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***2009 NFL DRAFT*** (1 Viewer)

Raider Nation

Devil's Advocate
1) Detroit

2) St. Louis

3) Kansas City

4) Seattle

5) Cleveland

6) Cincinnati

7) Oakland

8) Jacksonville

9) Green Bay

10) San Francisco

 
1) Detroit2) St. Louis3) Kansas City4) Seattle5) Cleveland6) Cincinnati7) Oakland8) Jacksonville9) Green Bay10) San Francisco
Would it be Buffalo or S.F. at the 10th spot? Either way, the other team gets the 11th spot. Although I don't like S.F. being in front of the Bills seeing that they took P.Willis right in front of us a couple years back. And how does the NFL do tie breakers?
 
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1) Detroit2) St. Louis3) Kansas City4) Seattle5) Cleveland6) Cincinnati7) Oakland8) Jacksonville9) Green Bay10) San Francisco
Detroit Sam Bradford?Cincy WellsJacksonville Does Crabtree last to the 8th pick?
Bradford to Detroit seems likely.Cleveland seems like a more likely destination for Wells (or KC with the LJ demanding to leave talk)As the other poster said, Crabtree will be a Seahawk if he's still on the board.
 
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1) Detroit

2) St. Louis

3) Kansas City

4) Seattle

5) Cleveland

6) Cincinnati

7) Oakland

8) Jacksonville

9) Green Bay

10) San Francisco
Detroit Sam Bradford?Cincy Wells

Jacksonville Does Crabtree last to the 8th pick?
Crabtree won't make it past Seattle, and there's a chance he won't make it past Kansas City.
Don't kid yourself, he may not even make it past Detroit. You know how they love to draft WR's. Even with Millen gone, I wouldn't put it past them.
 
Interesting.... I figured Tebow would be better suited to go #1 overall to Detroit. As bad as Detroit is no way do they draft a WR #1. They need a QB and there are a few to pick from. I also think Crabtree goes to Seattle.

 
1) Detroit

2) St. Louis

3) Kansas City

4) Seattle

5) Cleveland

6) Cincinnati

7) Oakland

8) Jacksonville

9) Green Bay

10) San Francisco
Detroit Sam Bradford?Cincy Wells Cincy takes Crabtree and sends C. Johnson off to Miami..Benson is the real deal, found himself a home in Cincy, will be 2009 starting RB for the team.

Jacksonville Does Crabtree last to the 8th pick? :no:
Fixed.
 
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Wells won't go in the Top 10. Too many other good players ahead of him like Bradford, Stafford, Crabtree, A Smith, Oher, Orakpo, and Jenkins for sure.

 
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One man's opinion on the top 10, no RBs here

1) Detroit - Bradford, take the LT with Dallas's pick (but I can easily see Oher here and QB later)

2) St. Louis - Oher / Smith

3) Kansas City - Oher / Smith

4) Seattle - Crabtree

5) Cleveland - Aaron Curry

6) Cincinnati - Brian Orakpo

7) Oakland - Eugene Monroe

8) Jacksonville - Malcolm Jenkins

9) Green Bay - Michael Johnson

10) San Francisco - Matt Stafford

Lock

Player will not fall past here

 
Interesting.... I figured Tebow would be better suited to go #1 overall to Detroit. As bad as Detroit is no way do they draft a WR #1. They need a QB and there are a few to pick from. I also think Crabtree goes to Seattle.
Tebow will be lucky to be a first rounder, and probably won't go until around the third.
 
Interesting.... I figured Tebow would be better suited to go #1 overall to Detroit. As bad as Detroit is no way do they draft a WR #1. They need a QB and there are a few to pick from. I also think Crabtree goes to Seattle.
Tebow will be lucky to be a first rounder, and probably won't go until around the third.
Tebow is a gimmick player. He will never be a true NFL qb.
 
Ramblin Wreck said:
Wells won't go in the Top 10. Too many other good players ahead of him like Bradford, Stafford, Crabtree, A Smith, Oher, Orakpo, and Jenkins for sure.
Agree wholeheartedly. I've said it a couple times on this board, but we're too FANTASY oriented to see the top RB fall out of the top 10.
 
offdee said:
Cleveland seems like a more likely destination for Wells (or KC with the LJ demanding to leave talk)
I'm beginning to wonder how many times this offseason I'm going to write the Browns won't be drafting a RB in the 1st round.
 
offdee said:
Cleveland seems like a more likely destination for Wells (or KC with the LJ demanding to leave talk)
I'm beginning to wonder how many times this offseason I'm going to write the Browns won't be drafting a RB in the 1st round.
:popcorn: 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 % chance the Browns take a RB at #5.
 
Tanner9919 said:
ChrisCooleyFan said:
Raider Nation said:
1) Detroit

2) St. Louis

3) Kansas City

4) Seattle

5) Cleveland

6) Cincinnati

7) Oakland

8) Jacksonville

9) Green Bay

10) San Francisco
Detroit Sam Bradford?Cincy Wells Cincy takes Crabtree and sends C. Johnson off to Miami..Benson is the real deal, found himself a home in Cincy, will be 2009 starting RB for the team.

Jacksonville Does Crabtree last to the 8th pick? :goodposting:
Fixed.
If he makes it that far... definately not Wells though.My guess for Cincy's board.

1. Oher

2. Smith

3. Crabtree

4. Orakpo

5. Curry

6. Maualuga

 
offdee said:
Cleveland seems like a more likely destination for Wells (or KC with the LJ demanding to leave talk)
I'm beginning to wonder how many times this offseason I'm going to write the Browns won't be drafting a RB in the 1st round.
:cry: 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 % chance the Browns take a RB at #5.
So you're saying there's a chance?
 
Forgive my laziness/busyness, but if anyone has any good links to updated mock NFL drafts from respected sites that reflect these updated draft slots, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could post a link or paste it into this thread. Rookie draft prep is the highlight of dynasty for me!

 
Hoss_Cartwright said:
tribecalledjeff said:
CanadianNFLJunkie said:
Interesting.... I figured Tebow would be better suited to go #1 overall to Detroit. As bad as Detroit is no way do they draft a WR #1. They need a QB and there are a few to pick from. I also think Crabtree goes to Seattle.
Tebow will be lucky to be a first rounder, and probably won't go until around the third.
Tebow is a gimmick player. He will never be a true NFL qb.
Yea... but he was talking about who Detriot would draft.
 
Off the top of my head.

1) Detroit - Sam Bradford

2) St. Louis - Andre Smith

3) Kansas City - Aaron Curry

4) Seattle - Matt Stafford

5) Cleveland - Malcolm Jenkins

6) Cincinnati - Michael Oher

7) Oakland - Michael Crabtree

8) Jacksonville - Rey Maualuga

9) Green Bay - Brian Orakpo

10) San Francisco - Eugene Monroe

Taylor Mays and Jason Smith are two guys that could end up there somewhere.

 
Detroit may take Sam Bradford, but I sure hope they don't. Orlovsky is serviceable and they have many other needs to fill first. Orlovsky may not win many games for you, but he won't lose many either. O-line and basically every position on D are much bigger needs than QB.

 
SI reporting that Andre Smith has been suspended for the sugar bowl. Violation of team rules. Gotta think that pushes his chances of comign out from 95% to 100%

 
Off the top of my head.1) Detroit - Sam Bradford2) St. Louis - Andre Smith3) Kansas City - Aaron Curry4) Seattle - Matt Stafford5) Cleveland - Malcolm Jenkins6) Cincinnati - Michael Oher7) Oakland - Michael Crabtree8) Jacksonville - Rey Maualuga9) Green Bay - Brian Orakpo10) San Francisco - Eugene MonroeTaylor Mays and Jason Smith are two guys that could end up there somewhere.
You see Crabtree falling past Seattle?I guess I like Crabtree going to Oakland, that is, if we solidify the O-line in the offseason. Russell, McFadden and Crabtree would be a very nice young trio of playmakers on offense (and let's not forget about Miller at TE), but they can't possibly live up to the potential with an average O-line.Now that I'm reading it, I think it's highly unlikely for AD to pass on a big name talent like Crabtree if he's available at 7, regardless of whether we've addressed the O-line in FA or not.
 
Off the top of my head.

1) Detroit - Sam Bradford

2) St. Louis - Andre Smith

3) Kansas City - Aaron Curry

4) Seattle - Matt Stafford

5) Cleveland - Malcolm Jenkins

6) Cincinnati - Michael Oher

7) Oakland - Michael Crabtree

8) Jacksonville - Rey Maualuga

9) Green Bay - Brian Orakpo

10) San Francisco - Eugene Monroe

Taylor Mays and Jason Smith are two guys that could end up there somewhere.
You think Oher drops that far? I like Curry, but #3 to KC is too high IMO when they have other pressing needs. Crabtree's a wildcard if Seattle takes Stafford, I wouldn't be shocked if he fell to Jacksonville and he'd make a nice 1-2 punch with the finally developing Matt Jones.

 
You see Crabtree falling past Seattle?

I guess I like Crabtree going to Oakland, that is, if we solidify the O-line in the offseason. Russell, McFadden and Crabtree would be a very nice young trio of playmakers on offense (and let's not forget about Miller at TE), but they can't possibly live up to the potential with an average O-line.

Now that I'm reading it, I think it's highly unlikely for AD to pass on a big name talent like Crabtree if he's available at 7, regardless of whether we've addressed the O-line in FA or not.
Quite possibly. He'd be a great fit there for sure, but they have a bunch of guys that they've been developing that they may give another chance to (Payne, Taylor, Obomanu) even though they've underperformed to date.
Off the top of my head.

1) Detroit - Sam Bradford

2) St. Louis - Andre Smith

3) Kansas City - Aaron Curry

4) Seattle - Matt Stafford

5) Cleveland - Malcolm Jenkins

6) Cincinnati - Michael Oher

7) Oakland - Michael Crabtree

8) Jacksonville - Rey Maualuga

9) Green Bay - Brian Orakpo

10) San Francisco - Eugene Monroe

Taylor Mays and Jason Smith are two guys that could end up there somewhere.
You think Oher drops that far? I like Curry, but #3 to KC is too high IMO when they have other pressing needs. Crabtree's a wildcard if Seattle takes Stafford, I wouldn't be shocked if he fell to Jacksonville and he'd make a nice 1-2 punch with the finally developing Matt Jones.
Oher is my #2 player behind Bradford, so I think he could even go ahead of Smith depending on what a team is looking for in their LT. It would surprise me to see him fall, but only a bit.Curry to KC is a bit high, but they need an impact player on defense and Curry is the #1 guy in that mold this year. I like Orakpo, but he's not that special. KC is another team that could take just about any of the top guys and improve their team. Even Crabtree would be a good pick for them.

 
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Mr. Peterson said:
Raider Nation said:
1) Detroit2) St. Louis3) Kansas City4) Seattle5) Cleveland6) Cincinnati7) Oakland8) Jacksonville9) Green Bay10) San Francisco
Would it be Buffalo or S.F. at the 10th spot? Either way, the other team gets the 11th spot. Although I don't like S.F. being in front of the Bills seeing that they took P.Willis right in front of us a couple years back. And how does the NFL do tie breakers?
I believe both teams finished 7-9, and SF beat Buffalo straight up, so I would assume that Buffalo would get #10 (sorry for the hijack).
 
If Seattle doesn't draft Crabtree I will be mad... but that said I could see them taking one Oher/Smith or the Safety Mays from USC to replace Brian Russel.

 
Off the top of my head.1) Detroit - Sam Bradford2) St. Louis - Andre Smith3) Kansas City - Aaron Curry4) Seattle - Matt Stafford5) Cleveland - Malcolm Jenkins6) Cincinnati - Michael Oher7) Oakland - Michael Crabtree8) Jacksonville - Rey Maualuga9) Green Bay - Brian Orakpo10) San Francisco - Eugene MonroeTaylor Mays and Jason Smith are two guys that could end up there somewhere.
You see Crabtree falling past Seattle?I guess I like Crabtree going to Oakland, that is, if we solidify the O-line in the offseason. Russell, McFadden and Crabtree would be a very nice young trio of playmakers on offense (and let's not forget about Miller at TE), but they can't possibly live up to the potential with an average O-line.Now that I'm reading it, I think it's highly unlikely for AD to pass on a big name talent like Crabtree if he's available at 7, regardless of whether we've addressed the O-line in FA or not.
Either way, it's good news for the Raiders if two QBs and a CB go before our pick. If Oher/Smith/Crabtree are left when the Raiders pick, it's good news. As of today, anyway........
 
You see Crabtree falling past Seattle?

I guess I like Crabtree going to Oakland, that is, if we solidify the O-line in the offseason. Russell, McFadden and Crabtree would be a very nice young trio of playmakers on offense (and let's not forget about Miller at TE), but they can't possibly live up to the potential with an average O-line.

Now that I'm reading it, I think it's highly unlikely for AD to pass on a big name talent like Crabtree if he's available at 7, regardless of whether we've addressed the O-line in FA or not.
Quite possibly. He'd be a great fit there for sure, but they have a bunch of guys that they've been developing that they may give another chance to (Payne, Taylor, Obomanu) even though they've underperformed to date.
Off the top of my head.

1) Detroit - Sam Bradford

2) St. Louis - Andre Smith

3) Kansas City - Aaron Curry

4) Seattle - Matt Stafford

5) Cleveland - Malcolm Jenkins

6) Cincinnati - Michael Oher

7) Oakland - Michael Crabtree

8) Jacksonville - Rey Maualuga

9) Green Bay - Brian Orakpo

10) San Francisco - Eugene Monroe

Taylor Mays and Jason Smith are two guys that could end up there somewhere.
You think Oher drops that far? I like Curry, but #3 to KC is too high IMO when they have other pressing needs. Crabtree's a wildcard if Seattle takes Stafford, I wouldn't be shocked if he fell to Jacksonville and he'd make a nice 1-2 punch with the finally developing Matt Jones.
Oher is my #2 player behind Bradford, so I think he could even go ahead of Smith depending on what a team is looking for in their LT. It would surprise me to see him fall, but only a bit.Curry to KC is a bit high, but they need an impact player on defense and Curry is the #1 guy in that mold this year. I like Orakpo, but he's not that special. KC is another team that could take just about any of the top guys and improve their team. Even Crabtree would be a good pick for them.
Yeah, I can't see Curry going that high. LB'ers are just not highly coveted positions at the top of the draft. Same sort of thing with Jenkins. I think he is the best defensive prospect out there, but Corners are rarely drafted that high. Someone in the 5-10 range is going to get a steal with him.
 
I could see Detroit taking A. Smith #1 and looking at Tebow with their other first rounder.
The Lions are idiots if they don't trade down. Way too many holes on that team to be drafting #1.
Unfortunately, it is pretty much impossible to trade down. The Lions, I am sure, would love to trade down. Who would want the pick?
There's always a GM out there willing to pull the trigger on draft day for the right price.
 
I believe the NFL uses strength of schedule as the tiebreaker for the draft.

TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING

If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff

1. The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last.

2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie moves down in drafting priority within its tied segment as follows:

* For a loss inthe Wild-Card playoffs, a plus factor of one-half.

* For participation, win or lose, in the Divisional Playoffs, a plus factor of one.

* For a loss in the conference championship Game, a plus factor of one.

3. Clubs with the best won-lost-tied records after these steps are applied will drop to their appropriate spots at the bottom of the tied segment. In no case will the above process move a club lower than the segmentin which it was initially tied.

4. Tied clubs will alternate priority throughout the 7 rounds of the draft. In case of a tie involving three or more teams, the club with priority in the first round will drop to the bottom of the tied segment in the second round and move its way back to the top of the segment in each succeeding round.

If any ties cannot be broken by strength of schedule, the divisional or conference tie breakers, whichever are applicable, are applied. Any ties that still exist are broken by a coin flip.
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
 
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There's always a GM out there willing to pull the trigger on draft day for the right price.
History suggests that is not the case. Charley Casserly tells the story about when he had the #1 pick for the Texans. He called the Jets GM, and asked if he was interested in the #1 pick. Jets GM replied, "Sure, what are you gonna give me to take it?"

In a year with no clear-cut #1 (at least, not yet), I would say it is almost impossible to move this pick. Someone has really want one specific player, and I am having a tough time finding a team and player to plug into that equation.

 
No Jason Smith, OT, Baylor, in anyone's top 10? Being a converted TE he doesn't have as much experience at OT, but he's arguably the most athletic OT in the draft.

 
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No Jason Smith, OT, Baylor, in anyone's top 10? Being a converted TE he doesn't have as much experience at OT, but he's arguably the most athletic OT in the draft.
:rolleyes: he could go above Monroe, but I'm not sure. We have at least 4 very good LT prospects in this draft. Very promising for teams in the top half.
 
Detroit may take Sam Bradford, but I sure hope they don't. Orlovsky is serviceable and they have many other needs to fill first. Orlovsky may not win many games for you, but he won't lose many either. O-line and basically every position on D are much bigger needs than QB..
exactly! and it's way too soon to give up on Orlovsky (or Stanton for that matter)
 
Until the niners decide what they are going to do with Alex Smith, it will be hard to predict them taking a qb with the 10th pick. Alex has already stated he will take a huge pay cut to stay with. I believe they will grab the top rated DL or CB.

 
No Jason Smith, OT, Baylor, in anyone's top 10? Being a converted TE he doesn't have as much experience at OT, but he's arguably the most athletic OT in the draft.
I mentioned that I believe he is a top 10 talent. There's going to be a lot of jockeying for position with the top four offensive tackles. It all depends on what team sees what during this offseason evaluation process.
 
Yeah, I can't see Curry going that high. LB'ers are just not highly coveted positions at the top of the draft. Same sort of thing with Jenkins. I think he is the best defensive prospect out there, but Corners are rarely drafted that high. Someone in the 5-10 range is going to get a steal with him.
Oh I agree that LBs are not normally taken that high. I don't understand why. Urlacher was taken 8th I believe and was worthy. Patrick Willis should have gone higher than 11th.Looking at the Chiefs, with all their holes to fill, I just think that an impact linebacker is where need meets the talent available. Curry would make their front seven a lot better, even if it's too early to take a linebacker.My mocks at this period of the year are done more from the perspective of what I'd do if I were the GM. The closer we get to draft day, and the more tea leaves I read, then I switch to what I think the team will actually do.
 
1. Detroit Lions

2. St. Louis Rams

3. Kansas City Chiefs

4. Seattle Seahawks

5. Cleveland Browns

6. Cincinnati Bengals

7. Oakland Raiders

8. Jacksonville Jaguars

9. Green Bay Packers

10. San Francisco 49ers

11. Buffalo Bills

12. Denver Broncos

13. Washington Redskins

14. New Orleans Saints

15. Houston Texans

16. San Diego Chargers *

17. New York Jets

18. Chicago Bears

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas)

21. Arizona Cardinals *

22. Philadelphia Eagles *

23. Minnesota Vikings *

24. New England Patriots

25. Atlanta Falcons *

26. Miami Dolphins*

27. Baltimore Ravens*

28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) *

29. Indianapolis Colts *

30. New York Giants*

31. Pittsburgh Steelers *

32. Tennessee Titans *

*Subject to playoffs

 
Unless Bradford grades out as a can't-miss-Peyton-type QB, I think the Lions should go with Oher. Orlovsky is serviceable and they can even make a run at Cassell, some other free agent or go QB later in the draft.

 

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