2004/05 USC- Overrated? (1 Viewer)

[jeter23]

Thinking about how dominant the Trojan teams were a few years ago, it is somewhat surprising to see where the team members, and even coaches that were involved are now.

QB Matt Leinart- has struggled as a starter in Arizona and after being hurt, it seems that some are ready to give up on him as a star.

RB Reggie Bush- one of the most hyped players ever and he has not lived up to the hype. Like Leinart some are giving up on him, it is already being assumed that he can not be an effective every down back.

RB LenDale White- by draft day, his stock had fallen already. He has been a decent starter for the Titans, but was much more effective as a part of a RBBC.

WR Dwayne Jarrett- he is obviously being called a bust and I don't think it is too early.

OC Norm Chow- as an outsider, I felt like he had done a good job for the Titans, but evidently not good enough as he got canned and is now at UCLA in the same position.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Don't forget from the 2003 team, BMW.

 

[EBF]

I don't think they were overrated at all. They had a sick collection of talent.

USC players drafted since 2004:

2007

Dwayne Jarrett Panthers WR

Steve Smith Giants WR

Ryan Kalil Panthers C

Dallas Sartz Redskins LB

Oscar Lua Patriots LB

2006

Reggie Bush Saints RB

Matt Leinart Cardinals QB

Winston Justice Eagles T

Taitusi (Deuce) Lutui Cardinals G

LenDale White Titans RB

Frostee Rucker Bengals DE

Dominique Byrd Rams TE

Darnell Bing Raiders DB

David Kirtman Seahawks RB

LaJuan Ramsey Eagles DT

Fred Matua Lions G

2005s

Manuel Wright Dolphins DT

2005

Mike Williams Lions WR

Mike Patterson Eagles DT

Shaun Cody Lions DT

Lofa Tatupu Seahawks LB

Matt Cassel Patriots QB

2004

Kenechi Udeze Vikings DE

Jacob Rogers Cowboys T

Keary Colbert Panthers WR

Will Poole Dolphins DB

That's 26 guys in 4 drafts. Not bad at all. I doubt any other school in the NCAA can match that over the same stretch of time.

 

[redman]

Why would players' NFL performance on separate teams be a more important criteria in determining the quality of a college team?

 

[awesomeness]

Why would players' NFL performance on separate teams be a more important criteria in determining the quality of a college team?

exactly what i was thinking.

 

[jeter23]

Why would players' NFL performance on separate teams be a more important criteria in determining the quality of a college team?

Sorry, I was not clear. I think they were one of the great college teams I have ever seen, but it does seem that the skill players at least were overrated, as NFL prospects.

 

[EBF]

Why would players' NFL performance on separate teams be a more important criteria in determining the quality of a college team?

Sorry, I was not clear. I think they were one of the great college teams I have ever seen, but it does seem that the skill players at least were overrated, as NFL prospects.

It's a bit premature to judge them. Some of these guys have only been in the league for a season or two. That said, the talent doesn't look as good as Miami's during the Ken Dorsey era, but it still puts most schools to shame.

 

[Rorschach]

I don't think they were overrated at all. They had a sick collection of talent. USC players drafted since 2004:2007Dwayne Jarrett Panthers WRSteve Smith Giants WRRyan Kalil Panthers CDallas Sartz Redskins LBOscar Lua Patriots LB2006 Reggie Bush Saints RBMatt Leinart Cardinals QBWinston Justice Eagles TTaitusi (Deuce) Lutui Cardinals GLenDale White Titans RBFrostee Rucker Bengals DEDominique Byrd Rams TEDarnell Bing Raiders DBDavid Kirtman Seahawks RBLaJuan Ramsey Eagles DTFred Matua Lions G2005sManuel Wright Dolphins DT2005Mike Williams Lions WRMike Patterson Eagles DTShaun Cody Lions DTLofa Tatupu Seahawks LBMatt Cassel Patriots QB2004Kenechi Udeze Vikings DEJacob Rogers Cowboys TKeary Colbert Panthers WRWill Poole Dolphins DBThat's 26 guys in 4 drafts. Not bad at all. I doubt any other school in the NCAA can match that over the same stretch of time.

Pretty sure tOSU can but don't have the numbers and am too lazy to look it up.

 

[Rorschach]

2007:

Ted Ginn Jr.

Anthony Gonzalez

Quinn Pitcock

Antonio Pittman

Jay Richardson

Roy Hall

Troy Smith

Doug Datish

2006:

Aj Hawk

Donte Whitner

Bobby Carpenter

Santonio Holmes

Nick Mangold

Ashton Youboty

Anthony Schlegel

Nate Salley

Rob Sims

2005:

Mike Nugent

Dustin fox

Maurice Clarett

2004:

Will Smith

Chris Gamble

Mike Jenkins

Ben Hartsock

Tim Anderson

BJ Sander

Darrion Scott

Alex Stepanovich

Will Allen

Craig Krenzal

Drew Carter

Ryan Reynolds

Shane Olivea

Adrien Clarke

35 total players

 

[Weiner Dog]

2007:Ted Ginn Jr.Anthony GonzalezQuinn PitcockAntonio PittmanJay RichardsonRoy HallTroy SmithDoug Datish2006:Aj HawkDonte WhitnerBobby CarpenterSantonio HolmesNick MangoldAshton YoubotyAnthony SchlegelNate SalleyRob Sims2005:Mike NugentDustin foxMaurice Clarett2004:Will SmithChris GambleMike JenkinsBen HartsockTim AndersonBJ SanderDarrion ScottAlex StepanovichWill AllenCraig KrenzalDrew CarterRyan ReynoldsShane OliveaAdrien Clarke35 total players

From 2000-2007, the Bucks placed 59 players into the NFL.

 

[phthalatemagic]

2007:Ted Ginn Jr.Anthony GonzalezQuinn PitcockAntonio PittmanJay RichardsonRoy HallTroy SmithDoug Datish2006:Aj HawkDonte WhitnerBobby CarpenterSantonio HolmesNick MangoldAshton YoubotyAnthony SchlegelNate SalleyRob Sims2005:Mike NugentDustin foxMaurice Clarett2004:Will SmithChris GambleMike JenkinsBen HartsockTim AndersonBJ SanderDarrion ScottAlex StepanovichWill AllenCraig KrenzalDrew CarterRyan ReynoldsShane OliveaAdrien Clarke35 total players

If only the SEC didn't exist...

 

[travdogg]

Pete Carroll deserves some credit for getting the best out of all those guys. When he was in the NFL I always thought he was an underrated coach.