2012 fantsy rankings (1 Viewer)

[Bracie Smathers]

compiled by Mathew Berry FWIW. I'm sure people will have some things to say about this list.

Grist for the mill.

Only posting his top twenty-five with comments and next twenty-five sans comments. You will have to go to link for the remainder of his top-100.

First look at 2012 fantasy football ranks

My link

By Matthew Berry

ESPN.com

1. Aaron Rodgers, QB -- Money in the bank.

2. Drew Brees , QB -- The other branch of said bank.

3. Ray Rice, RB -- You could make an argument for any of the next four RBs. I went Rice because there are no health issues, his value isn't touchdown dependent and this year, he added the touchdowns.

4. Arian Foster, RB

5. LeSean McCoy, RB

6. Maurice Jones-Drew, RB

7. Calvin Johnson, WR

8. Tom Brady, QB -- Remember when Tom threw 50 touchdown passes? His offensive coordinator that year was … Josh McDaniels.

9. Rob Gronkowski, TE -- And this is where it got ugly for me. You can poke a hole in any player ranked from this point on. Here's why I went Gronk: Take away every single touchdown he scored this year -- all 17 of them -- and he still finishes with 132 fantasy points, making him the second-highest-scoring tight end this year. He had 124 targets and is a matchup nightmare for any defense; this all goes back to my elite QBs and TEs theory.

10. Matthew Stafford, QB

11. Marshawn Lynch, RB -- He's just 25. This ranking will change if he leaves Seattle, but he's a young player with an improving offensive line that will be a lot healthier next year and a coach that likes to run. Also, no committee. But again, so many question marks with the health of other guys here.

12. Larry Fitzgerald, WR

13. Cam Newton, QB -- I expect the rushing touchdowns to come down, but still. Imagine when he has a full training camp.

14. Chris Johnson, RB -- I think he returns to stud but not "Oh, damn, watch out" levels.

15. Matt Forte, RB -- Seemed like his injury was the least worrisome of the all the big-name guys.

16. Jimmy Graham, TE -- Had 149 targets; another matchup nightmare who, like Gronk, is young and -- scary thought -- still learning.

17. Roddy White, WR -- For all the Julio talk (and yes, Jones did miss games), White had 181 targets.

18. Wes Welker, WR

19. Andre Johnson, WR -- Depth of position and health concerns keep him this low.

20. Greg Jennings, WR

21. Jamaal Charles, RB -- At least he was injured early on.

22. Hakeem Nicks, WR

23. A.J. Green, WR

24. Ryan Mathews, RB

25. Victor Cruz, WR -- I went Nicks over Cruz and Jennings over Jordy based on track record, but they're all studs.

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26. Steven Jackson, RB

27. Jordy Nelson, WR

28. Michael Vick, QB --

29. Percy Harvin, WR --

30. Frank Gore, RB

31. Marques Colston, WR

32. Brandon Marshall, WR

33. DeMarco Murray, RB

34. Antonio Gates, TE

35. Tony Romo, QB

36. Steve Smith, WR, Panthers

37. Vincent Jackson, WR

38. Michael Turner, RB --

39. Adrian Peterson, RB --

40. Fred Jackson, RB

41. Darren McFadden, RB

42. Ahmad Bradshaw, RB

43. Reggie Bush, RB

44. Mike Wallace, WR --

45. Miles Austin, WR

46. Dez Bryant, WR --

47. Julio Jones, WR

48. Roy Helu, RB

49. Brandon Lloyd, WR --

50. Beanie Wells, RB

 

[eakfootball]

All the QBs ahead of Cam are too high.

 

[eakfootball]

And there's no way Roddy should be ahead of Welker.

 

[Shane Falco]

All the QBs are too high.

 

[yellowdog]

And there's no way Roddy should be ahead of Welker.

#17

 

[johnadams]

McFadden is laughable at 41. I get downgrading him due to injury concerns, but that's totally ridiculous. It's these kind of things that reduce credibility.

 

[Bayhawks]

McFadden is laughable at 41. I get downgrading him due to injury concerns, but that's totally ridiculous. It's these kind of things that reduce credibility.

It's too high, but it's not "laughable." McFadden should be maybe 10 spots higher (and only 1-2 RBs higher). He is the 16th RB on the list. He had one season when he finished in the top-10 for FF RBs. His best finish other than that year was in the 30's. He has NEVER played a full NFL season.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

And there's no way Roddy should be ahead of Welker.

I have more of a problem with white being 30 spots ahead of Julio. I'll take Julio in the late 4th over white in the 2nd all day

 

[Skeletore Eh]

And I can't imagine the rbs from 40 on other than DMC going ahead of Richardson

And I'm sure there's more than just those 5

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

McFadden is laughable at 41. I get downgrading him due to injury concerns, but that's totally ridiculous. It's these kind of things that reduce credibility.

It's too high, but it's not "laughable." McFadden should be maybe 10 spots higher (and only 1-2 RBs higher). He is the 16th RB on the list. He had one season when he finished in the top-10 for FF RBs. His best finish other than that year was in the 30's. He has NEVER played a full NFL season.

I woudlnt touch Mcfadden unless it was super value.The injury concerns are real, he has yet to play a full 16 games. Im wondering if he ever will

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

McFadden is laughable at 41. I get downgrading him due to injury concerns, but that's totally ridiculous. It's these kind of things that reduce credibility.

It's too high, but it's not "laughable." McFadden should be maybe 10 spots higher (and only 1-2 RBs higher). He is the 16th RB on the list. He had one season when he finished in the top-10 for FF RBs. His best finish other than that year was in the 30's. He has NEVER played a full NFL season.

In 2008, McFadden made it to 77 touches before he had to sit out 3 games due to injury. He had 65 touches to finish out the season.2009? He made it to 54 before sitting out 4 games. He had 71 the rest of the season.2010? Got to 101 before missing two games. After that he made it to 89 before missing a half of a game due to injury. Then had 80 more before missing a week.2011? After 132 touches he was forced to miss the final 9 games.Feeling lucky next year? Think his new coach is gonna look at that and say there's my workhorse?

 

[FUBAR]

I could be wrong, but I think Fred Jackson is too high.

Spiller is the new guy to have there.

 

[dickey moe]

All the QBs are too high.

Depends on the league scoring. If it's a 6PT/passing TD, then Rodgers and Brees are obvious #1 and #2 choices (which is exactly where each finished up in my dynasty league this year).

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

McFadden is laughable at 41. I get downgrading him due to injury concerns, but that's totally ridiculous. It's these kind of things that reduce credibility.

It's too high, but it's not "laughable." McFadden should be maybe 10 spots higher (and only 1-2 RBs higher). He is the 16th RB on the list. He had one season when he finished in the top-10 for FF RBs. His best finish other than that year was in the 30's. He has NEVER played a full NFL season.

I woudlnt touch Mcfadden unless it was super value.The injury concerns are real, he has yet to play a full 16 games. Im wondering if he ever will

McFadden is laughable at 41. I get downgrading him due to injury concerns, but that's totally ridiculous. It's these kind of things that reduce credibility.

It's too high, but it's not "laughable." McFadden should be maybe 10 spots higher (and only 1-2 RBs higher). He is the 16th RB on the list. He had one season when he finished in the top-10 for FF RBs. His best finish other than that year was in the 30's. He has NEVER played a full NFL season.

In 2008, McFadden made it to 77 touches before he had to sit out 3 games due to injury. He had 65 touches to finish out the season.2009? He made it to 54 before sitting out 4 games. He had 71 the rest of the season.2010? Got to 101 before missing two games. After that he made it to 89 before missing a half of a game due to injury. Then had 80 more before missing a week.2011? After 132 touches he was forced to miss the final 9 games.Feeling lucky next year? Think his new coach is gonna look at that and say there's my workhorse?

 

[Warrior]

5 QB's in the top 13? Yikes

Drew Brees @ number 2? Double yikes.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Adrian Peterson at 39?

 

[FUBAR]

Adrian Peterson at 39?

Might be low, but with his injury you can't deny the risk.

 

[Kenny Powers]

compiled by Mathew Berry FWIW. I'm sure people will have some things to say about this list.

9. Rob Gronkowski, TE -- And this is where it got ugly for me. You can poke a hole in any player ranked from this point on. Here's why I went Gronk: Take away every single touchdown he scored this year -- all 17 of them -- and he still finishes with 132 fantasy points, making him the second-highest-scoring tight end this year. He had 124 targets and is a matchup nightmare for any defense; this all goes back to my elite QBs and TEs theory.

10. Matthew Stafford, QB

11. Marshawn Lynch, RB -- He's just 25. This ranking will change if he leaves Seattle, but he's a young player with an improving offensive line that will be a lot healthier next year and a coach that likes to run. Also, no committee. But again, so many question marks with the health of other guys here.

13. Cam Newton, QB -- I expect the rushing touchdowns to come down, but still. Imagine when he has a full training camp.

15. Matt Forte, RB -- Seemed like his injury was the least worrisome of the all the big-name guys.

16. Jimmy Graham, TE -- Had 149 targets; another matchup nightmare who, like Gronk, is young and -- scary thought -- still learning.

17. Roddy White, WR -- For all the Julio talk (and yes, Jones did miss games), White had 181 targets.

25. Victor Cruz, WR -- I went Nicks over Cruz and Jennings over Jordy based on track record, but they're all studs.

26. Steven Jackson, RB

27. Jordy Nelson, WR

30. Frank Gore, RB

31. Marques Colston, WR

32. Brandon Marshall, WR

33. DeMarco Murray, RB

38. Michael Turner, RB --

42. Ahmad Bradshaw, RB

Talk about short term memory with how high and low these guys are.Too high - Gronk, Stafford, Lynch, Newton, Graham, Roddy, Cruz, Jordy, Colston, Marshall

Too low - Forte, SJax, Gore, Murray, Turner, Bradshaw.

...most of those RBs are so low its laughable.

 

[noneother]

I'd argue the OP said "dynasty", which IMO increases QB value, based on " FF points for a career"

Over the next 3-5 years I think I would take Rodgers and brees over most RBs...maybe all of em....

 

[Sienna2012]

Nothing wrong with the list, it is all subjective. I have the fourth pick in my leagues draft for 2012, and I know for sure, I am going to have a chance to get a stud rb out Rice, Mccoy or Foster. Because I know someone is going to take Rodgers or Brees with their first pick. Then I am going to grab a stud Wr and a Jimmy Graham or Gronk ( try to) and then maybe Stafford in the fourth if he is there. I wanna have one stud at each position. But hey, it just depends on how the draft goes. Basically, give me a Mccoy and Stafford over a Rodgers-Gore combination any day of the week. And the more I think about it, I probably will only go TE early or a QB not both.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Nothing wrong with the list, it is all subjective. I have the fourth pick in my leagues draft for 2012, and I know for sure, I am going to have a chance to get a stud rb out Rice, Mccoy or Foster. Because I know someone is going to take Rodgers or Brees with their first pick. Then I am going to grab a stud Wr and a Jimmy Graham or Gronk ( try to) and then maybe Stafford in the fourth if he is there. I wanna have one stud at each position. But hey, it just depends on how the draft goes. Basically, give me a Mccoy and Stafford over a Rodgers-Gore combination any day of the week. And the more I think about it, I probably will only go TE early or a QB not both.

Again, dont base your picks solely off last years stats. Berry's list is weighted so much by not only the year, but the last 6-8 weeks even more. Stafford in the 4th, really?! I loved taking him late this year, but I wont be thinking about him next year in the 4th-5th. Gronk or Graham in the 2nd? I like the positional advantage, but youre banking on the same numbers. Even with Gates best years, he never went higher than late 3rd.

 

[Phenix]

compiled by Mathew Berry FWIW. I'm sure people will have some things to say about this list.

9. Rob Gronkowski, TE -- And this is where it got ugly for me. You can poke a hole in any player ranked from this point on. Here's why I went Gronk: Take away every single touchdown he scored this year -- all 17 of them -- and he still finishes with 132 fantasy points, making him the second-highest-scoring tight end this year. He had 124 targets and is a matchup nightmare for any defense; this all goes back to my elite QBs and TEs theory.

10. Matthew Stafford, QB

11. Marshawn Lynch, RB -- He's just 25. This ranking will change if he leaves Seattle, but he's a young player with an improving offensive line that will be a lot healthier next year and a coach that likes to run. Also, no committee. But again, so many question marks with the health of other guys here.

13. Cam Newton, QB -- I expect the rushing touchdowns to come down, but still. Imagine when he has a full training camp.

15. Matt Forte, RB -- Seemed like his injury was the least worrisome of the all the big-name guys.

16. Jimmy Graham, TE -- Had 149 targets; another matchup nightmare who, like Gronk, is young and -- scary thought -- still learning.

17. Roddy White, WR -- For all the Julio talk (and yes, Jones did miss games), White had 181 targets.

25. Victor Cruz, WR -- I went Nicks over Cruz and Jennings over Jordy based on track record, but they're all studs.

26. Steven Jackson, RB

27. Jordy Nelson, WR

30. Frank Gore, RB

31. Marques Colston, WR

32. Brandon Marshall, WR

33. DeMarco Murray, RB

38. Michael Turner, RB --

42. Ahmad Bradshaw, RB

Talk about short term memory with how high and low these guys are.Too high - Gronk, Stafford, Lynch, Newton, Graham, Roddy, Cruz, Jordy, Colston, Marshall

Too low - Forte, SJax, Gore, Murray, Turner, Bradshaw.

...most of those RBs are so low its laughable.

Stafford (5000+ yards and 40+ Tds), Graham and Gronk (record breakers at TE), White (almost 200 targets), are too high?

Forte, Sjax, Gore, Murray, Turner and Bradshaw? Age or injury concern for everyone you mentioned, and they are too low?

Your remarks are laughable.

 

[Shane Falco]

Nothing wrong with the list, it is all subjective. I have the fourth pick in my leagues draft for 2012, and I know for sure, I am going to have a chance to get a stud rb out Rice, Mccoy or Foster. Because I know someone is going to take Rodgers or Brees with their first pick. Then I am going to grab a stud Wr and a Jimmy Graham or Gronk ( try to) and then maybe Stafford in the fourth if he is there. I wanna have one stud at each position. But hey, it just depends on how the draft goes. Basically, give me a Mccoy and Stafford over a Rodgers-Gore combination any day of the week. And the more I think about it, I probably will only go TE early or a QB not both.

Again, dont base your picks solely off last years stats. Berry's list is weighted so much by not only the year, but the last 6-8 weeks even more. Stafford in the 4th, really?! I loved taking him late this year, but I wont be thinking about him next year in the 4th-5th. Gronk or Graham in the 2nd? I like the positional advantage, but youre banking on the same numbers. Even with Gates best years, he never went higher than late 3rd.

Not correct. I saw him go mid to even early 2nd (2.04ish). I will not be shocked when Gronk and /or Graham are drafted in the 2nd round. People read and believe Berry.You should have said "Even with Gates best years, he shouldn't have went higher than late 3rd." But I'm not even sure I agree with that if I was picking early to mid 3rd. I just don't remember if any of those teams won championships

 

[Sienna2012]

Nothing wrong with the list, it is all subjective. I have the fourth pick in my leagues draft for 2012, and I know for sure, I am going to have a chance to get a stud rb out Rice, Mccoy or Foster. Because I know someone is going to take Rodgers or Brees with their first pick. Then I am going to grab a stud Wr and a Jimmy Graham or Gronk ( try to) and then maybe Stafford in the fourth if he is there. I wanna have one stud at each position. But hey, it just depends on how the draft goes. Basically, give me a Mccoy and Stafford over a Rodgers-Gore combination any day of the week. And the more I think about it, I probably will only go TE early or a QB not both.

Again, dont base your picks solely off last years stats. Berry's list is weighted so much by not only the year, but the last 6-8 weeks even more. Stafford in the 4th, really?! I loved taking him late this year, but I wont be thinking about him next year in the 4th-5th. Gronk or Graham in the 2nd? I like the positional advantage, but youre banking on the same numbers. Even with Gates best years, he never went higher than late 3rd.

I am thinking third for Graham. Id rather have him then Gronk. He puts up wide receiver numbers and is the only real TE on that team

 

[Kenny Powers]

compiled by Mathew Berry FWIW. I'm sure people will have some things to say about this list.

9. Rob Gronkowski, TE -- And this is where it got ugly for me. You can poke a hole in any player ranked from this point on. Here's why I went Gronk: Take away every single touchdown he scored this year -- all 17 of them -- and he still finishes with 132 fantasy points, making him the second-highest-scoring tight end this year. He had 124 targets and is a matchup nightmare for any defense; this all goes back to my elite QBs and TEs theory.

10. Matthew Stafford, QB

11. Marshawn Lynch, RB -- He's just 25. This ranking will change if he leaves Seattle, but he's a young player with an improving offensive line that will be a lot healthier next year and a coach that likes to run. Also, no committee. But again, so many question marks with the health of other guys here.

13. Cam Newton, QB -- I expect the rushing touchdowns to come down, but still. Imagine when he has a full training camp.

15. Matt Forte, RB -- Seemed like his injury was the least worrisome of the all the big-name guys.

16. Jimmy Graham, TE -- Had 149 targets; another matchup nightmare who, like Gronk, is young and -- scary thought -- still learning.

17. Roddy White, WR -- For all the Julio talk (and yes, Jones did miss games), White had 181 targets.

25. Victor Cruz, WR -- I went Nicks over Cruz and Jennings over Jordy based on track record, but they're all studs.

26. Steven Jackson, RB

27. Jordy Nelson, WR

30. Frank Gore, RB

31. Marques Colston, WR

32. Brandon Marshall, WR

33. DeMarco Murray, RB

38. Michael Turner, RB --

42. Ahmad Bradshaw, RB

Talk about short term memory with how high and low these guys are.Too high - Gronk, Stafford, Lynch, Newton, Graham, Roddy, Cruz, Jordy, Colston, Marshall

Too low - Forte, SJax, Gore, Murray, Turner, Bradshaw.

...most of those RBs are so low its laughable.

Stafford (5000+ yards and 40+ Tds), Graham and Gronk (record breakers at TE), White (almost 200 targets), are too high?

Forte, Sjax, Gore, Murray, Turner and Bradshaw? Age or injury concern for everyone you mentioned, and they are too low?

Your remarks are laughable.

Yes, I know what the players did this year. Where Berry has the aforementioned "highs" slotted he's basically prediciting/banking on duplication of 2011 numbers. I love Stafford, but I guarantee when we see FBG's projections next year, even those highest on Stafford wont have higher than roughly 4200/33. Gronk and Graham? Records are records for a reason, they dont get broken every year. Theyre clearly the top 2 TEs by a wide margin, but you really want to start off your draft with a TE in the 1st like Berry is advising?! Teams with these 3 guys won championships this year because they drafted them in round 8+. As for White, I dont play in leagues that get points for targets. He was a semi-bust 10 weeks into the season with only 3 TDs and 1 100yd game. I'll still have him in my top 10 WRs in all liklihood next year, but Im not taking him mid-2nd like Berry os saying.Doesnt everyone have injury concern??? MJD was an injury concern coming off microfracture surgery this year and was a top 3 RB. Turner and Gore didnt miss a game this year, SJax missed one. Forte was injury free for 3 years and having a great year this year. Murray I believe had a longterm injury as a frosh at OU, but had been injury free until the ankle this year. Despite missing 6 games essentially, Bradshaw was still a top 20 RB this year. He's the only one of these RBs I would downgrade to injury next year a little because it would seem like his foot is a weird situation with the pins at all.

It will be interesting to see where FBGs have these guys ranked next summer. I'll be very surprised if all those RB's arent top 30 picks, and the overvalued guys arent slotted 8-12 picks lower for the most part.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Nothing wrong with the list, it is all subjective. I have the fourth pick in my leagues draft for 2012, and I know for sure, I am going to have a chance to get a stud rb out Rice, Mccoy or Foster. Because I know someone is going to take Rodgers or Brees with their first pick. Then I am going to grab a stud Wr and a Jimmy Graham or Gronk ( try to) and then maybe Stafford in the fourth if he is there. I wanna have one stud at each position. But hey, it just depends on how the draft goes. Basically, give me a Mccoy and Stafford over a Rodgers-Gore combination any day of the week. And the more I think about it, I probably will only go TE early or a QB not both.

Again, dont base your picks solely off last years stats. Berry's list is weighted so much by not only the year, but the last 6-8 weeks even more. Stafford in the 4th, really?! I loved taking him late this year, but I wont be thinking about him next year in the 4th-5th. Gronk or Graham in the 2nd? I like the positional advantage, but youre banking on the same numbers. Even with Gates best years, he never went higher than late 3rd.

I am thinking third for Graham. Id rather have him then Gronk. He puts up wide receiver numbers and is the only real TE on that team

I think theyre a coin toss really, considering you probably can get Graham a round later, close value.The biggest value at TE I have a feeling might be Hernandez. I cant believe how quiet of a year he had ending up as TE3, and with missing 2 games as well. Same with Finley as this year was seemingly his floor (assuming he stays in GB). Both guys will probably be there in the 5th-6th.

 

[Bayhawks]

Yes, I know what the players did this year. Where Berry has the aforementioned "highs" slotted he's basically prediciting/banking on duplication of 2011 numbers. I love Stafford, but I guarantee when we see FBG's projections next year, even those highest on Stafford wont have higher than roughly 4200/33. Gronk and Graham? Records are records for a reason, they dont get broken every year. Theyre clearly the top 2 TEs by a wide margin, but you really want to start off your draft with a TE in the 1st like Berry is advising?! Teams with these 3 guys won championships this year because they drafted them in round 8+. As for White, I dont play in leagues that get points for targets. He was a semi-bust 10 weeks into the season with only 3 TDs and 1 100yd game. I'll still have him in my top 10 WRs in all liklihood next year, but Im not taking him mid-2nd like Berry os saying.

Doesnt everyone have injury concern??? MJD was an injury concern coming off microfracture surgery this year and was a top 3 RB. Turner and Gore didnt miss a game this year, SJax missed one. Forte was injury free for 3 years and having a great year this year. Murray I believe had a longterm injury as a frosh at OU, but had been injury free until the ankle this year. Despite missing 6 games essentially, Bradshaw was still a top 20 RB this year. He's the only one of these RBs I would downgrade to injury next year a little because it would seem like his foot is a weird situation with the pins at all.

It will be interesting to see where FBGs have these guys ranked next summer. I'll be very surprised if all those RB's arent top 30 picks, and the overvalued guys arent slotted 8-12 picks lower for the most part.

If I'm not mistaken, this is a rankings list, not a draft-order prediction/suggestion. Just because he has Gronkowski ranked 9th, doesn't mean you pick him with pick 9 of the first round.

 

[MNTom]

If Gronk was a WR with the stats he is putting up, there would be less questioning of the ranking. But since he is a TE, some seem to down grade him for that. Not only was Gronk the top TE, he had top 2 WR stats. Unless the Pats add another receiving threat, I see no reason that Gronk will not get 80-90 rec, 1000-1200 yards, and 12+ td's in 2012 at a minimum. I will take that any day for a late 1st to early 2nd round pick. Especially in TE mandatory leagues.

 

[Sienna2012]

If Gronk was a WR with the stats he is putting up, there would be less questioning of the ranking. But since he is a TE, some seem to down grade him for that. Not only was Gronk the top TE, he had top 2 WR stats. Unless the Pats add another receiving threat, I see no reason that Gronk will not get 80-90 rec, 1000-1200 yards, and 12+ td's in 2012 at a minimum. I will take that any day for a late 1st to early 2nd round pick. Especially in TE mandatory leagues.

Patriots are eyeing Brandon Lloyd as a number 2 receiver behind Welker, so that is may skew things, but not the number of TDS, I dont think. Who knows

 

[Kenny Powers]

Yes, I know what the players did this year. Where Berry has the aforementioned "highs" slotted he's basically prediciting/banking on duplication of 2011 numbers. I love Stafford, but I guarantee when we see FBG's projections next year, even those highest on Stafford wont have higher than roughly 4200/33. Gronk and Graham? Records are records for a reason, they dont get broken every year. Theyre clearly the top 2 TEs by a wide margin, but you really want to start off your draft with a TE in the 1st like Berry is advising?! Teams with these 3 guys won championships this year because they drafted them in round 8+. As for White, I dont play in leagues that get points for targets. He was a semi-bust 10 weeks into the season with only 3 TDs and 1 100yd game. I'll still have him in my top 10 WRs in all liklihood next year, but Im not taking him mid-2nd like Berry os saying.

Doesnt everyone have injury concern??? MJD was an injury concern coming off microfracture surgery this year and was a top 3 RB. Turner and Gore didnt miss a game this year, SJax missed one. Forte was injury free for 3 years and having a great year this year. Murray I believe had a longterm injury as a frosh at OU, but had been injury free until the ankle this year. Despite missing 6 games essentially, Bradshaw was still a top 20 RB this year. He's the only one of these RBs I would downgrade to injury next year a little because it would seem like his foot is a weird situation with the pins at all.

It will be interesting to see where FBGs have these guys ranked next summer. I'll be very surprised if all those RB's arent top 30 picks, and the overvalued guys arent slotted 8-12 picks lower for the most part.

If I'm not mistaken, this is a rankings list, not a draft-order prediction/suggestion. Just because he has Gronkowski ranked 9th, doesn't mean you pick him with pick 9 of the first round.

Well, at least for the top 25 picks, how isnt it a draft order suggestion? Youre taking BPA that early. Likely even the top 50 picks are pretty much the same guideline. In the back 50 of hsi top 100, I could see that argument because at that point youre trying to fill out your starters, but almost all the players I pointed out as overvalued were top 25 picks.Hell, after tonights game, Gronk probably will go first round. For anyone who wants to take him, cross your fingers he has an average game in his last one this year (whether that be next week or the SB).

 

[Gold Standard]

Matthew Berry is a clown.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Matthew Berry is a clown.

Berry is the new go-to replacement for guys who bought the FF magazine in August these days, and despite the ridiculousness, still more accurate I would assume because its more updated.

 

[Phenix]

compiled by Mathew Berry FWIW. I'm sure people will have some things to say about this list.

9. Rob Gronkowski, TE -- And this is where it got ugly for me. You can poke a hole in any player ranked from this point on. Here's why I went Gronk: Take away every single touchdown he scored this year -- all 17 of them -- and he still finishes with 132 fantasy points, making him the second-highest-scoring tight end this year. He had 124 targets and is a matchup nightmare for any defense; this all goes back to my elite QBs and TEs theory.

10. Matthew Stafford, QB

11. Marshawn Lynch, RB -- He's just 25. This ranking will change if he leaves Seattle, but he's a young player with an improving offensive line that will be a lot healthier next year and a coach that likes to run. Also, no committee. But again, so many question marks with the health of other guys here.

13. Cam Newton, QB -- I expect the rushing touchdowns to come down, but still. Imagine when he has a full training camp.

15. Matt Forte, RB -- Seemed like his injury was the least worrisome of the all the big-name guys.

16. Jimmy Graham, TE -- Had 149 targets; another matchup nightmare who, like Gronk, is young and -- scary thought -- still learning.

17. Roddy White, WR -- For all the Julio talk (and yes, Jones did miss games), White had 181 targets.

25. Victor Cruz, WR -- I went Nicks over Cruz and Jennings over Jordy based on track record, but they're all studs.

26. Steven Jackson, RB

27. Jordy Nelson, WR

30. Frank Gore, RB

31. Marques Colston, WR

32. Brandon Marshall, WR

33. DeMarco Murray, RB

38. Michael Turner, RB --

42. Ahmad Bradshaw, RB

Talk about short term memory with how high and low these guys are.Too high - Gronk, Stafford, Lynch, Newton, Graham, Roddy, Cruz, Jordy, Colston, Marshall

Too low - Forte, SJax, Gore, Murray, Turner, Bradshaw.

...most of those RBs are so low its laughable.

Stafford (5000+ yards and 40+ Tds), Graham and Gronk (record breakers at TE), White (almost 200 targets), are too high?

Forte, Sjax, Gore, Murray, Turner and Bradshaw? Age or injury concern for everyone you mentioned, and they are too low?

Your remarks are laughable.

Yes, I know what the players did this year. Where Berry has the aforementioned "highs" slotted he's basically prediciting/banking on duplication of 2011 numbers. I love Stafford, but I guarantee when we see FBG's projections next year, even those highest on Stafford wont have higher than roughly 4200/33. Gronk and Graham? Records are records for a reason, they dont get broken every year. Theyre clearly the top 2 TEs by a wide margin, but you really want to start off your draft with a TE in the 1st like Berry is advising?! Teams with these 3 guys won championships this year because they drafted them in round 8+. As for White, I dont play in leagues that get points for targets. He was a semi-bust 10 weeks into the season with only 3 TDs and 1 100yd game. I'll still have him in my top 10 WRs in all liklihood next year, but Im not taking him mid-2nd like Berry os saying.Doesnt everyone have injury concern??? MJD was an injury concern coming off microfracture surgery this year and was a top 3 RB. Turner and Gore didnt miss a game this year, SJax missed one. Forte was injury free for 3 years and having a great year this year. Murray I believe had a longterm injury as a frosh at OU, but had been injury free until the ankle this year. Despite missing 6 games essentially, Bradshaw was still a top 20 RB this year. He's the only one of these RBs I would downgrade to injury next year a little because it would seem like his foot is a weird situation with the pins at all.

It will be interesting to see where FBGs have these guys ranked next summer. I'll be very surprised if all those RB's arent top 30 picks, and the overvalued guys arent slotted 8-12 picks lower for the most part.

Maybe, but Gronk is a stud. Anyone who downgrades him does not want the best player at TE. Brady loves him and will for years, 3 TDs in the playofss and a consistant performance all year. What more can you ask for?

 

[Bayhawks]

Yes, I know what the players did this year. Where Berry has the aforementioned "highs" slotted he's basically prediciting/banking on duplication of 2011 numbers. I love Stafford, but I guarantee when we see FBG's projections next year, even those highest on Stafford wont have higher than roughly 4200/33. Gronk and Graham? Records are records for a reason, they dont get broken every year. Theyre clearly the top 2 TEs by a wide margin, but you really want to start off your draft with a TE in the 1st like Berry is advising?! Teams with these 3 guys won championships this year because they drafted them in round 8+. As for White, I dont play in leagues that get points for targets. He was a semi-bust 10 weeks into the season with only 3 TDs and 1 100yd game. I'll still have him in my top 10 WRs in all liklihood next year, but Im not taking him mid-2nd like Berry os saying.

Doesnt everyone have injury concern??? MJD was an injury concern coming off microfracture surgery this year and was a top 3 RB. Turner and Gore didnt miss a game this year, SJax missed one. Forte was injury free for 3 years and having a great year this year. Murray I believe had a longterm injury as a frosh at OU, but had been injury free until the ankle this year. Despite missing 6 games essentially, Bradshaw was still a top 20 RB this year. He's the only one of these RBs I would downgrade to injury next year a little because it would seem like his foot is a weird situation with the pins at all.

It will be interesting to see where FBGs have these guys ranked next summer. I'll be very surprised if all those RB's arent top 30 picks, and the overvalued guys arent slotted 8-12 picks lower for the most part.

If I'm not mistaken, this is a rankings list, not a draft-order prediction/suggestion. Just because he has Gronkowski ranked 9th, doesn't mean you pick him with pick 9 of the first round.

Well, at least for the top 25 picks, how isnt it a draft order suggestion?

Because it isn't. You're not going to see 3 QBs go in the top-10 (barring unusual scoring rules), and the 3rd one isn't going to be Stafford. This is a list of who Berry thinks are the top 100 FF players for next year, NOT a draft order suggestion. Those of you who are reading it that way, and tearing it apart as a result, are making the mistake here.

 

[Sienna2012]

Yes, I know what the players did this year. Where Berry has the aforementioned "highs" slotted he's basically prediciting/banking on duplication of 2011 numbers. I love Stafford, but I guarantee when we see FBG's projections next year, even those highest on Stafford wont have higher than roughly 4200/33. Gronk and Graham? Records are records for a reason, they dont get broken every year. Theyre clearly the top 2 TEs by a wide margin, but you really want to start off your draft with a TE in the 1st like Berry is advising?! Teams with these 3 guys won championships this year because they drafted them in round 8+. As for White, I dont play in leagues that get points for targets. He was a semi-bust 10 weeks into the season with only 3 TDs and 1 100yd game. I'll still have him in my top 10 WRs in all liklihood next year, but Im not taking him mid-2nd like Berry os saying.

Doesnt everyone have injury concern??? MJD was an injury concern coming off microfracture surgery this year and was a top 3 RB. Turner and Gore didnt miss a game this year, SJax missed one. Forte was injury free for 3 years and having a great year this year. Murray I believe had a longterm injury as a frosh at OU, but had been injury free until the ankle this year. Despite missing 6 games essentially, Bradshaw was still a top 20 RB this year. He's the only one of these RBs I would downgrade to injury next year a little because it would seem like his foot is a weird situation with the pins at all.

It will be interesting to see where FBGs have these guys ranked next summer. I'll be very surprised if all those RB's arent top 30 picks, and the overvalued guys arent slotted 8-12 picks lower for the most part.

If I'm not mistaken, this is a rankings list, not a draft-order prediction/suggestion. Just because he has Gronkowski ranked 9th, doesn't mean you pick him with pick 9 of the first round.

Well, at least for the top 25 picks, how isnt it a draft order suggestion?

Because it isn't. You're not going to see 3 QBs go in the top-10 (barring unusual scoring rules), and the 3rd one isn't going to be Stafford. This is a list of who Berry thinks are the top 100 FF players for next year, NOT a draft order suggestion. Those of you who are reading it that way, and tearing it apart as a result, are making the mistake here.

In some leagues , I can see Brees, Rodgers and Newton going in the first round. But I agree, people are debating this like this represents draft position and it does not.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Yes, I know what the players did this year. Where Berry has the aforementioned "highs" slotted he's basically prediciting/banking on duplication of 2011 numbers. I love Stafford, but I guarantee when we see FBG's projections next year, even those highest on Stafford wont have higher than roughly 4200/33. Gronk and Graham? Records are records for a reason, they dont get broken every year. Theyre clearly the top 2 TEs by a wide margin, but you really want to start off your draft with a TE in the 1st like Berry is advising?! Teams with these 3 guys won championships this year because they drafted them in round 8+. As for White, I dont play in leagues that get points for targets. He was a semi-bust 10 weeks into the season with only 3 TDs and 1 100yd game. I'll still have him in my top 10 WRs in all liklihood next year, but Im not taking him mid-2nd like Berry os saying.

Doesnt everyone have injury concern??? MJD was an injury concern coming off microfracture surgery this year and was a top 3 RB. Turner and Gore didnt miss a game this year, SJax missed one. Forte was injury free for 3 years and having a great year this year. Murray I believe had a longterm injury as a frosh at OU, but had been injury free until the ankle this year. Despite missing 6 games essentially, Bradshaw was still a top 20 RB this year. He's the only one of these RBs I would downgrade to injury next year a little because it would seem like his foot is a weird situation with the pins at all.

It will be interesting to see where FBGs have these guys ranked next summer. I'll be very surprised if all those RB's arent top 30 picks, and the overvalued guys arent slotted 8-12 picks lower for the most part.

If I'm not mistaken, this is a rankings list, not a draft-order prediction/suggestion. Just because he has Gronkowski ranked 9th, doesn't mean you pick him with pick 9 of the first round.

Well, at least for the top 25 picks, how isnt it a draft order suggestion?

Because it isn't. You're not going to see 3 QBs go in the top-10 (barring unusual scoring rules), and the 3rd one isn't going to be Stafford. This is a list of who Berry thinks are the top 100 FF players for next year, NOT a draft order suggestion. Those of you who are reading it that way, and tearing it apart as a result, are making the mistake here.

Pretty sure Rodgers, Vick, and Brees went in the first round in a lot of leagues last year.If its not draft order, how exactly is he determining how to rank people? If he's going by total points, he'd have more QBs in the top 12 than he already does.

 

[az_prof]

McFadden is laughable at 41. I get downgrading him due to injury concerns, but that's totally ridiculous. It's these kind of things that reduce credibility.

It's too high, but it's not "laughable." McFadden should be maybe 10 spots higher (and only 1-2 RBs higher). He is the 16th RB on the list. He had one season when he finished in the top-10 for FF RBs. His best finish other than that year was in the 30's. He has NEVER played a full NFL season.

In 2008, McFadden made it to 77 touches before he had to sit out 3 games due to injury. He had 65 touches to finish out the season.2009? He made it to 54 before sitting out 4 games. He had 71 the rest of the season.2010? Got to 101 before missing two games. After that he made it to 89 before missing a half of a game due to injury. Then had 80 more before missing a week.2011? After 132 touches he was forced to miss the final 9 games.Feeling lucky next year? Think his new coach is gonna look at that and say there's my workhorse?

YOu can't count on DMAC as your #1 RB. Period. But he is a great value as your #2 back because when he plays he will produce like a top 5 back. I have no problem taking him in the third round or even late second, but you must secure his handcuff. If you had had Bush as well this season, Bush produced very well as a RB2.