2010 MLB TEAM SEASON WIN TOTALS (1 Viewer)

[Limp Ditka]

Mets under 81 1/2This teams is terrible (John Maine's your #2?!??!) and the little bit of talent they have is riddled with question marksReyes - Does the hammy and/or thyroid come in to play more that the first week of the season?Beltran - Already missing about a month. What will he be when he comes back?Wright - I don't think last year was a fluke. Santana - Was already showing signs of regressing and now he's coming back from an off season surgery K Rod - Used up in Anaheim? 2009 showed a career high in WHIP and career low in K/9.Now odds are that all 5 of these guys don't crash and burn, but where are they if 2 or 3 of them do?

You're right but none of those guys are the reason why.

Not a Jerry Manual fan?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Yeah, Mets under looks good.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Mets under is a LOCK.

Hey GB!Edit: Sorry about your MetsI like the Twins over. I think they're improved (much?) over last year. All signs point to a solid year from Liriano. The lineup is deeper and stronger. Delmon may finally break through (.500 SLG in the 2nd half last year). Nathan's injury hurts, but they have several solid bullpen arms.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

Mets under 81 1/2This teams is terrible (John Maine's your #2?!??!) and the little bit of talent they have is riddled with question marksReyes - Does the hammy and/or thyroid come in to play more that the first week of the season?Beltran - Already missing about a month. What will he be when he comes back?Wright - I don't think last year was a fluke. Santana - Was already showing signs of regressing and now he's coming back from an off season surgery K Rod - Used up in Anaheim? 2009 showed a career high in WHIP and career low in K/9.Now odds are that all 5 of these guys don't crash and burn, but where are they if 2 or 3 of them do?

You're right but none of those guys are the reason why.

Not a Jerry Manual fan?

No but I wasn't really directly referring to him either. The rest of the team is just very shallow and poorly constructed and the front office is disfunctional and border-line incompetent.So even if they had the right complimentary pieces they aren't going to be used properly anyway.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

Mets under is a LOCK.

Hey GB!Edit: Sorry about your Mets

I like the Twins over. I think they're improved (much?) over last year. All signs point to a solid year from Liriano. The lineup is deeper and stronger. Delmon may finally break through (.500 SLG in the 2nd half last year). Nathan's injury hurts, but they have several solid bullpen arms.

Yeah, me too.

Love the Twinkies this year.

 

[JJP]

CUBS WINS u83½EVJust seems like they are usually overbet for the results they end up with.

Been true when the expectations are high. But set the bar low enough, even they should be able to jump over it. As bad as they were last year, they still won something like 86 games. I'd be shocked if all of the underperformers from 2009 followed it up again.

 

[Limp Ditka]

CUBS WINS u83½EVJust seems like they are usually overbet for the results they end up with.

Been true when the expectations are high. But set the bar low enough, even they should be able to jump over it. As bad as they were last year, they still won something like 86 games. I'd be shocked if all of the underperformers from 2009 followed it up again.

I'm really torn on this one. I think over's the play but wouldn't bet it unless I was forced to.Positives:Aramis shouldn't miss half of the season again They won't make the mistake of having Soriano bat lead off for 70 games and he says the knee is healthyMilton Bradley is goneNegatives:2nd base is a pretty big hole, but most NL teams have a hole somewhere That bullpen looks to be an absolute train wreck#5 starter is either Gorzelany or Silva when Lilly comes back. Unknowns:Lilly needs to come back strongCan Wells repeat his output from last year?Will the real Soto please stand up?How does the team react to Pinella in the last year of his contract? If this team goes south early, I don't see them recovering.

 

[kOOk]

my picks are

[22006] TOTAL u74-115 (ORIOLES u74-115 (RS) WINS vrs ORIOLES u74-115 (RS) WINS)

575 / 500

[22033] TOTAL o82½-115 (TWINS o82½-115 (RS) WINS vrs TWINS o82½-115 (RS) WINS)

575 / 500

[22027] TOTAL o84½-115 (ANGELS o84½-115 (RS) WINS vrs ANGELS o84½-115 (RS) WINS)

575 / 500

[22003] TOTAL o86-115 (BRAVES o86-115 (RS) WINS vrs BRAVES o86-115 (RS) WINS)

575 / 500

[22024] TOTAL u73½-115 (ASTROS u73½-115 (RS) WINS vrs ASTROS u73½-115 (RS) WINS)

575 / 500

[22017] TOTAL o84½-115 (ROCKIES o84½-115 (RS) WINS vrs ROCKIES o84½-115 (RS) WINS)

575 / 500

WOOT

 

[boubucarow]

I'm really torn on this one. I think over's the play but wouldn't bet it unless I was forced to. As a homer, I am also torn.

Positives:

Aramis shouldn't miss half of the season again His tricep issue is worrying me but he should be fine

They won't make the mistake of having Soriano bat lead off for 70 games and he says the knee is healthy Theriot/####udome should be solid OBP guys this year and I expect a mini-bounce back for Alfonso

Milton Bradley is gone And Byrd is a offensive and defensive upgrade

Negatives:

2nd base is a pretty big hole, but most NL teams have a hole somewhere I think Baker/Fontenot will be solid at the plate

That bullpen looks to be an absolute train wreck The young arms have to come trough or this team is in a world of late inning trouble

#5 starter is either Gorzelany or Silva when Lilly comes back. Yikes, Silva is looking oddly efficient in the spring but really?

Unknowns:

Lilly needs to come back strong He was unreal last year and won't repeat that, a solid 3.50-3.80 ERA from May til the end is needed

Can Wells repeat his output from last year? I expect a fall near the 4.00 ERA range

Will the real Soto please stand up? I see no reason not to expect a bounce back

How does the team react to Pinella in the last year of his contract? If this team goes south early, I don't see them recovering. Player psyche is always sadly an issue with this team

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

I like the Tigers over 80.5

Solid line up with the addition of Damon. Injuries with them may be a concern but can happen to any team.

A lot of talent in the starting staff with Verlander, Scherzer, Porcello, Bonderman and Willis. Verlander is an ace, the next 2 are talented and getting better. Bonderman coming off injury and Willis hoping for return to glory but alot of ability for a #5 starter.

Valverde is a solid closer,not always pretty but gets the job done in the end.

They underachieved last year and can only get better

To me they are at least a .500 team which puts them OVER 80.5

 

[Regular Crust Pizza]

Giants at 82.5?

That's about right. I see them regressing this year. Before entering this thread I would have said 83, 84 wins.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I like the Tigers over 80.5

Solid line up with the addition of Damon. Injuries with them may be a concern but can happen to any team.

A lot of talent in the starting staff with Verlander, Scherzer, Porcello, Bonderman and Willis. Verlander is an ace, the next 2 are talented and getting better. Bonderman coming off injury and Willis hoping for return to glory but alot of ability for a #5 starter.

Valverde is a solid closer,not always pretty but gets the job done in the end.

They underachieved last year and can only get better

To me they are at least a .500 team which puts them OVER 80.5

Don't underestimate the loss of Placido Polanco.I think Damon's numbers will suffer in that ballpark. Expect something along the lines of his 2007 (.270/12/63) numbers and not his 2008/9 (.290/21/76) numbers. You also can't hide Damon and Guillen @ DH. One of them is going to be out there enough to get hurt.

They're depending a lot on two rookies being in the lineup more often than not

Scherezer and Porcello each pitched way over their career highs in IPs last year. At least one of them regresses. And if its Scherzer, that's really really bad.

You're really betting on the success of Bonderman and Willis?

Leyland sucks.

 

[Eephus]

Giants at 82.5?That's about right. I see them regressing this year. Before entering this thread I would have said 83, 84 wins.

That's my feeling as well. I don't know if this team's recent past just breeds pessimism but I think their upside is limited. I'd stay away from this line altogether. There are definitely better values to be had.

 

[Man In The Box]

I like the Tigers over 80.5

Solid line up with the addition of Damon. Injuries with them may be a concern but can happen to any team.

A lot of talent in the starting staff with Verlander, Scherzer, Porcello, Bonderman and Willis. Verlander is an ace, the next 2 are talented and getting better. Bonderman coming off injury and Willis hoping for return to glory but alot of ability for a #5 starter.

Valverde is a solid closer,not always pretty but gets the job done in the end.

They underachieved last year and can only get better

To me they are at least a .500 team which puts them OVER 80.5

Don't underestimate the loss of Placido Polanco.I think Damon's numbers will suffer in that ballpark. Expect something along the lines of his 2007 (.270/12/63) numbers and not his 2008/9 (.290/21/76) numbers. You also can't hide Damon and Guillen @ DH. One of them is going to be out there enough to get hurt.

They're depending a lot on two rookies being in the lineup more often than not

Scherezer and Porcello each pitched way over their career highs in IPs last year. At least one of them regresses. And if its Scherzer, that's really really bad.

You're really betting on the success of Bonderman and Willis?

Leyland sucks.

Agreed. I stayed away from the Tigers. Outside of Cabrera, their offense is pretty pedestrian for an AL team.

 

[Regular Crust Pizza]

Giants at 82.5?That's about right. I see them regressing this year. Before entering this thread I would have said 83, 84 wins.

That's my feeling as well. I don't know if this team's recent past just breeds pessimism but I think their upside is limited. I'd stay away from this line altogether. There are definitely better values to be had.

Exactly. I think everything (including the offense as bas as it was) played to their potential last year. It could work out that the additions to offense and Posey eventually getting some playing time, will take the edge off and the rotation and bullpen won't need to be perfect, but I think there are more sure things out there.

 

[numberSE7EN]

General Question:

When betting on the over/under for a team's season win total - do you have to put up the money at the beginning of the season and the bookie gets to keep it all season until the bets closes out? That sounds great for the bookie-

-Thanks

I am thinking of laying some money down on the over on the Braves at 86.

 

[Eephus]

General Question:When betting on the over/under for a team's season win total - do you have to put up the money at the beginning of the season and the bookie gets to keep it all season until the bets closes out? That sounds great for the bookie--ThanksI am thinking of laying some money down on the over on the Braves at 86.

Let me know if you find a book that offers credit on futures

 

[lumpy19]

General Question:When betting on the over/under for a team's season win total - do you have to put up the money at the beginning of the season and the bookie gets to keep it all season until the bets closes out? That sounds great for the bookie--ThanksI am thinking of laying some money down on the over on the Braves at 86.

Let me know if you find a book that offers credit on futures

creditwagering.com i wouldn't count on getting paid though. some local bookies do this. another thing to look for is a book that pays early if the bet is won. i know sportsinteraction and 5dimes pay as soon as an over hits on season win totals. say you bet a team over80.5 wins and they come out and dominate and hit 81 wins in late august, 5dimes would pay the bet when they got their 81st win. it's not much but its nice to get the money back early in september because football is in full swing.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Took the unders on both NY ball clubs, 96 n 81.5....

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

added royals over 71 1/2

undr phils 93

 

[greedygoat]

I played the following:

KC Royals over 71.5 -115

LA Angels under 84.5 -115

Pit Pirates over 69.5 -110

TB Rays to win WS 17:1

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Took the unders on both NY ball clubs, 96 n 81.5....

added royals over 71 1/2undr phils 93

Just added SEATTLE over 83 1/2.Meant to play Braves but missed out, damn.Will probably add another one or two tonight from whoever hasn't played yet (tomorrow's games). ANYBODY LIKE ANYTHING THAT'S LEFT?

 

[DevilsTrifecta]

As much as I hate to say it, I like the Rockies over 84.5. They are very deep offensively, pretty good on defense, and have pretty good pitching. That's not a huge number, and I am generally not impressed with what the other teams in the division did. The Dodgers pitching is very questionable, I think the Giants traded defense for a prayer at increased offense (look for the Giants' pitchers to regress this year because of worse defense behind them), I don't like the DBacks' rotation without Webb, and the Padres are still trying to rebuild.Edit to add some perspective, I'm a Giants honk, FWIW.

Rockies over 84.5 is $$$They have the best rotation they have ever had. Carlos Gonzalez will be an all star this year. One concern is closer. Street has injury issues and Morales is too inconsistent. But I'd be shocked if they did not win 85 games. Besdies, like you said, no one really did anything offseason in the west and the Rox have a bunch of young players really starting to mature.They will have problems in the playoffs, though. They don't have enough RH hitting. Unless they trade Hawpe or Smith the same thing that happened last year will happen again. They'll get 3 lefties queued up against them in the playoffs.

 

[RoxSolid]

I know it's late but Padres Under I think is good as gold, this team loses 100 easily, especially after they deal Gonzalez and Bell

 

[TitusIII]

Carlos Quentin is back...that makes a huge difference. With a legit stud, and an emerging one(Beckham) in the middle of that lineup, over 83 is a lock given their powerhouse pitching....knocks on wood, hopes the wifey doesn't realize just how confident I am in this Chicago team. It seems every other year Chicago(AL) are kind of an after-thought before the season begins, and I believe this is the year they go wild and win 95-100 games.

Kenny Williams strikes me as the type that knows how to fix problems, and fix them fast...check back in Septemeber. I may be getting a divorce come October should Peavy or Buerhle go down for any extended length of time.

Over 83.5, by at least 5 games, imo...

 

[culdeus]

General Question:When betting on the over/under for a team's season win total - do you have to put up the money at the beginning of the season and the bookie gets to keep it all season until the bets closes out? That sounds great for the bookie--ThanksI am thinking of laying some money down on the over on the Braves at 86.

Let me know if you find a book that offers credit on futures

Not everyone bets online. Most local shops are setup on credit.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Took the unders on both NY ball clubs, 96 n 81.5....

added royals over 71 1/2

undr phils 93

Just added SEATTLE over 83 1/2.Meant to play Braves but missed out, damn.

Will probably add another one or two tonight from whoever hasn't played yet (tomorrow's games). ANYBODY LIKE ANYTHING THAT'S LEFT?

Actually, there was only one game left to pick from. No clue what to do with the Orioles, but did like the Rays enough to make one last play. Took the Over 89.Sooo, I ended up with the following, all for 10 units (5 on the Royals):

Rays Over 89

Seattle Over 83 1/2

Yankees Under 96

Mets Under 81 1/2

Phillies Under 93

Royals Over 71 1/2

Sorta kind of a anti-east coast bias thing going there, huh?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

ANGELS WINS o84½-115

BRAVES u86-115

CUBS WINS o83½-130

GIANTS WINS o82½-145

INDIANS WINS u74½-130

MARINERS WINS o83½-150

RANGERS WINS o83½-140

RED SOX WINS u94½-115

ROCKIES WINS o84½-115

WHITE SOX WINS u83½-105

YANKEES WINS o96-115

Here are the ones I like, 4 in bold I like the best.

So 2-2 on the four I liked best, man was I off on the two I got wrong. 6-3 with the White Sux still out, they probably get over there.