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2012 Offseason Dynasty Trades (1 Viewer)

14 team Non-PPR

I'm not involved on either side.

Team A receives:

Jonathan Stewart

Daniel Thomas

Brandon Marshall

Team B receives:

Trent Richardson

 
14 team Non-PPRI'm not involved on either side. Team A receives:Jonathan StewartDaniel ThomasBrandon MarshallTeam B receives:Trent Richardson
Pretty fair trade...I think Trent is the best player in the deal, but if Stewart and Marshall perform to top 15 levels over the next 3 years, team A did very well.
 
2.9 & 2.10

for

Aaron Hernandez

T. Smith & J. Witten

for

K. Britt & 2.5 (Rueben Randle)

D. Brown, R. Cobb, 1.7 & 3.7

for

M. Ingram & 2.9

R. Meachem

for

R. Cobb

R. Matthews

for

V. Cruz, T. Smith, R. Bush & 1.7

 
'Dreamer said:
2.9 & 2.10for Aaron HernandezT. Smith & J. WittenforK. Britt & 2.5 (Rueben Randle)D. Brown, R. Cobb, 1.7 & 3.7for M. Ingram & 2.9R. Meachemfor R. CobbR. MatthewsforV. Cruz, T. Smith, R. Bush & 1.7
That first trade for Aaron Hernandez is awful. Two late seconds for the best TE in fantasy not named gronkowski or graham. Doesn't make much sense
 
'Dreamer said:
2.9 & 2.10

for

Aaron Hernandez

T. Smith & J. Witten

for

K. Britt & 2.5 (Rueben Randle)

D. Brown, R. Cobb, 1.7 & 3.7

for

M. Ingram & 2.9

R. Meachem

for

R. Cobb

R. Matthews

for

V. Cruz, T. Smith, R. Bush & 1.7
Most of these aren't even close. Frankly I'm amazed that Ingram still has that value.
 
I'm still high on Ingram, probably too high. And without the pick I got in the Ingram deal, I don't get the Hernandez deal. The picks were on the clock when I traded them, and yes I felt a little guilty, but I have overpaid this owner in the past.

 
'Dreamer said:
2.9 & 2.10

for

Aaron Hernandez

T. Smith & J. Witten

for

K. Britt & 2.5 (Rueben Randle)

D. Brown, R. Cobb, 1.7 & 3.7

for

M. Ingram & 2.9

R. Meachem

for

R. Cobb

R. Matthews

for

V. Cruz, T. Smith, R. Bush & 1.7
Most of these aren't even close. Frankly I'm amazed that Ingram still has that value.
I think they're all close except the Hernandez deal. And even with that one, I've seen some very good players fall to the late 2nd in this year's rookie drafts, so I could see it if he is really sold on a player or two.I agree with you on which side I'd prefer in all of them except the Britt trade. I'm probably overly high on Torrey Smith, but I don't see a huge difference between him and Britt and I like Witten (assuming this is PPR) more than a 2nd round pick.

 
This one got a few guys in our league talking. I'd be interested in people's thoughts.

12 team PPR. Start 1QRWTKD + 3flexRWT

Fighting Couch Potatoes 5 gave up:

Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Fighting Couch Potatoes 5

Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from Fighting Couch Potatoes 5

Team A gave up:

Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team A

We just finished out start up draft last week. Outcome of this trade is dependent on how the teams do in 2013, not 2012. Comparatively, I like my starting lineup more for 2013. Richardson, Blackmon, Quick hitting their stride in their 2nd year, Stewart / D Williams possibly separated and not sharing by then, Meachem's 2nd year in SD. And I like my bench a whole lot more than his. He drafted rookies and 2nd year players for 12 of his 16 RB/WR roster spots, many of them reaches IMO, and he's going to lack quality depth to cover inevitable injuries and byes. I also think if guys like Bush or Helu lose starting jobs before 2013 is done he doesn't have the depth to adequately cover that. With this roster I think he could find himself low in the standings for 2013, giving me a nice high draft pick. I wonder if people agree or if they think I'm way off on this one.

FCP Roster

Owns future picks 2013: 1,2,2,2,3,4 2014: 1,2,2,2,3,4

Bradford, Sam STL QB - 9 10.10

Flacco, Joe BAL QB - 8 14.10

Kolb, Kevin ARI QB - 10 18.10

Palmer, Carson OAK QB - 5 17.03

Ryan, Matt ATL QB - 7 5.09

Hightower, Tim WAS RB (Q) - 10 26.10

Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB (Q) - 7 19.03

Richardson, Trent CLE RB ® (P) - 10 1.03

Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB - 6 4.10

Tolbert, Mike CAR RB - 6 21.03

Wells, Beanie ARI RB (P) - 10 6.10

Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB - 6 11.09

Bess, Davone MIA WR (P) - 7 15.03

Blackmon, Justin JAC WR ® - 6 4.05

Criner, Juron OAK WR ® - 5 23.03

Gates, Clyde MIA WR - 7 22.10

Jenkins, A.J. SFO WR ® - 9 13.03

Jennings, Greg GBP WR - 10 2.10

Massaquoi, Mohamed CLE WR - 10 25.03

Meachem, Robert SDC WR - 7 8.10

Quick, Brian STL WR ® - 9 9.03

Robinson, Laurent JAC WR - 6 16.10

Celek, Brent PHI TE (P) - 7 12.10

Dickson, Ed BAL TE - 8 20.10

Witten, Jason DAL TE - 5 7.09

Crosby, Mason GBP PK - 10 24.10

Team A roster

Owns future picks 2013: 1,1,2,2,3,4 2014: 1,2,3,4

Brees, Drew NOS QB - 6 2.09

Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB - 6 16.05

Weeden, Brandon CLE QB ® - 10 14.03

Bush, Reggie MIA RB - 7 8.01

Charles, Jamaal KCC RB (Q) - 7 2.06

Goodson, Mike OAK RB - 5 16.04

Helu, Roy WAS RB - 10 4.06

Miller, Lamar MIA RB ® (P) - 7 8.03

Polk, Chris PHI RB ® - 7 17.04

Baldwin, Doug SEA WR - 11 14.09

Floyd, Michael ARI WR ® - 10 5.08

Hankerson, Leonard WAS WR (P) - 10 10.01

Jones, Dwight HOU WR ® - 8 23.08

Matthews, Rishard MIA WR ® - 7 26.05

McNutt, Marvin PHI WR ® - 7 25.08

Randle, Reuben NYG WR ® - 11 9.04

Shorts, Cecil JAC WR - 6 26.09

Streeter, Tommy BAL WR ® - 8 19.04

Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR (P) - 7 3.04

Davis, Fred WAS TE - 10 7.03

Kendricks, Lance STL TE - 9 17.07

Rudolph, Kyle MIN TE - 11 9.11

Tamme, Jacob DEN TE - 7 13.04

Henery, Alex PHI PK - 7 24.09

49ers, San Francisco SFO Def - 9 18.09

Chiefs, Kansas City KCC Def - 7 21.04

 
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'The Real Hipster Doofus said:
12 team PPR. Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE)Team A trades: WR Jonathan Baldwin, TE Aaron Hernandez, 2.06Team B trades: 1.07, TE Jared Cook
Another horrible trade for the team trading away Hernandez.
 
'Couch Potato said:
This one got a few guys in our league talking. I'd be interested in people's thoughts.12 team PPR. Start 1QRWTKD + 3flexRWTFighting Couch Potatoes 5 gave up:Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Fighting Couch Potatoes 5Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from Fighting Couch Potatoes 5Team A gave up:Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team AWe just finished out start up draft last week. Outcome of this trade is dependent on how the teams do in 2013, not 2012. Comparatively, I like my starting lineup more for 2013. Richardson, Blackmon, Quick hitting their stride in their 2nd year, Stewart / D Williams possibly separated and not sharing by then, Meachem's 2nd year in SD. And I like my bench a whole lot more than his. He drafted rookies and 2nd year players for 12 of his 16 RB/WR roster spots, many of them reaches IMO, and he's going to lack quality depth to cover inevitable injuries and byes. I also think if guys like Bush or Helu lose starting jobs before 2013 is done he doesn't have the depth to adequately cover that. With this roster I think he could find himself low in the standings for 2013, giving me a nice high draft pick. I wonder if people agree or if they think I'm way off on this one.
Interesting.I think there are too many variables to make this kind of deal two years out, but fortune favors the bold! I think both squads have question marks with their youth. It is entirely possible that Blackmon and Quick and Meachum aren't strong starters in 2013... frankly, I think it is statistically likely that 1-2 of them are not. Your squad could also have only 1-2 starting RBs come 2013... Deangelo was barely startable last year, he will be 30 in 2013, and we do not know Stewart's situation. Basically both of you have possible weaknesses, though his seem to be worse.I like the chances that your squad is better than his next year, but it isn't a given. Most importantly, though, is that a lot can change between now and 2013, so it is very risky to make this kind of deal two years out. The cost isn't crazy, though, you would lose some position in the 1st and lose a 3rd, not a huge deal.
 
'Couch Potato said:
This one got a few guys in our league talking. I'd be interested in people's thoughts.

Fighting Couch Potatoes 5 gave up:

Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Fighting Couch Potatoes 5

Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from Fighting Couch Potatoes 5

Team A gave up:

Year 2014 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team A

FCP Roster

Ryan, Matt ATL QB - 7 5.09

Richardson, Trent CLE RB ® (P) - 10 1.03

Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB - 6 4.10

Blackmon, Justin JAC WR ® - 6 4.05

Jennings, Greg GBP WR - 10 2.10

Meachem, Robert SDC WR - 7 8.10

Witten, Jason DAL TE - 5 7.09

Bradford, Sam STL QB - 9 10.10

Flacco, Joe BAL QB - 8 14.10

Wells, Beanie ARI RB (P) - 10 6.10

Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB - 6 11.09

Jenkins, A.J. SFO WR ® - 9 13.03

Quick, Brian STL WR ® - 9 9.03

Celek, Brent PHI TE (P) - 7 12.10

Dickson, Ed BAL TE - 8 20.10

Team A roster

Brees, Drew NOS QB - 6 2.09

Bush, Reggie MIA RB - 7 8.01

Charles, Jamaal KCC RB (Q) - 7 2.06

Helu, Roy WAS RB - 10 4.06

Floyd, Michael ARI WR ® - 10 5.08

Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR (P) - 7 3.04

Davis, Fred WAS TE - 10 7.03

Miller, Lamar MIA RB ® (P) - 7 8.03

Baldwin, Doug SEA WR - 11 14.09

Hankerson, Leonard WAS WR (P) - 10 10.01

Randle, Reuben NYG WR ® - 11 9.04

Kendricks, Lance STL TE - 9 17.07

Rudolph, Kyle MIN TE - 11 9.11

Tamme, Jacob DEN TE - 7 13.04
I'd prefer his WR duo that starts, and the bench WR slightly in your favor, I realize this is probably perceived differently by you and that's certainly understandable. I'd be far more comfy with his TE group, both Davis starting and his bench has a lot more upside.

The QBs, I like your group more but still doubt Ryan scores as much as Brees in two years, or ever. Not closing the casket on Ryan (or Bradford) as fantasy starters but asking for Brees' output is somewhat unfair.

Although he wins on those three, the biggest gap here is at RB. Give me Trent, Stewart and Beanie over Charles, Bush and Helu, all three with fleeting value (and more importantly, fleeting points a year and a half from now). If Stewart gets bell cow carries that year (which he should, one way or another), then having Trent and he will be a nice duo in HA format.

All in all, I'm going to say he is going to finish better in two years if it stays as is, but it is close. This is not taking into account any management whatsoever, so it is close to enough to where one trade sends this the other way.

I love that you both had balls to make this trade.

 
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JPeso, thanks very much for taking the time and effort to look this over. Of course, I disagree on the WRs and TEs, but my perception is why I made the deal so that's not surprising. I'm very high on Quick and Blackmon in their 2nd years and beyond. I think the only place he has an advantage is with Brees, and man is he dead if that guy goes down for a few games with Weeden and Gabbert the backups. Again, thanks for your reply.

 
Ppr scoring:Mcfadden, desean jackson, fitzpatrickForCharles, dez bryant
I'll take the McFadden side ALL day. Great deal.
Huh? Even thinking that DMC>Charles (it's splitting hairs and personal), Dez>>DJax and Fitz
I have a very high opinion of McFadden and think he has a top 3 year this year. (Go ahead and mock away) I don't see a huge difference between Dez and DJax. There was a 20 point difference between the two last year and I think that DeSean puts up much bigger numbers this year. I've got 'em about equal. Fitz is... well Fitz.
 
JPeso, thanks very much for taking the time and effort to look this over. Of course, I disagree on the WRs and TEs, but my perception is why I made the deal so that's not surprising. I'm very high on Quick and Blackmon in their 2nd years and beyond. I think the only place he has an advantage is with Brees, and man is he dead if that guy goes down for a few games with Weeden and Gabbert the backups. Again, thanks for your reply.
You are welcome for my reply as well. ::no love:: ;)
 
Ppr scoring:Mcfadden, desean jackson, fitzpatrickForCharles, dez bryant
I'll take the McFadden side ALL day. Great deal.
Huh? Even thinking that DMC>Charles (it's splitting hairs and personal), Dez>>DJax and Fitz
I have a very high opinion of McFadden and think he has a top 3 year this year. (Go ahead and mock away) I don't see a huge difference between Dez and DJax. There was a 20 point difference between the two last year and I think that DeSean puts up much bigger numbers this year. I've got 'em about equal. Fitz is... well Fitz.
Dez has more upside and I think DeSean maxed out what he could do in 2009. Should be more 1000 yard seasons ahead for him, but Dez has higher potential.
 
Ppr scoring:Mcfadden, desean jackson, fitzpatrickForCharles, dez bryant
I'll take the McFadden side ALL day. Great deal.
Huh? Even thinking that DMC>Charles (it's splitting hairs and personal), Dez>>DJax and Fitz
I have a very high opinion of McFadden and think he has a top 3 year this year. (Go ahead and mock away) I don't see a huge difference between Dez and DJax. There was a 20 point difference between the two last year and I think that DeSean puts up much bigger numbers this year. I've got 'em about equal. Fitz is... well Fitz.
Dez has more upside and I think DeSean maxed out what he could do in 2009. Should be more 1000 yard seasons ahead for him, but Dez has higher potential.
This deal went down in a league I am in (dynasty ppr)... yeah, I use common name\avatar wherever I go - you posers, I know who you really are. :football: I had to look at the deal two or three times to really get a feel for it once it posted. To me, that is the first sign of it being a pretty fair deal. But I think the Charles\Bryant side helped his TEAM more.
 
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14-team dynasty PPR league; QB 4pts/TD and 1pt/20 yds passing; all other TDs 6 points

start 1QB/1RB/2WR/1TE/1Flex(rb,wr,te)/1Pk/1Def

Team A gives: Toby Gerhart (team B has AP, so handcuff), 2012 rookie draft pick 2.03, 2013 1st round draft pick, 2013 2nd round draft pick

Team B gives: Brent Celek (team A has no startable TE), 2012 draft pick 1.03

 
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14-team dynasty PPR league; QB 4pts/TD and 1pt/20 yds passing; all other TDs 6 points

start 1QB/1RB/2WR/1TE/1Flex(rb,wr,te)/1Pk/1Def

Team A gives: Tony Romo (team B has Freeman/Locker/Smith), Stephen Hill, 2013 3rd round rookie draft pick

Team B gives: Percy Harvin

 
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Interesting.I think there are too many variables to make this kind of deal two years out, but fortune favors the bold! I think both squads have question marks with their youth. It is entirely possible that Blackmon and Quick and Meachum aren't strong starters in 2013... frankly, I think it is statistically likely that 1-2 of them are not. Your squad could also have only 1-2 starting RBs come 2013... Deangelo was barely startable last year, he will be 30 in 2013, and we do not know Stewart's situation. Basically both of you have possible weaknesses, though his seem to be worse.I like the chances that your squad is better than his next year, but it isn't a given. Most importantly, though, is that a lot can change between now and 2013, so it is very risky to make this kind of deal two years out. The cost isn't crazy, though, you would lose some position in the 1st and lose a 3rd, not a huge deal.
Thank you for your reply!
 
A few trades that've happened in my league recently (14 team PPR) unfortunately none that I'm involved in:

Give:

Miles Austin

4.12

Get:

Kevin Kolb

Brandon Lloyd

2.12

Give:

Jerome Simpson

Mike Thomas

Get:

Davone Bess

4.05

Give:

Mark Ingram

2013 2nd and 2013 3rd (team is pretty good so these will likely be mid-late picks)

Get:

1.13

2013 1st (decent team, probably mid 1st round next year)

 
12 team 1 PPR Total Starters: 9

Number of Starting QBs: 1

Number of Starting RBs: 2

Number of Starting WRs: 2-3

Number of Starting TEs: 1-2

Number of Starting PKs: 1

Number of Starting Defs:1

Team A gave up Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB;Britt, Kenny TEN WR;Moss, Santana WAS WR; Year 2012 Draft Pick 6.03

Team B gave up Wallace, Mike PIT WR; Year 2012 Draft Pick 7.11

There was already a 3 round rookie draft so 4.1 - 7.12 are for the future Vet/FA draft

 
I am team b. 12tm ppr

Team Agave up:

Harvin, Percy MIN WR

Team B gave up:

Green-Ellis, BenJarvus CIN RB

Floyd, Malcom SDC WR

 
Team A gives:

Torrey Smith

2012 2.2 rookie pick

Team B gives:

Jordy Nelson

2012 2.6 rookies pick

12 team PPR

 
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Team A Gives:

LeSean McCoy

Team B Gives:

Doug Martin

Michael Floyd

J.J. Watt

2013 1st

Team A Gives:

Matt Flynn

Kenny Britt

Team B Gives:

Jake Locker

RGIII

 
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Team A gives:Torrey Smith2012 2.2 rookie pickTeam B gives:Jordy Nelson2012 2.6 rookies pick12 team PPR
Very interesting. Would love to look back on this one in two years. Seems very fair.
Yeah. A very even deal today. 2 years from now....it will probably look the same IMO. Both players have a great opportunity to excel. I think Jordy is slightly under the radar due to all the other targets on that team. But he has emerged IMO as a real go to guy after Jennings. I love Torrey Smith and I own him in multiple leagues so I figured let's diversify and grab Jordy Nelson for a squad. This particular team I have rebuilt a lot this off-season. Thus far I have addedJamal CharlesVictor CruzJordy NelsonOwen DanielsWillis McGahee2.6Giving up1.2 - which would be Martin or Blackmon for me but for me is Jamal Charles instead1.8 - unknown - and Cruz was my prize for this pick and Rice2.2 - unknown - slight trade down to aquire Nelson.Sidney Rice - Traded for 1.8 and McGahee thought that was robbery.Jonathon Stewart - in the Charles deal...done waiting for him.Torrey Smith - For NelsonMy roster now after all this activity is currently (draft in June)BradyEli ManningGabbertCharlesIngramMcGaheePowellMcKnightDez BryantCruzNelsonBoldinBessJames JonesAvantMorganCookDanielsObviously RB is a weakness....but I am still rebuilding this team. Ingram was my 1st round pick last year and while it looks ugly right now.....I still feel he will be a heck of a RB and this year is the year where I find out if he will be a true starter. I anticipate a big role for him this season. If Charles is a stud and Ingram can emerge and a sleeper like Powell comes out of nowhere along with Mcgahee getting one more year as the man....this team may slip into the post season. WR core is stout. Cook could be a monster. Lot's of questions....but this will be a fun team to root for this season.
 
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This trade was made during a startup PPR dynasty (12 teams)

I gave: 3.10 pick, 2013 1st

I got: 3.1 (used on Doug Martin) and 2013 2nd

Obviously way too early to know where my 1st and his 2nd will be next year, but with a lot of RBs gone, felt it was important to move up and get a very likely 3 down starting RB.

 
B.S. Inc gave up:Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.03Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from The Bounty HuntersRRRRARMSTRONG gave up:Lynch, Marshawn SEA RBComments: If the 2013 1st from Bounty Hunters ends up being 1.6-1.10, then B.S. Inc will give an additional pick in the 2013 draft. Either a 2013 2nd, or his next two highest picks in the 2013 draft.Start 1 qb/2rb/3wr/1te/1 flex(any)/idp. 1 ppr, standard other than that. It's a contract year setup and Lynch was franchised by Armstrong. So he could accept that offer, or keep Lynch for only one more year. B.S. Inc can award any number of years to Lynch.Current RBs on on both teams:B.S.Inc: Best, Grant, Helu, Lynch, Mendenhall, Daniel Thomas, WellsArmstrong: Michael Bush, BJGE, Ingram, Felix Jones, McFadden, Murray
Any thoughts on this one? Too much to give up for Lynch? Got Lynch too cheap?
 
14 team Non PPR QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, Flex, All TDs 6 pts

Team A Gives Cutler

Team B Gives 2013 1st Round Pick

The team receiving Cutler is perennially in the bottom half of the league and should be this year as well.

 
14 team Non PPR QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, Flex, All TDs 6 pts

Team A gives:

Matt Cassel

Randall Cobb

1.9

Team B gives:

Stafford

2.10.

Same league different teams:

Team A gives:

Jimmy Graham

2.1

3.1

Team B Gives:

Roddy White

Deangelo Williams

Jason Witten

3.13

 
14 team Non PPR QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, Flex, All TDs 6 pts

Team A gives:

Matt Cassel

Randall Cobb

1.9

Team B gives:

Stafford

2.10.

Same league different teams:

Team A gives:

Jimmy Graham

2.1

3.1

Team B Gives:

Roddy White

Deangelo Williams

Jason Witten

3.13
I'm flabbergasted
 
12 Team PPR

Team A (in rebuild mode) gave up:

Jackson, Vincent TBB WR

Team B gave up:

Wright, Kendall TEN WR

Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick (probably late)

 
'Banemorth said:
Team A Gives:LeSean McCoyTeam B Gives:Doug MartinMichael FloydJ.J. Watt2013 1stTeam A Gives:Matt FlynnKenny BrittTeam B Gives:Jake LockerRGIII
No thoughts on these huh? Surprised.
I mean they both look pretty even. I'd rather have Flynn/Britt, but...nothing too controversial here. At all.
It comes down to how people rank them but I have RG3 above Britt and Locker above Flynn. I suppose if you need help at WR then trading RG3/Locker for Britt/Flynn could make sense but I wouldn't do it.
 
'Banemorth said:
Team A Gives:LeSean McCoyTeam B Gives:Doug MartinMichael FloydJ.J. Watt2013 1stTeam A Gives:Matt FlynnKenny BrittTeam B Gives:Jake LockerRGIII
No thoughts on these huh? Surprised.
I mean they both look pretty even. I'd rather have Flynn/Britt, but...nothing too controversial here. At all.
It comes down to how people rank them but I have RG3 above Britt and Locker above Flynn. I suppose if you need help at WR then trading RG3/Locker for Britt/Flynn could make sense but I wouldn't do it.
These are two trades I had actually posted a few months ago except back then they looked like this:Team A gave up:Flynn, Matt GBP QBBritt, Kenny TEN WRTeam B gave up:Locker, Jake TEN QBYear 2012 Round 1 Draft Pick 1.04_______________________________Team A gave up:McCoy, LeSean PHI RBTeam B gave up:Watt, J.J. HOU DE;Year 2012 Round 1 Draft Pick 1.02Year 2012 Round 1 Draft Pick 1.08Year 2013 Round 1 Draft PickFor which I was told how terrible I am and how awful that would pan out. Etc. etc. Just interesting to see how things they change.
 

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