2011, Let's Get it Started in Here! (1 Viewer)

[pizzatyme]

Let's get it going right now! Who do you see being the top 12 (1st Round of an FPC Draft) right now using FBG/FFPC FPC scoring?

Here is mine. Feel free to dissect and/or add yours:

1- ADP if they get him a QB

2- Foster maybe even #1 if they keep Kubiak

3- R. Rice

4- CJ needs a REAL QB and that doesn't mean VY

5- J. Charles

6- Andre Johnson

7- Calvin Johnson

8- Roddy White

9- MJD

10- Greg Jennings

11- R. Wayne

12- Fitz if they get him a QB

Honorable Mention:

Dez Bryant

J. Best

D. Bowe

F. Gore

DeAngelo Williams

S. Jackson

A. Gates

Thoughts?

 

[cvnpoka]

gates proly around 6-8.

 

[mquinnjr]

Vick must be in the top 12. He is a RB2 and QB 1/2 combined in one roster spot. Slam dunk he's gone in the top 12.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

Vick must be in the top 12. He is a RB2 and QB 1/2 combined in one roster spot. Slam dunk he's gone in the top 12.

Agreed.Vick will likely be a top 7 or 8 pick in most drafts.

 

[cvnpoka]

mccoy should be on there too. will only be 23 yrs old with no injury history and coming off an ~80 catch year on a potent offense.

 

[mquinnjr]

I hate tonight's game as a barometer since he was grossly under utilized, but I would love to have Shady on my team in 2011. The Birds need him to keep up/expand his opportunities for ground production to open up Vick and the passing game. He's proven to be more than capable, and I'm excited to see what he's going to be capable of in the years to come.

 

[J-Dawg]

1. Adrian Peterson

2. Maurice Jones-Drew

3. Aaron Rodgers

4. Chris Johnson

5. Michael Vick

6. Arian Foster

7. Calvin Johnson

8. Antonio Gates

9. Jamaal Charles

10. Andre Johnson

11. Jonathan Stewart

12. LeSean McCoy

 

[mquinnjr]

I 100% agree with this list. Maybe it's just my league structure (Non-PPR), and the position slots (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 WR/TE, 1 TE, 1 D/ST, 1 K, 6 Bench), but I never see the 1st round (or any round) go so all over the place position wise. Sorry if this is a separate thread discussion for draft strategy, but that's how I've seen the draft work in previous years. First 6-8 picks are RB, then you see someone near the end of the 1st round step up for a top QB. 2nd round QB dominates, mixed with RB's. 3rd round WR's, 4th round TE's. RB's mixed into each round depending on the team.

Will be interesting to see how a potential 18 game season and each league's playoffs would affect the draft as well.

 

[J-Dawg]

I 100% agree with this list. Maybe it's just my league structure (Non-PPR), and the position slots (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 WR/TE, 1 TE, 1 D/ST, 1 K, 6 Bench), but I never see the 1st round (or any round) go so all over the place position wise. Sorry if this is a separate thread discussion for draft strategy, but that's how I've seen the draft work in previous years. First 6-8 picks are RB, then you see someone near the end of the 1st round step up for a top QB. 2nd round QB dominates, mixed with RB's. 3rd round WR's, 4th round TE's. RB's mixed into each round depending on the team. Will be interesting to see how a potential 18 game season and each league's playoffs would affect the draft as well.

Not sure if you were agreeing with my list or not, but I was ranking based on who I think will be the top 12 point producers next year. My leagues are a lot like your's in terms of draft structure and what positions usually go where. This year I took Rodgers 5th in the 1st round after all the big 4 RBs were gone and was more than happy with the pick. I don't like when you feel compelled to take a position that has a run going on it even though you see them happen so often in leagues, especially with the first couple of rounds.

 

[mquinnjr]

Nah definitely agreeing with your list of top producers, I just thought you meant that was a proposed 1st round order. We're on the same page. Jokingly, I was thinking if I saw a 1st round go like the one you listed, I'd be real afraid for what the WW/rest of the season would be like.

 

[mquinnjr]

Yeah I went Ray Rice, Schaub, White, Gates (4th Overall in Draft Order) in my draft for rounds 1-4. Ended up with Vick off the WW, but those guys (when healthy) treated me very well this year. I love to spread my picks over to the best possible position players for each position. That's what gets you over the top each week vs. a team with a bunch of good RB's and weaknesses at other positions at the expense of an army of strong RB's, and also spreads your risk over multiple positions/minimizes it IMHO. Got me to 2nd overall this year. Had I not over-managed I'd have won, but that's a whole other story for another thread.

Nothing better than the feeling when guys are loading up on RB's when you go, "Gates" in round 4 and you get the "Oohhh/Oh s***" reaction as you're the first person to start off that respective position.

 

[glong989]

Let's get it going right now! Who do you see being the top 12 right now using FBG/FFPC FPC scoring?Here is mine. Feel free to dissect and/or add yours:1- ADP if they get him a QB2- Foster maybe even #1 if they keep Kubiak3- R. Rice4- CJ needs a REAL QB and that doesn't mean VY5- J. Charles6- Andre Johnson7- Calvin Johnson8- Roddy White9- MJD10- Greg Jennings11- R. Wayne12- Fitz if they get him a QBHonorable Mentionez BryantJ. BestD. BoweF. GoreDeAngelo WilliamsS. JacksonA. GatesThoughts?

Don't see Jennings performing the same as he did with Finley out. I also think they run the ball a bit more if Grant can stay healthy, although this could open up more deep balls for him through play action.I also see Wayne dropping off some once they have their full roster healthy as well as another year of aging. Peyton has always spread the ball around, but now he has quality in Collie, Clark, Wayne, and Garcon..not to mention Gonzales and even White. Also don't see Rice ever producing like he did in 09. He's still a good player, but not a top fantasy back IMO.Also, unless I am totally off base with the scoring system, I don't see how there are not a few QBs in there. In my league with 4 pt passing TDs there are 6 QBs in the top 10 scoring players.I'll throw one guy out there that could be a wild card top 10 guy and that's Deangelo Williams if he leaves Carolina and lands in a favorable situation..

 

[mquinnjr]

Let's get it going right now! Who do you see being the top 12 right now using FBG/FFPC FPC scoring?

Here is mine. Feel free to dissect and/or add yours:

1- ADP if they get him a QB

2- Foster maybe even #1 if they keep Kubiak

3- R. Rice

4- CJ needs a REAL QB and that doesn't mean VY

5- J. Charles

6- Andre Johnson

7- Calvin Johnson

8- Roddy White

9- MJD

10- Greg Jennings

11- R. Wayne

12- Fitz if they get him a QB

Honorable Mention:

Dez Bryant

J. Best

D. Bowe

F. Gore

DeAngelo Williams

S. Jackson

A. Gates

Thoughts?

Don't see Jennings performing the same as he did with Finley out. I also see Wayne dropping off some once they have their full roster healthy as well as another year of aging. Peyton has always spread the ball around, but now he has quality in Collie, Clark, Wayne, and Garcon..not to mention Gonzales and even White.

Also don't see Rice ever producing like he did in 09. He's still a good player, but not a top fantasy back IMO.

Also, unless I am totally off base with the scoring system, I don't see how there are not a few QBs in there. In my league with 4 pt passing TDs there are 6 QBs in the top 10 scoring players..

I have to agree on Ray Rice. In non-PPR (which is where I drafted him), he was a help in some weeks (especially Week 15 semi-final), but was not the monster I was expecting week in, week out at the #4 position. From the guys you mentioned, barring permanent brain damage (which is a serious concern from what I've seen/read), Austin Collie has to be near the top of the list. If he can stay healthy, which is a major concern, Manning loves him. He's top 5-10 upside wise if he can stay healthy. With the health doubt, he's someone I definitely draft later rounds if available as a sneaky play and hope for the best.

 

[dickey moe]

Let's get it going right now! Who do you see being the top 12 right now using FBG/FFPC FPC scoring?Here is mine. Feel free to dissect and/or add yours:1- ADP if they get him a QB2- Foster maybe even #1 if they keep Kubiak3- R. Rice4- CJ needs a REAL QB and that doesn't mean VY5- J. Charles6- Andre Johnson7- Calvin Johnson8- Roddy White9- MJD10- Greg Jennings11- R. Wayne12- Fitz if they get him a QBHonorable Mentionez BryantJ. BestD. BoweF. GoreDeAngelo WilliamsS. JacksonA. GatesThoughts?

Don't see Jennings performing the same as he did with Finley out. I also think they run the ball a bit more if Grant can stay healthy, although this could open up more deep balls for him through play action.I also see Wayne dropping off some once they have their full roster healthy as well as another year of aging. Peyton has always spread the ball around, but now he has quality in Collie, Clark, Wayne, and Garcon..not to mention Gonzales and even White. Also don't see Rice ever producing like he did in 09. He's still a good player, but not a top fantasy back IMO.

He's a Top 10 back (Top 5 in some PPR leagues) in what most owners would consider a disappointing year. This, and his goal line carry opportunities are likely to increase next season if McGahee is gone. Rice is undoubtedly a First Round pick in PPR leagues.

 

[glong989]

Let's get it going right now! Who do you see being the top 12 right now using FBG/FFPC FPC scoring?Here is mine. Feel free to dissect and/or add yours:1- ADP if they get him a QB2- Foster maybe even #1 if they keep Kubiak3- R. Rice4- CJ needs a REAL QB and that doesn't mean VY5- J. Charles6- Andre Johnson7- Calvin Johnson8- Roddy White9- MJD10- Greg Jennings11- R. Wayne12- Fitz if they get him a QBHonorable Mentionez BryantJ. BestD. BoweF. GoreDeAngelo WilliamsS. JacksonA. GatesThoughts?

Don't see Jennings performing the same as he did with Finley out. I also think they run the ball a bit more if Grant can stay healthy, although this could open up more deep balls for him through play action.I also see Wayne dropping off some once they have their full roster healthy as well as another year of aging. Peyton has always spread the ball around, but now he has quality in Collie, Clark, Wayne, and Garcon..not to mention Gonzales and even White. Also don't see Rice ever producing like he did in 09. He's still a good player, but not a top fantasy back IMO.

He's a Top 10 back (Top 5 in some PPR leagues) in what most owners would consider a disappointing year. This, and his goal line carry opportunities are likely to increase next season if McGahee is gone. Rice is undoubtedly a First Round pick in PPR leagues.

I don't disagree..he is a great back still and will likely be gone in the first. However, this is about who will be the top 12 producers over all positions and I doubt he achieves that status..

 

[pizzatyme]

I edited to OP to say Top 12 (1st Round of an FPC Draft) if it were held today...

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[mquinnjr]

I edited to OP to say Top 12 (1st Round of an FPC Draft) if it were held today...Sorry for the confusion.

No sweat man, this thread was inevitable. Glad you were the catalyst!

 

[Kevrunner]

Vick must be in the top 12. He is a RB2 and QB 1/2 combined in one roster spot. Slam dunk he's gone in the top 12.

Vick does deserve to be picked early but I will pass on him next year in the 1st round only because of his higher risk of injury due to his running, he is not getting younger and it is only going to get harder and harder to absord the punishment he is going to take (tonight's game was pretty brutal for him physically). I would grab him in the 2nd round but he will be long gone by then. Here is my list of 12:APFosterCharlesMcCoyCJMJDAJRoddy WhiteCalvin JohnsonR. RiceA. RodgersStewart (I think next year is going to be huge for him)

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Vick's rushing makes him a first-round pick imo. If you throw out the injury argument (anyone can get hurt, but teams like to give Vick a little extra) he's such an asset to have it would be hard to turn him away in the first round.

I prefer total points, but in h2h he's even more valuable. He'll have four "win your game by himself" games and his "dud" games should still be pretty solid (like against the Vikings).

Believe me, I wasn't a believer in Vick. But he kept his play up the whole season. Not sure I could pass him up if I picked in the middle of the first.