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2006 Consensus QB Rankings (1 Viewer)

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Please post your 2006 QB rankings here. Assume standard scoring, redraft. This is not a thread to criticize or comment on other people's rankings. We will simply calculate the average rankings based on everybody's list to get something close to what an ADP would be if we had to draft in the next few days or weeks.

Several things are still unsettled like the NFL draft, free agents, coaching changes, etc. You should make your rankings based on all info you have available today, as if your FFL draft was tomorrow.

We'll start a similar thread for Ds and Ks later.

RB consensus here

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=219811

WR consensus here

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=225784

TE consensus here

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=225841

LB consensus here

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=226236

FBGs do their consensus rankings after the NFL draft and I don't want to wait until late April to get a rough idea consensus rankings at key positions.

Here is my QB list

1 Peyton Manning

2 Donovan McNabb

3 Tom Brady

4 Matt Hasselbeck

5 Marc Bulger

6 Carson Palmer

7 Eli Manning

8 Ben Roethlisberger

9 Drew Brees

10 Byron Leftwich

11 Michael Vick

12 Jake Plummer

13 Jake Delhomme

14 Trent Green

15 Kerry Collins

16 Kurt Warner

17 Drew Bledsoe

18 Brett Favre

19 Brad Johnson

20 Daunte Culpepper

My rankings updated 1/19/2006

 
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I think Kerry Collins, who is probably done in Oakland, is too high; and Kurt Warner, who will probably be resigned in Arizona, is too low.

 
My list1 Carson Palmer2 Peyton Manning3 Drew Brees4 Tom Brady5 Eli Manning6 Matt Hasselbeck7 Marc Bulger8 Kurt Warner (Green will be beack = lots of passing)9 Mark Brunell10 Donovan McNabb (no more TO to throw to)11 Michael Vick12 Jake Plummer13 Jake Delhomme14 Ben Roethlisberger15 Trent Green (Depends on Vermeill's situation)16 Billy Volek (Looks like he'll be a starter somewhere else)17 Byron Leftwich18 Drew Bledsoe19 Chris Simms (I see him throwing 20+ TDs next year)20 Charlie Frye (I see him throwing 20+ TDs next year, plus rushing yards)IMO:- Collins will not be a starter in 2006 - he will be a backup- Boller has not proved himself to be a top 20 yet - he needs more than 2-3 solid games- Culpepper is a huge risk next year with his injury and no more Moss- Wherever TO goes, that QB immediatley jumps up 5-15 spots in the rankings- McNair is probably 21 in my rankings- Favre will retire

 
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14 Daunte Culpepper
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I expect this will be the best offseason QB debate.2004: 4,418 yards passing, 37 passing TDs, 11 INTs in 16 games

2005: 1,564 yards passing, 6 passing TDs, 12 INTs in 6+ games

2005 prorated: 4,171 yards, 16 TDs, 32 INTs

 
14 Daunte Culpepper
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I expect this will be the best offseason QB debate.2004: 4,418 yards passing, 37 passing TDs, 11 INTs in 16 games

2005: 1,564 yards passing, 6 passing TDs, 12 INTs in 6+ games

2005 prorated: 4,171 yards, 16 TDs, 32 INTs
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Last I heard, there were major ??? about when C-Pep would even be able to play. There were articles debating whether the severity of his injury would cause him to miss 12-18 months.No matter what, I am not so sure he will be 100% by opening day.

 
14 Daunte Culpepper
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I expect this will be the best offseason QB debate.2004: 4,418 yards passing, 37 passing TDs, 11 INTs in 16 games

2005: 1,564 yards passing, 6 passing TDs, 12 INTs in 6+ games

2005 prorated: 4,171 yards, 16 TDs, 32 INTs
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Last I heard, there were major ??? about when C-Pep would even be able to play. There were articles debating whether the severity of his injury would cause him to miss 12-18 months.No matter what, I am not so sure he will be 100% by opening day.
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I'd say that the two biggest fantasy questions for Daunte are:1. Health, obviously his production will depend on how much he plays during the season.

2. The offensive line

If the Vikings fix the offensive line over the offseason and Culpepper plays all 16 games, he'll produce at a high level even if he is throwing a lot of INTs. There is a lot of talent at WR for the Vikings, the QBs just need the time to throw it downfield. This season the receivers didn't produce much because they QBs never had the time to get them the ball and when they did, it was split between about 6 different receivers.

A healthy Culpepper and an improved offensive line will make him a top 10 QB next year.

 
As an owner of both Hasselbeck and Bulger, there's no way, if I had to chose, I'd take Hasselbeck over Bulger. Absolutely no way.

 
As an owner of both Hasselbeck and Bulger, there's no way, if I had to chose, I'd take Hasselbeck over Bulger. Absolutely no way.
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I am also an owner of both. Bulger is better when he plays, but he misses more games than Hasselbeck to injury. For 2006, add the return to health of D-Jax, and for Bulger, coaching change possible resulting in more emphasis on the running game? That's enough to make the balance tip a little in favor of Hasselbeck.Please post your 2006 rankings! :)

 
I think Kerry Collins, who is probably done in Oakland, is too high; and Kurt Warner, who will probably be resigned in Arizona, is too low.
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If Collins does not start in Oakland, he will start somewhere. He is a decent NFL QB.
 
I think Kerry Collins, who is probably done in Oakland, is too high; and Kurt Warner, who will probably be resigned in Arizona, is too low.
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If Collins does not start in Oakland, he will start somewhere. He is a decent NFL QB.
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IMO, Collins days as a starter are over. I think he will be now be a placed in the "veteran backup" role. He might get a chance to compete for a starting job, but I think his days as the clear cut number 1 QB on a team are over.
 
I think Kerry Collins, who is probably done in Oakland, is too high; and Kurt Warner, who will probably be resigned in Arizona, is too low.
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If Collins does not start in Oakland, he will start somewhere. He is a decent NFL QB.
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IMO, Collins days as a starter are over. I think he will be now be a placed in the "veteran backup" role. He might get a chance to compete for a starting job, but I think his days as the clear cut number 1 QB on a team are over.
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There's all ready been talk of Collins starting for the Jets next year, so it seems to me that there are teams still willing to bring him in as a starter or placeholder until a rookie/youngster is ready.
 
Here's my quick (and imperfect) top 20:1 Peyton Manning, Ind2 Carson Palmer, Cin3 Donovan McNabb, Phi4 Tom Brady, NE5 Marc Bulger, Stl6 Matt Hasselbeck, Sea7 Eli Manning, NYG8 Byron Leftwich, Jac9 Drew Brees, SD10 Jake Plummer, Den11 Ben Roethlisberger, Pit12 Jake Delhomme, Car13 Michael Vick, Atl14 Trent Green, KC15 Brett Favre, GB16 Drew Bledsoe, Dal17 Kurt Warner, Ari18 Steve McNair, Ten/??19 Kyle Boller, Bal20 David Carr, Hou

 
1 Peyton Manning2 Carson Palmer3 Eli Manning4 Tom Brady5 Donovan McNabb6 Ben Roethlisberger7 Matt Hasselbeck8 Marc Bulger9 Daunte Culpepper10 Byron Leftwich11 Michael Vick12 Jake Plummer13 Jake Delhomme14 Drew Brees15 Trent Green16 Steve McNair17 Kurt Warner18 Drew Bledsoe19 JP Losman20 Charlie Frye

 
IMO:

- Collins will not be a starter in 2006 - he will be a backup

- Boller has not proved himself to be a top 20 yet - he needs more than 2-3 solid games

- Culpepper is a huge risk next year with his injury and no more Moss

- Wherever TO goes, that QB immediatley jumps up 5-15 spots in the rankings

- McNair is probably 21 in my rankings

- Favre will retire
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Agreed on Collins, but he could find himself tutoring someone and starting 8-12 games.Boller just missd my top 20

Agreed on Culpepper, but a Collins/Cpep combo might work depending on byes.

TO - :yes:

McNair will start somewhere

WTF knows on Favre?

I ranked Ben higher than most here, I suppose it depends on your scoring, but he's top 8 in PPG this year in mine. A change at RB and experience moves him up.

 
Here is the QB consensus based on rankings by gbill2004, LHUCKS, Bob Henry, -OZ-, Yahoo, and myself. Feel free to post your rankings and we can update the consensus.Obviously this list breaks down towards the bottom, but I think the top 15 are pretty solid.1 Peyton Manning2 Carson Palmer3 Tom Brady4 Donovan McNabb5 Matt Hasselbeck6 Eli Manning7 Marc Bulger8 Drew Brees9 Ben Roethlisberger10 Michael Vick11 Byron Leftwich12 Jake Plummer13 Trent Green14 Jake Delhomme15 Drew Bledsoe16 Kurt Warner17 Daunte Culpepper18 Brett Favre19 Mark Brunell20 Steve McNair21 Kyle Boller22 Charlie Frye23 Billy Volek24 Kerry Collins25 Chris Simms26 J.P. Losman27 David Carr

 
I'm baffled by this. Every WR thread has both Boldin & Fitzgerald top 10, often top 5. How is it that the AZ QB is never mentioned in the top QBs? That just doesn't make any sense at all. Even if we don't know for sure who AZ's QB will be, can we at least get "AZ QB" in the top 10. Top 5 is probably more realistic. I know about Warner's injury risk. Draft McCown as well and start whichever one is playing. The bottom line is that AZ QB has a good shot to finish top 5 wether it's Warner, McCown or a QBBC.

 
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I cannot believe that people have Bulger so low. Before he got hurt he was running stride for stride with Palmer for the top scoring FF QB in the league.I know Martz is gone, but their talent is still where it is and I doubt they're just going to ignore the fact that they have a top QB and 3 big play WR's.

 
Here's my stab at it.1 Peyton Manning, Ind2 Carson Palmer, Cin3 Tom Brady, NE4 Donovan McNabb, Phi (Eric Moulds or Antonio Bryant?)5 Marc Bulger, Stl (depends on coach scheme and health, of course)6 Matt Hasselbeck, Sea (fewer drops this year, weren't they?)7 Kurt Warner, Ari (Boldin, Fitz, no running game - didn't he win an MVP?)8 Eli Manning, NYG 9 Trent Green, KC (if Willie Roaf / OL is healthy - Gonzo makes this engine go)10 Drew Brees, SD (assumes injury is fine by August)11 Jake Delhomme, Car (needs more than just Steve Smith)12 Jake Plummer, Den (not enough production)13 Byron Leftwich, Jac (WR corps one year older - Wilford / Matt Jones)14 Ben Roethlisberger, Pit (similar to Plummer - but not enough attempts)15 Michael Vick, Atl (needs a #1 WR and to stop throwing it up for grabs)16 Brett Favre, GB (IF he returns)17 Mark Brunell, Wash (up and down season in '05)18 Drew Bledsoe, Dal (up and down season in '05)19 Steve McNair, Ten/??20 David Carr, Hou21 Rex Grossman, Chi22 Chris Simms, TB23 Brad Johnson, Min (likely half a season until Culpepper returns)24 Charlie Frye, Cle25 Kyle Boller, Bal25Side note - I put Kerry Collins in the Top 15 if he goes to Miami. Good fit. Probably at #11.

 
I'm baffled by this. Every WR thread has both Boldin & Fitzgerald top 10, often top 5. How is it that the AZ QB is never mentioned in the top QBs? That just doesn't make any sense at all. Even if we don't know for sure who AZ's QB will be, can we at least get "AZ QB" in the top 10. Top 5 is probably more realistic.

I know about Warner's injury risk. Draft McCown as well and start whichever one is playing. The bottom line is that AZ QB has a good shot to finish top 5 wether it's Warner, McCown or a QBBC.
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Because the question is where would you draft QBs if you had your draft tomorrow. I agree the Cards QB will be valuable, if as of now we don't know who it will be, so I would not rank Warner top 5 with all the current uncertainty. And the Cards will probably have a better RB next year. Plus D Green said he wants to run more and throw less in 2006. These things knock down the Cards QB value a little.

 
Based on the recent developments:Brees' injury does not affect where I rank him. I assume he will be fine for preseason.I am knocking down E Manning 2 spots. I was already higher than consensus at #5. I now have him equal to consensus at #7. Hasselbeck and Bulger move above him.Jeff_Eaglz: nice call on Brad Johnson. I think Culpepper won't be back. I am moving Boller out of my top 20, and Brad Johnson is my QB20.Based on these changes and adding Jeff_Eaglz's rankings, there is the new consensus:1 Peyton Manning2 Carson Palmer3 Tom Brady4 Donovan McNabb5 Matt Hasselbeck6 Marc Bulger7 Eli Manning8 Drew Brees9 Ben Roethlisberger10 Michael Vick11 Byron Leftwich12 Jake Plummer13 Trent Green14 Jake Delhomme15 Kurt Warner16 Drew Bledsoe17 Daunte Culpepper18 Brett Favre19 Mark Brunell20 Steve McNair21 Charlie Frye22 David Carr23 Chris Simms24 Brad Johnson25 Kyle Boller26 Billy Volek27 Kerry Collins28 Rex Grossman29 J.P. Losman

 
I ranked Ben higher than most here, I suppose it depends on your scoring, but he's top 8 in PPG this year in mine. A change at RB and experience moves him up.
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Not many people notice that, but he's right around that high on a PPG basis in all of my leagues too.
 
I'm baffled by this. Every WR thread has both Boldin & Fitzgerald top 10, often top 5. How is it that the AZ QB is never mentioned in the top QBs? That just doesn't make any sense at all. Even if we don't know for sure who AZ's QB will be, can we at least get "AZ QB" in the top 10. Top 5 is probably more realistic.
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Here's a twist. Fitz and Boldin finished 2nd and 7th among WR's this year, yet Zona had no QB ranked better than 23rd.
 
I'm baffled by this. Every WR thread has both Boldin & Fitzgerald top 10, often top 5. How is it that the AZ QB is never mentioned in the top QBs? That just doesn't make any sense at all. Even if we don't know for sure who AZ's QB will be, can we at least get "AZ QB" in the top 10. Top 5 is probably more realistic.
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Here's a twist. Fitz and Boldin finished 2nd and 7th among WR's this year, yet Zona had no QB ranked better than 23rd.
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Warner was 17th in PPG.
 
I wonder if Palmer's stock will take a hit now . . .
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As of now I'd drop him to #6.
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You would think the recovery time would not be as long for a passing QB like Palmer versus a RB because they rely on their arm and the RB relies on his legs. But I am no Doctor.
 
I cannot believe that people have Bulger so low. Before he got hurt he was running stride for stride with Palmer for the top scoring FF QB in the league.

I know Martz is gone, but their talent is still where it is and I doubt they're just going to ignore the fact that they have a top QB and 3 big play WR's.
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He has never shown the ability to play a full season. One hard shot to the turf and he's out for a month with shoulder impingement
 
I cannot believe that people have Bulger so low. Before he got hurt he was running stride for stride with Palmer for the top scoring FF QB in the league.

I know Martz is gone, but their talent is still where it is and I doubt they're just going to ignore the fact that they have a top QB and 3 big play WR's.
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He has never shown the ability to play a full season. One hard shot to the turf and he's out for a month with shoulder impingement
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If by hard shot to the turf you mean dropping his shoulder against a defender running back an INT (stupid move IMO, but he has heart I guess), then yeah.QBs are a fragile lot in general, which is why I buy them in bulk later in the draft. If his stock falls because of injury concerns, you could have a top 5 FFQB for the games he is healthy for the cost of a 9th or 10th round pick.

However, I doubt he falls past the 6th or 7th round which makes it a riskier proposition.

 
I wonder if Palmer's stock will take a hit now . . .
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Palmer only moves to my #3 behind McNabb.
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I can't see having a non running, non TO @ WR McNabb as the #2 QB. He is moving into 2003 Steve McNair territory with less talent around him.He'll be in the 5-7 range, but I don't see more than that right now.

 
I wonder if Palmer's stock will take a hit now . . .
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Palmer only moves to my #3 behind McNabb.
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I can't see having a non running, non TO @ WR McNabb as the #2 QB. He is moving into 2003 Steve McNair territory with less talent around him.He'll be in the 5-7 range, but I don't see more than that right now.
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I'd have to agree somewhat...In the season prior to Owens' arrival, McNabb posted a pedestrian 3200+ yards and 16-11 TD/INT ratio. Sure...he rumbled for 355 yards and 2 TD's, but I think we can all agree his running days are almost over.

1. P Manning

2. Palmer

3. Brady

4. Hasselbeck

5. McNabb

6. Big Ben

7. E Manning

8. Bulger

If Roth wasn't playing in such a "run-first" offense and if McNabb wasn't playing in such a "pass-first" offense, they'd be flip-flopped in a heartbeat.

 
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I wonder if Palmer's stock will take a hit now . . .
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Palmer only moves to my #3 behind McNabb.
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I can't see having a non running, non TO @ WR McNabb as the #2 QB. He is moving into 2003 Steve McNair territory with less talent around him.He'll be in the 5-7 range, but I don't see more than that right now.
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I still like his receiving weapons and I think they'll pick up some help at WR. If they don't I'll temper my enthusiasm.
 
Based on recent developments:There is more uncertainty regarding Palmer's knee than originally disclosed. I have read contradictory reports on when he could be available. That uncertainty makes me drop him because if I had to draft today I would be cautious not to pick up a QB early that would not play much in 2006. I drop Palmer from #2 to #6. Big Ben jumps over Brees at #8. I like what I am seeing in the playoffs. I was too optimistic on Culpepper's return. I dropped him from #14 to #20 and might drop him off my top 20 list later. Weiner Dog: if you could extend your list a little, I could include your rankings in the consensus.

 
Lots of unkown starting situations including some high powered teams like San Diego, Cincy, and Oakland. Rankings reflect that risk. Unclear starting jobs labeled with * to show that ranking isnt based just on performance expectation.1. Peyton Manning2. Vick3. McNabb4. Hasselbeck5. Eli Manning6. Drew Brees *7. Carson Palmer *8. Tom Brady9. Daunte Culpepper *10. Favre *11. Bulger *12. Delhomme13. Plummer14. Roethlisberger15. Warner *16. Bledsoe17. Collins *18. Pennington *19. Green20. Carr

 
Lots of unkown starting situations including some high powered teams like San Diego, Cincy, and Oakland. Rankings reflect that risk. Unclear starting jobs labeled with * to show that ranking isnt based just on performance expectation.

1. Peyton Manning

2. Vick

3. McNabb

4. Hasselbeck

5. Eli Manning

6. Drew Brees *

7. Carson Palmer *

8. Tom Brady

9. Daunte Culpepper *

10. Favre *

11. Bulger *

12. Delhomme

13. Plummer

14. Roethlisberger

15. Warner *

16. Bledsoe

17. Collins *

18. Pennington *

19. Green

20. Carr
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Vick at #2 :lmao: Thanks for the laugh.

 
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Quarterbacks

1. Peyton Manning

2. Tom Brady

3. Carson Palmer

4. Donovan McNabb

5. Matt Hasselbeck

6. Marc Bulger

7. Eli Manning

8. Daunte Culpepper

9. Drew Brees

10. Jake Plummer

11. Ben Roethlisberger

12. Trent Green

13. Jake Delhomme

14. Byron Leftwich

15. Kurt Warner

16. Michael Vick

17. Drew Bledsoe

18. Brett Farve

19. Steve McNair

20. Chris Simms

21. Rex Grossman

22. Kyle Boller

23. Joey Harrington

24. Kerry Collins

25. David Carr

26. Mark Brunell

27. Matt Leinart

28. Gus Ferotte

29. Charlie Frye

30. Jay Cutler

 
rank

QB1 MBulger STL

QB2 PManning IND

QB3 DMcNabb PHI

QB4 EManning NYG

QB5 MHasselbeck SEA

QB6 CPalmer CIN

JKitna CIN

QB7 JDelhomme CAR

QB8 DBrees SD

PRivers SD

QB9 JPlummer DEN

QB10 TBrady NE

QB11 KBoller BAL

QB12 TGreen KC

QB13 SMcNair TEN

QB14 JHarrington DET

QB15 BRoethlisberger PIT

QB16 BLeftwich JAX

QB17 KCollins OAK

QB18 KWarner ARZ

QB19 GFrerotte MIA

QB20 CSimms TB

QB21 BJohnson MIN

DCulpepper MIN

QB22 MVick ATL

QB23 MBrunell WAS

QB24 DCarr HOU

QB25 DBledsoe DAL

QB26 RGrossman CHI

QB27 CFrye CLE

QB28 ARodgers GB

QB29 CPennington NYJ

QB30 MLeinart Team

QB31 JPLosman BUF

KHolcomb BUF

QB32 PRamsey Team

QB33 ASmith SF

QB34 BGriese Team

QB35 ABrooks Team

QB36 JCutler Team

QB37 BVolek Team

QB38 JMcCown Team

QB39 DGarrard Team

QB40 TRattay Team

QB41 VYoung Team

 
I must be in the minority thinking McNabb will not be a top 5 QB next year ... The Eagles completely self destructed last year ... McNabb can't seem to stay healthy, and no more TO. I'm sure He'll be top 10, but I definitely would not draft him top 3 and most likely not top 5.

I think all these guys (in no particular order) have a good shot at beating him ...

Manning

Palmer

Brady

Hasselbeck

Bulger

Delhomme

Brees

 
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After the trade to Miami, I would rank Culpepper around #8 right now

if he is healthy all year I think he will end up top 5.

 
I RANKED PROJECTED TEAM STARTERS ONLY. (33)

I have Rodgers down at bottom in case Favre retires.

Peyton Manning, IND

Carson Palmer, CIN

Matt Hasselbeck, SEA

Tom Brady NE

Drew Bledsoe, DAL

Eli Manning, NYG

Donovan McNabb PHI

Byron Leftwich, JAC

Daunte Culpepper, MIA

Kurt Warner, ARI

Jake Delhomme, CAR

Michael Vick, ATL

Marc Bulger, StL

Drew Brees, NO

Oaklands QB (Brooks?)

Brett Favre, GB

Jake Plummer, DEN

Steve McNair, TEN

Ben Roethlisberger, PIT

Mark Brunell, WAS

Trent Green, KC

Rex Grossman, CHI (IF HE STAYS HEALTHY)

Chad Pennington Jets (If he stays Healthy)

Charlie Frye, CLE

McCown or Kitner DET

Chris Simms, TB

Brad Johnson, MIN

David Carr, HOU

Phillip Rivers, SD

Kyle Boller, BAL

J.P Losman, BUF

Aaron Rodgers GB (If Favre Retires)

Alex Smith, SF

 
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Isnt brunell ranked very low? He has a lot of weapons and if he stays healthy for a good portion of the year, he should excel!

 
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I like Bulger as much as the next guy, as Bulger actually ranks as the #3 QB over the past 3 seasons on a ppg basis.But how realistic is it to expext Bulger to play 16 games without getting banged up? Over those 3 years, the Rams have allowed 139 sacks (29th worst in the league) compared to 53 for the Colts in the same time frame.He has yet to play in all 16 games in a season and because of that has posted career highs of only 3964 passing yards and 22 TD. He'll need a lot better numbersin both categories to get to the top of the food chain. (He was on pace to do way better than that last year but never had the chance once he got hurt.)
 
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