I think Garcon is a winner. He's going to have an elite young QB with a good deep ball throwing to him.
Assuming.But I agree that Garcon should be a better FF player next year than this past season.I think Garcon is a winner. He's going to have an elite young QB with a good deep ball throwing to him.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Bucs have agreed to terms with LG Carl Nicks on a five-year, $47.5 million contract.The deal includes $31 million guaranteed, topping Logan Mankins as the highest-paid guard in both annual pay and up-front money. The Bucs have landed arguably the two biggest prizes of the first 16 hours of free agency in Nicks and Vincent Jackson, following through on a promise to surround Josh Freeman with premier talent. Arguably the best guard in the NFL, Nicks will slot in opposite RG Davin Joseph, giving the Bucs an imposing frontline. As of Tuesday night, the Saints were "making a push" to sign Ben Grubbs as Nicks' replacement.Fans, this offseason is already very exciting.Tampa offense, especially if they get nicks. That online sucks
The guy hasn't even been drafted and he's already elite?I think Garcon is a winner. He's going to have an elite young QB with a good deep ball throwing to him.
Agree with all of these except VJax. How does getting Freeman to throw him the ball instead of Rivers improve his production? He was already the WR1 in SD so being the WR1 in Tampa isn't going to improve his production. At best he is a "hold steady," but it seems to me that his fantasy production is more likely to go down than up with the change in teams.We can discuss who you think has won or lost based on Free Agency as well as trades and team signings.Winners:MeachemCutlerMarshallFreemanVincent JacksonColstonCalvinStaffordLosers:Mike WilliamsGarconJason Campbell
Elite IMO. Of course we'll see, but I'm very optimistic about his prospects and think it's a very good landing spot for Garcon.The guy hasn't even been drafted and he's already elite?I think Garcon is a winner. He's going to have an elite young QB with a good deep ball throwing to him.
Jax could have signed him. other than that, he's a FA loser.Agree with all of these except VJax. How does getting Freeman to throw him the ball instead of Rivers improve his production? He was already the WR1 in SD so being the WR1 in Tampa isn't going to improve his production. At best he is a "hold steady," but it seems to me that his fantasy production is more likely to go down than up with the change in teams.We can discuss who you think has won or lost based on Free Agency as well as trades and team signings.
Winners:
Meachem
Cutler
Marshall
Freeman
Vincent Jackson
Colston
Calvin
Stafford
Losers:
Mike Williams
Garcon
Jason Campbell
How could they not sign/draft a reasonably high profile WR? Would fans simply be okay with them sucking on purpose?If Miami does not add a WR then someone in Miami should gain: Bess/Gates/Hartline?
VJax > MeachemAdvantage Vincent Brown?Meachem is a winner for sure
Yeah, I can't argee that going to a place with a rookie QB is a good thing for his fantasy stats. Especially one that also added 2 other WR's and had a decent few on the roster already. That's a lot of mouths to feed and probably only 3,400~3,600 worth of yards to divy up. Maybe 2 years from now once RG3 gets some experience.Certainly worse or better places he could have landed so at best I'd say it's a wash.The guy hasn't even been drafted and he's already elite?I think Garcon is a winner. He's going to have an elite young QB with a good deep ball throwing to him.
Definite advantage to Brown...its just whoever wins out between Floyd and Meachem. I give the edge to Meachem because Floyd is so injury proneVJax > MeachemAdvantage Vincent Brown?Meachem is a winner for sure
IFManning is looking at stats and they aren't there in Miami without Marshall.Winner: all Miami skill positions if and when Manning announces his intention to sign with the Phins. They got rid of Marshall to clear the way.
How is getting rid of Marshall clearing the way for Manning? Wayne resigned with Indy.Winner: all Miami skill positions if and when Manning announces his intention to sign with the Phins. They got rid of Marshall to clear the way.
Those ugly uniforms alone should deter him.IMO, Manning will end up in Tennessee. If he signed with the Titans, he could become governor when he's done playing. He already is a demi-god after going to school there.
'zamboni said:I mentioned this in the Colston thread, but I think Jimmy Graham is a winner - or at least not a loser - with Colston sticking around. Plus with Meachem out of the picture, that's one fewer mouth for Brees to feed (although Arrington is a wildcard).No Colston would have meant even more focus on Graham, and any replacement would have not have garnered as much attention as Colston does.
Will battle Joe Morgan for that #3 spot. They can't keep that Henderson hack around much longer.Winner Winner Chicken Dinner is Adrian Arrington and as soon as PM signs in Denver add Eric Decker to that list.
Can you elaborate on why you feel this way? Multiple people keep bringing up Arrington, but why? He's potentially replacing a more talented Meachem who himself went for just 40-620-6 last year in what was the most prolific passing offense in NFL history. Isn't Arrington at best the 5th option in the passing game in 2012 behind Graham, Colston, Sproles, and Moore, with the potential to split targets with Henderson and/or whomever else the Saints bring in via free agency or the draft? I guess if you consider going from fantasy irrelevancy to rosterable, then Arrington is a fantasy winner. I just fail to see him putting up statistics that make him worthy of seeing a fantasy lineup. But maybe I'm not thinking this through correctly.Winner Winner Chicken Dinner is Adrian Arrington
We already know what Devery Henderson is and I suspect New Orleans does too. Arrington is still young (26) and showed promise last year in the preseason. He's had some injuries, but showed big play ability last year in the preseason. I expect a bump in playing time in 2012. That's why I said Arrington.Can you elaborate on why you feel this way? Multiple people keep bringing up Arrington, but why? He's potentially replacing a more talented Meachem who himself went for just 40-620-6 last year in what was the most prolific passing offense in NFL history. Isn't Arrington at best the 5th option in the passing game in 2012 behind Graham, Colston, Sproles, and Moore, with the potential to split targets with Henderson and/or whomever else the Saints bring in via free agency or the draft? I guess if you consider going from fantasy irrelevancy to rosterable, then Arrington is a fantasy winner. I just fail to see him putting up statistics that make him worthy of seeing a fantasy lineup. But maybe I'm not thinking this through correctly.Winner Winner Chicken Dinner is Adrian Arrington
Agree with all of these except VJax. How does getting Freeman to throw him the ball instead of Rivers improve his production? He was already the WR1 in SD so being the WR1 in Tampa isn't going to improve his production. At best he is a "hold steady," but it seems to me that his fantasy production is more likely to go down than up with the change in teams.We can discuss who you think has won or lost based on Free Agency as well as trades and team signings.Winners:MeachemCutlerMarshallFreemanVincent JacksonColstonCalvinStaffordLosers:Mike WilliamsGarconJason Campbell
Not really...they are just going to suck even more. And I'm a Phins fan.A couple of bench guys on one of my teams that are losers are Wash WRs Santana Moss and Jabar Gaffney. Not huge names for a fantasy football team but they certainly look less valuable now.If Miami does not add a WR then someone in Miami should gain: Bess/Gates/Hartline?
He is forbidden to do anything until the 17th. Not sure your logic makes any sense.Mike Wallace has to be listed as a loser as well. Seeing guys like Garcon, Robinson and Colston getting 7M/yr+ must sting.
Not to mention it will likely be considered a win for Wallace if he ends up back in Pitt.He is forbidden to do anything until the 17th. Not sure your logic makes any sense.Mike Wallace has to be listed as a loser as well. Seeing guys like Garcon, Robinson and Colston getting 7M/yr+ must sting.
Jax could have signed him. other than that, he's a FA loser.Agree with all of these except VJax. How does getting Freeman to throw him the ball instead of Rivers improve his production? He was already the WR1 in SD so being the WR1 in Tampa isn't going to improve his production. At best he is a "hold steady," but it seems to me that his fantasy production is more likely to go down than up with the change in teams.We can discuss who you think has won or lost based on Free Agency as well as trades and team signings.
Winners:
Meachem
Cutler
Marshall
Freeman
Vincent Jackson
Colston
Calvin
Stafford
Losers:
Mike Williams
Garcon
Jason Campbell
New Niki uniforms will be unveiled april 3rd.Those ugly uniforms alone should deter him.IMO, Manning will end up in Tennessee. If he signed with the Titans, he could become governor when he's done playing. He already is a demi-god after going to school there.