2007 Minnesota Vikings In-Season Thread (1 Viewer)

[mozzy84]

I would welcome Denny Green back with a parade right now.

I'm serious, this is not shtick.

Denny Green? Crap I take Tice back with parade right now.

I will second that both of those, hell tice turned us around when we were 2-5 a couple years ago, at least tice made losing kinda fun if that makes any sense. no way does childress rally these guys, the defense should be completely giving up here shortly, probably after this weeks game....we let a good coach in Tomlin go last year, no way he would have done some of the things chilly has. USA today is picking up how sorry childress is it looks like.http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/vikings/home.htm

Just sucks actually being in about every one of these games and not being able to get it done...

 

[Polyethylene Bag]

Regarding the screen pass issue.I'm shocked they aren't using it. The day that I saw them at training camp, I would say 50% of the offensive plays they ran were screens.

this is what i noticed too. your two best offensive players are RBs, let's get a little creative (can't believe I'm calling screens creative) in getting them the ball. also, IMO screens are solid for the QB's confidence as they are generally easy completion. Have Tarvaris "warm up" with these or something.

It's mind-boggling that he hasn't done this. Just terrible coaching. I think it's quite obvious that most of our passes should be going to our RB's, especially now that Wade looks to be out. Heck, line MeMo up in the slot. He's got better hand than any receiver on the team not named Rice.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

The negativity in this thread has become too nauseating to bear. Even Snogger has gone to the darkside now.

AD Leber, Henderson, The Williams Brothers, Edwards sometimes, Winfield Hutichonson, BirkRising Sidney Rice, Middle of the road to Sharper, Taylor, GreenwayPlease get healthy or back to being productive and prove to us you deserve a roster spot : E. James, McKinnie, The QBBC, Cedric Griffin, and so far the rest of the WR's after Rice.And of course to Chidress.The Talent is there if we fix the

very true

I honestly (no, not a fishing trip) do not see where Childress has done a bad job of coaching with the players that he has. Maybe it was his decision not to get another QB, but that has nothing to do with the coaching. Last year everyone got on him because he ran the ball and did not throw it. Now he is running a ton but it isn't to the right RB even though they are at the top of the league in rushing offense. I don't like not winning either, but I don't really understand why it is falling on the coach. He doesn't have a playmaker at the QB position and he is playing Tarvaris to see if he is that guy. They are committed to him for the year, it isn't Childress' fault that Jackson gets hurt and he has to go with the other guys. They obviously decided that they were going with the development of Jackson when they decided not to go with Garcia or another option. Yes, it is costing them games this season, but in the end it is the best thing to do for the franchise. I admire the guy for being patient. If Jackson doesn't work out (hasn't looked good so far) then they can move on by drafting a franchise type guy next season - three are going to be available and their draft position should allow them to get one. It is frustrating that there is no offense to go with the defense that is playing well right now, but that is the way it goes. It all goes back to the QB position. He can call all the right plays but without quality play from the QB it can't be executed.

 

[malice]

Did you all hear the GREAT NEWS???

It looks as if the Vikings will have their No. 1 quarterback back, but his leading receiver has a slow-to-heal knee injury.

Tarvaris Jackson is likely to start again Sunday after recovering from a broken finger he suffered in the loss to the Dallas Cowboys.

With SD coming to town this should bring us one step closer to a Childress-less Viking team next season TJ Back.

I dread how angry many fans are going to be if the owner decides to give the coach one more season. I fear that will be the case though. Especially if they agree to chase a Derek Anderson or draft a certain BC quarterback.I'm a little surprised I don't see people mentioning going after a Bill Cowher, or maybe I just missed it in this thread.

You're assuming the team doesn't ship off to Toronto/LA and still has fans. I'll still be shocked if Andy Reid and Mike Holmgren aren't available by the end of this season.

 

[Vikes Fan]

The negativity in this thread has become too nauseating to bear. Even Snogger has gone to the darkside now.

AD Leber, Henderson, The Williams Brothers, Edwards sometimes, Winfield

Hutichonson, Birk

Rising Sidney Rice,

Middle of the road to Sharper, Taylor, Greenway

Please get healthy or back to being productive and prove to us you deserve a roster spot : E. James, McKinnie,

The QBBC, Cedric Griffin, and so far the rest of the WR's after Rice.

And of course to Chidress.

The Talent is there if we fix the

very true

I honestly (no, not a fishing trip) do not see where Childress has done a bad job of coaching with the players that he has. Maybe it was his decision not to get another QB, but that has nothing to do with the coaching. Last year everyone got on him because he ran the ball and did not throw it. Now he is running a ton but it isn't to the right RB even though they are at the top of the league in rushing offense. I don't like not winning either, but I don't really understand why it is falling on the coach. He doesn't have a playmaker at the QB position and he is playing Tarvaris to see if he is that guy. They are committed to him for the year, it isn't Childress' fault that Jackson gets hurt and he has to go with the other guys. They obviously decided that they were going with the development of Jackson when they decided not to go with Garcia or another option. Yes, it is costing them games this season, but in the end it is the best thing to do for the franchise. I admire the guy for being patient.

If Jackson doesn't work out (hasn't looked good so far) then they can move on by drafting a franchise type guy next season - three are going to be available and their draft position should allow them to get one. It is frustrating that there is no offense to go with the defense that is playing well right now, but that is the way it goes. It all goes back to the QB position. He can call all the right plays but without quality play from the QB it can't be executed.

First, it isn't his fault that TJax got hurt, but it is his fault if he is rushing TJax along while not having another option to mentor him.Second, every time someone says he doesn't have any talent, I retort with...two years ago we were 9-7 and many people have said that we have more talent now with Hutch, a healthy Birk, C Taylor, AP, etc. then we had then. Who was the coach of that 9-7 team of mish-mash? Tice. Yes, bonehead Tice got 9-7 out of a less-talented group. How can that NOT be a reflection on Childress?

 

[encaitar]

The negativity in this thread has become too nauseating to bear. Even Snogger has gone to the darkside now.

AD Leber, Henderson, The Williams Brothers, Edwards sometimes, Winfield

Hutichonson, Birk

Rising Sidney Rice,

Middle of the road to Sharper, Taylor, Greenway

Please get healthy or back to being productive and prove to us you deserve a roster spot : E. James, McKinnie,

The QBBC, Cedric Griffin, and so far the rest of the WR's after Rice.

And of course to Chidress.

The Talent is there if we fix the

very true

I honestly (no, not a fishing trip) do not see where Childress has done a bad job of coaching with the players that he has. Maybe it was his decision not to get another QB, but that has nothing to do with the coaching. Last year everyone got on him because he ran the ball and did not throw it. Now he is running a ton but it isn't to the right RB even though they are at the top of the league in rushing offense. I don't like not winning either, but I don't really understand why it is falling on the coach. He doesn't have a playmaker at the QB position and he is playing Tarvaris to see if he is that guy. They are committed to him for the year, it isn't Childress' fault that Jackson gets hurt and he has to go with the other guys. They obviously decided that they were going with the development of Jackson when they decided not to go with Garcia or another option. Yes, it is costing them games this season, but in the end it is the best thing to do for the franchise. I admire the guy for being patient.

If Jackson doesn't work out (hasn't looked good so far) then they can move on by drafting a franchise type guy next season - three are going to be available and their draft position should allow them to get one. It is frustrating that there is no offense to go with the defense that is playing well right now, but that is the way it goes. It all goes back to the QB position. He can call all the right plays but without quality play from the QB it can't be executed.

First, it isn't his fault that TJax got hurt, but it is his fault if he is rushing TJax along while not having another option to mentor him.Second, every time someone says he doesn't have any talent, I retort with...two years ago we were 9-7 and many people have said that we have more talent now with Hutch, a healthy Birk, C Taylor, AP, etc. then we had then. Who was the coach of that 9-7 team of mish-mash? Tice. Yes, bonehead Tice got 9-7 out of a less-talented group. How can that NOT be a reflection on Childress?

I may be the only person alive who was dissappointed to see them let Tice go. I thought he was finally starting to understand what was needed to win in the NFL. Now we get another newbie coach that has stupid ideas that he won't let go of. Tice always wanted to get his Randy Ratio for each game no matter what the defense was doing. Childress wants to limit ADP to keep him fresh and refuses to acknowledge that TJ is not an NFL caliber QB.

 

[JMon348]

Should be a great game for AD this week, hopefully he wants to show LT his time at the top is OVER!

 

[JMon348]

The negativity in this thread has become too nauseating to bear. Even Snogger has gone to the darkside now.

AD Leber, Henderson, The Williams Brothers, Edwards sometimes, Winfield Hutichonson, BirkRising Sidney Rice, Middle of the road to Sharper, Taylor, GreenwayPlease get healthy or back to being productive and prove to us you deserve a roster spot : E. James, McKinnie, The QBBC, Cedric Griffin, and so far the rest of the WR's after Rice.And of course to Chidress.The Talent is there if we fix the

Dont think this has been mentioned in here, but AD won Offensive player of the month I think Chester deserves some props, he's looked good in his limited actionoffensive line has been up and down all year, even seem some mistakes by Hutch.Henderson, Pat and Kevin have been wonderfulKenechi is having his best season as a proRobison and Edwards have been up and downI cant grade the DBs, cuz i dont know if they are horrible at pass coverage, or the scheme is killing them.Longwell and Kluwe have been okQb play has been a disaster, and the WRs arent helping.id also like to add another thumbdown for the coach

 

[JMon348]

Chili. Makin' friends...

From PFT.com

CHILDRESS TELLS GEORGE TO CHILL OUT

On Monday, former NFL quarterback Jeff George made it known that he'd like to play for the Vikings. On Wednesday, coach Brad Childress responded.

"Probably maybe go to a fantasy camp or something like that," Childress said.

Asked whether George is on the downside of his playing career, Childress said, "Downside would probably be -- I think -- kind."

Ouch. We didn't know an NFL coach could be so snarky.

George was taken aback by the remarks.

"It kind of catches me off guard," George said, according to Sean Jensen of the St. Paul Pioneer Press. "I don't know how to comment on that."

But then, of course, he did.

"With any team, not just Minnesota, that might need a quarterback, I would hope someone would overlook what happened 10 years ago, or whoever they got their information from, and just give me an opportunity. You don't have to sign me. But it won't hurt to bring me in and take a look."

We agree. George is 38. Vinny Testaverde is 43. George has far less wear and tear than most other quarterbacks his age, because he really hasn't played all that much. And he likely still has a rocket of an arm.

But even bringing George in for a look-see would be a tacit admission by Childress that his current quarterbacks suck. The fact that Childress is the only one who apparently can't see this means that, in due time, it will be kind to say that Childress is on the downside of his coaching career.

Thats our coach baby!!

 

[Vikes Fan]

I honestly (no, not a fishing trip) do not see where Childress has done a bad job of coaching with the players that he has. Maybe it was his decision not to get another QB, but that has nothing to do with the coaching. Last year everyone got on him because he ran the ball and did not throw it. Now he is running a ton but it isn't to the right RB even though they are at the top of the league in rushing offense.

I don't like not winning either, but I don't really understand why it is falling on the coach. He doesn't have a playmaker at the QB position and he is playing Tarvaris to see if he is that guy. They are committed to him for the year, it isn't Childress' fault that Jackson gets hurt and he has to go with the other guys. They obviously decided that they were going with the development of Jackson when they decided not to go with Garcia or another option. Yes, it is costing them games this season, but in the end it is the best thing to do for the franchise. I admire the guy for being patient.

If Jackson doesn't work out (hasn't looked good so far) then they can move on by drafting a franchise type guy next season - three are going to be available and their draft position should allow them to get one. It is frustrating that there is no offense to go with the defense that is playing well right now, but that is the way it goes. It all goes back to the QB position. He can call all the right plays but without quality play from the QB it can't be executed.

First, it isn't his fault that TJax got hurt, but it is his fault if he is rushing TJax along while not having another option to mentor him.Second, every time someone says he doesn't have any talent, I retort with...two years ago we were 9-7 and many people have said that we have more talent now with Hutch, a healthy Birk, C Taylor, AP, etc. then we had then. Who was the coach of that 9-7 team of mish-mash? Tice. Yes, bonehead Tice got 9-7 out of a less-talented group. How can that NOT be a reflection on Childress?

I may be the only person alive who was dissappointed to see them let Tice go. I thought he was finally starting to understand what was needed to win in the NFL. Now we get another newbie coach that has stupid ideas that he won't let go of. Tice always wanted to get his Randy Ratio for each game no matter what the defense was doing. Childress wants to limit ADP to keep him fresh and refuses to acknowledge that TJ is not an NFL caliber QB.

Nope. I was too. While some things he did drove me crazy, I thought he did a good job of surrounding himself with coaches that knew the Xs and Os better than he did. I loved how candid he was with the media and enjoyed watching him on Sportswrap with Joe Schmidt after games, because he was always brutally honest. I also like the fact that a couple of times on draft day, he would call KFAN out of the blue on his way to Winter Park just to talk about the draft process, etc. I thought he gave the fan great insigt into football. I can't believe I just admitted that...

 

[Polyethylene Bag]

I may be the only person alive who was dissappointed to see them let Tice go. I thought he was finally starting to understand what was needed to win in the NFL. Now we get another newbie coach that has stupid ideas that he won't let go of. Tice always wanted to get his Randy Ratio for each game no matter what the defense was doing. Childress wants to limit ADP to keep him fresh and refuses to acknowledge that TJ is not an NFL caliber QB.

Like most, I thought Tice was a sub-par coach when we let him go and am now yearning for the good old days under Tice. Hard for me to believe.

 

[encaitar]

I didn't see this mentioned in the game thread so I thought I'd comment on it here. EJ Henderson is becoming the stud that the Vikings hoped he would be! He had 3 Tackles For loss on LDT today. I know that the Williams Wall is a big part of this and they're getting all the attention, but EJ is coming into his own as a LB in this league. Now, if Greenway can become the LB we hoped he would be, this defense could really become special in the next few years.

 

[snellman]

From Vikingupdate.com

“He’s better as he goes and the more he gets warm,” head coach Brad Childress said. “That was a pretty salty run defense coming into it.”

Is Childress finally starting to get it?

 

[Cookiemonster]

I didn't see this mentioned in the game thread so I thought I'd comment on it here. EJ Henderson is becoming the stud that the Vikings hoped he would be! He had 3 Tackles For loss on LDT today. I know that the Williams Wall is a big part of this and they're getting all the attention, but EJ is coming into his own as a LB in this league. Now, if Greenway can become the LB we hoped he would be, this defense could really become special in the next few years.

I've watched all of the Vikes' games as I could this year (a proud ADP drafter) and I have to say that E.J. gets a Pro Bowl vote from me, and I can't say that there's a better MLB in the NFL right now, Williams' aside. FWIW, I had already bumped his Madden attributes to about a 92/94 and may bump him more after I see what he does this season.

 

[ratpfink]

From Vikingupdate.com

“He’s better as he goes and the more he gets warm,” head coach Brad Childress said. “That was a pretty salty run defense coming into it.”

Is Childress finally starting to get it?

No. He just has a rationalization for whatever decision he makes.It's like the MNF TV crew a few weeks ago. Some team has 4th down and one of the boneheads in the booth says that in effect the correct play is to go for it because you're down by 9 and need a TD and a FG at some point. The team elects to kick a field goal and 30 seconds later the same bonehead says "The team made the right decision"Remember, this is a coach that takes time to instruct his players on the nuances of putting one foot out of bounds when you field a kick at the 1.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

AD for MVP.

I said it first! Twice!

 

[pigskin pimp]

Wow, I don't watch much college football. But I did watch ADP in his bowl game. Looked good. But never thought it would translate to this.

Congrats, to ADP. As many honors as he deserves for his record breaking game, the OLine should be given almost as many. Not to mention the WRs blocking downfield.

Robert Ferguson held a huge block to break ADP on one of his runs, and on the others the Oline broke big holes for him. After that, All Day do his thing.

 

[pigskin pimp]

I'd also like to add that just because Childress landed ADP in the draft and came away with the best RB since LT does not excuse him from being on the hot seat.

Mr. Stauche needed 7 games to figure out what your every day Joe already knew. Give ADP the ball often and a lot. Play fake with him. Throw screens.

Play with your strengths.

This team should have a lot better record.

The only way I can fathom Childress coming back in 2008 is if he's the intangible for dressing McNabb in purple.

 

[JMon348]

Should be a great game for AD this week, hopefully he wants to show LT his time at the top is OVER!

what i meant by great was greatest game a rb has ever had.

 

[JMon348]

AD for MVP.I said it first! Twice!

if a certain team goes 16-0 and a certain player keeps up his current pace, AD has no shot.

 

[JMon348]

From Vikingupdate.com

“He’s better as he goes and the more he gets warm,” head coach Brad Childress said. “That was a pretty salty run defense coming into it.”

Is Childress finally starting to get it?

only downside to AD's explosion is we might finish .500, which might save his job.

 

[snogger]

My prediction of a 6-10 season isn't looking so now as long as Childress doesn't try and coach his way out of a job.

3-5, with a very good possibility of winning 3 of these upcoming games.

Raiders, Bears, Redskins at home and at Denver and a outside shot vs. The Lions in the Dome.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

My prediction of a 6-10 season isn't looking so now as long as Childress doesn't try and coach his way out of a job.3-5, with a very good possibility of winning 3 of these upcoming games.Raiders, Bears, Redskins at home and at Denver and a outside shot vs. The Lions in the Dome.

They should smoke the 49ers too. 6-10 is definitely acheivable. 7-9 isn't unreasonable.

 

[snogger]

My prediction of a 6-10 season isn't looking so now as long as Childress doesn't try and coach his way out of a job.3-5, with a very good possibility of winning 3 of these upcoming games.Raiders, Bears, Redskins at home and at Denver and a outside shot vs. The Lions in the Dome.

They should smoke the 49ers too. 6-10 is definitely acheivable. 7-9 isn't unreasonable.

How the hell did I leave the 49ers off that list??

 

[snogger]

He looks like a "Ziggy" here.

 

[JMon348]

http://vikingmerchandise.com/vikings/custo...at=0&page=1

 

[encaitar]

Well, that was UGLY! No other way to describe it. However I have a few thoughts coming out of this game.

1. Getting rid of Childress is the biggest priority of the offseason. The Vikings were completely unprepared for this game. That falls on the HC. Look at the difference between the Vikings and Green Bay playcalling. GB knows the run D is stout up the middle and that Winfield is out, so they run offtackle to the right side and wow, imagine that they gain yards. They also did a great job of keeping the Dline in place with the shovel and screen passes. I thought the Green Bay playcalling was excellent. The Vikings playcalling was horrid however. They were too predictable(which may have to do with no good QB to open it up with) and it showed.

2. The defense has a LOT of work to do. Previously I was under the impression that the Vikings needed 1 corner, 1 safety, and maybe a pass rushing linebacker to become elite. However, this game showed me that both our safeties are too slow to cover anyone with speed. Cedric Griffin is awful. Plus, I am not convinced we have DEs that can get consistant pressure.(This may be due to the lack of blitzing as well, but Favre was hit like 3 times today. 3 times! That's terrible)

3. The offense was even worse IMO. It's clear that priority No. 1 is a QB. I hope the rest of the year is TJax under center. If he can't even show a glimmer by year's end it's time to find a good veteran. Priority No. 2 is wide receivers. Without Rice out there noone could get open and I mean noone. This might be the worst group of receivers EVER ASSEMBLED. They need another stud receiver and a good possession type as well. Wade, Williamson, and Ferguson should be nothing more than 4th options.

4. I do have one good note however. EJ Henderson is a STUD! Grant would've run for 160 today without EJ out there. He was the only one of our linebacking core making tackles today. And he was laying the big hit. I remember a couple of years back when people were putting him in the bust category. It now appears that he may be the true anchor of this defense. Very impressed with him today.

Anyway, it appears the Vikings will be picking in the top 10 this year outside of any ADP superheroics. If this does happen, the Vikings need to take Kenny Philips. He could be an absolute monster at safety in this league. Otherwise I'm hoping for a guy like DeSean Jackson. If the Vikings do look for a QB in this upcoming draft, it should be in the second round. This draft is so deep with QB talent it would be stupid not to. Anyway, sorry for the long post.

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[JMon348]

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[Donnybrook]

2. The defense has a LOT of work to do. Previously I was under the impression that the Vikings needed 1 corner, 1 safety, and maybe a pass rushing linebacker to become elite. However, this game showed me that both our safeties are too slow to cover anyone with speed. Cedric Griffin is awful. Plus, I am not convinced we have DEs that can get consistant pressure.(This may be due to the lack of blitzing as well, but Favre was hit like 3 times today. 3 times! That's terrible)My

Cedric Griffin is not awful. He is a good tackler and I believe he was in position to make two picks today. Both were knocked away in the end zone. It time to admit that GB wide receivers are good. The Denver CB combo struggled against them as well. I agree that the problem was the lack of pressure on Favre. I know that Favre is good versus the blitz but I would like to see more blitzes. I am big fan of Jim Johnson's defense and his "exotic" blitz packages.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

I agree that the problem was the lack of pressure on Favre. I know that Favre is good versus the blitz but I would like to see more blitzes. I am big fan of Jim Johnson's defense and his "exotic" blitz packages.

I don't think that they blitzed much at all. They should have played man-to-man and blitzed like crazy. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20 and there is no doubt that the Pack is just a much better team ( :whoosh: - that just hurts to say!). I hope Peterson is ok, not that he will guide us to the playoffs, but just because he is the only thing that makes this team worth watching.I agree that they need to play Tarvaris and see if he is the guy, and then do something about the position in the offseason. Even if he does show something, they still need a backup with any kind of an arm. Hey, I'm always an optimist, and I will continue - Draft day should be fun because we should get the good players!!

 

[snogger]

Well, that was UGLY! No other way to describe it. However I have a few thoughts coming out of this game.

1. Getting rid of Childress is the biggest priority of the offseason. The Vikings were completely unprepared for this game. That falls on the HC. Look at the difference between the Vikings and Green Bay playcalling. GB knows the run D is stout up the middle and that Winfield is out, so they run offtackle to the right side and wow, imagine that they gain yards. They also did a great job of keeping the Dline in place with the shovel and screen passes. I thought the Green Bay playcalling was excellent. The Vikings playcalling was horrid however. They were too predictable(which may have to do with no good QB to open it up with) and it showed.

Solution to this problem is here>>Should be hired today to get ready for next year.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'd just like to point out that I called for Chili's ouster LAST year. But anyway...

Glad I didn't see the game yesterday. Glad I won't get to see the game this Sunday.

 

[snogger]

Well, that was UGLY! No other way to describe it. However I have a few thoughts coming out of this game.

2. The defense has a LOT of work to do. Previously I was under the impression that the Vikings needed 1 corner, 1 safety, and maybe a pass rushing linebacker to become elite. However, this game showed me that both our safeties are too slow to cover anyone with speed. Cedric Griffin is awful. Plus, I am not convinced we have DEs that can get consistant pressure.(This may be due to the lack of blitzing as well, but Favre was hit like 3 times today. 3 times! That's terrible)

No team will get constant pressure on any QB when you are only rushing 3 or 4. There were many times yesterday where the 4th Lineman was dropping back in Middle coverage. Yea, smart idea there, give Favre 3 hours to find someone.

I think the LB's and the The defensive line are fine as long as the coaching uses them correctly. From play one yesterday you could see how the game plan was set in stone for the Vikes. The LB's were dropping back 10 yards, corners were playing off and the Safety's were playing center field. Again, great coaching move there, Favre has no idea how to use the Receivers under coverage.

With no Winfield there was no way in hell they were going to be able to cover, but that was the game plan so we stuck with it. Brilliant game plan.

Need to replace Griffith ASAP. He has had 2 years and hasn't shown any improvement at all.

Pickup one, maybe two FA for the DB, but look to use the draft mainly to solve this.

 

[snogger]

I'd just like to point out that I called for Chili's ouster LAST year. But anyway...Glad I didn't see the game yesterday. Glad I won't get to see the game this Sunday.

What, you think you were the only one calling for Childress's head last year?? I am torn about this upcoming weekend. I always want the vikings to win. But the door wouldn't hit Childress in the butt any faster than if he lost to the Raiders at home.It would almost be poetic justice if the Raiders started Culpepper and he went off for 300+ yards and 3 or 4 TD's. Hmmm, going to have to think on that one this week.

 

[Sabertooth]

Hope Peterson is ok for you guys in here. My team (Packers) won't have to face him again until next season. He's a special talent is capable of lifting the entire offense around him. To think I was disappointed when the Packers missed out on Childress and had to settle for McCarthy.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

So if I show up five minutes after kickoff, how cheap do you think I could get tickets for from a scalper?

I'm thinking the Raiders may start Jamarcus Russell and I'd like to see him.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

I didn't want them to hire Chili in the first place.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I didn't want them to hire Chili in the first place.

I cursed his parents out when they conceived him.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

I didn't want them to hire Chili in the first place.

I cursed his parents out when they conceived him.

I'll be honest...I don't mind the guy. I really like his philosophy of building up the offensive line and base everything around the running game. The QB position is just killing this team. Now, that could be his fault or not, but I agree with his philosophy - but that does not necessarily make him a good head coach. I am reserving judgement until next season (if he makes it that long).

 

[snogger]

I didn't want them to hire Chili in the first place.

I cursed his parents out when they conceived him.

I'll be honest...I don't mind the guy. I really like his philosophy of building up the offensive line and base everything around the running game. The QB position is just killing this team. Now, that could be his fault or not, but I agree with his philosophy - but that does not necessarily make him a good head coach. I am reserving judgement until next season (if he makes it that long).

How can you even question whether that is his fault or not. He choose TJ as the starter, he choose Bollinger as a back-up.

He even made the decision to bring in Detmer for 4 days, Pay him $40,000 and say .

He is nothing if not consistent on his crappy decision at the QB position.

 

[Donnybrook]

I didn't want them to hire Chili in the first place.

I cursed his parents out when they conceived him.

I'll be honest...I don't mind the guy. I really like his philosophy of building up the offensive line and base everything around the running game. The QB position is just killing this team. Now, that could be his fault or not, but I agree with his philosophy - but that does not necessarily make him a good head coach. I am reserving judgement until next season (if he makes it that long).

If Derrick Anderson is for real, he can be added to a growing list of QBs that were late round picks or undrafted that have been successful in the NFL. Already on the list are Tom Brady, Matt Hasslebeck, Mark Bulger, Tony Romo, Jon Kitna, Jeff Garcia and Jake Delhomme. I keep thinking that there has to a be QB walking the street that is better than the QBs on the Vikings roster. I thought maybe that Tyler Thigpen could have been the guy but they gave up on him. Instead of looking at young arms, they keep signing Koy Detmer types.

I try to be patient but I have basically given up on Travaris Jackson. He has all the atheletic ability in the world but I almost never see him get past his first read before he delivers the ball. Is this what he does naturally or is this what Chilly has taught him to do? Is the lines so bad that he never has time to go through his progressions?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

I didn't want them to hire Chili in the first place.

I cursed his parents out when they conceived him.

I'll be honest...I don't mind the guy. I really like his philosophy of building up the offensive line and base everything around the running game. The QB position is just killing this team. Now, that could be his fault or not, but I agree with his philosophy - but that does not necessarily make him a good head coach. I am reserving judgement until next season (if he makes it that long).

If Derrick Anderson is for real, he can be added to a growing list of QBs that were late round picks or undrafted that have been successful in the NFL. Already on the list are Tom Brady, Matt Hasslebeck, Mark Bulger, Tony Romo, Jon Kitna, Jeff Garcia and Jake Delhomme. I keep thinking that there has to a be QB walking the street that is better than the QBs on the Vikings roster. I thought maybe that Tyler Thigpen could have been the guy but they gave up on him. Instead of looking at young arms, they keep signing Koy Detmer types.

I try to be patient but I have basically given up on Travaris Jackson. He has all the atheletic ability in the world but I almost never see him get past his first read before he delivers the ball. Is this what he does naturally or is this what Chilly has taught him to do? Is the lines so bad that he never has time to go through his progressions?

Thigpen could have been one of those guys. But, we'll never know cause we wasted a draft pick on him so we could release him to KC.

 

[jestertj]

I didn't want them to hire Chili in the first place.

I cursed his parents out when they conceived him.

I'll be honest...I don't mind the guy. I really like his philosophy of building up the offensive line and base everything around the running game. The QB position is just killing this team. Now, that could be his fault or not, but I agree with his philosophy - but that does not necessarily make him a good head coach. I am reserving judgement until next season (if he makes it that long).

If Derrick Anderson is for real, he can be added to a growing list of QBs that were late round picks or undrafted that have been successful in the NFL. Already on the list are Tom Brady, Matt Hasslebeck, Mark Bulger, Tony Romo, Jon Kitna, Jeff Garcia and Jake Delhomme. I keep thinking that there has to a be QB walking the street that is better than the QBs on the Vikings roster. I thought maybe that Tyler Thigpen could have been the guy but they gave up on him. Instead of looking at young arms, they keep signing Koy Detmer types.

I try to be patient but I have basically given up on Travaris Jackson. He has all the atheletic ability in the world but I almost never see him get past his first read before he delivers the ball. Is this what he does naturally or is this what Chilly has taught him to do? Is the lines so bad that he never has time to go through his progressions?

Thigpen could have been one of those guys. But, we'll never know cause we wasted a draft pick on him so we could release him to KC.

Nothing annoys me more than wasting 7th round picks. Fire everyone!!!!!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Nothing annoys me more than wasting 7th round picks. Fire everyone!!!!!

I think we may be back to looking at three wins again. Four max. Snogger!

 

[snogger]

Nothing annoys me more than wasting 7th round picks. Fire everyone!!!!!

I think we may be back to looking at three wins again. Four max. Snogger!

I still say they beat Oakland, 49ers & The Bears to get to 6.But, Like I said earlier..I'm torn right now.. I always cheer for the Vikes to win. But wonder if they lose to a pathetic, crappy team like the Raiders, in the Dome, maybe, just maybe Ziggy will do what's right and fire Childress next Sunday night and hire Cower Monday.I can only dream

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This certainly makes the Vikings one dimensional.

Uh, wait...

 

[snogger]

This certainly makes the Vikings one dimensional.Uh, wait...

Are you saying they are going to be a passing team now?? I'm out to pick up all Viking WR's & TE's now for my FF Teams.Championship...

 

[ScoobyDoo]

I didn't want them to hire Chili in the first place.

I cursed his parents out when they conceived him.

I'll be honest...I don't mind the guy. I really like his philosophy of building up the offensive line and base everything around the running game. The QB position is just killing this team. Now, that could be his fault or not, but I agree with his philosophy - but that does not necessarily make him a good head coach. I am reserving judgement until next season (if he makes it that long).

If Derrick Anderson is for real, he can be added to a growing list of QBs that were late round picks or undrafted that have been successful in the NFL. Already on the list are Tom Brady, Matt Hasslebeck, Mark Bulger, Tony Romo, Jon Kitna, Jeff Garcia and Jake Delhomme. I keep thinking that there has to a be QB walking the street that is better than the QBs on the Vikings roster. I thought maybe that Tyler Thigpen could have been the guy but they gave up on him. Instead of looking at young arms, they keep signing Koy Detmer types.

I try to be patient but I have basically given up on Travaris Jackson. He has all the atheletic ability in the world but I almost never see him get past his first read before he delivers the ball. Is this what he does naturally or is this what Chilly has taught him to do? Is the lines so bad that he never has time to go through his progressions?

Thigpen could have been one of those guys. But, we'll never know cause we wasted a draft pick on him so we could release him to KC.

Nothing annoys me more than wasting 7th round picks. Fire everyone!!!!!

Thigpen.Bollinger.

Holcombe.

T. Jack.

A 7th, two 6ths, and a second. And 40,000 bucks for Koy Detmer.

Oh, and 6th rounders usually end up making the New England Patriots. Maybe you've heard of them?

 

[jestertj]

This certainly makes the Vikings one dimensional.Uh, wait...

This can only lead to 5 wide sets featuring TJax slinging the rock over the heads of Wade, Shiancoe, Williamson, Rice, Ferguson and Allison.The NFL will now know fear!

 

[jestertj]

I didn't want them to hire Chili in the first place.

I cursed his parents out when they conceived him.

I'll be honest...I don't mind the guy. I really like his philosophy of building up the offensive line and base everything around the running game. The QB position is just killing this team. Now, that could be his fault or not, but I agree with his philosophy - but that does not necessarily make him a good head coach. I am reserving judgement until next season (if he makes it that long).

If Derrick Anderson is for real, he can be added to a growing list of QBs that were late round picks or undrafted that have been successful in the NFL. Already on the list are Tom Brady, Matt Hasslebeck, Mark Bulger, Tony Romo, Jon Kitna, Jeff Garcia and Jake Delhomme. I keep thinking that there has to a be QB walking the street that is better than the QBs on the Vikings roster. I thought maybe that Tyler Thigpen could have been the guy but they gave up on him. Instead of looking at young arms, they keep signing Koy Detmer types.

I try to be patient but I have basically given up on Travaris Jackson. He has all the atheletic ability in the world but I almost never see him get past his first read before he delivers the ball. Is this what he does naturally or is this what Chilly has taught him to do? Is the lines so bad that he never has time to go through his progressions?

Thigpen could have been one of those guys. But, we'll never know cause we wasted a draft pick on him so we could release him to KC.

Nothing annoys me more than wasting 7th round picks. Fire everyone!!!!!

Thigpen.Bollinger.

Holcombe.

T. Jack.

A 7th, two 6ths, and a second. And 40,000 bucks for Koy Detmer.

Oh, and 6th rounders usually end up making the New England Patriots. Maybe you've heard of them?

Can you name one besides Tom Brady without looking it up?