2012 Offseason Dynasty Trades (2 Viewers)

[Tau837]

12 Team PPR, start 2RB/2WR/TE and can flex any.I'm not involved.Team A Gave:A RogdersTeam B Gave:CutlerSprolesQuizzunreal.

That's crazy.

Maybe, but we don't know the context of the league and the owner's opinions on these players and that is the problem I see with most of the cricism I see of trades here.Yes, this looks bad at first blush. But Cutler IMO is criminally undervalued in most rankings. Sproles was the #6 RB in my PPR league last year. Jacquizz I see have seen on many undervallued target lists. I don't think I would do this trade if I were the Rodgers owner, but without knowing that team's current roster and where the owner is coming from regarding the players acquired, it may not be as crazy as some here think.

i pride myself on being able to see both sides to a trade (or an argument), but can't in this one. i am in this league. the team that traded Rodgers took over an OK team (Rodgers & Julio Jones being the best talent) and had the 1.06 and 1.09, which turned into RG3 and Fleener. So he decides to trade his best "chip" for a back up FF QB, a 29 year old RB and a lottery ticket in Quiz. I get rebuilding. I get changing the team to get "your" players. But to take a Top 6 Dynasty player and just get that package back is just awful.

 

[thriftyrocker]

12 team PPR

Sidney Rice

for

2012 2nd (mid?)

M. Hardesty

 

[Gottabesweet]

Traded Blaine Gabberet and Dezmone Briscoe for pick 17 overall rookie draft.

 

[mikel2014]

16 team PPR league

I traded: Jonathan Stewart, Julio Jones

I received: Arian Foster, 1.04

Other team is weak at WR and strong at RB with McFadden, Ray Rice, and Beanie Wells.

 

[Crazy Tony]

10TEAM DYNASTY PPR w/ KR yardage.

Start 2QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1W/T, 2 W/R, K, DEF.

2012 #8 pick was traded for:

2013 1st and 2nd rounder.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

16 team PPR leagueI traded: Jonathan Stewart, Julio JonesI received: Arian Foster, 1.04Other team is weak at WR and strong at RB with McFadden, Ray Rice, and Beanie Wells.

Pretty damn fair. One of the few balanced trades with studs on both sides in this thread that I've actively noticed.

 

[fsufan]

16 team PPR leagueI traded: Jonathan Stewart, Julio JonesI received: Arian Foster, 1.04Other team is weak at WR and strong at RB with McFadden, Ray Rice, and Beanie Wells.

Pretty damn fair. One of the few balanced trades with studs on both sides in this thread that I've actively noticed.

no way i give foster and the 1.04.

 

[bengalbuck]

16 team PPR leagueI traded: Jonathan Stewart, Julio JonesI received: Arian Foster, 1.04Other team is weak at WR and strong at RB with McFadden, Ray Rice, and Beanie Wells.

Pretty damn fair. One of the few balanced trades with studs on both sides in this thread that I've actively noticed.

no way i give foster and the 1.04.

It's not overly lopsided like a lot in this thread, but I agree that the Foster side is the clear winner.Foster>Julio Julio's a top 15 type guy overall, but Foster's easily top 5, with a good case for #1 overall.1.04>Stewart I suspect that the Stewart FA next offseason will disappoint owners just like the Deangelo Williams FA did. He wants to stay in Carolina. And 1.04 is a great spot to be. Guaranteed either Martin, Luck or RGIII (or Wilson/Blackmon if you prefer), all of whom I'd take over Stewart and all of whom are going ahead of Stewart in most startups. (Plus QBs are worth more in 16 teamer.)

 

[solorca]

12 Team PPR

Team A Gave - Deangelo Williams

Team B Gave - Two 2013 2nd rounders, Marcedes Lewis

 

[Dragon1952]

16 team PPR leagueI traded: Jonathan Stewart, Julio JonesI received: Arian Foster, 1.04Other team is weak at WR and strong at RB with McFadden, Ray Rice, and Beanie Wells.

Pretty damn fair. One of the few balanced trades with studs on both sides in this thread that I've actively noticed.

no way i give foster and the 1.04.

Agreed. Foster is way ahead of Stewart in current value. Julio Jones is only slightly greater than 1.4 value.

 

[King of the Jungle]

16 team PPR leagueI traded: Jonathan Stewart, Julio JonesI received: Arian Foster, 1.04Other team is weak at WR and strong at RB with McFadden, Ray Rice, and Beanie Wells.

Pretty damn fair. One of the few balanced trades with studs on both sides in this thread that I've actively noticed.

no way i give foster and the 1.04.

Agreed. Foster is way ahead of Stewart in current value. Julio Jones is only slightly greater than 1.4 value.

I would take Julio over any rookie this year.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Someone seriously said that Julio is only slightly greater than 1.4 in value? Wow.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

Honestly, I wouldn't mind having the Julio side, but I like my WRs in dynasty.

 

[Dragon1952]

Someone seriously said that Julio is only slightly greater than 1.4 in value? Wow.

Yes....I said that. Trent Richardson, Doug Martin....(1.1, 1.2)I would say many would rather have them. That leaves one spot. RGIII (16 team remember), Michael Floyd, Justin Blackmon could all be considered close in value. We have 1 year from Julio....none from the others. How can you really say Julio is better than any of these guys in dynasty. Especially when you're giving up Foster for Stewart to find out.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Someone seriously said that Julio is only slightly greater than 1.4 in value? Wow.

Yes....I said that. Trent Richardson, Doug Martin....(1.1, 1.2)I would say many would rather have them. That leaves one spot. RGIII (16 team remember), Michael Floyd, Justin Blackmon could all be considered close in value. We have 1 year from Julio....none from the others. How can you really say Julio is better than any of these guys in dynasty. Especially when you're giving up Foster for Stewart to find out.

Trent Richardson is the only rookie this year I can even see an argument for, vs. Julio. Unless its a 2QB league. And even then...

 

[Dez]

10 team non PPR

Harlem gave up:

Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.07

Charleston gave up:

Bradford, Sam STL QB

Smith, Kevin DET RB

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Someone seriously said that Julio is only slightly greater than 1.4 in value? Wow.

Yes....I said that. Trent Richardson, Doug Martin....(1.1, 1.2)I would say many would rather have them. That leaves one spot. RGIII (16 team remember), Michael Floyd, Justin Blackmon could all be considered close in value. We have 1 year from Julio....none from the others. How can you really say Julio is better than any of these guys in dynasty. Especially when you're giving up Foster for Stewart to find out.

I can't even see the argument for Martin, Floyd, or Blackmon over Julio. I could see an argument for luck or rg3, but still don't think it's close

 

[finito]

Someone seriously said that Julio is only slightly greater than 1.4 in value? Wow.

Yes....I said that. Trent Richardson, Doug Martin....(1.1, 1.2)I would say many would rather have them. That leaves one spot. RGIII (16 team remember), Michael Floyd, Justin Blackmon could all be considered close in value. We have 1 year from Julio....none from the others. How can you really say Julio is better than any of these guys in dynasty. Especially when you're giving up Foster for Stewart to find out.

Trent Richardson is the only rookie this year I can even see an argument for, vs. Julio. Unless its a 2QB league. And even then...

2 QB league Luck and RGIII have as much value as Julio IMO. But in any other league Julio is far more valuable than the 1.04, though I do think Foster/Stewart evens it out pretty nicely, so fair deal IMO.

 

[Instinctive]

Zealots Trade

Team A gave up:

Cribbs, Josh CLE WR

Holmes, Santonio NYJ WR

Year 2013 Round 3 Draft Pick

Year 2013 Round 5 Draft Pick

Team B gave up:

Rudolph, Kyle MIN TE

Kuechly, Luke CAR LB

Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick

 

[lbouchard]

Zealots TradeTeam A gave up:Cribbs, Josh CLE WRHolmes, Santonio NYJ WRYear 2013 Round 3 Draft PickYear 2013 Round 5 Draft PickTeam B gave up:Rudolph, Kyle MIN TEKuechly, Luke CAR LBYear 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick

Steal for team A. 3 pieces of value for 1 major headache

 

[az_prof]

Honestly, I wouldn't mind having the Julio side, but I like my WRs in dynasty.

Me too. Plus, I still wouldn't be surprised to see Stewart having a better three or four years than Foster. I know everyone thinks Foster is the best, but I think Stewart will be a top 3 RB if he ever gets into the right situation. And JJ will be a stud for the next 10 years. Foster will be lucky to be a top stud for three more.

 

[Heep]

12 Team PPR

Team A gave up:

Doug Martin

Team B gave up:

Ryan Williams

Lamar Miller

(2) 2013 1st Round Picks (Look to be Mid - Late)

 

[Instinctive]

Zealots TradeTeam A gave up:Cribbs, Josh CLE WRHolmes, Santonio NYJ WRYear 2013 Round 3 Draft PickYear 2013 Round 5 Draft PickTeam B gave up:Rudolph, Kyle MIN TEKuechly, Luke CAR LBYear 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick

Steal for team A. 3 pieces of value for 1 major headache

Team A is strong at WR, Team B very weak there.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Zealots TradeTeam A gave up:Cribbs, Josh CLE WRHolmes, Santonio NYJ WRYear 2013 Round 3 Draft PickYear 2013 Round 5 Draft PickTeam B gave up:Rudolph, Kyle MIN TEKuechly, Luke CAR LBYear 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick

Steal for team A. 3 pieces of value for 1 major headache

Team A is strong at WR, Team B very weak there.

Trading for Cribbs and Holmes at WR isn't making him any less weak at the position. Its not even a bandaid. Maybe Holmes, but its risky.

 

[getsmartt]

.25PPR + Return Yards

Trade 1

I gave

Olsen + 2012 3.02

For

Lynch + J. Ford

Trade 2

I gave

Lynch + Decker

For

Bradshaw + Harvin

Trade 3

I gave

SJax

for

S. Smith (CAR)

 

[Dawg Pound 69]

12 Team PPRTeam A gave upoug MartinTeam B gave up:Ryan WilliamsLamar Miller(2) 2013 1st Round Picks (Look to be Mid - Late)

That's a helluva haul for Martin. Give me Team A's side.

 

[nickdib]

.25PPR + Return YardsTrade 1I gaveOlsen + 2012 3.02ForLynch + J. Ford

Nice job. That's a really cheap price for marshawn and ford

 

[loose circuits]

Zealots TradeTeam A gave up:Cribbs, Josh CLE WRHolmes, Santonio NYJ WRYear 2013 Round 3 Draft PickYear 2013 Round 5 Draft PickTeam B gave up:Rudolph, Kyle MIN TEKuechly, Luke CAR LBYear 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick

Steal for team A. 3 pieces of value for 1 major headache

Team A is strong at WR, Team B very weak there.

Trading for Cribbs and Holmes at WR isn't making him any less weak at the position. Its not even a bandaid. Maybe Holmes, but its risky.

Not like he gave up a bunch

 

[loose circuits]

Honestly, I wouldn't mind having the Julio side, but I like my WRs in dynasty.

Me too. Plus, I still wouldn't be surprised to see Stewart having a better three or four years than Foster. I know everyone thinks Foster is the best, but I think Stewart will be a top 3 RB if he ever gets into the right situation. And JJ will be a stud for the next 10 years. Foster will be lucky to be a top stud for three more.

I wouldn't trade Julio for 1.01

 

[GECKO]

.25PPR + Return YardsTrade 1I gaveOlsen + 2012 3.02ForLynch + J. Ford

Nice job. That's a really cheap price for marshawn and ford

Agreed

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Maclin

Cobb

Ryan Williams

For

Nicks

Quiz Rodgers

Tamme

2013 second round pick

2014 first and second round pick

 

[Catbird]

Ten team, .5 ppr, full dynasty, start 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T plus 2 non-Q FLEX (so fairly deep lineups)

Team A Gives up S.Smith (CAR) and Quizz

Team B gives up M.LeShoure and R.Cobb

(factor: A owns Kev.Smith)

 

[Sebowski]

I wouldn't trade 1.5 or better for Julio.

 

[lbouchard]

I wouldn't trade 1.5 or better for Julio.

I pray this is sarcasm

 

[finito]

MaclinCobbRyan WilliamsForNicksQuiz RodgersTamme2013 second round pick2014 first and second round pick

Nicks side for me by a lot.

 

[The Clamface]

Gave

Big Ben

1.10

2013 1st round

Got

1.07

 

[Buckna]

MaclinCobbRyan WilliamsForNicksQuiz RodgersTamme2013 second round pick2014 first and second round pick

Nicks side for me by a lot.

I wouldn't trade Nicks by himself for that and I'm a huge Maclin fan.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

MaclinCobbRyan WilliamsForNicksQuiz RodgersTamme2013 second round pick2014 first and second round pick

Why is the Nicks side giving up the picks here? It should be the other way around.

 

[Team Legacy]

pprTeam A gives: Torrey Smith

Team B gives: Blackmon and a 2013 2nd

 

[Team Legacy]

2ppr TEs

Team A gives: Rob Housler

Team B gives: 2013 Round 2

ppr

Team A gives: Maclin

Team B gives: David WIlson

ppr

Team A gives: Steve Smith

Team B gives: CJ Spiller

 

[lbouchard]

GaveBig Ben 1.102013 1st round Got 1.07

You gave up a lot of value to move up 3 spots.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Im trying to snag dez bryant in a league. Whats he going for lately?

 

[Penguin]

Zealots

Team A gives: Mychal Kendricks PHI LB

Team B gives: James Casey TE Hou

Team A gives: 2013 2nd & 3rd

Team B gives: Randell Cobb WR GB

Team A gives: Mike Tolbert RB Car, Chris Givens WR Stl, 2013 4th

Team B gives: Brandon Lloyd WR NE

 

[getsmartt]

Im trying to snag dez bryant in a league. Whats he going for lately?

He gave up Bryant, Dez DAL WR;Ngata, Haloti BAL DT; Year 2012 Draft Pick 3.04I gave up Johnson, Steve BUF WR;Hernandez, Aaron NEP TE10 Team .5ppr IDP

 

[getsmartt]

Just pulled this one off...

He Gave

Bryant, Dez DAL WR

Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.05

Year 2012 Draft Pick 5.04

I Gave

Jackson, DeSean PHI WR

Year 2012 Draft Pick 3.01

Year 2012 Draft Pick 4.05

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I wouldn't trade 1.5 or better for Julio.

Then you're seriously misjudging the value involved.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Just pulled this one off...He Gave Bryant, Dez DAL WR Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.05 Year 2012 Draft Pick 5.04I Gave Jackson, DeSean PHI WR Year 2012 Draft Pick 3.01 Year 2012 Draft Pick 4.05

wow

 

[Slider]

MaclinCobbRyan WilliamsForNicksQuiz RodgersTamme2013 second round pick2014 first and second round pick

I think it's an even trade. Love Maclin and Cobb to be studs for a long time. Nicks is great but if he gets hurt...I'd probably take the Maclin/Cobb side

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Im trying to snag dez bryant in a league. Whats he going for lately?

Posted a Dez trade a page or two back where I overpaid for him, hold on...he's very expensive right now in many leagues with all the good press.Edit: Guess I never posted it!Basically it was:Gave:BoweAustin2014 1stGotezWayneI know I overpaid. I know either one of the WR's I gave up, or both, could conceivably outscore Dez this year and for years after if things don't go as planned. I don't care, I got my guy. I've got Dez as a top-5 dynasty WR and think he's going to be a stud, as immature as he's been as a pro in the past. I'm sure he's going for cheaper than this in some leagues, but its also probably that whoever owns Dez in your league by now is probably another owner with a man-crush on him.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Just pulled this one off...He Gave Bryant, Dez DAL WR Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.05 Year 2012 Draft Pick 5.04I Gave Jackson, DeSean PHI WR Year 2012 Draft Pick 3.01 Year 2012 Draft Pick 4.05

You're all over DLF with your trade rapes as well. We get it. You play in a league(s?) with huge idiots. GIANT idiots. Your trades are not a representation of normal value in dynasty leagues. They are helping no one in this thread or on DLF.