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2013 Closers (1 Viewer)

Ned Yost gives Aaron Crow the ball in the 9th today just to #### with us.
He said last night that Herrera and Holland were both likely unavailable today because they had pitched on consecutive days.

Complete meltdown by Mitchell Boggs, two hits and four walks so far.

 
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Axford was just dropped in my league. I checked his stats and he is AWFUL in the spring so I'll pick up him and see what he can do (this is why I don't draft closers). He might be a good buy-low if the owner is antsy, or stupid in my leagues case.
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This has been an absolutely brutal start of the season for closers.
:goodposting: im getting more and more on board with drafting some solid closers and pray they stay healthy.
There was a FBG poster many years ago (on Old Yeller) whose name I can't recall, who had played baseball at Seton Hall with Jason Grilli. I remember he came on the board when Grilli was drafted and really built the guy up, saying he was the next big thing. That hasn't exactly happened, but Grilli way deep into his career, finally getting his big shot as a closer, seems so far to have taken to the job quite well.

 
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This has been an absolutely brutal start of the season for closers.
:goodposting: im getting more and more on board with drafting some solid closers and pray they stay healthy.
Really? Guys like Axford and Holland were considered "solid closers" just a week ago. If anything, this makes me more certain that ignoring closers in the draft is the way to go.

Of course, I dont really think the start to this season is any different than other seasons. Other than the top 3-4 guys, they all have short leashes.

 
Boggs was awful today. Had a blown save a few days ago, and now this.

Anyone to look at here?
Rosenthal I'd assume.

Too bad that's who I dropped to pick up Herrera.
Rosenthal hasn't looked good either. St Louis is in a holding pattern till Motte can get back.
Define "looked good"
Not that you can base it on one pitch, but did you happen to see the pitch where Molina setup a foot outside to Hanigan and the pitch was inside off the plate and Hanigan fouled it sideways and it hit Molina. Such an awkward play. Anyway, between that one and the one that hit Frazier, he wasn't even close with a few. Only saw him yesterday though.

 
This has been an absolutely brutal start of the season for closers.
:goodposting: im getting more and more on board with drafting some solid closers and pray they stay healthy.
We had a guy running late for the auction and was on autodraft for the first little bit. We have a league full of guys that don't want to pay money for closers, so we were trying to stick it to him as his autobid kept bidding on top closers.

He ended up getting Kimbrel, Soriano, and Mo for just a couple bucks more than most mid-level closers ended up going for as people started scrambling a little bit just to get some closers.

I still wouldn't go paying big money for closers, but certainly, there's some value to be exploited as so many would rather get cheap closers late than pay for the better guys.

 
This has been an absolutely brutal start of the season for closers.
:goodposting: im getting more and more on board with drafting some solid closers and pray they stay healthy.
Really? Guys like Axford and Holland were considered "solid closers" just a week ago. If anything, this makes me more certain that ignoring closers in the draft is the way to go.

Of course, I dont really think the start to this season is any different than other seasons. Other than the top 3-4 guys, they all have short leashes.
No one has considered Axford "solid" for quite some time.

 
This has been an absolutely brutal start of the season for closers.
:goodposting: im getting more and more on board with drafting some solid closers and pray they stay healthy.
Really? Guys like Axford and Holland were considered "solid closers" just a week ago. If anything, this makes me more certain that ignoring closers in the draft is the way to go.

Of course, I dont really think the start to this season is any different than other seasons. Other than the top 3-4 guys, they all have short leashes.
No one has considered Axford "solid" for quite some time.
His ADP was around 150 and he was somewhere in the third or fourth tier of most rankings. His solidness came more from the lack of good alternatives than any extended history of success.

 
Eephus said:
shuke said:
E-Z Glider said:
Annyong said:
dparker713 said:
This has been an absolutely brutal start of the season for closers.
:goodposting: im getting more and more on board with drafting some solid closers and pray they stay healthy.
Really? Guys like Axford and Holland were considered "solid closers" just a week ago. If anything, this makes me more certain that ignoring closers in the draft is the way to go.

Of course, I dont really think the start to this season is any different than other seasons. Other than the top 3-4 guys, they all have short leashes.
No one has considered Axford "solid" for quite some time.
His ADP was around 150 and he was somewhere in the third or fourth tier of most rankings. His solidness came more from the lack of good alternatives than any extended history of success.
I know Henderson is the guy taking over there, but he isnt exactly dominant. Alfredo Figaro has good stuff and could be a sleeper there for guys in NL-only leagues or really deep mixed leagues, especially if you can stash him.

 
Eephus said:
shuke said:
E-Z Glider said:
Annyong said:
dparker713 said:
This has been an absolutely brutal start of the season for closers.
:goodposting: im getting more and more on board with drafting some solid closers and pray they stay healthy.
Really? Guys like Axford and Holland were considered "solid closers" just a week ago. If anything, this makes me more certain that ignoring closers in the draft is the way to go.

Of course, I dont really think the start to this season is any different than other seasons. Other than the top 3-4 guys, they all have short leashes.
No one has considered Axford "solid" for quite some time.
His ADP was around 150 and he was somewhere in the third or fourth tier of most rankings. His solidness came more from the lack of good alternatives than any extended history of success.
I know Henderson is the guy taking over there, but he isnt exactly dominant. Alfredo Figaro has good stuff and could be a sleeper there for guys in NL-only leagues or really deep mixed leagues, especially if you can stash him.
/rotowire

Word for word

 
Eephus said:
shuke said:
E-Z Glider said:
Annyong said:
dparker713 said:
This has been an absolutely brutal start of the season for closers.
:goodposting: im getting more and more on board with drafting some solid closers and pray they stay healthy.
Really? Guys like Axford and Holland were considered "solid closers" just a week ago. If anything, this makes me more certain that ignoring closers in the draft is the way to go.

Of course, I dont really think the start to this season is any different than other seasons. Other than the top 3-4 guys, they all have short leashes.
No one has considered Axford "solid" for quite some time.
His ADP was around 150 and he was somewhere in the third or fourth tier of most rankings. His solidness came more from the lack of good alternatives than any extended history of success.
I know Henderson is the guy taking over there, but he isnt exactly dominant. Alfredo Figaro has good stuff and could be a sleeper there for guys in NL-only leagues or really deep mixed leagues, especially if you can stash him.
/rotowire

Word for word
Seriously? Are you really trying to say that fantasy advice is copied from another site? Link please, or go F yourself. I dont even read rotowire. Last I checked it was a pay site and I refuse to pay for fantasy advice from a website.

Again, link please.

 
Figaro was a starter in Japan last year. He has one SV as a professional, in rookie ball for the Tigers organization. Anything can happen in baseball but right now, he'd have to be somewhere after Mike Gonzalez, Kintzler and a return Axford engagement in the Brewers' pecking order.

He does have a cool name though.

 
@LangoschMLB 21m
Jason Motte's MRI shows tear to ligament. #STLCards will give him until May 1 to show improvement; if none, then likely Tommy John surgery.
 
Eephus said:
shuke said:
E-Z Glider said:
Annyong said:
dparker713 said:
This has been an absolutely brutal start of the season for closers.
:goodposting: im getting more and more on board with drafting some solid closers and pray they stay healthy.
Really? Guys like Axford and Holland were considered "solid closers" just a week ago. If anything, this makes me more certain that ignoring closers in the draft is the way to go.

Of course, I dont really think the start to this season is any different than other seasons. Other than the top 3-4 guys, they all have short leashes.
No one has considered Axford "solid" for quite some time.
His ADP was around 150 and he was somewhere in the third or fourth tier of most rankings. His solidness came more from the lack of good alternatives than any extended history of success.
I know Henderson is the guy taking over there, but he isnt exactly dominant. Alfredo Figaro has good stuff and could be a sleeper there for guys in NL-only leagues or really deep mixed leagues, especially if you can stash him.
/rotowire

Word for word
Seriously? Are you really trying to say that fantasy advice is copied from another site? Link please, or go F yourself. I dont even read rotowire. Last I checked it was a pay site and I refuse to pay for fantasy advice from a website.

Again, link please.
I thought it was great analysis. :shrug:

 
Holland got the save today but gave up a hit, two walks and threw 27 pitches. That just can't continue.

Go Herrera!!!!!!

 
Fujikawa does not look like a legit closer out there. His fastball is lively, but topped out at 94. Control was not good and he benefited from some borderline calls and poor swings by the Brewers. He left at least two low-90s fastballs out over the heart of the plate with a man on. I hope we can chalk it up to the rough weather conditions, but I fear Fuji will not be long for the job. Not sure who else they have though. Marmol? Russell?

 
If anyone was worried after Monday, the Cards tried to get Boggs a save last night. Warmed him up and brought him in, but they scored a run in B8 to make it a 4 run lead so no save.

 
Didn't take long for Soriano to start pissing me off. I was worried about it the second I drafted him. I think he may be more poser than closer.

 
shuke said:
E-Z Glider said:
Annyong said:
dparker713 said:
This has been an absolutely brutal start of the season for closers.
:goodposting: im getting more and more on board with drafting some solid closers and pray they stay healthy.
Really? Guys like Axford and Holland were considered "solid closers" just a week ago. If anything, this makes me more certain that ignoring closers in the draft is the way to go.

Of course, I dont really think the start to this season is any different than other seasons. Other than the top 3-4 guys, they all have short leashes.
No one has considered Axford "solid" for quite some time.
What about Holland, Motte, Soriano?

I dont know why Im trying to change anyone's mind on this? Keep drafting those closers early and often!

 
Fujikawa does not look like a legit closer out there. His fastball is lively, but topped out at 94. Control was not good and he benefited from some borderline calls and poor swings by the Brewers. He left at least two low-90s fastballs out over the heart of the plate with a man on. I hope we can chalk it up to the rough weather conditions, but I fear Fuji will not be long for the job. Not sure who else they have though. Marmol? Russell?
But the sharp tailing action makes it a legit closer fastball and hard for hitters to handle. He hasn't controlled either the fastball or split consistently yet though. If the control is there, he has two 60 or 70 pitches.

 
boubucarow said:
pantagrapher said:
Fujikawa does not look like a legit closer out there. His fastball is lively, but topped out at 94. Control was not good and he benefited from some borderline calls and poor swings by the Brewers. He left at least two low-90s fastballs out over the heart of the plate with a man on. I hope we can chalk it up to the rough weather conditions, but I fear Fuji will not be long for the job. Not sure who else they have though. Marmol? Russell?
But the sharp tailing action makes it a legit closer fastball and hard for hitters to handle. He hasn't controlled either the fastball or split consistently yet though. If the control is there, he has two 60 or 70 pitches.
Rondon seems to be pitching well. Small sample size, but 6 K's in 3 2/3 innings pretty good. I know he used to be a starter, but it wouldnt be the first time a starter was converted into a closer.

 
boubucarow said:
pantagrapher said:
Fujikawa does not look like a legit closer out there. His fastball is lively, but topped out at 94. Control was not good and he benefited from some borderline calls and poor swings by the Brewers. He left at least two low-90s fastballs out over the heart of the plate with a man on. I hope we can chalk it up to the rough weather conditions, but I fear Fuji will not be long for the job. Not sure who else they have though. Marmol? Russell?
But the sharp tailing action makes it a legit closer fastball and hard for hitters to handle. He hasn't controlled either the fastball or split consistently yet though. If the control is there, he has two 60 or 70 pitches.
Rondon seems to be pitching well. Small sample size, but 6 K's in 3 2/3 innings pretty good. I know he used to be a starter, but it wouldnt be the first time a starter was converted into a closer.
He is looking pretty good. His slider/slurve can be dominating and his fastball (velocity and command) has improved since his first outing. Of course, he has been out a long time so I suspect his stuff will get more consistent if he can stay healthy. Sveum is showing trust in him and I could see him creep up the pecking order in the back of the bullpen this year.
 
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Kelvin Herrera is filthy, he'll be closing games sooner than later.
Having the best stuff in the bullpen is hardly a guarentee of getting the closer job.
How secure is Holland's job? How is Kershaw's hip?

How many dumb things will you say this baseball season?

All good questions...
Holland's job is fine; he got a night off. Kershaw's hip is fine right now, still more of a concern than Strasburg's elbow.

Less than you by an order of magnitude.

All correct answers.

 
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