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2010 Ultimate IDP Survivor Opening Leg Thread (1 Viewer)

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Jene Bramel

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LEG 1 URLs

Tackle Heavy

Balanced 1

Balanced 2

Big Play Heavy

48 contestants (9 staff IDP contributors//39 message boarders)

Leg 1

Four 12 team leagues drafting individual offensive and defensive players. Each league will have 2-3 staff members. There are one tackle heavy, one big play heavy and two balanced scoring leagues.

**Offensive scoring will include PPR. Defensive scoring will vary by league. Available IDP scoring systems are listed below. All offensive lineups will be QB/2RB/3WR/TE/PK with a single RB/WR/TE flex to total nine offensive starters. All defensive lineups will be 2DE/DT/3LB/2CB/2S with a single DL/LB/DB flex to total 11 defensive starters. All owners will draft 40 players during a slow MFL draft to begin Wednesday, August 28. Initial draft order will be generated randomly by dice roll. There will be no positional restrictions during the draft. Trading is not allowed during the draft.

**Owners will not submit lineups. The best available lineup will be scored from your entire roster of players.

**This season's contest will be an all-play contest. Each team will play every other team each week. Total wins and losses will be added up over the eight week "season". The three teams with the best all-play records from each league will advance to the final leg. Tiebreaker will be total points scored if necessary.

Leg 2

**A single 12 team league drafting individual defensive players only consisting of the top three scoring teams from each of the four original Leg 1 leagues. Draft slots will be awarded according to performance in the Leg 1 leagues. The top scoring team in each Leg 1 league will draft in the top draft slots, with the exact order to be determined randomly. Random draws will take place for each "bucket" of the next highest scoring team from each league.

**Defensive scoring will be balanced IDP scoring. Scoring system will be sent to all potential league participants well in advance. All defensive lineups will be 2DE/DT/3LB/2CB/2S with a single DE/LB/DB flex to total 11 defensive starters. All owners will draft 24 players (no positional restrictions) by slow MFL draft to begin on Tuesday morning following Week 8 of the NFL season. Should the draft not be complete by Saturday noon ET of that week, all owners will be expected to be available to finish the draft in a live draft room (TBD) at noon ET Saturday.

**Should a Leg 2 owner be unable to draft and need to be replaced, a random dice roll among the highest remaining scorer in each of the three Leg 1 leagues will determine the first replacement owner. Potential replacement owners will be notified in advance.

**Owners will not submit lineups. The best available lineup will be scored from your entire roster of players.

**This season's contest will be an all-play contest. Each team will play every other team each week. Total wins and losses will be added up over the eight week "season". The team with the best all-play record (total points tiebreaker) between Weeks 9 and 16 of the NFL regular season will be declared the champion.

FBG has graciously agreed to put up the following prizes again this year:

1st prize: Lifetime subscription, $300 cash

2nd prize: 3 year subscription, $150 cash

3rd prize: 3 year subscription, $100 cash

4th prize: 3 year subscription, $75 cash

5th - 8th prizes: 1 year subscription

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Message board contestants will be eligible for the contest after self-nominating themselves in a thread in the IDP Forum and will be chosen for inclusion by the IDP staff.Scoring systems:

Defense: Leg 1 (Tackle heavy) Leg 2 (Big play heavy) Leg 3 (Balanced) Solo 2 1.5 1.5 Assist 1 0.75 0.75 Sack 4 8 5 PD 1 1.5 1.5 INT 4 8 5 FF 2 5 4 FR 2 5 4 TD 6 10 6Offense:TD 6 (all pass, rush, receiving, return)

Rush/Rec Yd 0.1 per yard

Pass Yd 0.05 per yard

Reception 1 (RB/WR/TE)

INT -1

XP 1

FG 3

 
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MFL invites have been sent to all owners who have confirmed with an email by PM. If you haven't gotten an MFL invite, let me know ASAP so I can check your email address for errors I've made in transcription.

Dice rolls for draft order will follow tonight. Drafts will begin tonight, with a 12 hour timer (turned off overnight) to be instituted by noon tomorrow (Wednesday, July 28).

Good luck everybody.

ETA: The highest dice roll will receive the first pick, etc.

 
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Lots of you are not receiving the MFL invite. I'm assuming they're being routed into a spam folder of some kind. PM me for your password if you're having trouble, please.

 
Lots of you are not receiving the MFL invite. I'm assuming they're being routed into a spam folder of some kind. PM me for your password if you're having trouble, please.
Hi Jene,as u wrote in ur PM- i didnt got the MFL invitethis is my email (amitttamar@yahoo.com) and i also check in the spam folder and its not there.waiting for the Invite, Thanks - Amit
 
Was hoping for a little more research time but BRING.IT.ON

Thanks again for including me. This should be fun

 
i havent received any email notification from MFL, so i went thru each league until I found my team and I requested a login from MFL. timer indicates 9.5 hrs elapsed on Draft timer for BigPlay. hopefully i get the logon info and can make the 1.1 pick in next 2.5 hrs

 
It appears that the mfl invite issue is specific to those with yahoo email addresses. That likely means that draft status updates could be delayed too. Consider an alternate email address or please try to check into your leagues frequently if his affects you.

Thanks. :)

 
I thought I draft off-board. Aaron puts me to shame with MJD #1 overall in Balance 1. Ballsy!
It's risky, but I like his schedule a little better than CJ during the first 8 weeks. Due to the earlier bye weeks, Peterson and Rice really weren't options for me there.I think MJD has the higher floor and probably a similar ceiling in this format. Plus, I already have CJ in a few other leagues so I was open to the idea of hedging a bit and MJD seemed like a pretty solid alternative.
 
I thought I draft off-board. Aaron puts me to shame with MJD #1 overall in Balance 1. Ballsy!
It's risky, but I like his schedule a little better than CJ during the first 8 weeks. Due to the earlier bye weeks, Peterson and Rice really weren't options for me there.I think MJD has the higher floor and probably a similar ceiling in this format. Plus, I already have CJ in a few other leagues so I was open to the idea of hedging a bit and MJD seemed like a pretty solid alternative.
I'm all about taking taking risks and calculated chances in a scramble like this. It makes it all that much more fun trying to counter with your next move. :thumbup:
 
Rivers before Rodgers was a real head scratcher for me too. I bet the guy seeing him fall into the second round was quite happy.

 
jsharlan said:
Rivers before Rodgers was a real head scratcher for me too. I bet the guy seeing him fall into the second round was quite happy.
I first thought it was a mistake... :-) but you never know....Floyd and Nanee might have the season of a lifetime...
 
well decided to nab Gates in the 4th I think he will have close to 100 REC because Rivers will learn real quick that he lost jackson and he will go to ole faithful GATES!!!!!!

 
therokie0070 said:
well decided to nab Gates in the 4th I think he will have close to 100 REC because Rivers will learn real quick that he lost jackson and he will go to ole faithful GATES!!!!!!
I did the same thing in Balanced 2, Gates is in for a monster season if his remains healthy
 
therokie0070 said:
well decided to nab Gates in the 4th I think he will have close to 100 REC because Rivers will learn real quick that he lost jackson and he will go to ole faithful GATES!!!!!!
I did the same thing in Balanced 2, Gates is in for a monster season if his remains healthy
You guys are crazy! Craig Davis will have 80 Receptions this year.... :confused:
 
crazy draft allen cole and williams all first IDP behind willis who was drafted on the first 3rd round pick!!! I love landing Beason as the 5 IDP drafted in the 6th round!!!!

 
When I won this thing last year I really felt like I winged a lot of my picks. I'm not fooling myself into believing that Lady Luck wasn't buckled-down riding shot gun next to your boy. This year I've embraced that concept, maybe too much. I broke my first rule of drafting in never taking a QB in the first round. I just could not, in the moment, pass up on Fantasy's #1 ranked player with an after-season bye week.

As my draft went along it looks like I was drafting off of rankings from last year. D-Will, Forte, Welker, Slaton and Bowe. I'm sure none of this is going to bode well for me. I've sat back and just taken Offense since the blue chip defensive players have already come off the board. No use into forcing things there. The damage is done. Last year I jumped on Patrick Willis pretty quick (6th round), but this year they went sooner than I was willing to take them. I probably wrote them off too soon, with my chances to win this damn thing.

However, I also believe this thing is won in rounds 15-30, so there's still a lot of hope. Getting bargains on guys who can be used in a best ball format is often overlooked. I'm not ready to call out names yet, as to not taint the drafts, but having a WR who is capable of two long TD's in a game is immeasurable. Ok, Devery Henderson - I'm looking at you. :porked:

Good luck to everyone going forward, this is always one of the more fun drafts I'm apart of each year.

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1.10 	10. 	obxlegends 	Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB	2.03 	15. 	obxlegends 	Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB	3.10 	34. 	obxlegends 	Welker, Wes NEP WR	4.03 	39. 	obxlegends 	Forte, Matt CHI RB	5.10 	58. 	obxlegends 	Harrison, Jerome CLE RB	6.03 	63. 	obxlegends 	Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR	7.10 	82. 	obxlegends 	Winslow, Kellen TBB TE	8.03 	87. 	obxlegends 	Houshmandzadeh, T.J. SEA WR	9.10 	106. 	obxlegends 	Slaton, Steve HOU RB	10.03 111.	obxlegends 	Jackson, Vincent SDC WR
 
Balanced 1- 4 picks today total

The other 3- more than 20 picks today in each league

:thumbup:

I figured we would roll through the picks quickly on the weekend.

 
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Balanced 1- 4 picks today totalThe other 3- more than 20 picks today in each league :bag:I figured we would roll through the picks quickly on the weekend.
Wasn't this suppose to be fun.
Are you not having fun?
One thing that does bother me is when everyone is checking the site every 4 to 6 hours and ONE GUY checks in every 14 hours..... :banned:
I have the draft page as one of my 'favorites', and have that up most of the time while rarely going to the home page. You don't have to "check in" to see how and where the draft is going.
 
I certainly understand that it's frustrating when you're itching for the pace and flow of the draft to be relatively quick. Still, this Forum has long prided itself on being cool with just about any situation that's thrown its way.

With that in mind, I'd like to see two things as we move forward with this draft.

1. Whenever possible, we should be making an effort to be considerate of the draft as a whole. If you'll be away for awhile or know that you've got a scheduling issue and will be out of contact for a few hours, post something on the board. It helps those who have the time to check the site every hour from getting frustrated, especially when their pick is near and they'd rather make the pick quickly after seeing how the board falls then pre-draft.

2. Give each other a break. The drafts will finish. This is a cool contest with lots of good people drafting. I don't think anyone is intentionally going out of their way to leave a draft hanging. Frustrated or not with the pace of the draft, I'd like to see (and hear) the tone of the chat windows, league thread and PMs get a lot friendlier here.

Bust people's balls for an unexpected pick or disappearing for a bit, but do it in good fun. This place is one of the best outlets on the internet to talk football and I'd like us to get back to that example -- on both sides of this issue.

Let's chill out a bit, get pumped for camp practice and preseason game talk and make sure we're being considerate of the drafts.

That way, I won't have to pull the car over and, well, you know...

:sleep:

 
I always notice that guy will be online and on deck 1 pick away, then the pick will be made at 7pm for example, the guy on deck was online at 6:55pm and didn't predraft, then 9pm rolls around and that guy is still not around, a couple hours wasted. It's still annoying but at this point after all these years I almost think this is the norm unfortunately. I didn't realize all the other leagues were going so quickly, for those interested in the other leagues we are in round 6 in balanced 1, where are you guys from other leagues at right now?

 
I always notice that guy will be online and on deck 1 pick away, then the pick will be made at 7pm for example, the guy on deck was online at 6:55pm and didn't predraft, then 9pm rolls around and that guy is still not around, a couple hours wasted. It's still annoying but at this point after all these years I almost think this is the norm unfortunately. I didn't realize all the other leagues were going so quickly, for those interested in the other leagues we are in round 6 in balanced 1, where are you guys from other leagues at right now?
Big Play 14.10Balanced 1 6.10Balanced 2 14.09Tackle 12.05The pace of every league but Bal1 has been very strong as a whole, but there have been some very long pauses interspersed with runs of predrafting in each of the others.
 
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I haven't been following the other leagues too closely but jumped over to Balanced 1 and saw Derrick Mason go off the board at 6.10 WR26.....in Balanced 2 I managed to snag him at 12.06, WR39.

 
I certainly understand that it's frustrating when you're itching for the pace and flow of the draft to be relatively quick. Still, this Forum has long prided itself on being cool with just about any situation that's thrown its way.

With that in mind, I'd like to see two things as we move forward with this draft.

1. Whenever possible, we should be making an effort to be considerate of the draft as a whole. If you'll be away for awhile or know that you've got a scheduling issue and will be out of contact for a few hours, post something on the board. It helps those who have the time to check the site every hour from getting frustrated, especially when their pick is near and they'd rather make the pick quickly after seeing how the board falls then pre-draft.

2. Give each other a break. The drafts will finish. This is a cool contest with lots of good people drafting. I don't think anyone is intentionally going out of their way to leave a draft hanging. Frustrated or not with the pace of the draft, I'd like to see (and hear) the tone of the chat windows, league thread and PMs get a lot friendlier here.

Bust people's balls for an unexpected pick or disappearing for a bit, but do it in good fun. This place is one of the best outlets on the internet to talk football and I'd like us to get back to that example -- on both sides of this issue.

Let's chill out a bit, get pumped for camp practice and preseason game talk and make sure we're being considerate of the drafts.

That way, I won't have to pull the car over and, well, you know...

:popcorn:
Next year... for the love of God... can you give everybody more prep time. Announce a couple weeks earlier. Its not like its the simpleton-offense only method used in the shark pool.
Be like me and just do things on the fly and hope and pray :bag: Preparation. I hate that time
 
To the tackle heavy league I would like to to say sorry I have been so slow!!! since the draft started my wife had to go to the emergency and I got orders to go to pakistan for a year!!! So to all those owners who are being patient and not freaking out thank you and to the ones like ysatnaf chill the hell out!!!!!

 
To the tackle heavy league I would like to to say sorry I have been so slow!!! since the draft started my wife had to go to the emergency and I got orders to go to pakistan for a year!!! So to all those owners who are being patient and not freaking out thank you and to the ones like ysatnaf chill the hell out!!!!!
Apology accepted! :lmao: Can we move on to Football now?ap ka safr acha guzrae!
 
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I thought I draft off-board. Aaron puts me to shame with MJD #1 overall in Balance 1. Ballsy!
Ballsy. Try Charles Woodson at the 1.9 in Big Play. Wowsers
After carefully considering the consequences, I did this deed.....not only that (after after carefully considering the consequences again) I sprung for Pollard, Bernard S-HOU at the 2.04.Now I know that this rides against conventional wisdom, as in "that's not the way we do this" sport.

My reasoning was as follows:

1) All these guys are gonna break a leg,

2) The biggest "*Delta" to be had (the largest point spread/game between the top ranked and the next guy at the same position) was in those two players....that's the largest delta's for any two players at any position in the draft.

Thus, no matter what, I was picking the two players with the largest point spread/position/game in the draft.

*Delta is where you find it. To get an accurate number sort for Pollard (who broke into the starting lineup in HOU after their bye week #10), the sort is Week 10 to Week 17 where Pollard is an astounding 6 points/game better than the next guy (Dawkins) for the last half of the season.

Now, the net effect was at RB where Bush (M), Fred Jackson and a couple of 30-40 rated RB's hold down the fort. The WR's didn't fair too badly as Steve Smith and Ochocinco were still hanging around in later rounds.

This isn't standard fare for these drafts but I get so tired of doing it the same way....all the time.

:thumbup:

 
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Well I think pollard is gold but I got him in the 9th and then went for Bell at 10, I feel Bell and Pollard are the few DB that can be considered locks for 90 solo tackles.

I did find it very intresting that people were drafting players like Jared Allen in the 5th round while players like Jon beason and DB like polard are still on the board, oh yeah this is a tackle heavy league!!!!

 
I dont like it Toads at all. DB is the most fluctuating position from year to year out of any. Pollard is not a good talent at all and could lose his job just as easy as keeping. Have not looked lately to see how your O filled up but I was happy with waiting till the 30th round to start grabbing S and CB(took them 35-38th round in a row). Really like my crew

Beason going behind Allen is surprising but DE is such a hard position to fill these days. There is jost so many 3-4 D's and finding them is hard to do.

 
therokie0070 said:
Well I think pollard is gold but I got him in the 9th and then went for Bell at 10, I feel Bell and Pollard are the few DB that can be considered locks for 90 solo tackles. I did find it very intresting that people were drafting players like Jared Allen in the 5th round while players like Jon beason and DB like polard are still on the board, oh yeah this is a tackle heavy league!!!!
4-3 DEs go at a premium because there just isn't enough of them to go around in a start 2 league.
 
I dont like it Toads at all. DB is the most fluctuating position from year to year out of any. Pollard is not a good talent at all and could lose his job just as easy as keeping. Have not looked lately to see how your O filled up but I was happy with waiting till the 30th round to start grabbing S and CB(took them 35-38th round in a row). Really like my crewBeason going behind Allen is surprising but DE is such a hard position to fill these days. There is jost so many 3-4 D's and finding them is hard to do.
What is this bizarro world you are living in where Pollard is even remotely close to losing his job?
 
After carefully considering the consequences, I did this deed.....not only that (after after carefully considering the consequences again) I sprung for Pollard, Bernard S-HOU at the 2.04.

Now I know that this rides against conventional wisdom, as in "that's not the way we do this" sport.

My reasoning was as follows:

1) All these guys are gonna break a leg,

2) The biggest "*Delta" to be had (the largest point spread/game between the top ranked and the next guy at the same position) was in those two players....that's the largest delta's for any two players at any position in the draft.

Thus, no matter what, I was picking the two players with the largest point spread/position/game in the draft.

*Delta is where you find it. To get an accurate number sort for Pollard (who broke into the starting lineup in HOU after their bye week #10), the sort is Week 10 to Week 17 where Pollard is an astounding 6 points/game better than the next guy (Dawkins) for the last half of the season.

Now, the net effect was at RB where Bush (M), Fred Jackson and a couple of 30-40 rated RB's hold down the fort. The WR's didn't fair too badly as Steve Smith and Ochocinco were still hanging around in later rounds.

This isn't standard fare for these drafts but I get so tired of doing it the same way....all the time.

:goodposting:
I applaud the well thought out response and conviction for your selections Toads. But the real issue your Delta theory fails to address is the fact you could have easily gotten both guys 2-3 rounds later. Likely even later than that.I wish you luck with your strategy. You may need it. :lmao:

 
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I dont like it Toads at all. DB is the most fluctuating position from year to year out of any. Pollard is not a good talent at all and could lose his job just as easy as keeping. Have not looked lately to see how your O filled up but I was happy with waiting till the 30th round to start grabbing S and CB(took them 35-38th round in a row). Really like my crewBeason going behind Allen is surprising but DE is such a hard position to fill these days. There is jost so many 3-4 D's and finding them is hard to do.
What is this bizarro world you are living in where Pollard is even remotely close to losing his job?
The same bizarro would where he was actually cut last season.
 
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