2013 Dynasty "Sell High" (1 Viewer)

[Concept Coop]

Cobb needed two injuries to even have the season he did.

cough http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/6994827/injuries-knock-new-york-giants-mario-manningham-domenik-hixon

Cruz is a flanker who can play the slot. Cobb is a slot guy.

 

[jonboltz]

And I don't think Cobb = Harvin. He's a poor man's version, in my opinion.

In the same sense that AJ Green is a poor man's version of Calvin Johnson, sure.

In some way, yes. But the number of slot players who are threats to have fantasy WR1's is much smaller than those that play on the outside. Being a poor man's Clavin doesn't limit your snap count.

Roddy White on Victor Cruz: “He’s Just a Slot Guy, The Big Boys Play Outside” I think marking that as a limitation isn't quite right. Not with 2 other slot WR also in the top 10 and neither named Welker. Please project Cobb's snap count over the next 5-7 seasons. At some point this is all hot air. Either you think he's going to deliver on elite production (if not now then soon) or you think he's fool's gold. Is the risk really that high?

Not sure if you read that entire article, or just saw the title and posted it..."While Cruz does spend a lot of time in the slot, he also torched a lot of teams from the traditional outside position. Also it speaks to Cruz’s versatility that he is able to play pretty much anywhere on the field."

 

[jonboltz]

i don't get it. if you look back, the best time to sell jordy was in the offseason. you didn't make the right decision by holding onto him through this year. if you think he will rebound, thats a different story. he would actually be a buy low in this case, since his value is clearly in a dip.

Can't really predict injury.

 

[Concept Coop]

Not sure if you read that entire article, or just saw the title and posted it..."While Cruz does spend a lot of time in the slot, he also torched a lot of teams from the traditional outside position. Also it speaks to Cruz’s versatility that he is able to play pretty much anywhere on the field."

"Roddy White is a very good player, but he isn’t the brightest guy around. He often puts his foot in his mouth when you put a microphone or laptop in front of him."

 

[thriftyrocker]

Cobb needed two injuries to even have the season he did.

cough http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/6994827/injuries-knock-new-york-giants-mario-manningham-domenik-hixon

Cruz is a flanker who can play the slot. Cobb is a slot guy.

I would neither say Cobb can only play the slot nor say his upside is capped if he only plays the slot. He ran deep routes all year and there's reports of his route tree developing last year.

Not sure if you read that entire article, or just saw the title and posted it...

"While Cruz does spend a lot of time in the slot, he also torched a lot of teams from the traditional outside position. Also it speaks to Cruz’s versatility that he is able to play pretty much anywhere on the field."

The title was the interesting part, but please stop me if the consensus is that Cobb has limited versatility. Cruz is pretty much synonymous with torched, but Cobb has speed and has used it.

 

[jonboltz]

The title was the interesting part, but please stop me if the consensus is that Cobb has limited versatility. Cruz is pretty much synonymous with torched, but Cobb has speed and has used it.

He is certainly versatile enough to be used out of the backfield, the slot, and of course the return game. It is not certain that he is versatile enough to play out wide.

 

[Concept Coop]

Cobb needed two injuries to even have the season he did.

cough http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/6994827/injuries-knock-new-york-giants-mario-manningham-domenik-hixon

Cruz is a flanker who can play the slot. Cobb is a slot guy.

I would neither say Cobb can only play the slot nor say his upside is capped if he only plays the slot. He ran deep routes all year and there's reports of his route tree developing last year.

Not sure if you read that entire article, or just saw the title and posted it...

"While Cruz does spend a lot of time in the slot, he also torched a lot of teams from the traditional outside position. Also it speaks to Cruz’s versatility that he is able to play pretty much anywhere on the field."

The title was the interesting part, but please stop me if the consensus is that Cobb has limited versatility. Cruz is pretty much synonymous with torched, but Cobb has speed and has used it.

It's not about speed. It's about being able to handle man-to-man coverage on the outside and all that entails. The farther away from the QB a WR lines up, the bigger issue his size is. Cobb would have to deal with jams at the LOS and instead of lining up against line-backers and nickel corners, he's got the teams best corner - who will often be bigger than him - right in his face. Steve Smith is rare - not many little guys can make a living on the outside and not be one dimensional (Jackson).

I'm not saying he can't do it - but it I don't know how effective he would be. And apparently the Packers like Nelson and Jones more there, too.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Steve Smith is rare - not many little guys can make a living on the outside and not be one dimensional (Jackson).

We are not arguing about Cobb's production if he lines up exclusively outside like Smith does. We are arguing about his production if GB uses him all over the field, and the likelihood of GB using him in that way. Cruz does not line up exclusively outside like Smith does. He lines up in the slot a lot, but also does deep routes and makes plays downfield.Greg Jennings lined up in the slot a lot in GB. He also burned people deep. Is that one inch height difference that significant?I guess I don't get the stigma. You act like we are talking about Amendola.

 

[Concept Coop]

We are not arguing about Cobb's production if he lines up exclusively outside like Smith does. We are arguing about his production if GB uses him all over the field, and the likelihood of GB using him in that way. Cruz does not line up exclusively outside like Smith does. He lines up in the slot a lot, but also does deep routes and makes plays downfield.

Why line him up on the outside at all, when Jones and Jordy are healthy? They have no reason to, both of them do just fine. Cobb is a better football player than Jones, but I don't know if he is a better X-WR.

Greg Jennings lined up in the slot a lot in GB. He also burned people deep. Is that one inch height difference that significant?

Jennings could handle the press coverage and get open. He is also bigger and stronger than Cobb, as well as a bigger deep threat.

I guess I don't get the stigma. You act like we are talking about Amendola.

If the Packers decide that Cobb is best in the slot and that they have better options on the outside, which they pretty clearly did this year, he's a slot player.

 

[ShaHBucks]

As long as A. Rodgers is throwing Cobb the ball he will be a factor. his value is tied to Jennings. If I had the chance I would move him for a better talent, but you can't really deny the opportunity. What about some holdout candidates? I think Percy Harvin has a chance to pull a V-Jax if he doesn't get the contract he wants.

 

[Concept Coop]

As long as A. Rodgers is throwing Cobb the ball he will be a factor. his value is tied to Jennings. If I had the chance I would move him for a better talent, but you can't really deny the opportunity. What about some holdout candidates? I think Percy Harvin has a chance to pull a V-Jax if he doesn't get the contract he wants.

It's not really tied to Jennings. He's a slot guy who needed two injuries to do what Maclin did a couple years ago. Enjoy.

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

Coop you're like a big baby who can't handle that people like Cobb. You said 10 posts ago that you were done with the conversation but you just keep going. Give it a rest

 

[Concept Coop]

Coop you're like a big baby who can't handle that people like Cobb. You said 10 posts ago that you were done with the conversation but you just keep going. Give it a rest

 

[MAC_32]

Dx looks like a sell high now, needed his value to marinate a few months. Got nicks for him and a second

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

Dx looks like a sell high now, needed his value to marinate a few months. Got nicks for him and a second

Dx?

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

If you're talking about Thomas i'd say that's crazy. Can someone explain what nicks offers? Because I just don't see it. Can't stay healthy and is average when he is on the field.

 

[EBF]

Think they're talking about Danario Alexander.Personally, I'd avoid him and his bionic knees.

 

[Andrew74]

Dx looks like a sell high now, needed his value to marinate a few months. Got nicks for him and a second

Dx?

Wow, I can't get any offers for DX (D. Alexander) in my league.

 

[ShaHBucks]

As long as A. Rodgers is throwing Cobb the ball he will be a factor. his value is tied to Jennings. If I had the chance I would move him for a better talent, but you can't really deny the opportunity. What about some holdout candidates? I think Percy Harvin has a chance to pull a V-Jax if he doesn't get the contract he wants.

It's not really tied to Jennings. He's a slot guy who needed two injuries to do what Maclin did a couple years ago. Enjoy.

I'm agreeing with you that he isn't an elite talent, but as long as Rodgers is throwing him the ball I'm interested. Jennings played in the slot a lot and he's 10x's better at it. If Jennings were to leave than Cobb could sustain a good amount of his production.

 

[dewmass]

Dx looks like a sell high now, needed his value to marinate a few months. Got nicks for him and a second

I'm going to try buy him as I'm a believer, but that price is ridiculous. Did you wear a mask when clicking accept?

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

Dx looks like a sell high now, needed his value to marinate a few months. Got nicks for him and a second

I'm going to try buy him as I'm a believer, but that price is ridiculous. Did you wear a mask when clicking accept?

Yes that's a terrible league. Nicks straight up for Alexander is iffy and then they threw in a second? Questionable moves make for questionable leagues.

 

[Donsmith753]

Got DX off waivers and I agree with EBF. I just can't see his knees holding up. I'm not selling him for peanuts though because he put up a lot of points last year.

 

[squistion]

Got DX off waivers and I agree with EBF. I just can't see his knees holding up. I'm not selling him for peanuts though because he put up a lot of points last year.

Unless someone in your league has been living under a rock, the knees issue is probaly already factored in the equation. So, while there might be an occasional trade where someone gets insane value (like him and a 2nd for Nicks) IMO he probably is not that overpriced in most leagues.

 

[Donsmith753]

Got DX off waivers and I agree with EBF. I just can't see his knees holding up. I'm not selling him for peanuts though because he put up a lot of points last year.

Unless someone in your league has been living under a rock, the knees issue is probaly already factored in the equation. So, while there might be an occasional trade where someone gets insane value (like him and a 2nd for Nicks) IMO he probably is not that overpriced in most leagues.

True. When you've paid nothing though it makes it a lot easier to enjoy the ride however long it lasts. Especially if the alternative is a 2nd round pick.

 

[JFS171]

I think he was saying he added the second to DX to upgrade to Nicks.I'd make that trade all day long, but I haven't gotten so much as a sniff on DX in my league. Perhaps that will change as we approach next season and people realize he's the clear #1 for Rivers and that offense. I also think his value could rise post-draft if SD actually invests in the offensive line.

 

[Pipes]

As long as A. Rodgers is throwing Cobb the ball he will be a factor. his value is tied to Jennings. If I had the chance I would move him for a better talent, but you can't really deny the opportunity. What about some holdout candidates? I think Percy Harvin has a chance to pull a V-Jax if he doesn't get the contract he wants.

It's not really tied to Jennings. He's a slot guy who needed two injuries to do what Maclin did a couple years ago. Enjoy.

You're ignoring the fact he's only 22 years old. Not all 1st and 2nd year guys tear up the league from day one. McCarthy and Rodgers have said numerous times that Cobb is a dynamic player and needs to get the ball more. Cobb also missed a full game and a good chunk of another with a leg injury while returning kicks....something he'll probably not do next year as he's too valuable to that offense.Jennings is as good as gone so that leaves Nelson Jones and Cobb. All 3 can be very productive in that offense. If I had to take one I'll take the 22 year old weapon on the upswing of his career. I view Nelson being right there with him but he relies more on the long passes and tds. I'd be willing to bet that Cobb is most targeted WR in GB next year and will be in the 1200 yard 10 TD range.

 

[Concept Coop]

As long as A. Rodgers is throwing Cobb the ball he will be a factor. his value is tied to Jennings. If I had the chance I would move him for a better talent, but you can't really deny the opportunity. What about some holdout candidates? I think Percy Harvin has a chance to pull a V-Jax if he doesn't get the contract he wants.

It's not really tied to Jennings. He's a slot guy who needed two injuries to do what Maclin did a couple years ago. Enjoy.

You're ignoring the fact he's only 22 years old. Not all 1st and 2nd year guys tear up the league from day one. McCarthy and Rodgers have said numerous times that Cobb is a dynamic player and needs to get the ball more. Cobb also missed a full game and a good chunk of another with a leg injury while returning kicks....something he'll probably not do next year as he's too valuable to that offenseJennings is as good as gone so that leaves Nelson Jones and Cobb. All 3 can be very productive in that offense. If I had to take one I'll take the 22 year old weapon on the upswing of his career. I view Nelson being right there with him but he relies more on the long passes and tds. I'd be willing to bet that Cobb is most targeted WR in GB next year and will be in the 1200 yard 10 TD range.

Did you look at the snap numbers? Seems some are over the conversation and I've said my part. Owners that assume - againt evidence to the contrary - that Cobb is going to take over for Jennings Will be disappointed. His cost now assumes it's a sure thing, and it's not even likely. 2012 was a good year for him - expect more of the same and value him accordingly.

 

[Concept Coop]

Got DX off waivers and I agree with EBF. I just can't see his knees holding up. I'm not selling him for peanuts though because he put up a lot of points last year.

Unless someone in your league has been living under a rock, the knees issue is probaly already factored in the equation. So, while there might be an occasional trade where someone gets insane value (like him and a 2nd for Nicks) IMO he probably is not that overpriced in most leagues.

True. When you've paid nothing though it makes it a lot easier to enjoy the ride however long it lasts. Especially if the alternative is a 2nd round pick.

Agree. I'd likely hold and enjoy, as you said.

 

[Pipes]

Yes but again Cobb is only 22 years old. There is no reason to believe those number won't go up next year especially when they replace him on his special team duties. I'm a huge Packers fan and follow them closely and have not heard the coaches and Rodgers talk up a WR more than they did with Cobb last year. McCarthy said on numerous occasions they needed to figure out ways to get the ball in Cobb's hands more. Jennings came back and Cobb was dinged up so his numbers tailed off a little at the end. Even with that he still had 80 rec 954 yards and 8 tds with 104 targets....pretty good for a WR who's not on the field as much as most of the top WRs are. Just think how much those numbers can increase as he sees more snaps. Calvin, AJ, Julio, Marshall, D Thomas, Bryant are clearly ahead on him in dynasty ranking but Cobb belongs in the next tier with the likes of Cruz, Nelson, Harvin...jus to name a few.

 

[Concept Coop]

Yes but again Cobb is only 22 years old. There is no reason to believe those number won't go up next year especially when they replace him on his special team duties. I'm a huge Packers fan and follow them closely and have not heard the coaches and Rodgers talk up a WR more than they did with Cobb last year. McCarthy said on numerous occasions they needed to figure out ways to get the ball in Cobb's hands more. Jennings came back and Cobb was dinged up so his numbers tailed off a little at the end. Even with that he still had 80 rec 954 yards and 8 tds with 104 targets....pretty good for a WR who's not on the field as much as most of the top WRs are. Just think how much those numbers can increase as he sees more snaps. Calvin, AJ, Julio, Marshall, D Thomas, Bryant are clearly ahead on him in dynasty ranking but Cobb belongs in the next tier with the likes of Cruz, Nelson, Harvin...jus to name a few.

There is one offense in the NFL that supports WR1 numbers from the slot. His age won't change that.

 

[Pipes]

Yes but again Cobb is only 22 years old. There is no reason to believe those number won't go up next year especially when they replace him on his special team duties. I'm a huge Packers fan and follow them closely and have not heard the coaches and Rodgers talk up a WR more than they did with Cobb last year. McCarthy said on numerous occasions they needed to figure out ways to get the ball in Cobb's hands more. Jennings came back and Cobb was dinged up so his numbers tailed off a little at the end. Even with that he still had 80 rec 954 yards and 8 tds with 104 targets....pretty good for a WR who's not on the field as much as most of the top WRs are. Just think how much those numbers can increase as he sees more snaps. Calvin, AJ, Julio, Marshall, D Thomas, Bryant are clearly ahead on him in dynasty ranking but Cobb belongs in the next tier with the likes of Cruz, Nelson, Harvin...jus to name a few.

There is one offense in the NFL that supports WR1 numbers from the slot. His age won't change that.

Let's just agree to disagree on this. GB's offense is very dynamic and can support a " slot" guy just fine. Cobb had very good numbers this year despite limited snaps. He will have a larger role in the offense next year....McCarthy has said as much so I don't see how his numbers don't go up next year and they won't have to go up much for him to be a low end 1 or a high end 2.

 

[scothawk]

This has rapidly become a Green Bay WR thread.That said, a little (and I stress little) beacon in the back of my head is beginning to blink abbout Rodgers.Maybe their offense takes a step back for a season or two as they rebuild at WR and RB. Not a sure thing obviously, but Im going to give it a little thought over the next coupld of months.In one league my QB depth chart is Rodgers - Bradford - Tannehill - Flynn. Thinking hard there, real hard, especially as I desprately need a RB now.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Yes but again Cobb is only 22 years old. There is no reason to believe those number won't go up next year especially when they replace him on his special team duties. I'm a huge Packers fan and follow them closely and have not heard the coaches and Rodgers talk up a WR more than they did with Cobb last year. McCarthy said on numerous occasions they needed to figure out ways to get the ball in Cobb's hands more. Jennings came back and Cobb was dinged up so his numbers tailed off a little at the end. Even with that he still had 80 rec 954 yards and 8 tds with 104 targets....pretty good for a WR who's not on the field as much as most of the top WRs are. Just think how much those numbers can increase as he sees more snaps. Calvin, AJ, Julio, Marshall, D Thomas, Bryant are clearly ahead on him in dynasty ranking but Cobb belongs in the next tier with the likes of Cruz, Nelson, Harvin...jus to name a few.

There is one offense in the NFL that supports WR1 numbers from the slot. His age won't change that.

Let's just agree to disagree on this. GB's offense is very dynamic and can support a " slot" guy just fine. Cobb had very good numbers this year despite limited snaps. He will have a larger role in the offense next year....McCarthy has said as much so I don't see how his numbers don't go up next year and they won't have to go up much for him to be a low end 1 or a high end 2.

His numbers were pretty dynamic this season. Week 4 when he got into the starting lineup until week 16, he was the #11 wr. Of those ahead of him, only 5 were younger than 30. Seems like GB can support his role just fine.

 

[MAC_32]

Dx looks like a sell high now, needed his value to marinate a few months. Got nicks for him and a second

I'm going to try buy him as I'm a believer, but that price is ridiculous. Did you wear a mask when clicking accept?

Yes that's a terrible league. Nicks straight up for Alexander is iffy and then they threw in a second? Questionable moves make for questionable leagues.

Alexander and a two for nicks. I love dx, just not hisknees, plus I already have v brown.

 

[thriftyrocker]

There is one offense in the NFL that supports WR1 numbers from the slot. His age won't change that.

I'm not sure how you're defining slot. If it means the position they play or where they line up on the field, that statement is completely wrong. If it means their average depth of target, it does make it harder, but I still think it's a false statement. I think there's a conception that low aDot means low RZ utilization, which caps fantasy stats, especially in non-PPR. However that's not the case with Cobb, who had very good RZ utilization numbers. Even if you create an artificial aDot cutoff to create a new definition of "slot WR," you still have to include Harvin and Welker, and you can still point to subseason production from Collie, Cobb, and even Amendola to point to other possibilities. Making some artificial aDot cutoff seems pretty sketchy though. Do you not want to call USC Steve Smith a slot receiver (WR1 in 2009)? I'm really not sure what makes a slot receiver a slot receiver if it's not lining up in the slot, which makes your statement pretty bad. If by "supports" you mean systematically has produced for 6 years, then that's true. But it's not the naughts anymore. Brandon Stokely's one good year isn't an anomaly anymore. Slot WRs are putting up good years.

 

[MAC_32]

If I missed something in the details, sorry, skimmed over most of the topic but something in the above post caught my eye - if anyone is categorizing Cobb as just a slot WR they are just plain wrong.

 

[Shadows]

If I missed something in the details, sorry, skimmed over most of the topic but something in the above post caught my eye - if anyone is categorizing Cobb as just a slot WR they are just plain wrong.

A 22 year old slot receiver who passes the eyeball test and has Aaron Rogers at QB.

 

[Concept Coop]

There is one offense in the NFL that supports WR1 numbers from the slot. His age won't change that.

I'm not sure how you're defining slot. If it means the position they play or where they line up on the field, that statement is completely wrong. If it means their average depth of target, it does make it harder, but I still think it's a false statement. I think there's a conception that low aDot means low RZ utilization, which caps fantasy stats, especially in non-PPR. However that's not the case with Cobb, who had very good RZ utilization numbers. Even if you create an artificial aDot cutoff to create a new definition of "slot WR," you still have to include Harvin and Welker, and you can still point to subseason production from Collie, Cobb, and even Amendola to point to other possibilities. Making some artificial aDot cutoff seems pretty sketchy though. Do you not want to call USC Steve Smith a slot receiver (WR1 in 2009)? I'm really not sure what makes a slot receiver a slot receiver if it's not lining up in the slot, which makes your statement pretty bad. If by "supports" you mean systematically has produced for 6 years, then that's true. But it's not the naughts anymore. Brandon Stokely's one good year isn't an anomaly anymore. Slot WRs are putting up good years.

His TD rate when playing outside is more than one/game. But they only did it in 3 games - based on snap%. Otherwise, his TD rate wasnt so great. Perhaps I've gone overboard with my slot definition, but I'll ask you this: In what scenarios does Cobb put up better numbers with fewer snaps? He's not likely to have so many things go his way every year, in terms of injuries. I - along with the Packers - don't think he's their best option on the outside. So where is the increase in production going to come from? Steve Smith played flanker, like Cruz. Collie was a good example, but I'd have to look at his usage numbers.

 

[Concept Coop]

If I missed something in the details, sorry, skimmed over most of the topic but something in the above post caught my eye - if anyone is categorizing Cobb as just a slot WR they are just plain wrong.

Just plain wrong? Aside from some RB, they only played him at the x spot when Both Jordy an Jennings were out.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Thoughts on Michael Crabtree?

 

[RavenLunatic]

Glad to see Cobb's value is being discussed today. I know his ceiling is higher because he has time to grow into more, but I really see a lot more Lance Moore in Randall Cobb than Percy Harvin. No a bad comparison because Moore was also a top 20 WR in 2012.Similar size, feisty, red zone target, top QB throwing him the ball. Cobb is definitely more valuable in PPR and how the Packers utilize him.Leagues that include return stats also skew his value so you have to be careful when listening to evaluations and rankings.

 

[Pipes]

There is one offense in the NFL that supports WR1 numbers from the slot. His age won't change that.

I'm not sure how you're defining slot. If it means the position they play or where they line up on the field, that statement is completely wrong. If it means their average depth of target, it does make it harder, but I still think it's a false statement. I think there's a conception that low aDot means low RZ utilization, which caps fantasy stats, especially in non-PPR. However that's not the case with Cobb, who had very good RZ utilization numbers. Even if you create an artificial aDot cutoff to create a new definition of "slot WR," you still have to include Harvin and Welker, and you can still point to subseason production from Collie, Cobb, and even Amendola to point to other possibilities. Making some artificial aDot cutoff seems pretty sketchy though. Do you not want to call USC Steve Smith a slot receiver (WR1 in 2009)? I'm really not sure what makes a slot receiver a slot receiver if it's not lining up in the slot, which makes your statement pretty bad. If by "supports" you mean systematically has produced for 6 years, then that's true. But it's not the naughts anymore. Brandon Stokely's one good year isn't an anomaly anymore. Slot WRs are putting up good years.

His TD rate when playing outside is more than one/game. But they only did it in 3 games - based on snap%. Otherwise, his TD rate wasnt so great. Perhaps I've gone overboard with my slot definition, but I'll ask you this: In what scenarios does Cobb put up better numbers with fewer snaps? He's not likely to have so many things go his way every year, in terms of injuries. I - along with the Packers - don't think he's their best option on the outside. So where is the increase in production going to come from? Steve Smith played flanker, like Cruz. Collie was a good example, but I'd have to look at his usage numbers.

Why do you think Cobb will see less snaps next year? McCarthy said numerous times as the season went on the Cobb needed more touches not less. And now with a full offseason at his disposal I'd fully expect McCarthy to come up with a few wrinkles to utilize Cobbs skill set...especially with the departure of Jennings. I'm 100% convinced that Cobb will lead the Packers next year in both targets and receptions.

 

[MAC_32]

If I missed something in the details, sorry, skimmed over most of the topic but something in the above post caught my eye - if anyone is categorizing Cobb as just a slot WR they are just plain wrong.

Just plain wrong? Aside from some RB, they only played him at the x spot when Both Jordy an Jennings were out.

blinders, engage.

 

[Concept Coop]

If I missed something in the details, sorry, skimmed over most of the topic but something in the above post caught my eye - if anyone is categorizing Cobb as just a slot WR they are just plain wrong.

Just plain wrong? Aside from some RB, they only played him at the x spot when Both Jordy an Jennings were out.

blinders, engage.

Ha ha. The guy using stats has blinders? Okay.

 

[MAC_32]

If you want to pretend this is all Cobb is then I cannot help you. Talk again next year...

 

[Concept Coop]

If you want to pretend this is all Cobb is then I cannot help you. Talk again next year...

Be condescending after having a conversation. But okay - I'll guess we'll talk next year.

 

[MAC_32]

I can't have a serious conversation with someone that lumps Cobb in with other slot receivers. Tells me that person has their head in the stats and not watching the game.

 

[Concept Coop]

I can't have a serious conversation with someone that lumps Cobb in with other slot receivers. Tells me that person has their head in the stats and not watching the game.

Yeah - that must be it.

 

[MAC_32]

Yeah, Andrew Hawkins is just as good as Cobb. Limited slot WR that sees most of his targets within five yards of the line. Ok.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Yeah, Andrew Hawkins is just as good as Cobb. Limited slot WR that sees most of his targets within five yards of the line. Ok.

He didn't say Cobb was a bad slot receiver.