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2011 AL Most Valuable Player Winner (1 Viewer)
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Beating out Ellsbury is the best part. 
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
People who should have their MVP-voting privileges revoked:1) Evan GrantWho knew Michael Young had a MVP ballot
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Disgraceful.
But the story here is less the joke that Verlander won and the fact that Ellsbury finished second.
After that meltdown?
Come on now.
I won't even get started on Grandy finishing 4th.
I hope the Yanks blow their payroll out to 250 million. There is such obvious bias in the baseball community against them, they might as well wear the black hat.
But the story here is less the joke that Verlander won and the fact that Ellsbury finished second.
After that meltdown?
Come on now.
I won't even get started on Grandy finishing 4th.
I hope the Yanks blow their payroll out to 250 million. There is such obvious bias in the baseball community against them, they might as well wear the black hat.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
M-V-P!
M-V-P!
M-V-P!
M-V-P!
M-V-P!
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Good, hitters have their own award.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Spoken like a true member of the Dark Side...
Doctor Detroit
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Premier
Footballguy
Hasn't their payroll been 250 before?Everybody hates the Yankees and most everybody hates the Red Sox. That's what you have to expect when you spend 2-3 times more than the average team.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Read that he also left Pedroia off his ballot in 2008.People who should have their MVP-voting privileges revoked:1) Evan GrantWho knew Michael Young had a MVP ballot
Eephus
Footballguy
Read that he also left Pedroia off his ballot in 2008.People who should have their MVP-voting privileges revoked:1) Evan GrantWho knew Michael Young had a MVP ballot
I'm not a DH hater but it's a stretch to call it a key lineup spot when attempting to justify your MVP ballot.
Bogart
Footballguy
Who knew Michael Young had a MVP ballot
People who should have their MVP-voting privileges revoked:1) Evan GrantWho knew Michael Young had a MVP ballot
Most Valuable Player on the AL Champion club. Played 159 games, played 5 different positions, was the glue as everyone else dealt with injuries and the like. 3rd in BA. 5th in RBI. Yeah, Grant has some homer shtick going on there, but I would like to see all of the ballots of the other writers. I'm sure you will see tons of voting like that.
Bogart
Footballguy
He means the key lineup spots of 3-4-5.Read that he also left Pedroia off his ballot in 2008.People who should have their MVP-voting privileges revoked:1) Evan GrantWho knew Michael Young had a MVP ballotI'm not a DH hater but it's a stretch to call it a key lineup spot when attempting to justify your MVP ballot.
the moops
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
with 106 RBI and 88 runs scored.Young and the Rangers both had nice years and there have been past seasons where a 1st place MVP vote for him wouldn't have been ridiculous. But this wasn't one of those years.He means the key lineup spots of 3-4-5.Read that he also left Pedroia off his ballot in 2008.People who should have their MVP-voting privileges revoked:1) Evan GrantWho knew Michael Young had a MVP ballotI'm not a DH hater but it's a stretch to call it a key lineup spot when attempting to justify your MVP ballot.
the moops
Footballguy
I have no problem with Verlander winning, but man, some of these writers are idiots.
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Player, Team 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th PointsJustin Verlander, Detroit Tigers 13 3 3 4 1 2 1 280Jacoby Ellsbury, Boston Red Sox 4 13 4 1 4 1 1 242Jose Bautista, Toronto Blue Jays 5 7 4 4 4 1 1 1 1 231Curtis Granderson, New York Yankees 3 4 4 8 6 1 2 215Miguel Cabrera, Detroit Tigers 2 9 5 5 2 4 1 193Robinson Cano, New York Yankees 2 2 3 6 4 5 1 1 112Adrian Gonzalez, Boston Red Sox 1 1 2 6 8 3 3 1 105Michael Young, Texas Rangers 1 1 1 1 1 1 4 7 4 2 96Dustin Pedroia, Boston Red Sox 4 1 4 6 48Evan Longoria, Tampa Bay Rays 2 1 2 3 27Ian Kinsler, Texas Rangers 1 2 1 1 1 25Alex Avila, Detroit Tigers 1 1 2 2 13Paul Konerko, Chicago White Sox 5 1 11CC Sabathia, New York Yankees 2 10Adrian Beltre, Texas Rangers 2 1 1 9Ben Zobrist, Tampa Bay Rays 1 1 7Victor Martinez, Detroit Tigers 1 1 2 7James Shields, Tampa Bay Rays 1 5 7Mark Teixeira, New York Yankees 1 1 5Asdrubal Cabrera, Cleveland Indians 1 2 4Alex Gordon, Kansas City Royals 3 3Josh Hamilton, Texas Rangers 1 1David Robertson, New York Yankees 1 1Smack Tripper
Footballguy
I know, I'm ready to embrace it. Get me Darvish, stat.
the moops
Footballguy
I'm not sure he easily had the best season. But yes, he shouldn't have been left off anyones ballot. Just as Robertson shouldn't have gotten a 10th place vote (nor should have Ellsbury finished that low on anyone's either).
Doctor Detroit
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M-V-P! M-V-P!'Doctor Detroit said:
M-V-P!
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
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igbomb
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Gopher State
Footballguy
Justin Verlander he should ask the tigers for a new contract
Doctor Detroit
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He's making $12 million next year then $20 million in each of the following three years. It's not like he's playing at a deep discount going forward.
Silly Gopher fans....He just signed one last year.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
But it's not like the guy said Verlander shouldn't be an MVP candidate.:boatloads:
Doctor Detroit
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Isn't MPV an std?But it's not like the guy said Verlander shouldn't be an MVP candidate.:boatloads:
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
It figures that the dolt who left him off the ballot is from Ohio.
igbomb
Footballguy
The $20 million actually starts in this next season. That's one of the reasons that payroll will be just as high as 2011 before signing anyone else. Between JV and the arbitration raises due DY and Porcello, the bad contracts dropping off don't really give any more flexibility. Of course it is nice that the only bad contract on the books is now Inge, and his isn't all that high (though it's still bad).
Players voted Verlander MLB Outstanding Player of the Year. So the people who play and know everyone seems to think Verlander had the best year of anyone.
As far as purity goes, Pitchers have been winning MVP awards since the beginning and have won their fair share over the years. Changing that now makes the award less pure from a traditionalist perspective.
As far as purity goes, Pitchers have been winning MVP awards since the beginning and have won their fair share over the years. Changing that now makes the award less pure from a traditionalist perspective.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Seems to me he won largely because he had 24 wins and he had 24 wins lagely because of the crappy division he's in.
the moops
Footballguy
Meh. Players can be idiots when it comes to this sort of thing.I'm sure up to last year or so MLB players would have voted Derek Jeter as the best SS in the game.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Don't know the guys name but he is a writer from Ohio.........guess the Buckeye/Michigander fued is alive and well..................but the guy should have his vote yanked
oso diablo
Footballguy
enjoyed this tweet from one Old Hoss Radbourn...
if you're on twitter, he's worth a follow
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yes, having the best ERA & strikeouts in the AL to complete the pitching triple crown and throwing a no-hitter had nothing to do with it.
Doctor Detroit
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He forgot 16 losing streaks stopped which is the most since Sandy Koufax did it in 1965. He also threw more pitches than any other pitcher in baseball, 19 starts into the 8th inning and hitters had a .555 OPS against him. He also had a .92 WHIP, the best AL raw number since 2000 Pedro and the second best AL raw number since 1972.The more you know...
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
He was a compiler in the American League's JV division.We saw what he did against real competition in the postseason.
Eephus
Footballguy
I get that Verlander had a good year but stopping 16 losing streaks is as much a reflection on the quality of the back end of Detroit's rotation as anything else
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
What he did or did not do in the postseason is not relevant for this award.
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oso diablo
Footballguy
Old Hoss is pure schtick
Doctor Detroit
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Kind of the point I guess. In theory Brad Penny is more responsible for Verlander's MVP season than any one player on the Tigers roster.'Eephus said:
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
It must be noted that watching Brad Penny pitch is like watching old people screw.
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