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[kremenull]

It's funny how a lot of people are tooting Burton's horn now when just a few months ago (around draft time) nobody was mentioning his name at all. Fickle nature of fantasy owners reacting (to some good camp news) instead of recognizing talent from the beginning. I wonder how many of you guys actually targeted this guy in any drafts. I targeted him at least 4 very early drafts thus far (2 startups and 2 rookie drafts), and landed him in both rookie drafts but no the startups.

You are so AWESOME!!!!

Pretty rare when we get a more masturbatory post even around here. That made Power Monster look like Job.

Nahhhhh...You missed the point. I'm just highlighting the fact how guys are now ranking Burton amongst their top WR rooks all of a sudden when there was barely a mention of this guy in folks' rankings before. That's all. Props to all the savvies who did take this guy before the recent hype.....I'm not a masturbator nor a Hater......I'm a Congratulator.....and a PLAYA!!!!!K.B. and Jordy rule this WR roost......foooooooooool!

 

[zDragon]

Jordy and Nelson.

 

[Burning Sensation]

It's funny how a lot of people are tooting Burton's horn now when just a few months ago (around draft time) nobody was mentioning his name at all. Fickle nature of fantasy owners reacting (to some good camp news) instead of recognizing talent from the beginning. I wonder how many of you guys actually targeted this guy in any drafts. I targeted him at least 4 very early drafts thus far (2 startups and 2 rookie drafts), and landed him in both rookie drafts but no the startups.

You are so AWESOME!!!!

Pretty rare when we get a more masturbatory post even around here. That made Power Monster look like Job.

Nahhhhh...You missed the point. I'm just highlighting the fact how guys are now ranking Burton amongst their top WR rooks all of a sudden when there was barely a mention of this guy in folks' rankings before. That's all. Props to all the savvies who did take this guy before the recent hype.....I'm not a masturbator nor a Hater......I'm a Congratulator.....and a PLAYA!!!!!K.B. and Jordy rule this WR roost......foooooooooool!

If Burton does actually pan out, it wasnt skill that worked out for you, it was luck.

 

[kremenull]

It's funny how a lot of people are tooting Burton's horn now when just a few months ago (around draft time) nobody was mentioning his name at all. Fickle nature of fantasy owners reacting (to some good camp news) instead of recognizing talent from the beginning. I wonder how many of you guys actually targeted this guy in any drafts. I targeted him at least 4 very early drafts thus far (2 startups and 2 rookie drafts), and landed him in both rookie drafts but no the startups.

You are so AWESOME!!!!

Pretty rare when we get a more masturbatory post even around here. That made Power Monster look like Job.

Nahhhhh...You missed the point. I'm just highlighting the fact how guys are now ranking Burton amongst their top WR rooks all of a sudden when there was barely a mention of this guy in folks' rankings before. That's all. Props to all the savvies who did take this guy before the recent hype.....I'm not a masturbator nor a Hater......I'm a Congratulator.....and a PLAYA!!!!!K.B. and Jordy rule this WR roost......foooooooooool!

If Burton does actually pan out, it wasnt skill that worked out for you, it was luck.

I would think my track record for uncovering gems would suggest otherwise.....Don't Hate! If you want to check the resume, check the profile to verify my rankings, draft projections and prospect analysis.....

 

[Burning Sensation]

It's funny how a lot of people are tooting Burton's horn now when just a few months ago (around draft time) nobody was mentioning his name at all. Fickle nature of fantasy owners reacting (to some good camp news) instead of recognizing talent from the beginning. I wonder how many of you guys actually targeted this guy in any drafts. I targeted him at least 4 very early drafts thus far (2 startups and 2 rookie drafts), and landed him in both rookie drafts but no the startups.

You are so AWESOME!!!!

Pretty rare when we get a more masturbatory post even around here. That made Power Monster look like Job.

Nahhhhh...You missed the point. I'm just highlighting the fact how guys are now ranking Burton amongst their top WR rooks all of a sudden when there was barely a mention of this guy in folks' rankings before. That's all. Props to all the savvies who did take this guy before the recent hype.....I'm not a masturbator nor a Hater......I'm a Congratulator.....and a PLAYA!!!!!K.B. and Jordy rule this WR roost......foooooooooool!

If Burton does actually pan out, it wasnt skill that worked out for you, it was luck.

I would think my track record for uncovering gems would suggest otherwise.....Don't Hate! If you want to check the resume, check the profile to verify my rankings, draft projections and prospect analysis.....

There is a 1/1,000,000 chance that i am wrong, and you are truly the most gifted person on this board, or anywhere else when it comes to recognizing rookie talent. However, if it where true, you wouldnt be here patting yourself on the back for something that hasnt even happened yet. So i wont be wastng my time searching your posts for things that you may have beeen right about. Feel free to link some posts of your expertise though, i would love to see them.

 

[kremenull]

It's funny how a lot of people are tooting Burton's horn now when just a few months ago (around draft time) nobody was mentioning his name at all. Fickle nature of fantasy owners reacting (to some good camp news) instead of recognizing talent from the beginning. I wonder how many of you guys actually targeted this guy in any drafts. I targeted him at least 4 very early drafts thus far (2 startups and 2 rookie drafts), and landed him in both rookie drafts but no the startups.

You are so AWESOME!!!!

Pretty rare when we get a more masturbatory post even around here. That made Power Monster look like Job.

Nahhhhh...You missed the point. I'm just highlighting the fact how guys are now ranking Burton amongst their top WR rooks all of a sudden when there was barely a mention of this guy in folks' rankings before. That's all. Props to all the savvies who did take this guy before the recent hype.....I'm not a masturbator nor a Hater......I'm a Congratulator.....and a PLAYA!!!!!K.B. and Jordy rule this WR roost......foooooooooool!

If Burton does actually pan out, it wasnt skill that worked out for you, it was luck.

I would think my track record for uncovering gems would suggest otherwise.....Don't Hate! If you want to check the resume, check the profile to verify my rankings, draft projections and prospect analysis.....

There is a 1/1,000,000 chance that i am wrong, and you are truly the most gifted person on this board, or anywhere else when it comes to recognizing rookie talent. However, if it where true, you wouldnt be here patting yourself on the back for something that hasnt even happened yet. So i wont be wastng my time searching your posts for things that you may have beeen right about. Feel free to link some posts of your expertise though, i would love to see them.

Out of respect for the thread and the FBG forum, I will rest my case right here......I'll be around though, chiming in with my opinions as always

 

[Burning Sensation]

It's funny how a lot of people are tooting Burton's horn now when just a few months ago (around draft time) nobody was mentioning his name at all. Fickle nature of fantasy owners reacting (to some good camp news) instead of recognizing talent from the beginning. I wonder how many of you guys actually targeted this guy in any drafts. I targeted him at least 4 very early drafts thus far (2 startups and 2 rookie drafts), and landed him in both rookie drafts but no the startups.

You are so AWESOME!!!!

Pretty rare when we get a more masturbatory post even around here. That made Power Monster look like Job.

Nahhhhh...You missed the point. I'm just highlighting the fact how guys are now ranking Burton amongst their top WR rooks all of a sudden when there was barely a mention of this guy in folks' rankings before. That's all. Props to all the savvies who did take this guy before the recent hype.....I'm not a masturbator nor a Hater......I'm a Congratulator.....and a PLAYA!!!!!K.B. and Jordy rule this WR roost......foooooooooool!

If Burton does actually pan out, it wasnt skill that worked out for you, it was luck.

I would think my track record for uncovering gems would suggest otherwise.....Don't Hate! If you want to check the resume, check the profile to verify my rankings, draft projections and prospect analysis.....

There is a 1/1,000,000 chance that i am wrong, and you are truly the most gifted person on this board, or anywhere else when it comes to recognizing rookie talent. However, if it where true, you wouldnt be here patting yourself on the back for something that hasnt even happened yet. So i wont be wastng my time searching your posts for things that you may have beeen right about. Feel free to link some posts of your expertise though, i would love to see them.

Out of respect for the thread and the FBG forum, I will rest my case right here......I'll be around though, chiming in with my opinions as always

Keep up the good work!!!

 

[doubletrouble]

You are so AWESOME!!!!

 

[kaa]

So the answer that's emerging is..."Who knows?" Pick the guy you like and want to follow. He has as much chance as the next guy at putting up numbers.

There really wouldn't be a point to this site, research, nor its forums if we all "knew" would there...

Well some things are easier to tell than others. Rookie receivers are notoriously the most difficult player position to forecast in fantasy football. It's even moreso this year where nobody particularly stands out from either a skills or opportunity standpoint.

Probably the key edge I have in my fantasy drafts over the years is the ability to spot breakout WRs. I'm flipping through the pages of my franchise over the years on MFL.com and here are notable breakouts and rookies I've rostered over the years:2007: Dwayne Bowe and James Jones.2006: Marques Colston.2005: Joey Galloway.2004: Michael Clayton.But my secret apparently continues to go unknown.

 

[moderated]

It's funny how a lot of people are tooting Burton's horn now when just a few months ago (around draft time) nobody was mentioning his name at all. Fickle nature of fantasy owners reacting (to some good camp news) instead of recognizing talent from the beginning. I wonder how many of you guys actually targeted this guy in any drafts. I targeted him at least 4 very early drafts thus far (2 startups and 2 rookie drafts), and landed him in both rookie drafts but no the startups.Avery will be a bust, what a big reach by the Rams with that pick. Luckily for them, they got Burton at a bargain who will be terrific. They should have selected D.Thomas or DeSean Jack, and Burton......

I drafted him in 6 rookie drafts and 2 start ups...

Enjoy cutting the bum in those 8 leagues down the road.

 

[jeter23]

It's funny how a lot of people are tooting Burton's horn now when just a few months ago (around draft time) nobody was mentioning his name at all. Fickle nature of fantasy owners reacting (to some good camp news) instead of recognizing talent from the beginning. I wonder how many of you guys actually targeted this guy in any drafts. I targeted him at least 4 very early drafts thus far (2 startups and 2 rookie drafts), and landed him in both rookie drafts but no the startups.Avery will be a bust, what a big reach by the Rams with that pick. Luckily for them, they got Burton at a bargain who will be terrific. They should have selected D.Thomas or DeSean Jack, and Burton......

I drafted him in 6 rookie drafts and 2 start ups...

Enjoy cutting the bum in those 8 leagues down the road.

A definite possibility. I am no scout and don't claim to be, but I am a UK If he does not pan out, not a big deal. I spent 3rd rounders or WW pickups on him.

 

[EBF]

Some good Eddie Royal hype:

Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan said WR Eddie Royal is doing a very good job during training camp. "He has a lot of talent, a lot of confidence," Shanahan said. "He's got a burning desire to make the starting lineup. He is very impressive." He noted Royal keeps making plays during practice and when players do that it usually carries over to the game.

"It doesn't take you long to figure out he's going to be a top-notch receiver as well as an excellent returner," Shanahan said. Shanny added that Royal will still have a learning curve, but he's starting to pick up buzz as an interesting dynasty prospect.

 

[BigTex]

I just don't see how D Tomas is ranked #1 in this class?

against top compo last year Michigan, 7 catches for 65 yds, Ohio State 4 catches for 77 yds, Boston College 4 catches for 34 yds.

These numbers don't excite me and that's why I guess he dropped so far down and went into the 2nd round....

How many WR went in the first round?

 

[kaa]

Yes another ranking post... I have pretty much decided that Hardy is the defenative #1 and I am leaning towards making Avery my defenative #2... I am personally ranking based on dynasty value and opportunity as the situation he is landing being fast and has a QB that can throw far helps... Holt is getting old and speed kills... He is most likely I starter this year out of the gate... Sweed & Kelley are bigger guys that have more potential in the red zone but will that make up for the targets? Bennett is in Chicago but even though there is a dry well he is the only one there with a bucket...

Am I out of my mind ranking the WR based on what I think future potential is as follows?

Hardy
Avery
Sweed
Kelley
Bennett

Only one of these are on my list to draft. Look at my list of sleeper WRs I nailed over the past 4 years and tell me if you notice a pattern. Only 1 of these fit the pattern.

 

[doubletrouble]

How many WR went in the first round?

How many went in the 2nd?

 

[Burning Sensation]

Yes another ranking post... I have pretty much decided that Hardy is the defenative #1 and I am leaning towards making Avery my defenative #2... I am personally ranking based on dynasty value and opportunity as the situation he is landing being fast and has a QB that can throw far helps... Holt is getting old and speed kills... He is most likely I starter this year out of the gate... Sweed & Kelley are bigger guys that have more potential in the red zone but will that make up for the targets? Bennett is in Chicago but even though there is a dry well he is the only one there with a bucket...

Am I out of my mind ranking the WR based on what I think future potential is as follows?

Hardy
Avery
Sweed
Kelley
Bennett

Only one of these are on my list to draft. Look at my list of sleeper WRs I nailed over the past 4 years and tell me if you notice a pattern. Only 1 of these fit the pattern.

Where would i find your list of sleepers from the past four years?

 

[bcr8f]

Jordy Nelson - Second WR drafted. Comes with the Ted Thompson seal of approval. Seems like a safe bet to become a

Actually he was the 3rd WR drafted, behind Avery and Thomas. Either way though, do you think Nelson is talented enough to overcome being the 4th WR on the Packers depth chart? I dont see him being good enough to leapfrog Driver, Jennings or JJones in the near future.

Right now he's #5 and having trouble beating the jam. They'll probably move him around and put him in the slot to free him up.

 

[kaa]

Yes another ranking post... I have pretty much decided that Hardy is the defenative #1 and I am leaning towards making Avery my defenative #2... I am personally ranking based on dynasty value and opportunity as the situation he is landing being fast and has a QB that can throw far helps... Holt is getting old and speed kills... He is most likely I starter this year out of the gate... Sweed & Kelley are bigger guys that have more potential in the red zone but will that make up for the targets? Bennett is in Chicago but even though there is a dry well he is the only one there with a bucket...

Am I out of my mind ranking the WR based on what I think future potential is as follows?

Hardy
Avery
Sweed
Kelley
Bennett

Only one of these are on my list to draft. Look at my list of sleeper WRs I nailed over the past 4 years and tell me if you notice a pattern. Only 1 of these fit the pattern.

Where would i find your list of sleepers from the past four years?

7 posts above this one.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Yes another ranking post... I have pretty much decided that Hardy is the defenative #1 and I am leaning towards making Avery my defenative #2... I am personally ranking based on dynasty value and opportunity as the situation he is landing being fast and has a QB that can throw far helps... Holt is getting old and speed kills... He is most likely I starter this year out of the gate... Sweed & Kelley are bigger guys that have more potential in the red zone but will that make up for the targets? Bennett is in Chicago but even though there is a dry well he is the only one there with a bucket...

Am I out of my mind ranking the WR based on what I think future potential is as follows?

Hardy
Avery
Sweed
Kelley
Bennett

Only one of these are on my list to draft. Look at my list of sleeper WRs I nailed over the past 4 years and tell me if you notice a pattern. Only 1 of these fit the pattern.

Where would i find your list of sleepers from the past four years?

7 posts above this one.

This one?

2007: Dwayne Bowe and James Jones.

2006: Marques Colston.

2005: Joey Galloway.

2004: Michael Clayton

I have a few problems here other than the fact you made this list after the fact.To name a couple, Galloway wasnt a sleeper, and Clayton sucks. Did you draft Colston in a rookie draft, or pick him up after the rookie draft when everyone and their mother did as well. Drafting Bowe last year wasnt really a work of genius, most people had him as a top 3 rookie WR. James Jones, really?

 

[kaa]

Yes another ranking post... I have pretty much decided that Hardy is the defenative #1 and I am leaning towards making Avery my defenative #2... I am personally ranking based on dynasty value and opportunity as the situation he is landing being fast and has a QB that can throw far helps... Holt is getting old and speed kills... He is most likely I starter this year out of the gate... Sweed & Kelley are bigger guys that have more potential in the red zone but will that make up for the targets? Bennett is in Chicago but even though there is a dry well he is the only one there with a bucket...

Am I out of my mind ranking the WR based on what I think future potential is as follows?

Hardy
Avery
Sweed
Kelley
Bennett

Only one of these are on my list to draft. Look at my list of sleeper WRs I nailed over the past 4 years and tell me if you notice a pattern. Only 1 of these fit the pattern.

Where would i find your list of sleepers from the past four years?

7 posts above this one.

This one?

2007: Dwayne Bowe and James Jones.

2006: Marques Colston.

2005: Joey Galloway.

2004: Michael Clayton

I have a few problems here other than the fact you made this list after the fact.To name a couple, Galloway wasnt a sleeper, and Clayton sucks. Did you draft Colston in a rookie draft, or pick him up after the rookie draft when everyone and their mother did as well. Drafting Bowe last year wasnt really a work of genius, most people had him as a top 3 rookie WR. James Jones, really?

Actually Galloway was a huge sleeper in 2005. He had not had 1000 yards receiving since 1998. Clayton in 2004 was a rookie that had a huge season. Colston was huge as a rookie. Yeah James Jones wasn't as huge as the others - you can remove him if you wish.But let me ask again, what do these guys have in common? Why did I pick them? There's one of those 5 in the 2008 list that sticks out like a sore thumb because he also has this in common.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Yes another ranking post... I have pretty much decided that Hardy is the defenative #1 and I am leaning towards making Avery my defenative #2... I am personally ranking based on dynasty value and opportunity as the situation he is landing being fast and has a QB that can throw far helps... Holt is getting old and speed kills... He is most likely I starter this year out of the gate... Sweed & Kelley are bigger guys that have more potential in the red zone but will that make up for the targets? Bennett is in Chicago but even though there is a dry well he is the only one there with a bucket...

Am I out of my mind ranking the WR based on what I think future potential is as follows?

Hardy
Avery
Sweed
Kelley
Bennett

Only one of these are on my list to draft. Look at my list of sleeper WRs I nailed over the past 4 years and tell me if you notice a pattern. Only 1 of these fit the pattern.

Where would i find your list of sleepers from the past four years?

7 posts above this one.

This one?

2007: Dwayne Bowe and James Jones.

2006: Marques Colston.

2005: Joey Galloway.

2004: Michael Clayton

I have a few problems here other than the fact you made this list after the fact.To name a couple, Galloway wasnt a sleeper, and Clayton sucks. Did you draft Colston in a rookie draft, or pick him up after the rookie draft when everyone and their mother did as well. Drafting Bowe last year wasnt really a work of genius, most people had him as a top 3 rookie WR. James Jones, really?

Actually Galloway was a huge sleeper in 2005. He had not had 1000 yards receiving since 1998. Clayton in 2004 was a rookie that had a huge season. Colston was huge as a rookie. Yeah James Jones wasn't as huge as the others - you can remove him if you wish.But let me ask again, what do these guys have in common? Why did I pick them? There's one of those 5 in the 2008 list that sticks out like a sore thumb because he also has this in common.

They all have an "O" in their last name? If not that, i give up, tell me.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Apparently it won't be Dexter Jackson.

 

[T Bell]

Yes another ranking post... I have pretty much decided that Hardy is the defenative #1 and I am leaning towards making Avery my defenative #2... I am personally ranking based on dynasty value and opportunity as the situation he is landing being fast and has a QB that can throw far helps... Holt is getting old and speed kills... He is most likely I starter this year out of the gate... Sweed & Kelley are bigger guys that have more potential in the red zone but will that make up for the targets? Bennett is in Chicago but even though there is a dry well he is the only one there with a bucket...

Am I out of my mind ranking the WR based on what I think future potential is as follows?

Hardy
Avery
Sweed
Kelley
Bennett

Only one of these are on my list to draft. Look at my list of sleeper WRs I nailed over the past 4 years and tell me if you notice a pattern. Only 1 of these fit the pattern.

Where would i find your list of sleepers from the past four years?

7 posts above this one.

This one?

2007: Dwayne Bowe and James Jones.

2006: Marques Colston.

2005: Joey Galloway.

2004: Michael Clayton

I have a few problems here other than the fact you made this list after the fact.To name a couple, Galloway wasnt a sleeper, and Clayton sucks. Did you draft Colston in a rookie draft, or pick him up after the rookie draft when everyone and their mother did as well. Drafting Bowe last year wasnt really a work of genius, most people had him as a top 3 rookie WR. James Jones, really?

Actually Galloway was a huge sleeper in 2005. He had not had 1000 yards receiving since 1998. Clayton in 2004 was a rookie that had a huge season. Colston was huge as a rookie. Yeah James Jones wasn't as huge as the others - you can remove him if you wish.But let me ask again, what do these guys have in common? Why did I pick them? There's one of those 5 in the 2008 list that sticks out like a sore thumb because he also has this in common.

They all have an "O" in their last name? If not that, i give up, tell me.

I for one think kaa's Socratic method schtick on his WR-picking brilliance is hilarious.

 

[Bl Deep]

It's funny how a lot of people are tooting Burton's horn now when just a few months ago (around draft time) nobody was mentioning his name at all. Fickle nature of fantasy owners reacting (to some good camp news) instead of recognizing talent from the beginning. I wonder how many of you guys actually targeted this guy in any drafts. I targeted him at least 4 very early drafts thus far (2 startups and 2 rookie drafts), and landed him in both rookie drafts but no the startups.Avery will be a bust, what a big reach by the Rams with that pick. Luckily for them, they got Burton at a bargain who will be terrific. They should have selected D.Thomas or DeSean Jack, and Burton......

O'Doyle RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Burning Sensation]

Jordy and Nelson.

Some not so good Nelson hype, per Rotoworld:

Packers rookie Jordy Nelson may be no better than the No. 5 receiver right now.Nelson has impressed with his consistency, fundamentals, and grasp of the offense, but he's been having trouble beating the jam at the line of scrimmage. Nelson is expected to leapfrog Ruvell Martin by Week 1, but it's no sure thing. James Jones looks to have the third receiver spot locked up for the foreseeable future.

 

[beto]

I'm guessing Bennett for kaa's answer.

Are all these guys hurt?

Hardy - hammy

Thomas - hammy

Sweed - hammy, eyes

Avery - stress fracture of pelvic bone

Manningham - strained quad

DeSean Jackson - hammy

Kelly - knee

Doucet - hammy

 

[zadok]

Jackson is not hurt. He only missed last Monday and Tuesdays practices.

 

[Rodeojones]

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