2013 Official Dallas Cowboys Thread (1 Viewer)

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

It was a bad decision to throw that ball, Romo should not have checked out of that run. He is a good player but he does lack "It." It's ashame that Dallas has the worst defense in the NFL and you can't rely on any lead as an offense but you would think Romo would know the situation and GB needed a tnrnover in that situation and not to take chances.

This problem isn't Garrett, it is Jerry Jones. He has his hands in everything and besides loving the team because it's intertwined with his giant ego, he's bad at player decisions. I have zero faith in Jones putting together a staff that can turn this team around in the near future.

I am really not disappointed in today's loss, it's expected. In the Minny thread I basically posted out bad the NFC East is after Philly lost and now lets go watch Dallas struggle with a horrible Green Bay team.

You have to fix the defense, we don't have the players. We have no depth, and when fully healthy we still aren't good enough. It's not about firing Kiffin or getting a certain D coordinator, we just don't have the people, we need to revamp.

 

[Ack88]

Yes, to all of the above.

This team is a known commodity. There is no upside. There will be no Super Bowls. The last several years have been eerily similar.

I'll happily accept two or three rebuilding years for the hope of a winning future. Unfortunately the NFL's most egocentric owner still just doesn't get it.

 

[dickey moe]

In order of blame:

1) Jerry Jones

2) Jason Garrett

3) Tony Romo

4) Dallas Defense, Kiffin, Callahan, blah blah blah

 

[Shutout]

Yes, to all of the above.

This team is a known commodity. There is no upside. There will be no Super Bowls. The last several years have been eerily similar.

I'll happily accept two or three rebuilding years for the hope of a winning future. Unfortunately the NFL's most egocentric owner still just doesn't get it.

Sadly though, even if you rebuild you are guaranteed no better. The bulls blew it up to rebuild. 20 years later, still waiting.

 

[Bankerguy]

I try my best to not over react to this team. Tonight, I am making the following declaration or promise. If Jason Garrett is the coach for game 1 next year.....then I'm done. I won't post in Cowboys thread until he is gone thereafter.

 

[Shutout]

I wish Dez wouldn't do some of the things he does when the cowboys lose but I honestly believe deep down that he reacts out of genuine passion fueled frustration. Still, I can't give him a pass for today because you just can't leave your team like that but I won't crucify him either. He wants to win

 

[Bankerguy]

I wish Dez wouldn't do some of the things he does when the cowboys lose but I honestly believe deep down that he reacts out of genuine passion fueled frustration. Still, I can't give him a pass for today because you just can't leave your team like that but I won't crucify him either. He wants to win

Love me some Dez and his passion. When he takes over from our pay check brigade (Romo, Witten, Ware) though, he can't walk off the field. Gotta be a leader and take your medicine.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

In order of blame:

1) Jerry Jones

2) Jason Garrett

3) Tony Romo

4) Dallas Defense, Kiffin, Callahan, blah blah blah

Bill Callahan is a big problem.

 

[Paulymaggs]

Time and again teams have shown that there is really no need to "rebuild" in the NFL.

Kids coming out of college are more ready to contribute than any of the major sports leagues.

Non-guaranteed contracts.

Ability to sign other team's above-average guys depending on how they are Tagged.

Jerry Jones has got to be less of a problem than Romo and Garret/coaches, IMO.

 

[cobalt_27]

In order of blame:

1) Jerry Jones

2) Jason Garrett

3) Tony Romo

4) Dallas Defense, Kiffin, Callahan, blah blah blah

Bill Callahan is a big problem.

Gutless.

Blow.

It.

Up.

 

[Bankerguy]

Time and again teams have shown that there is really no need to "rebuild" in the NFL.

Kids coming out of college are more ready to contribute than any of the major sports leagues.

Non-guaranteed contracts.

Ability to sign other team's above-average guys depending on how they are Tagged.

Jerry Jones has got to be less of a problem than Romo and Garret/coaches, IMO.

SMH.

You don't follow Dallas do you.

 

[cobalt_27]

I try my best to not over react to this team. Tonight, I am making the following declaration or promise. If Jason Garrett is the coach for game 1 next year.....then I'm done. I won't post in Cowboys thread until he is gone thereafter.

I am with you.

And someone else can have my season tickets and bother with coming out here to watch this bull.#### team.

 

[Paulymaggs]

Time and again teams have shown that there is really no need to "rebuild" in the NFL.

Kids coming out of college are more ready to contribute than any of the major sports leagues.

Non-guaranteed contracts.

Ability to sign other team's above-average guys depending on how they are Tagged.

Jerry Jones has got to be less of a problem than Romo and Garret/coaches, IMO.

SMH.

You don't follow Dallas do you.

I don't.

 

[fasteddie_21]

I don't care that Romo checked out of the final play. That doesn't account for only 4 running plays the entire second half. Just disgusting.

 

[Bankerguy]

Time and again teams have shown that there is really no need to "rebuild" in the NFL.

Kids coming out of college are more ready to contribute than any of the major sports leagues.

Non-guaranteed contracts.

Ability to sign other team's above-average guys depending on how they are Tagged.

Jerry Jones has got to be less of a problem than Romo and Garret/coaches, IMO.

SMH.

You don't follow Dallas do you.

I don't.

Count your blessings.

 

[ffldrew]

The only way this gets better is if Jerry fires Garrett tomorrow and takes over on the sideline - we all know he want's to.

 

[N Zone]

I'm done supporting this group of losers.

 

[N Zone]

In order of blame:

1) Jerry Jones

2) Jason Garrett

3) Tony Romo

4) Dallas Defense, Kiffin, Callahan, blah blah blah

Bill Callahan is a big problem.

Gutless.

Blow.

It.

Up.

Amen to that.

 

[Bob Magaw]

demoralizing loss.

bottom line, though. didn't they have to win against WAS week 16 and PHI week 17 anyways to avoid tie-breaker scenarios?

and if they take care of business, their playoff destiny is in their hands and control if they win out, they don't need help.

 

[N Zone]

This team's not winning.

 

[cobalt_27]

demoralizing loss.

bottom line, though. didn't they have to win against WAS week 16 and PHI week 17 anyways to avoid tie-breaker scenarios?

and if they take care of business, their playoff destiny is in their hands and control if they win out, they don't need help.

...and then what?

Does it matter? And if so, why?

 

[Ridgelake]

demoralizing loss.

bottom line, though. didn't they have to win against WAS week 16 and PHI week 17 anyways to avoid tie-breaker scenarios?

and if they take care of business, their playoff destiny is in their hands and control if they win out, they don't need help.

Yes, it is true that if they beat Washington and Philly the next 2 weeks, they are NFCE champions. They then get to host one of San Fran, Carolina, New Orleans, or possibly Arizona. Its unlikely that they win that game. But supposing that they win their 3rd in a row for the first time this year, they then go on the road, probably to Seattle. If that game is within 30 points, I'd be surprised.

Bottom line is that this team has no chance against the big boys of the NFL. That's been shown over and over. Most of the fans here are of the mind to lose out and get better draft spots. Rebuild. This roster is so devoid of depth of talent, its going to take time. It will be curious to see who gets the reigns over that process.

 

[cobalt_27]

At DFW. Never been so demoralized as a fan.

I've really tried to follow jkrupp and simmonj in ignoring / dismissing all the obvious negatives this weekend while here in Dallas. Got sucked in. My mistake.

Blow it up. Everything and everyone. Send Dez elsewhere if at all possible as part of the rebuild.

 

[Routilla]

 

[humpback]

Do you guys honestly think things will ever get substantially better with Jerry there? These problems all start at the top, and he doesn't appear to be willing to give up control anytime soon.

 

[culdeus]

I swear to god the next person that tells me they lost no ground yesterday I will shank right in the liver.

I have had it with this fanbase. Just a bunch of gutless ###########.

 

[cobalt_27]

I swear to god the next person that tells me they lost no ground yesterday I will shank right in the liver.

I have had it with this fanbase. Just a bunch of gutless ###########.

 

[Ridgelake]

That was absolutely brutal yesterday. Total meltdown from top to bottom. The defense letting Matt Flynn lead 5 consecutive TD drives. Romo with the awful picks. Play calling.

If you had asked me on Saturday, I would say to keep Garrett as he's got the team heading in the right direction. Focusing on talent acquisition and removing bad contracts. An ability to limit Jerry's impulsiveness. Maybe he still has value in that roll (pseudo-GM). But how he relinquishes coaching to do that is not feasible in my mind. And with repeated debacles on the coaching side, I don't know how he stays as coach.

My level of indifference towards this team has reached a new level. My indifference has been my buffer for problems in recent years. An acceptance that I can't change it so don't get so emotionally invested. Its the only thing that helps right now.

 

[BassNBrew]

Gut feeling, but Dallas makes the playoffs and the tone of this thread changes for a week.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Gut feeling, but Dallas makes the playoffs and the tone of this thread changes for a week.

I don't think so.

At this point, it's sinking in that, until Jerry gives up GM control (or dies), it doesn't matter what happens below him. This team will remain handicapped and it's useless to argue otherwise.

Whether you see the glass as half-full or you're cobalt telling us how it all needs to be blown up, it just doesn't matter. Jerry is the issue and until that is fixed, everything else is window dressing.

Man, I really hate being a Cowboy fan.

That said, at least Jerry is 71 and we don't have Snyder who is only 48.

 

[Manster]

Yesterday's loss was just another example of a dysfunctional team. Its the same old story. Up 26-3 at half time........................Lose 37-36, while passing the ball more than GB in the 2nd half.........Huh?

Still can win the East.................HAHA! What a joke. I'm predicting we lose next two and finish 7-9.

 

[dhockster]

Gut feeling, but Dallas makes the playoffs and the tone of this thread changes for a week.

I don't think so.

At this point, it's sinking in that, until Jerry gives up GM control (or dies), it doesn't matter what happens below him. This team will remain handicapped and it's useless to argue otherwise.

Whether you see the glass as half-full or you're cobalt telling us how it all needs to be blown up, it just doesn't matter. Jerry is the issue and until that is fixed, everything else is window dressing.

Man, I really hate being a Cowboy fan.

That said, at least Jerry is 71 and we don't have Snyder who is only 48.

Which prompts the next question: Stephan Jones is waiting in the wings. Will he be as hands on as his dad, or will he step back and hire some real football people?

 

[Manster]

Gut feeling, but Dallas makes the playoffs and the tone of this thread changes for a week.

The tone would change slightly, but not much. The reality of the Cowboys right now is they have a banged up, ineffectual defense. As is, they are one of the worst, if not the worst in the NFL. Combine that with horrible game day coaching, a terrible GM, and salary issues next season..............I see no end in sight for continued mediocrity.

Anything can happen. BUT, the chance of the Cowboys winning out and goin anywhere in the playoffs this season, is about the same as Jerrah stepping down as GM.

 

[Banger]

Gut feeling, but Dallas makes the playoffs and the tone of this thread changes for a week.

I don't think so.

At this point, it's sinking in that, until Jerry gives up GM control (or dies), it doesn't matter what happens below him. This team will remain handicapped and it's useless to argue otherwise.

Whether you see the glass as half-full or you're cobalt telling us how it all needs to be blown up, it just doesn't matter. Jerry is the issue and until that is fixed, everything else is window dressing.

Man, I really hate being a Cowboy fan.

That said, at least Jerry is 71 and we don't have Snyder who is only 48.

Which prompts the next question: Stephan Jones is waiting in the wings. Will he be as hands on as his dad, or will he step back and hire some real football people?

isn't he in charge of personnel currently? I'd guess he'd be hands on since he probably thinks he knows what he's doing now.

 

[B-Deep]

Wont be surprised if Dez chooses to leave when FA even if he is franchised.

For all his childish rants and raves, hes got too much pride and heart compared to the rest of this team.

what he showed was not pride and heart, it was cowardice

 

[BigDave]

demoralizing loss.

bottom line, though. didn't they have to win against WAS week 16 and PHI week 17 anyways to avoid tie-breaker scenarios?

and if they take care of business, their playoff destiny is in their hands and control if they win out, they don't need help.

Yes, it is true that if they beat Washington and Philly the next 2 weeks, they are NFCE champions. They then get to host one of San Fran, Carolina, New Orleans, or possibly Arizona. Its unlikely that they win that game. But supposing that they win their 3rd in a row for the first time this year, they then go on the road, probably to Seattle. If that game is within 30 points, I'd be surprised.

Bottom line is that this team has no chance against the big boys of the NFL. That's been shown over and over. Most of the fans here are of the mind to lose out and get better draft spots. Rebuild. This roster is so devoid of depth of talent, its going to take time. It will be curious to see who gets the reigns over that process.

One of the main problems that Jerry has had for the last several years is that he thinks that we are one player/play/win away from the Superbowl.

He thinks we're the NYG's and can "go on a run" and go deep into the playoffs and make it to the Superbowl and win like they did. WE ARE NOT THOSE GIANTS.

As stated above, we are playing amongst men on other teams that have the leadership, talent, coaching and fortitude to win in December and start those runs and carry that momentum. We have not shown that for 20 years in Dallas

We can barely make the playoff each year and I have finally come to the conclusion it will be a long time before Dallas is great again. Blowing it up? Trading a few older key players? I'm not a GM so I don't know those answers, but I think we can all agree Jerry doesn't know them and Stephen doesn't know them. SAD

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

In order of blame:

1) Jerry Jones

2) Jason Garrett

3) Tony Romo

4) Dallas Defense, Kiffin, Callahan, blah blah blah

Bill Callahan is a big problem.

that guy Sucks.

and Move #4 to #2

 

[Judge Smails]

4 running plays in the second half. With a 20+ point lead at halftime. And that running game produced 18-134-1 for 7.4 YPC. Pure stupidity and I imagine unprecedented in the history of football. They all should be whacked. I've seen better coaching at our local high school - and I'm not kidding.

 

[B-Deep]

If anyone should have stormed off of the field it should have been Murrray

 

[B-Deep]

4 running plays in the second half. With a 20+ point lead at halftime. And that running game produced 18-134-1 for 7.4 YPC. Pure stupidity and I imagine unprecedented in the history of football. They all should be whacked. I've seen better coaching at our local high school - and I'm not kidding.

no matter what else is discussed, the awful defense, the awful interceptions...

that fact cannot be stated enough

why did Romo check out of a run? Why not, the coaches clearly did not give 2 ####s about running the ball anyway

 

[jurb26]

If anyone should have stormed off of the field it should have been Murrray

Murray was visibly upset one time as they showed him taking his helmet off and mumbling some things. This was right after a 3 n out were Dal threw the ball every down and used like 15 sec of the clock. Nothing along Dez levels though so I'm assuming he just doesn't have enough passion....

 

[B-Deep]

If anyone should have stormed off of the field it should have been Murrray

Murray was visibly upset one time as they showed him taking his helmet off and mumbling some things. This was right after a 3 n out were Dal threw the ball every down and used like 15 sec of the clock. Nothing along Dez levels though so I'm assuming he just doesn't have enough passion....

lol

next time my kid throws a tantrum i will tell the wife to admire his passion

 

[dhockster]

So do you think Miles Austin coming back from injury has hurt the development of Terence Williams? From games 4 through 10 when Austin was out or unproductive (he had zero catches in games 6 and 7) Williams caught 24 balls for 438 yards and 5 TD's. Since Austin return in game 11, Williams only has 10 catches for 115 yards and 0 TD's. Meanwhile Austin has just 6 catches for 89 yards in those 4 games.

 

[B-Deep]

I think Austin is another average player making way too much money

 

[cobalt_27]

Gut feeling, but Dallas makes the playoffs and the tone of this thread changes for a week.

I don't think so.At this point, it's sinking in that, until Jerry gives up GM control (or dies), it doesn't matter what happens below him. This team will remain handicapped and it's useless to argue otherwise.

Whether you see the glass as half-full or you're cobalt telling us how it all needs to be blown up, it just doesn't matter. Jerry is the issue and until that is fixed, everything else is window dressing.

Man, I really hate being a Cowboy fan.

That said, at least Jerry is 71 and we don't have Snyder who is only 48.

I have to admit, bankerguy started on the "blow-it-up" mantra long before I joined the bandwagon. Nobody can credibly look at this team and think we are just a few tweaks from greatness. So, the harm in blowing it up and starting over would be...? While I understand that doesn't guarantee things will be better, either... Isn't everyone sick of this ####### team by now? As a fan, I'd like to see an overhaul in both coaching and personnel. This group has choked away enough wins to make it clear they are a bunch of overpaid losers.

 

[Manster]

4 running plays in the second half. With a 20+ point lead at halftime. And that running game produced 18-134-1 for 7.4 YPC. Pure stupidity and I imagine unprecedented in the history of football. They all should be whacked. I've seen better coaching at our local high school - and I'm not kidding.

I couldnt believe this. They were running the ball down GB's throat! Its almost criminal to run 4 times and throw more than GB, in the 2nd half.

Kinda reminded me of the legendary collapse against the Lions a couple years back. They literally coulda ran 3 times, punted, and took their chances on defense in that game, and still won. It woulda been almost impossible for the Lions to have enough time to come back. But oh no, the Cowboys find ways to piss games away!

When you have a big lead, you run down the clock, and play the field position game. Now, granted, the Cowboys D is not good. BUT, abandoning the run is a Garrett coached team trait that goes back to his OC days. It's poor game management. Its nothing new for this team.

 

[cobalt_27]

4 running plays in the second half. With a 20+ point lead at halftime. And that running game produced 18-134-1 for 7.4 YPC. Pure stupidity and I imagine unprecedented in the history of football. They all should be whacked. I've seen better coaching at our local high school - and I'm not kidding.

no matter what else is discussed, the awful defense, the awful interceptions...that fact cannot be stated enough

why did Romo check out of a run? Why not, the coaches clearly did not give 2 ####s about running the ball anyway

This is not about Romo. Garrett is the HC and had to make it clear to everyone they were running the football and not to check out of the plays called. This is a failure of the coaching staff, and certainly not the first time this has ever happened.

Romo failed to protect the football and that's on him. He is a recidivism offender here, so he shouldn't be let off the hook, either. But the decisions made in how to approach the game and strategy with a 23 point lead, that is the epic failure by all coaches involved. None of whom belong in the NFL at this point.

 

[drew1976]

I can understand Dez leaving. The last time he flipped out, he was all over the news. He probably was getting worked up for whatever reason and didn't want every camera trained on him waiting for him to blow up or break down.

He was wrong but he apologized and was trying instead of just reacting. That can be fixed. I'd take his fixable bad judgement along with his passion any day of the week.

 

[jurb26]

So now they are saying on NFL live that Romo didn't check out of the play to a pass. That the play call was an option run/pass depending on the look. Romo chose the pass because of the 10 man box. Then, threw late and off his back foot. Garrett is a royal tool hiding behind other peoples mistakes it sounds like. Another gem is that he has total control to change all play calls by the OC if he doesn't like them. Yet he didn't.

 

[Manster]

I think the Cowboys players have passion. It may not be as visible as Dez's, but its there. To say Dez has more passion than the rest of the team is insulting to the other guys. This just isnt a good football team, top to bottom, period. The mediocrity train has been in motion in Dallas for some time. Sure, there are flashes, but theres lack of substance. The Cowboys are always behind the curve, unlike, say the Pats. Its Jerry's fault, period.