Once again, Art Monk gets totally screwed because of one man, Peter "I'm a total incomptent hack" King, who with his typical New York bias, refuses to vote for anyone from the Redskins of the 1980s.
When the Pro Football Hall of Fame opens up the "stuck around for endless seasons compiling very average statistics" wing, then Art Monk will be a lock for enshrinement.
They already did. You weren't aware that Moon got in? If this guy dosen't play in the run and shoot and didn't put up artificially high stats for a couple years we are not even talking about him right now. I watched Moon a lot and I never recall thinking there was anything special about him. Anyone that is not just purely looking at end of career stats and actually watched him play knows that he was a good QB, but never special/great. IMO good players do not belong in the HOF. But, that is the point where we are at with the pro football HOF. Any HOF that has a minimum number of guys that must get in each year dosen't hold much weight.
First, Moon was a starter for 15 of his 17 seasons. He only played in the run-and-shoot for four seasons (1990-93).
Sorry, but I think his longetivity was more of a factor to his high statistics than the R&S system. Either way, it's silly to say he has artificially high stats due to the R&S as he only played in it for 4 out of 17 seasons. But hey, don't let facts get in the way....
My point is that his stats are very ordinary the other years when he didn't play in the run and shoot. And I don't think guys should get in just becuase they played a long time and compiled large stat lines. No one in here has yet to come up with a great/signature Warren Moon game or moment. He was never great and I don't think merely good players should be in a HOF. Do you think he was a great player?
Are these stats ordinary for the following seasons NOT in the R&S?
| Passing | Rushing |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| 1988 hou | 11 | 160 294 54.4 2327 7.9 17 8 | 33 88 5 |
| 1989 hou | 16 | 280 464 60.3 3631 7.8 23 14 | 70 268 4 |
| 1995 min | 16 | 377 606 62.2 4228 7.0 33 14 | 33 82 0 |
| 1997 sea | 15 | 313 528 59.3 3678 7.0 25 16 | 17 40 1 |
Again, those are numbers without a stud RB or WR. Most HOF QB's had more offensive help than Moon did.
A closer look at your four examples from above.
In '88 & '89, Moon threw to Duncan, Hill, Givens and Jeffires. Possibly the best quartet of WRs who were ever on the same field at the same time.
In 1995, Moon had Robert Smith as his RB. The same Robert Smith who led the NFC in rushing. He also has Cris Carter and Jake Reed as his receivers.
In 1997, Moon's primary RB was Chris Warren, who had a 1500+ yard season under his belt. That year, he also had Joey Galloway, who was a very dangerous WR.
Let's not make it sound like he was surrounded by the 1976 Buccaneers.