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2007 Draft Discussion: Defensive Backs (1 Viewer)

Jene Bramel

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SAFETIES

The safety group this year looks pretty interesting, similar to last season when there were plenty of late round picks who had (Bethea, Landry, Harper) or are about to have (Page, Pollard) an IDP impact behind a couple top notch prospects. Plenty of the “new tweener” breed of cover safeties that can support the run as well. The comparisons are tough here because many of these guys have very similar skill sets to my marginally trained eye.

Laron Landry, LSU (6’1”, 215)

The total package. Can run, hit and cover. Maybe the most instinctive defender in the draft. IDP stud in the making in the right scheme with 80 solo/6 interception per season potential.

Comparison: Rod Woodson

Reggie Nelson, Miami (5’11”, 200)

Solid cover safety with decent run support skills. Could cover most slot receivers and has above average big play instincts.

Comparison: Greg Wesley

Michael Griffin, Texas (6’0”, 200)

Inconsistent all-around skills. Ball instincts, run support angles, and tackling are suspect at times but his measurables suggest he could be a top player. Could be a solid in-the-box player despite his size.

Comparison: A slighter, but better covering Roy Williams.

Brandon Meriweather, Miami (5’11”, 195)

If not for his off-field silliness (and some shoulder issues), Meriweather would probably be getting pimped all over the place. He could be the best cover corner in the draft and he hits bigger than his size might indicate. Seems likely to be a FS in the NFL. Coyle compares him to Troy Vincent, but his scouting report suggests he could be a better all-around player at both safety and corner. I’m thinking he’s a mix of the best qualities of Ed Reed, Troy Vincent and Bob Sanders.

Comparison: Ed Reed

Aaron Rouse, Virginia Tech (6’4”, 220)

Big, athletic, in-the-box safety that can handle some coverage but will struggle against stud TEs and slot WRs. Could improve and become a real force as an all-around player in the mold of a young Sammy Knight. In the right system, could give Landry a run as the top IDP value at safety.

Comparison: Adrian Wilson

Tanard Jackson, Syracuse (6’0”, 200)

Played a lot of corner in college but projects as a solid NFL safety in the new breed of guys who can cover all over the field and still hit.

Comparison: Donte Whitner

Eric Weddle, Utah (5’11”, 200)

Instinctive, jack-of-all-trades kind of guy. May not have one elite skill though. Works hard in run support and has solid cover skills, though he may not project well to corner in the NFL. No easy comp here either. Some say a less explosive, better covering Bob Sanders. I think he sounds a little like Renaldo Hill, but more athletic.

Comparison: Renaldo Hill

Josh Gattis, Wake Forest (6’1”, 210)

Most reports suggest Gattis is above average in run support and zone coverage but struggles to match up in man coverage. This class is deep with new breed cover safeties, but Gattis will be available later and could be a very nice player. He could have big IDP upside in the right system.

Comparison: Gibril Wilson or Marcus Pollard

Other guys like Michael Johnson (Arizona State), Sabby Piscatelli (Oregon State), and John Wendling (Wyoming) all have some coverage blemishes that will push them to the back of the draft but have the size/skill set that fill up boxscores. They could compare favorably to a Michael Lewis or Adam Archuleta type player. All are worth watching closely and any could have nice value in a good situation.

CORNERBACKS

Lot of interesting prospects coming in this year’s draft for those in CB specific leagues. Like last year with Cedric Griffin, Alan Zemaitis and Ashton Youboty, there are also a handful of Cover-2 types who will be taken in the middle rounds who could have solid IDP value down the road in deeper dynasty leagues.

Leon Hall, Michigan (5’11”, 195)

Big, physical corner who could succeed in any scheme but gets downgraded in some scouting circles for his inconsistency on deep routes and gambling nature.

Comparison: DeAngelo Hall

Chris Houston, Arkansas (5’10”, 185)

Instinctive cover corner with better run support skills than his size might indicate. Gets to plenty of balls but has questionable hands.

Comparison: Dunta Robinson

Darrelle Revis, Pittsburgh (5’11”, 200) // possible return specialist

Scouting report reads like the total package. Has the size, speed, instincts, ball skills, and willingness to support the run that can make an IDP stud in any league. Also may contribute in the return game.

Comparison: Ty Law

Marcus McCauley, Fresno State (6’1”, 200)

Big, athletic cover corner with suspect instincts and a history of inconsistent play in coverage and run support. Questionable whether athleticism and recovery skills will make up for poor instincts in the NFL. If he puts it together, his career could mirror Rashean Mathis.

Comparison: Shawntae Spencer

Aaron Ross, Texas (6’0”, 195)

Playmaking corner with developing man skills. Willing hitter in run support. Could develop into a top corner in any scheme but could become an IDP stud in a Cover-2 scheme with his zone cover and ball skills.

Comparison: Charles Tillman

Others to watch in the right situation:

Eric Wright (UNLV) could prove to be better than some of the above guys over time. Travarous Bain (Hampton), Daymeion Hughes (Cal) and a whole host of other guys with size but some man coverage blemishes (e.g. Michael Coe) could fit well in one of the many Cover-2 schemes around the league. Hughes is probably the best bet right now.

 
Jene, this has been great stuff you've posted on the draft.

Can you give a percentage guess on each guy as to his chances of being a SS or FS?

 
Jene, this has been great stuff you've posted on the draft.Can you give a percentage guess on each guy as to his chances of being a SS or FS?
Much depends on scheme and positional availability on the team that drafts them, but I'd guess that the two way guys like Landry, Nelson, Meriweather and Jackson probably project to FS. Landry could play SS too. Rouse and Griffin fit more of an in-the-box SS mold. Gattis probably projects best to SS, too. Weddle could go either way, but his cover skills probably make him a better FS. You know me, though. I'm a wait-and-see until the post-draft dust settles kind of guy. Would have had Huff slanted toward a FS role pre-draft last year at this time.
 
SAFETIES

Reggie Nelson, Miami (5’11”, 200)

Comparison: Greg Wesley

Brandon Meriweather, Miami (5’11”, 195)

I’m thinking he’s a mix of the best qualities of Ed Reed, Troy Vincent and Bob Sanders.

Comparison: Ed Reed

Aaron Rouse, Virginia Tech (6’4”, 220)

Big, athletic, in-the-box safety that can handle some coverage but will struggle against stud TEs and slot WRs. Could improve and become a real force as an all-around player in the mold of a young Sammy Knight. In the right system, could give Landry a run as the top IDP value at safety.

Comparison: Adrian Wilson
Can you explain more why your #2 S is compared to a much lesser player than the others? Or is this in NFL-draft order?

 
SAFETIES

Reggie Nelson, Miami (5’11”, 200)

Comparison: Greg Wesley

Brandon Meriweather, Miami (5’11”, 195)

I’m thinking he’s a mix of the best qualities of Ed Reed, Troy Vincent and Bob Sanders.

Comparison: Ed Reed

Aaron Rouse, Virginia Tech (6’4”, 220)

Big, athletic, in-the-box safety that can handle some coverage but will struggle against stud TEs and slot WRs. Could improve and become a real force as an all-around player in the mold of a young Sammy Knight. In the right system, could give Landry a run as the top IDP value at safety.

Comparison: Adrian Wilson
Can you explain more why your #2 S is compared to a much lesser player than the others? Or is this in NFL-draft order?
Neither. :thumbup: It's just a jumping off point for discussion. I'm not comfortable ranking them from a NFL or IDP value standpoint yet. Bloom will probably do both at NFLDraftGuys before the draft.

The comps are way for me (and maybe others) to get a rough idea of what kind of NFL player has a similar build and skill set. I'm not suggesting that the player's future production will mirror that of his comp. In fact, in this safety group, many of these players don't have a clear comp to me. I probably could've compared many of the new breed to Donte Whitner and not been far off.

 
Eric Weddle, Utah (5’11”, 200)

Instinctive, jack-of-all-trades kind of guy. May not have one elite skill though. Works hard in run support and has solid cover skills, though he may not project well to corner in the NFL. No easy comp here either. Some say a less explosive, better covering Bob Sanders. I think he sounds a little like Renaldo Hill, but more athletic.

Comparison: Renaldo Hill

I heard him interviewed this afternoon on Fox Radio. WOW! There is some truth to perception being reality. Weddle has his proverbial stuff squared away. Very impressive young man for someone that age. He spoke of his marriage, short and long term goals, passion for teaching special needs children and what he plans to do after football. He is FAR from your typical 20-23 year old.

You are right, though, that he does not have a true position but he can do many different things well. His soft skills and human intangibles, though, will see he gets taken a few ticks higher than you would expect. Listening to him I immediately thought of J. Lynch. If you have ever heard Lynch interviewed, then the comparison makes sense.

 
It's just a jumping off point for discussion. I'm not comfortable ranking them from a NFL or IDP value standpoint yet. Bloom will probably do both at NFLDraftGuys before the draft. The comps are way for me (and maybe others) to get a rough idea of what kind of NFL player has a similar build and skill set. I'm not suggesting that the player's future production will mirror that of his comp. In fact, in this safety group, many of these players don't have a clear comp to me. I probably could've compared many of the new breed to Donte Whitner and not been far off.
:mellow: Thanks Jene.On Eric Weddle - he seems to be a player I'd love to have on my NFL team, but do you see him producing in FF, even in the "right" situation? (he seems to be a Patriots type player)
 
Jene-

a great job!! looking forward to what this list looks like after the NFL draft when we know which NFL teams have drafted these guys.

One question for you: if you throw the 5 Safeties from 2006 in with this safety group and the CB's in wiht their cohorts, what would a ranking list look like?

thanks in advance

tex

 
It's just a jumping off point for discussion. I'm not comfortable ranking them from a NFL or IDP value standpoint yet. Bloom will probably do both at NFLDraftGuys before the draft. The comps are way for me (and maybe others) to get a rough idea of what kind of NFL player has a similar build and skill set. I'm not suggesting that the player's future production will mirror that of his comp. In fact, in this safety group, many of these players don't have a clear comp to me. I probably could've compared many of the new breed to Donte Whitner and not been far off.
:goodposting: Thanks Jene.On Eric Weddle - he seems to be a player I'd love to have on my NFL team, but do you see him producing in FF, even in the "right" situation? (he seems to be a Patriots type player)
Yes, he fits the success profile for the Pats and I agree. He will be a solid NFL pro but not necessarily a great IDP guy. Just like S. Bradley at LB.
 
It's just a jumping off point for discussion. I'm not comfortable ranking them from a NFL or IDP value standpoint yet. Bloom will probably do both at NFLDraftGuys before the draft. The comps are way for me (and maybe others) to get a rough idea of what kind of NFL player has a similar build and skill set. I'm not suggesting that the player's future production will mirror that of his comp. In fact, in this safety group, many of these players don't have a clear comp to me. I probably could've compared many of the new breed to Donte Whitner and not been far off.
:X Thanks Jene.On Eric Weddle - he seems to be a player I'd love to have on my NFL team, but do you see him producing in FF, even in the "right" situation? (he seems to be a Patriots type player)
Sure. Stick him at SS in Carolina or San Diego and there's at least DB2 upside. If he's lands as the FS in Tampa or a nickle back in Jacksonville, not so much.
 
Jene-a great job!! looking forward to what this list looks like after the NFL draft when we know which NFL teams have drafted these guys.One question for you: if you throw the 5 Safeties from 2006 in with this safety group and the CB's in wiht their cohorts, what would a ranking list look like?thanks in advancetex
That's probably a better question for Bloom or our other resident draft gurus. My barely educated guess would be that Landry, Whitner, Huff, Meriweather are the top four NFL talents with a long list of guys fighting to join the top five. I wouldn't guess on a IDP top five until after the draft as too much depends on team and opportunity. I could see a guy like Josh Gattis or Aaron Rouse having higher IDP value in Carolina than Landry in Atlanta. Similar to what happened with Roman Harper and Michael Huff last year.
 

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