

Maroney 5'11 220

Addai 5'11 214

2007

AP 6'1 217

Lynch 5'11 215

2008

DMac 6'2 210

Stewert 5'11 235

Mendenhall 5'11 220

Felix 6'0 200

C.Johnson 5'11 197

I think it is safe to say that the first back taken over the last six years is better than the 2nd and 3rd backs taken.

The data above does NOT support your conclusion--at least not as universally as you indicate.2003: Do you really think McGahee has had a better career than LJ?

2004: Yes. SJax has been best

2005: yes, Ronnie Brown has been best

2006: I bet you would have a hard time finding a Maroney or Addai owner to trade them for Bush. He is NOT clearly the best back.

2007: AP and Lynch (assuming he doesn't do jail time) are alot closer than people might think. I LOVE AP, but I am worried about his injuries. His style and body build lend themselves to injuries.

Too early to tell who will have the better career.

So, given that 2007 is too early to judge, of the four other years, in TWO the best RB is the first off the board but in the other two he is NOT. so....sounds like a wash. You can't assume from this that DMAc will be best and I would bet that he won't.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

Also seems real ODD for 5 RB's to go in the 1st round now days.

Either all these guys will be used alot or someone is clearly not getting value on there picks.

(and i thought Chris Henry went to high last year...)

 

[cstu]

2006R.Bush 6'0 2032008DMac 6'2 210

At the combine:Bush measured 5-11 3/4, 201 for a BMI of 27.4McFadden measured 6-1 1/4, 211 for a BMI of 27.6

 

[UnknownCoach]

One thing to keep in mind is that the majority of rookies can successfully add a few pounds and a some are literally still growing. Generally, I'd rather a rookie weigh a little light than to be heavy.

Of interest is that of the most noteable rookies, the only two other than Mendenhall I consider haveing ideal size are Choice and Torrain. Smith and Forte, along with Jones, are all only a few pounds light. Rice is short and not quite (but close) to what I consider heavy enough to overcome that if he was going to be a starter - Hart is. No noteable rookie other than Stewart looks heavy. McFadden's height might help his case but like I said, that's overrated.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Almost all of the RBs drafted were big backs. The sample is really small on "small" RBs taken in the first round.

That being said, the fact that the RB was taken in the first round is a much bigger indicator of his future success than anything else.

Look at the success of the first back taken compared to the 2nd backs taken, and 3rd backs taken.

2003

McGahee 6'0 232

L.Johnson 6'1 230

2004

Sjax 6'2 231

C.Perry 6'0 224

K.Jones 6'0 228

2005

Ronnie B 6'0 232

C.Benson 5'11 220

Caddy 5'11 217

2006

R.Bush 6'0 203

Maroney 5'11 220

Addai 5'11 214

2007

AP 6'1 217

Lynch 5'11 215

2008

DMac 6'2 210

Stewert 5'11 235

Mendenhall 5'11 220

Felix 6'0 200

C.Johnson 5'11 197

I think it is safe to say that the first back taken over the last six years is better than the 2nd and 3rd backs taken.

The data above does NOT support your conclusion--at least not as universally as you indicate.2003: Do you really think McGahee has had a better career than LJ?

2004: Yes. SJax has been best

2005: yes, Ronnie Brown has been best

2006: I bet you would have a hard time finding a Maroney or Addai owner to trade them for Bush. He is NOT clearly the best back.

2007: AP and Lynch (assuming he doesn't do jail time) are alot closer than people might think. I LOVE AP, but I am worried about his injuries. His style and body build lend themselves to injuries.

Too early to tell who will have the better career.

So, given that 2007 is too early to judge, of the four other years, in TWO the best RB is the first off the board but in the other two he is NOT. so....sounds like a wash. You can't assume from this that DMAc will be best and I would bet that he won't.

For the 2nd time, Addai was the 4th back taken, i said the 1st pick was better than the 2nd and 3rd. Check who has had the better numbers, Bush, Maroney or Deangelo Williams.You're right though, LJ is probaby a bit better than Mcgahee, but it is really close, and 4 out of 5 is pretty good.

 

[BBRULE]

Reggie Bush Carrer Stats

Att Yd Av Lg TD Rc Yrd Av Lg TD Fmb

312 1146 3.7 22 10 161 1159 7.2 74 4 10

So a total of 473 touches for 2305 Yards. 4.8 yrds/touch. 1 Td/33.7 touches. 1 Fmb/47.3 touches.

Laurence Maroney Career Stats

360 1580 4.4 59 12 26 310 11.9 43 1 1

Totals of 386 touches for 1890 yards. 4.8 yrds/touch. 1 TD/29.6 touches. 1 Fmb/386 touches.

Bush is better than Maroney? You can make an argument sure, but it is in no way clear cut.