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2013 Official Dallas Cowboys Thread (3 Viewers)

I think Garrett staying is the right move. Monte Kiffen absolutely needs to go though. If Dallas had even had a mediocre defense last year, they'd have been 10-6 or better.

 
I think Garrett staying is the right move. Monte Kiffen absolutely needs to go though. If Dallas had even had a mediocre defense last year, they'd have been 10-6 or better.
What coach has ever gotten the free pass Garrett's been given by some here regarding the defense? I thought the head coach was where the buck stopped? Is it not his responsibility to apply team philosophy and work aggressively to fix problems in all phases of the game? Why do some here give him all the credit for a offense he doesn't even run anymore, but say it's not his problem for having one of history's worst defenses in professional football?

 
I think Garrett staying is the right move. Monte Kiffen absolutely needs to go though. If Dallas had even had a mediocre defense last year, they'd have been 10-6 or better.
What coach has ever gotten the free pass Garrett's been given by some here regarding the defense? I thought the head coach was where the buck stopped? Is it not his responsibility to apply team philosophy and work aggressively to fix problems in all phases of the game? Why do some here give him all the credit for a offense he doesn't even run anymore, but say it's not his problem for having one of history's worst defenses in professional football?
I agree with this. If his responsibility was just the offense, wouldn't (or shouldn't) he still be offensive coordinator rather than head coach?

 
jkruppe said:
fantasycurse42 said:
cobalt_27 said:
Last year's draft was all about the offense. This year, it should be all about the defense and we'll see where we are after that. If we can hit 2 or 3 starters or, at least, heavy-rotation guys on defense in the upcoming draft, this team is very close to competing.
This sounds like a Jason Garrett post-game press conference. This exactly the type of thinking, you realize, that guides all of Jerry's decisions. Gosh, aw shucks, we just have to keep working harder, get at it, we are are just a couple guys away from getting to the next level.You cannot be 8-8 for three straight seasons and watch how this team plays, watch the talent deficit that translated in zero wins against winning teams, watch a confused, disorganized coaching staff muddle through game management decisions and botch them all so royally, and realistically think adding a couple of draft picks solves everything.

But, this is why we are here. Because Jerry thinks this. And, apparently, so do a few fans. Welcome to the definition of insanity. Keep doing the same thing over and over and maybe something will change.
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While it is frustrating to finish 8-8 again and be out of the playoffs, as many have tried to explain to you and BG, there's no need, nor is it realistic to "blow it up" and "start over" as you love to post. You rail on Jerry and Garrett and then somehow believe they can trade Romo, Witten, Ware, etc for all these high draft picks that they'll magically hit on perfectly in the draft so that in 3 years they'll return to their 90's dominant fashion. What world do you live in? Go be a fan of Cleveland or Buffalo or Miami or Washington or one of these other teams who are continually "blowing it up" to start over. This isn't your dynasty team. You have no idea what it's like to be an NFL GM or HC. It's not easy, like you seem to think. Say you fire Garrett. Who gets brought in? Every post you complain about something -- and often at least one of those complaints are directed at Jerry Jones. Yet somehow you believe you'll get a Gruden or a Lovie to come coach for him? I think it was Ridge who said Garrett has a good working relationship with Jerry. He's able to cut through some -- not all -- of his BS. Do you really think the same of McDaniels or Whisenhunt or some other coordinator looking for his first HC job? Repeat of Campo or Gailey anyone? No thanks. Better to stay with the devil you know and believe that he can improve.

The play calling obviously needs to be better. So, let's realistically hope for a new OC maybe, or improvement from Callahan, if he stays. Those are things that could actually happen and bring good results.

For whatever reason, these guys play hard for Garrett. He hasn't lost this team. Quite the opposite, in fact. There are pieces in place that give us enough talent to win now with an injection of defensive talent through the draft and the subtraction of so many injuries. Even with your perpetual turd-colored glasses you should be able to see how the healthy version of this team gets 2-3 more wins, like Chaos said above. They aren't that far away.
:lmao: The delusion is strong with this one.

Garrett is a terrible HC, there is no debate. Right now, he is one of the worst in the NFL. Can he mature into an adequate coach? Perhaps. But, he has yet to demonstrate any ability to correct his own damn mistakes. This is the single biggest factor in transforming me from a leery supporter to an ardent dissenter of Mr. Garrett.

Contrary to your biased claim that guys play hard under his watch, please tell me what happened at the end of the Detroit game when the defense casually lined up before the snap and let Stafford leap into the end zone? Is that the type of hard work ethic you're talking about? Or how about the casual pass rush in the second half of the GB game when it looked like everyone was looking forward to a post-game beer?

The Philly game was great effort, tremendous effort. They really played their asses off wire to wire. Same with the STL game. But, beyond that, you routinely see in both Giants games, the Denver game, KC, etc... receivers not finishing blocks, linemen strolling around, the secondary perpetually confused (a proxy for poor preparation and work ethic in practice). It goes on and on.

I respect your optimism. But, absent a rationale for why one should be optimistic, it's difficult to understand. The operations managers are clueless, they have no money, much of their elite talent are fading in years and effectiveness. This whole idea of continuing on with a coach who doesn't know what he's doing and with team that doesn't have the talent or prospects of improving their talent base is the very definition of insanity. My ou think it's unrealistic to blow it up. May I submit it is even more unrealistic to continue with the current model and expect better results by doing the exact same thing. In fact, it's relatively well established your approach yields mediocrity year after year. Those of us who advocate change at least have reasonable belief that things will improve.

I don't like your 8-8 Cowboys. I want better.
How many coaches in the NFL could lead a team to an 8-8 record with an NFL worst defense that gave up 415 yards a game and 27 points a game (7th worst)? Falcons arguably have a better team and they could only manage a 4-12 record so I would argue that Garrett is a better coach. The list could go on. I guarantee you if Garrett was fired he would be hired to fill one of the current vacancies (no doubt in my mind). I don't think its a coincidence that Kiffin is being replaced as the blame lies with him as far as the defense and not Garrett.
Wasn't it Ryan's fault last year?

 
So it looks like Marinelli wants to head to Tampa with Lovie, but he's under contract to Dallas as the D-line coach. Do you think Jerry should stop him from going? Get back a pick? Just let him go? And, if he does go, and Kiffin still "retires", who do we bring in as DC then?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/02/cowboys-would-have-to-approve-marinelli-move-to-tampa/
Leslie Frazier anyone?

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2014/01/do-cowboys-want-rod-marinelli-to-be-their-defensive-coordinator.html/

 
I think Garrett staying is the right move. Monte Kiffen absolutely needs to go though. If Dallas had even had a mediocre defense last year, they'd have been 10-6 or better.
What coach has ever gotten the free pass Garrett's been given by some here regarding the defense? I thought the head coach was where the buck stopped? Is it not his responsibility to apply team philosophy and work aggressively to fix problems in all phases of the game? Why do some here give him all the credit for a offense he doesn't even run anymore, but say it's not his problem for having one of history's worst defenses in professional football?
I don't ever recall Sean Payton taking heat for the poor New Orleans defenses in years past. I don't ever recall Lovie Smith taking heat for the poor Bears offense in years past.

 
I think Garrett staying is the right move. Monte Kiffen absolutely needs to go though. If Dallas had even had a mediocre defense last year, they'd have been 10-6 or better.
What coach has ever gotten the free pass Garrett's been given by some here regarding the defense? I thought the head coach was where the buck stopped? Is it not his responsibility to apply team philosophy and work aggressively to fix problems in all phases of the game? Why do some here give him all the credit for a offense he doesn't even run anymore, but say it's not his problem for having one of history's worst defenses in professional football?
Also should add Dallas has a unique dynamic with Jerry as the GM and shot caller. Most coaches are allowed to bring in their choice of a defensive coordinator in this case I don't think anyone would argue that Jerry was the one driving force to bring in Kiffin and not Garrett. Do you think it was Garrett's call to bring in Kiffin?

 
I think Garrett staying is the right move. Monte Kiffen absolutely needs to go though. If Dallas had even had a mediocre defense last year, they'd have been 10-6 or better.
What coach has ever gotten the free pass Garrett's been given by some here regarding the defense? I thought the head coach was where the buck stopped? Is it not his responsibility to apply team philosophy and work aggressively to fix problems in all phases of the game? Why do some here give him all the credit for a offense he doesn't even run anymore, but say it's not his problem for having one of history's worst defenses in professional football?
Also should add Dallas has a unique dynamic with Jerry as the GM and shot caller. Most coaches are allowed to bring in their choice of a defensive coordinator in this case I don't think anyone would argue that Jerry was the one driving force to bring in Kiffin and not Garrett. Do you think it was Garrett's call to bring in Kiffin?
Not at all. So, is what your implying here is that Garrett doesn't have any influence on practice, game-planning, and adjustments?

 
I think Garrett staying is the right move. Monte Kiffen absolutely needs to go though. If Dallas had even had a mediocre defense last year, they'd have been 10-6 or better.
What coach has ever gotten the free pass Garrett's been given by some here regarding the defense? I thought the head coach was where the buck stopped? Is it not his responsibility to apply team philosophy and work aggressively to fix problems in all phases of the game? Why do some here give him all the credit for a offense he doesn't even run anymore, but say it's not his problem for having one of history's worst defenses in professional football?
I don't ever recall Sean Payton taking heat for the poor New Orleans defenses in years past. I don't ever recall Lovie Smith taking heat for the poor Bears offense in years past.
Oh, I certainly recall a lot of griping about Lovie and the Bears' offensive woes in Chicago, that he lost the team, didn't engage enough with coordinators and position coaches. Payton is in a unique position in NO, particularly post-Katrina. That whole team walks on water. He could mug an elderly woman in broad daylight and get a free pass.

 
I think Garrett staying is the right move. Monte Kiffen absolutely needs to go though. If Dallas had even had a mediocre defense last year, they'd have been 10-6 or better.
What coach has ever gotten the free pass Garrett's been given by some here regarding the defense? I thought the head coach was where the buck stopped? Is it not his responsibility to apply team philosophy and work aggressively to fix problems in all phases of the game? Why do some here give him all the credit for a offense he doesn't even run anymore, but say it's not his problem for having one of history's worst defenses in professional football?
I don't ever recall Sean Payton taking heat for the poor New Orleans defenses in years past. I don't ever recall Lovie Smith taking heat for the poor Bears offense in years past.
Oh, I certainly recall a lot of griping about Lovie and the Bears' offensive woes in Chicago, that he lost the team, didn't engage enough with coordinators and position coaches. Payton is in a unique position in NO, particularly post-Katrina. That whole team walks on water. He could mug an elderly woman in broad daylight and get a free pass.
This made me laugh

 
I think Garrett staying is the right move. Monte Kiffen absolutely needs to go though. If Dallas had even had a mediocre defense last year, they'd have been 10-6 or better.
What coach has ever gotten the free pass Garrett's been given by some here regarding the defense? I thought the head coach was where the buck stopped? Is it not his responsibility to apply team philosophy and work aggressively to fix problems in all phases of the game? Why do some here give him all the credit for a offense he doesn't even run anymore, but say it's not his problem for having one of history's worst defenses in professional football?
Also should add Dallas has a unique dynamic with Jerry as the GM and shot caller. Most coaches are allowed to bring in their choice of a defensive coordinator in this case I don't think anyone would argue that Jerry was the one driving force to bring in Kiffin and not Garrett. Do you think it was Garrett's call to bring in Kiffin?
Not at all. So, is what your implying here is that Garrett doesn't have any influence on practice, game-planning, and adjustments?
I think that Garrett has influence on practice, game planning, etc but he was forced to play the hand he was dealt. I feel like he made the best of it.

 
I think Garrett staying is the right move. Monte Kiffen absolutely needs to go though. If Dallas had even had a mediocre defense last year, they'd have been 10-6 or better.
What coach has ever gotten the free pass Garrett's been given by some here regarding the defense? I thought the head coach was where the buck stopped? Is it not his responsibility to apply team philosophy and work aggressively to fix problems in all phases of the game? Why do some here give him all the credit for a offense he doesn't even run anymore, but say it's not his problem for having one of history's worst defenses in professional football?
Also should add Dallas has a unique dynamic with Jerry as the GM and shot caller. Most coaches are allowed to bring in their choice of a defensive coordinator in this case I don't think anyone would argue that Jerry was the one driving force to bring in Kiffin and not Garrett. Do you think it was Garrett's call to bring in Kiffin?
Not at all. So, is what your implying here is that Garrett doesn't have any influence on practice, game-planning, and adjustments?
I think that Garrett has influence on practice, game planning, etc but he was forced to play the hand he was dealt. I feel like he made the best of it.
Well, we clearly disagree on that point. Pin this post: If the Cowboys make the playoffs next year, you'll be right and ill be wrong...and I'll treat you to two tickets (section 304) to the game of your choice in 2015. Win-win. :hifive:

 
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I think Garrett staying is the right move. Monte Kiffen absolutely needs to go though. If Dallas had even had a mediocre defense last year, they'd have been 10-6 or better.
What coach has ever gotten the free pass Garrett's been given by some here regarding the defense? I thought the head coach was where the buck stopped? Is it not his responsibility to apply team philosophy and work aggressively to fix problems in all phases of the game? Why do some here give him all the credit for a offense he doesn't even run anymore, but say it's not his problem for having one of history's worst defenses in professional football?
Also should add Dallas has a unique dynamic with Jerry as the GM and shot caller. Most coaches are allowed to bring in their choice of a defensive coordinator in this case I don't think anyone would argue that Jerry was the one driving force to bring in Kiffin and not Garrett. Do you think it was Garrett's call to bring in Kiffin?
Not at all. So, is what your implying here is that Garrett doesn't have any influence on practice, game-planning, and adjustments?
I think that Garrett has influence on practice, game planning, etc but he was forced to play the hand he was dealt. I feel like he made the best of it.
Well, we clearly disagree on that point.Pin this post: If the Cowboys make the playoffs next year, you'll be right and ill be wrong...and I'll treat you to two tickets (section 304) to the game of your choice in 2015. Win-win. :hifive:
Sounds great I'm game.

 
The cowboys best chance to make the playoffs is for 8-8 to be good enough to win the division. This looked to be that year, and had Vick stayed healthy I believe it would have been. The odds of catching the division so down again are slim.

 
What is Rich Bisaccia like? The Redskins supposedly interviewed him (and numerous other people not with the Cowboys). Thanks.

 
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/10237964/jerry-jones-dallas-cowboys-favor-expanding-nfl-playoffs

Jerry, please get over this thought that if you can find some way into the playoffs your 8-8 team will win the super bowl, they are not that good, sorry. Make the team better
What's even more pathetic is the Cowboys wouldn't have made it into the playoffs in any of the past three seasons under Garrett's perennial 8-8 tenure even if we increased the field by two teams.
 
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All.

There's a great report about the Cowboys finances for 2014 at www.overthecap.com

Good insight into positions/salaries/cap$/cuts etc...

Nice read for Boys fans :coffee:

Here's a sample on Miles Austin:

It would be hard to imagine WR Miles Austin being on the team in 2014. He is one of the most overpaid players in the NFL as the Cowboys fell victim to overpaying for a “one season wonder” type of season back in 2009. Releasing Austin only saves the team $393,800, meaning they lose net cap space by releasing him. Still there is no reason to pay him $5.5 million to play this year. If designated a June 1 cut the Cowboys will gain $5.5 million in cap space on June 2, giving them the funds they need to sign their rookie draft class and have some cap relief during the season.

The Cowboys could approach Austin on a massive paycut with a guarantee at free agency in 2015. By reducing his salary to $1 million they would save $4.5 million in cap room immediately and maintain his spot on the roster. Given Dallas’ concerns are getting under the cap in March it is a possibility that this would occur and one that should be discussed as a better solution than a June 1 cut.

 
All.

There's a great report about the Cowboys finances for 2014 at www.overthecap.com

Good insight into positions/salaries/cap$/cuts etc...

Nice read for Boys fans :coffee:

Here's a sample on Miles Austin:

It would be hard to imagine WR Miles Austin being on the team in 2014. He is one of the most overpaid players in the NFL as the Cowboys fell victim to overpaying for a “one season wonder” type of season back in 2009. Releasing Austin only saves the team $393,800, meaning they lose net cap space by releasing him. Still there is no reason to pay him $5.5 million to play this year. If designated a June 1 cut the Cowboys will gain $5.5 million in cap space on June 2, giving them the funds they need to sign their rookie draft class and have some cap relief during the season.

The Cowboys could approach Austin on a massive paycut with a guarantee at free agency in 2015. By reducing his salary to $1 million they would save $4.5 million in cap room immediately and maintain his spot on the roster. Given Dallas’ concerns are getting under the cap in March it is a possibility that this would occur and one that should be discussed as a better solution than a June 1 cut.
The other issue if you keep Austin is who is the #2 receiver? Terrance Williams seemed to do much better when Austin was not playing. Will having Austin playing, potentially taking up the #2 receiver slot inhibit the development of Williams?

 
I think Garrett staying is the right move. Monte Kiffen absolutely needs to go though. If Dallas had even had a mediocre defense last year, they'd have been 10-6 or better.
What coach has ever gotten the free pass Garrett's been given by some here regarding the defense? I thought the head coach was where the buck stopped? Is it not his responsibility to apply team philosophy and work aggressively to fix problems in all phases of the game? Why do some here give him all the credit for a offense he doesn't even run anymore, but say it's not his problem for having one of history's worst defenses in professional football?
I personally don't understand why he isn't on the hook for the defense. Who is bringing in these guys, is it just Jerry and not Garrett? I guess if that is the case and he is giving no or little input on the defensive side of the ball then it's OK, but what kind of a head coaching job is that?

 
All.

There's a great report about the Cowboys finances for 2014 at www.overthecap.com

Good insight into positions/salaries/cap$/cuts etc...

Nice read for Boys fans :coffee:

Here's a sample on Miles Austin:

It would be hard to imagine WR Miles Austin being on the team in 2014. He is one of the most overpaid players in the NFL as the Cowboys fell victim to overpaying for a “one season wonder” type of season back in 2009. Releasing Austin only saves the team $393,800, meaning they lose net cap space by releasing him. Still there is no reason to pay him $5.5 million to play this year. If designated a June 1 cut the Cowboys will gain $5.5 million in cap space on June 2, giving them the funds they need to sign their rookie draft class and have some cap relief during the season.

The Cowboys could approach Austin on a massive paycut with a guarantee at free agency in 2015. By reducing his salary to $1 million they would save $4.5 million in cap room immediately and maintain his spot on the roster. Given Dallas’ concerns are getting under the cap in March it is a possibility that this would occur and one that should be discussed as a better solution than a June 1 cut.
The other issue if you keep Austin is who is the #2 receiver? Terrance Williams seemed to do much better when Austin was not playing. Will having Austin playing, potentially taking up the #2 receiver slot inhibit the development of Williams?
If that were the only issue, you just battle it out during training camp and the best man wins.

However, Austin's been a big injury problem for the Cowboys for years, he is forever blowing a hamstring. If you can save money by cutting him, you do it. There will be a team that picks him up and he'll do it fine job for them until he gets hurt, and he will get hurt.

 
"The other issue if you keep Austin is who is the #2 receiver? Terrance Williams seemed to do much better when Austin was not playing. Will having Austin playing, potentially taking up the #2 receiver slot inhibit the development of Williams?

If that were the only issue, you just battle it out during training camp and the best man wins.

However, Austin's been a big injury problem for the Cowboys for years, he is forever blowing a hamstring. If you can save money by cutting him, you do it. There will be a team that picks him up and he'll do it fine job for them until he gets hurt, and he will get hurt."

Knucklehead Jerry paid him big time. Other teams will not be willing to do that.

He could stay here at a much reduced salary and friendlier cap number. He could hopefully stay

healthy and have a productive year in which he could parlay that into another big payday with someone else.

If it's possible to keep him cheaply = good idea

 
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Miles gets league minimum anywhere else he signs. He'd have to jump at any Dallas offer to get more than that in a restructuring. He knows otherwise he's a June 1st cut.

 
Bye bye to Monte Kiffen, thanks but no thanks. He was a great coach...WAS.

Bye bye to Miles Austin, again, thanks but no thanks. He needs to go see the guy that helped Isaac Bruce finally stay healthy. He had a history of hamstring issues as well. Terrance Williams, Dwayne Harris and Cole Beasley are better than Austin in there. Not to mention getting more Escobar and Hanna in there to catch passes.

I am not 100% sure Marinelli is the answer either. The team has been building a 3-4 defense for the past decade and now they destroy that for a defense that was outdated 5 years ago....? I dont get it.

 
"MOBILE, Ala.-- The Dallas Cowboys have to find a new tight end coach with Wes Phillips leaving to take the same position with the Washington Redskins.

The Cowboys are looking at Mike Pope as a replacement. Pope spent 23 seasons with the New York Giants as an assistant coach, most recently as a tight ends coach.

There is a connection: Coach Jason Garrett was a backup quarterback with the Giants from 2000 to 2003."

 
i know you cannot switch coaches every year

but the current plan seems to be stay the course and hope things change

that doesn't sound good either

hopefully the plan includes a LOT of defensive draft picks

 
B-Deep said:
i know you cannot switch coaches every year

but the current plan seems to be stay the course and hope things change

that doesn't sound good either

hopefully the plan includes a LOT of defensive draft picks
Nothing has changed. This will excite many fans of the team, especially those who persist in believing we are in great shape after three consecutive 8-8 seasons and somehow think Garrett is a future HOF coach (see past comparisons to Landry) and we are just a player or two away.

Clearly the fan mood is not sour enough to make the front office (i.e., Jerry) take notice.

 
dickey moe said:
It's hopeless until Jerry quits as GM.
Really just boils down to this. I don't care who's coaching (HC, OC, DC, Lines, Special Teams, etc.), until Jerry gets out of the way the Cowboys are the Al Davis led Oakland Raiders all over again, this time with a more powerful marketing machine behind them, but similarly baffling FO decisions.

 
All.

There's a great report about the Cowboys finances for 2014 at www.overthecap.com

Good insight into positions/salaries/cap$/cuts etc...

Nice read for Boys fans :coffee:

Here's a sample on Miles Austin:

It would be hard to imagine WR Miles Austin being on the team in 2014. He is one of the most overpaid players in the NFL as the Cowboys fell victim to overpaying for a “one season wonder” type of season back in 2009. Releasing Austin only saves the team $393,800, meaning they lose net cap space by releasing him. Still there is no reason to pay him $5.5 million to play this year. If designated a June 1 cut the Cowboys will gain $5.5 million in cap space on June 2, giving them the funds they need to sign their rookie draft class and have some cap relief during the season.

The Cowboys could approach Austin on a massive paycut with a guarantee at free agency in 2015. By reducing his salary to $1 million they would save $4.5 million in cap room immediately and maintain his spot on the roster. Given Dallas’ concerns are getting under the cap in March it is a possibility that this would occur and one that should be discussed as a better solution than a June 1 cut.
Ware is another one that has to be looked at. He is way past his prime. I don't know the cap figure. I really wouldn't care if he never showed up again. He's not a 4-3 guy and has peaked.

 
All.

There's a great report about the Cowboys finances for 2014 at www.overthecap.com

Good insight into positions/salaries/cap$/cuts etc...

Nice read for Boys fans :coffee:

Here's a sample on Miles Austin:

It would be hard to imagine WR Miles Austin being on the team in 2014. He is one of the most overpaid players in the NFL as the Cowboys fell victim to overpaying for a “one season wonder” type of season back in 2009. Releasing Austin only saves the team $393,800, meaning they lose net cap space by releasing him. Still there is no reason to pay him $5.5 million to play this year. If designated a June 1 cut the Cowboys will gain $5.5 million in cap space on June 2, giving them the funds they need to sign their rookie draft class and have some cap relief during the season.

The Cowboys could approach Austin on a massive paycut with a guarantee at free agency in 2015. By reducing his salary to $1 million they would save $4.5 million in cap room immediately and maintain his spot on the roster. Given Dallas’ concerns are getting under the cap in March it is a possibility that this would occur and one that should be discussed as a better solution than a June 1 cut.
Ware is another one that has to be looked at. He is way past his prime. I don't know the cap figure. I really wouldn't care if he never showed up again. He's not a 4-3 guy and has peaked.
Ware is the only player that the Cowboys can cut and save significant cap dollars. He has about a $16 million cap hit if he plays in 2014, if he is cut there is only $8.5 million in dead money so the Cowboys would free up $7.5 million in cap space by cutting him.

 
Like some of us were saying last year, just blow it up. But Jerry won't. He will keep squeezing out 7-9 8-8 9-7 seasons. Romo, Ware and Witten will never come close to a Super Bowl with Jerry in charge of nearly everything.

 
Can you really fault Kiffen, if the defense has the manpower to be a 3-4 from prior years, but he's transitioning it to a 4-3 cover 2? I can see giving him another year or two to get his types of personnel in there. Not to mention, 3 defensive coordinators in 3 years will probably play havoc with any young players.

 
Can you really fault Kiffen, if the defense has the manpower to be a 3-4 from prior years, but he's transitioning it to a 4-3 cover 2? I can see giving him another year or two to get his types of personnel in there. Not to mention, 3 defensive coordinators in 3 years will probably play havoc with any young players.
that's the catch 22

the defense got worse, so do you comnpound it by switching coordinators again?

since they are keeping kiffin they need to DRAT DEFENSE, they need to change something to try and improve.

 
I have my concerns about the D but why does it seem like nobody is aware that we were CRIPPLED by injuries on that side of the ball ?

Everyone forgets the D looks really good the firs few weeks.

I am by no means suggesting its a strength.

 
I have my concerns about the D but why does it seem like nobody is aware that we were CRIPPLED by injuries on that side of the ball ?

Everyone forgets the D looks really good the firs few weeks.

I am by no means suggesting its a strength.
every year they are crippled by injuries on defense

because they are razor thin, have a ton of dead money, and don't draft well

 
B-Deep said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
I have my concerns about the D but why does it seem like nobody is aware that we were CRIPPLED by injuries on that side of the ball ?

Everyone forgets the D looks really good the firs few weeks.

I am by no means suggesting its a strength.
every year they are crippled by injuries on defensebecause they are razor thin, have a ton of dead money, and don't draft well
Also Sean Lee is their best defensive player, and he can't play two games in a row without breaking something.

 
Just read an interesting article on CBS about how the Seahawks built their roster with Carroll and Schneider. There are only 3 players left from 4 years ago (Max Unger, Red Bryant, and Brandon Mebane). 850 transactions in 4 years. Chancellor and Sherman were 5th rounders. Browner was a free agent from the Canadian league. Trades, free agents, and draft picks. 4 years to turn over the roster. Amazing.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24421934/how-did-seahawks-get-here-look-no-further-than-gm-Schneider

Sounds a lot like what Jimmy and Jerry did when they bought the Cowboys in 1989.

 
I have my concerns about the D but why does it seem like nobody is aware that we were CRIPPLED by injuries on that side of the ball ?

Everyone forgets the D looks really good the firs few weeks.

I am by no means suggesting its a strength.
Compare the Cowboys to the Patriots injury situation and get back to me. It's the NFL, all teams are injured. There are 53 guys on a roster for a reason. Excuses are for excuse makers.

 
What a mess this sounds like

According to ESPN's Ed Werder and Chris Mortensen, Jones and Garrett have a disagreement over who the offensive playcaller should be.

The pair are on the verge of a compromise in hiring Linehan, who has a close relationship with Garrett.

One source who expects Linehan to be hired speculated he could have the title of passing game coordinator while also being designated the Cowboys' playcaller. If so, Linehan would become the third different offensive playcaller in three seasons in Dallas, following Garrett and Callahan.

In a setup one source described as "strange" and "dysfunctional," Garrett ceded play-calling authority to Callahan a year ago in what appeared to be a change mandated by Jones.

If Linehan is hired, the Cowboys could make Callahan the run game coordinator and Linehan the passing game coordinator. The Cowboys have employed a similar arrangement in the past.

But this potential move would upset Callahan, who also resides as the offensive line coach. Callahan was given credit for improving the line, which produced left tackle Tyron Smith’s first Pro Bowl selection and saw rookie center and 2013 first-round pick, Travis Frederick have a solid season.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4723760/source-callahan-would-be-upset-if-linehan-is-hired

 

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