2013 Closers (2 Viewers)

[Eephus]

Kevin Gregg was not a good reliever the past two years. Crazier things may have happened, but I would be shocked if he got a shot at the closers role. He certainly won't be on my fantasy team.

Serious Business.

I'll take a shot.

Even I have my standards

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Kevin Gregg was not a good reliever the past two years. Crazier things may have happened, but I would be shocked if he got a shot at the closers role. He certainly won't be on my fantasy team.

Serious Business.

I'll take a shot.

Even I have my standards

Yeah, I don't have the stomach for Kevin Gregg anymore.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Kevin Gregg was not a good reliever the past two years. Crazier things may have happened, but I would be shocked if he got a shot at the closers role. He certainly won't be on my fantasy team.

Serious Business.

I'll take a shot.

Even I have my standards

Yeah, I don't have the stomach for Kevin Gregg anymore.

I watch almost every oriole game. He was BAD the past couple of years. Buck wouldn't use him if the game was within 3-4 runs for half of last year.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Kevin Gregg was not a good reliever the past two years. Crazier things may have happened, but I would be shocked if he got a shot at the closers role. He certainly won't be on my fantasy team.

Serious Business.

I'll take a shot.

Even I have my standards

Yeah, I don't have the stomach for Kevin Gregg anymore.

I watch almost every oriole game. He was BAD the past couple of years. Buck wouldn't use him if the game was within 3-4 runs for half of last year.

Yeah I've had to deal with Todd Jones and then Valverde so I know the feeling. Jones caused more pain than Gregg, to blow a save he'd walk a guy, single, infield single, back to back K's and then a double. With Gregg it's double, K, double, homer...just like that it's over.

 

[Eephus]

Kevin Gregg was not a good reliever the past two years. Crazier things may have happened, but I would be shocked if he got a shot at the closers role. He certainly won't be on my fantasy team.

Serious Business.

I'll take a shot.

Even I have my standards

Yeah, I don't have the stomach for Kevin Gregg anymore.

I watch almost every oriole game. He was BAD the past couple of years. Buck wouldn't use him if the game was within 3-4 runs for half of last year.

Yeah I've had to deal with Todd Jones and then Valverde so I know the feeling. Jones caused more pain than Gregg, to blow a save he'd walk a guy, single, infield single, back to back K's and then a double. With Gregg it's double, K, double, homer...just like that it's over.

Any Todd Jones reference is a good excuse to post this

 

[PIK95]

I picked up Marmol and dropped Valverde in another league so I'm hedging a bit.

 

[Northern Voice]

Cubs leading 2-1 in the 7th, will be interesting to see how that circus plays out tonight

 

[Eephus]

Cubs leading 2-1 in the 7th, will be interesting to see how that circus plays out tonight

About how you'd expect

 

[Northern Voice]

Cubs leading 2-1 in the 7th, will be interesting to see how that circus plays out tonight

About how you'd expect

Interesting that they used Russell and Camp in the 7th.

 

[Eephus]

Cubs leading 2-1 in the 7th, will be interesting to see how that circus plays out tonight

About how you'd expect

Interesting that they used Russell and Camp in the 7th.

You're assuming Dale Sveum has a plan

 

[Doctor Detroit]

MUJICA!!!!

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Kevin Gregg was not a good reliever the past two years. Crazier things may have happened, but I would be shocked if he got a shot at the closers role. He certainly won't be on my fantasy team.

Serious Business.

I'll take a shot.

Even I have my standards

Yeah, I don't have the stomach for Kevin Gregg anymore.

I watch almost every oriole game. He was BAD the past couple of years. Buck wouldn't use him if the game was within 3-4 runs for half of last year.

Yeah I've had to deal with Todd Jones and then Valverde so I know the feeling. Jones caused more pain than Gregg, to blow a save he'd walk a guy, single, infield single, back to back K's and then a double. With Gregg it's double, K, double, homer...just like that it's over.

Any Todd Jones reference is a good excuse to post this

 

[pollardsvision]

Cubs leading 2-1 in the 7th, will be interesting to see how that circus plays out tonight

About how you'd expect

Interesting that they used Russell and Camp in the 7th.

You're assuming Dale Sveum has a plan

I think Sveum did say last week that Russell, his one RP pitching well, would definitely not be closing, so at least he's following that plan.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Marmol was brought into a tie game, bottom of the 9th.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Who is the more valuable closer to have? Andrew Bailey or Jim Henderson? I'm looking to deal one and not sure which one to make sure I keep.

Thanks

 

[Eephus]

Cubs leading 2-1 in the 7th, will be interesting to see how that circus plays out tonight

About how you'd expect

Interesting that they used Russell and Camp in the 7th.

You're assuming Dale Sveum has a plan

I think Sveum did say last week that Russell, his one RP pitching well, would definitely not be closing, so at least he's following that plan.

Yeah, I'm being too hard on him. Russell is also their only LHP in the pen since Takahashi was DFAed. Bringing him in for a high leverage situation against two left handed bats in the 7th makes sense. It didn't work out for him though.

 

[pollardsvision]

Who is the more valuable closer to have? Andrew Bailey or Jim Henderson? I'm looking to deal one and not sure which one to make sure I keep.

Thanks

I think they are pretty similar, butI I'd go with Henderson.

I could see Hanrahan maybe getting the "you can't lose your job from injury" treatment when he gets back. Axford just stinks.

Henderson will keep the job if he pitches well. Bailey might too, but that's a little tougher call.

 

[PIK95]

Marmol just threw two solid innings. Still 2-2 in the 11th AND LOOK WHOSE WARMING UP!

 

[RnR]

Who is the more valuable closer to have? Andrew Bailey or Jim Henderson? I'm looking to deal one and not sure which one to make sure I keep.

Thanks

I think they are pretty similar, butI I'd go with Henderson.

I could see Hanrahan maybe getting the "you can't lose your job from injury" treatment when he gets back. Axford just stinks.

Henderson will keep the job if he pitches well. Bailey might too, but that's a little tougher call.

If you're going to be reliant on one them for the rest of the season, I don't think you can afford to deal one at this point. Need to wait it out and make sure you have a long-term solution.

 

[PIK95]

MUJICA!!!!

Viva LA Mantiquilla!

 

[the moops]

Gregg is totally gonna blow this

 

[Eephus]

Bruce Rondon is not in AAA

 

[the moops]

Bruce Rondon is not in AAA

AA?

 

[Eephus]

Bruce Rondon is not in AAA

AA?

The Show!

 

[RnR]

Bruce Rondon is not in AAA

AA?

The Show!

Back the FAAB truck up boys, its Christmas Day!

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Bruce Rondon is not in AAA

AA?

The Show!

Back the FAAB truck up boys, its Christmas Day!

A little lump of coal in your stocking?

 

[the moops]

Is he better to have than Jose ####### Veras?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Looks like Valverde will get the call, possibly as soon as this week. For this season I'd say Valverde will get the first shot at claiming the closers roll, then Rondon, then I would think they would make a trade. I'm a big Benoit guy but he is built as a set-up guy, I just don't see that lasting. Valverde probably gets worked in and if his stuff is what they say it is (93-95 mph fastball and splitter working), then he'll get to close.

Rondon is not a terrible hold though because he is a high K guy and he'll be used as a bridge I'd guess, with a chance to claim the closers role if Valverde falters. That's how I see it anyway.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Marmol

 

[Wrigley]

Marmol

 

[shadyridr]

What do you guys see for Aroldis Chapman now that he's officially the closer?Projections? Rank? Wondering if he can be a sneaky grab in a draft tonight.

I dont know about sneaky unless guys just arent paying attention. Goes near the top of the list imo

This is more than laid back, hoping a few guys missed the news and I can grab him after half the league (4-5/10) takes a RP depending on spot. If not, any suggestions for mid-later RP's in a 5x5? VERY limited transactions during the year so may not be able to pick up guys as they step up during the year.

Grilli and janssen are both good pitchers that should thrive in the closer role.

Grilli has a career ERA of 4.34 and a WHIP of 1.413. He's 36 and has 5 career saves. Now, he's coming off two good years (had a great year last year, though that K-rate is not typical for him and his GB/FB ratio was way below career norms) and perhaps he's a late bloomer, but this guy has been garbage for the bulk of his time in the majors. I'm not seeing 'thrive' but maybe I'm wrong.

thriving

 

[Limp Ditka]

Marmol

Amazing ability to just suck at the most important times. The guy owns Votto and simply didn't stand a chance in that AB

 

[Limp Ditka]

So... who takes over for the arrow?

 

[Limp Ditka]

KEVIN GREGG!

 

[PIK95]

KEVIN GREGG!

Yes sir!

 

[sporthenry]

Time to pick up Gregg and drop Marmol?

 

[PIK95]

Time to pick up Gregg and drop Marmol?

I wouldn't go that far.

 

[pantagrapher]

Time to pick up Gregg and drop Marmol?

Marmol was in for the save after pitching two innings the previous night. I'm thinking he and Russell are still the two to own for now. The guy allowed a hit to Votto for the second time in 16 ABs. It wasn't like he stunk up the joint. That said, why they didn't pitch around him with first base open is beyond me.

 

[pollardsvision]

Anybody sneaking in a cheap Rondon bid on the back of the Valverde news?

It's either that or bid on Gregg, which I just don't want to do and certainly don't want to do without him actually being a closer yet.

 

[MAC_32]

Time to pick up Gregg and drop Marmol?

Marmol was in for the save after pitching two innings the previous night. I'm thinking he and Russell are still the two to own for now. The guy allowed a hit to Votto for the second time in 16 ABs. It wasn't like he stunk up the joint. That said, why they didn't pitch around him with first base open is beyond me.

I can't let a few good games from Marmol in a row cloud all the bad he's done over the last couple of years. I now have Gregg and Russel in my deep league to try to cover losing Motte. Fingers crossed...

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Cubs should see what Jorge Julio is up to these days.

Spoiler

I'd say around 350 pounds

 

[RnR]

Cubs should see what Jorge Julio is up to these days.

Spoiler

I'd say around 350 pounds

Shocking stat of the day (for me at least): Jorge just turned 34 years old. Still plenty of time for a comeback.

 

[pantagrapher]

Time to pick up Gregg and drop Marmol?

Marmol was in for the save after pitching two innings the previous night. I'm thinking he and Russell are still the two to own for now. The guy allowed a hit to Votto for the second time in 16 ABs. It wasn't like he stunk up the joint. That said, why they didn't pitch around him with first base open is beyond me.

I can't let a few good games from Marmol in a row cloud all the bad he's done over the last couple of years. I now have Gregg and Russel in my deep league to try to cover losing Motte. Fingers crossed...

I have Fuji, Marmol, and Mujica. We're like bizarro twins.

 

[shadyridr]

This thread is the one (and only) reason im glad im in a points league

 

[Wrigley]

I own Rivera, Perkins, Balfour, and Henderson as my closers.....is adding Valverde too much...or great trade-bait?

 

[Limp Ditka]

I own Rivera, Perkins, Balfour, and Henderson as my closers.....is adding Valverde too much...or great trade-bait?

Same boat in one of my leagues. 4 good closers, can start 4 RP slots. Just trying to figure out which piece to drop to fit him on my roster.

 

[pollardsvision]

I own Rivera, Perkins, Balfour, and Henderson as my closers.....is adding Valverde too much...or great trade-bait?

Barring some sort of really unique league, I would find any way possible to always make sure anyone who's a likely closer is owned.

Perfect trade-bait. That stupid saves category makes closers the best tradeable assets. It's often something one team can spare while another is desperate.

Most importantly, it's the thing teams can see clearly that they need. Teams that are weak in the other categories can generally convince themselves they are not, but they usually can't do that with saves.

 

[Eephus]

I own Rivera, Perkins, Balfour, and Henderson as my closers.....is adding Valverde too much...or great trade-bait?

Barring some sort of really unique league, I would find any way possible to always make sure anyone who's a likely closer is owned. Perfect trade-bait. That stupid saves category makes closers the best tradeable assets. It's often something one team can spare while another is desperate. Most importantly, it's the thing teams can see clearly that they need. Teams that are weak in the other categories can generally convince themselves they are not, but they usually can't do that with saves.

for Roto redrafts, you can also bank SVs early in the year and flip closers for other useful assets at the deadline.

 

[Northern Voice]

Time to pick up Gregg and drop Marmol?

Marmol was in for the save after pitching two innings the previous night. I'm thinking he and Russell are still the two to own for now. The guy allowed a hit to Votto for the second time in 16 ABs. It wasn't like he stunk up the joint. That said, why they didn't pitch around him with first base open is beyond me.

I can't let a few good games from Marmol in a row cloud all the bad he's done over the last couple of years. I now have Gregg.

This doesn't make sense, Gregg has been just as bad in recent years.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Time to pick up Gregg and drop Marmol?

Marmol was in for the save after pitching two innings the previous night. I'm thinking he and Russell are still the two to own for now. The guy allowed a hit to Votto for the second time in 16 ABs. It wasn't like he stunk up the joint. That said, why they didn't pitch around him with first base open is beyond me.

I can't let a few good games from Marmol in a row cloud all the bad he's done over the last couple of years. I now have Gregg.

This doesn't make sense, Gregg has been just as bad in recent years.

Gregg has had a 1.67 WHIP the past two years, his K/9 isn't as good as Marmol's and his ERA is worse. I hate Marmol and think he's >>>Gregg