*** 2013 Official Philadelphia Eagles - NFC EAST CHAMPS*** (1 Viewer)

[Bigboy10182000]

This Jairus Byrd pipe dream needs to end. He'll be franchised if he doesn't sign a long term deal. No way Buffalo lets one of the best safeties in the league walk.

I don't see how Denver can let Clady walk either or Baltimore let Flacco walk. Just saying that if he makes it to FA, you HAVE to get him.

Does Buffalo have any other potential FA's they could franchise?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@Jeff_McLane: The scuttlebutt from the NovaCare is that former Browns LBs coach Billy Davis will be the next #Eagles defensive coordinator.

 

[Jason Wood]

Geoff Mosher concurs: "Billy Davis will be the Eagles' new DC, per source"If true...NOT happy, AT ALL, with our choice of coordinators. I really hope this is a swerve.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@Jeff_McLane: Billy Davis was the DC w/ 49ers in 05-06 and Cards in 09-10. Ds ranked 32d, 26th, 14th, 31st in yards; 30th, 24th, 11th, T-26th in points.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Can someone help me spin this and find SOMETHING positive?

 

[Lehigh98]

Huh?Browns again?Why this guy?And why did it take so long if we weren't waiting for a superbowl or college guy?

 

[Lehigh98]

Can someone help me spin this and find SOMETHING positive?

OC and DC have worked together before... on the BROWNS.

 

[Sludge]

Can someone help me spin this and find SOMETHING positive?

He has experience as a coordinator. Thats all I got. I assume this means we are going to a 3-4?

 

[GoBirds]

Why would they do this UGH.

 

[babydemon90]

@Jeff_McLane: Billy Davis was the DC w/ 49ers in 05-06 and Cards in 09-10. Ds ranked 32d, 26th, 14th, 31st in yards; 30th, 24th, 11th, T-26th in points.

so, we're hoping the Chip Kelly offense scores 40 points a game then?

 

[Deamon]

Was really hoping for a great DC signing. Thought it was the most important thing, hoping to hear more info on why we made this move. Don't think many Eagles fans can be happy with this whatsoever.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Can someone help me spin this and find SOMETHING positive?

He has experience as a coordinator. Thats all I got. I assume this means we are going to a 3-4?

The 3-4 is a lock, which I am excited about.My attempt at something positive would be that with all position coaches coming from college having his experiance as a DC help. Thats's it.As sad as it is to say and type, I would have rather had Rob Ryan

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Was really hoping for a great DC signing. Thought it was the most important thing, hoping to hear more info on why we made this move. Don't think many Eagles fans can be happy with this whatsoever.

As it stand on 2/7/13 there is NOTHING exciting about this hire.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

In three seasons as the Falcons’ linebackers coach, Keith Brooking was selected to the Pro Bowl all three years. In the mid 90′s Davis began coached outside linebackers for the Carolina Panthers. In ’96 Kevin Greene and Lamar Lathon finished first and second in the NFL in sacks, with 14.5 and 13.5, respectively.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

FWIW GeoffMosherCSN: I'm told no team has asked the Ravens for permission to interview any of their coaches.

 

[CentralPA]

I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt but this is about as far from "sexy pick" as you can get. Jim Johnson wasn't anything special before he came here. I'll pass judgement until we see what is produced on the field.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Scheme flexibilityDo the Cardinals run a 3-4 or 4-3 defense? The answer is, well, yes.By Eric EdholmJan. 30, 2009TAMPA, Fla. - Cardinals LB coach Bill Davis leaned back in his seat, exhaled and tried to remember a conversation he had five years and two jobs ago."I have been so many places, you tend to forget what you did when and when things happened," Davis said "It all blends together."Indeed. In 17 NFL seasons, Davis has worked for eight clubs and has run or been a part of just about every kind of defensive scheme there is. He has been around long enough to have seen the 3-4 defense go out of style and subsequently come back as, what Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians calls it, "the vogue defense right now," including his own team's superior unit.But do the Cardinals run a 3-4 also? The answer might surprise you. "Everybody puts us in that 3-4 category, but what we are is an 'under front, a 4-3 'under' defense, "Davis explains. "The 'under' is almost a 3-4. As 3-4 [defenses] go, it's not really what we do here."An 'under' defense slants towards the tight end. Likewise, an 'over' front shifts away from the tight end. As he explains the workings of the Cardinal's defense, Davis starts talking, then does as any good coach or teacher would: He grabs a pen and paper. "Well,here, let me show you want i mean ..."Pretty soon, he's scratching out the defensive scheme on a paper, the same one the Cardinals will use to try to stop the Steelers on Sunday. He also, for comparison, sketches out the traditional 3-4 defense and the 4-3 'even' front, both of what he has taught and coached in the NFL."When you're talking about the 3-4 team, you have the three D-lineman," Davis said. "Then you have [two] outside 'backers; then [the inside linebackers] bubble on the guards."Bubbling, in the defensive terms, is to line up across from an uncovered offensive lineman. In the 3-4, it's the two offensive guards that most often don't have a defensive lineman in front of them. The defensive ends are lined up in a five-techniques, or on the outside shoulder of the offensive tackles. The nose tackle is head up across from the center.Said Davis: "These guys [defensive linemen] are supposed to two-gap, and these outside [linebackers] are interchangeable rush-or-pass guys. And that's the dynamic of the 3-4."But in the 4-3 'under' front, like the Cardinals use as their base defense which looks similar to the 3-4 to the naked eye, the biggest difference is in the outside linebackers. The strong-side linebacker is still outside the tightend. But the other outside guy - the Cardinals call this player their "Predator" - is almost always rushing the passer, although the Cards will occasionally drop him into covers to mix things up. Other differences: The nose tackle shades to the A-gap (in between the center and the guard) on the tightend side, and the end on that side moves between the tackle and tightend.Davis explained that the 3-4 defense creates the most confusion for the offense in terms of which outside linebacker is doing what, and the standard 4-3 offers the least unpredictability. The Cardinals 4-3 'under' scheme is somewhere between the two in terms of causing the offense to guess who is rushing and who is dropping.The only player in the 4-3 'under' who is left uncovered is the "Mike," or the middle linebacker. In the Cardinals' scheme, that's usually Gerald Hayes. "That's my thumper, more of a thick guy," Davis said, circling the capital M on his piece of paper. "In the 'over' front, when i was in Atlanta [2001 to 2003], we put Keith Brooking - we were actually playing an even scheme, too - but we stacked Keith right behind the three [technique] and he got to run and make players and use his athleticism, and he made his first Pro Bowl playing behind the three."But in this scheme Hayes, listed at 249 pounds ("or a little less than that," he admits with a wink and smile), is the only uncovered linebacker. That means he often will be taking on 300-pound guards head on. On Sunday, it could be Steeler ORG Darnell Stapleton and his 305 pounds that will meet Hayes more than once. "You don't think about," Hayes says, "you just do it. You can't worry about taking those guys on. It comes with the territory."Antonio Smith and Darnell Dockett are the ends in this system, backed up by rookies Kenny Iwabema and Calais Campbell. Bryan Robinson and Gabe Watson are the nose tackles. Chike Okeafor is the primary strong-side linebacker, now that Clark Haggans is out with and injury.Karlos Dansby is the weak-side linebacker. The way the defense is set up, he has a nice protective shield to keep potential blockers at bay. "what we've done with Karlos is put him behind a three-technique, so basically - we call these anchor points - he's got a wall in front of him," Davis said. "So he can run and use his athleticism. The center can't get him because the nose is on him. The guard can't get him because the end is on him. And the tackle can't get him because the predator is on him. So this is your athlete that can run, go cover ground and make plays.Th "Predator" position is manned by Bertrand Berry and Travis LaBoy, assuming LaBoy is healthy enough to play Sunder. Both guys really are defensive ends by trade, but Davis considers them his guys."At the end of the day, I have these guys [the "Predators"] in my meeting room, so that puts us closer to this scheme [4-3 under]," he said. "And i put them in a two-point stance. This is the key right there: This guy right here [the three-technique weak side end] almost makes us have to rush the passer. As soon as you move him inside [from a five-technique], his responsibility in this is to play this very same gap."Davis has coached this scheme with the Giants and 49ers, but this is the first time in a while one of his defenses has used it as the base grouping. He has picked up pieces of different schemes from a bunch of different schools around the league and likes the flexibility of what he and the other defenses have discover in the 4-3 'under' formation."The [bill] Belichicks, [Dom] Capers, the [bill] Parcells, that whole group ... they play the 'under' front most of the time, but they move to it," Davis said. "So are we a 3-4? Almost."It just depends on how you look at it. Or under it.[Reply]

 

[CentralPA]

Can someone help me spin this and find SOMETHING positive?

He has experience as a coordinator. Thats all I got. I assume this means we are going to a 3-4?

As sad as it is to say and type, I would have rather had Rob Ryan

I disagree, he'd probably would've been the last guy I would've picked but Davis isn't too far off.

 

[Deamon]

FWIW GeoffMosherCSN: I'm told no team has asked the Ravens for permission to interview any of their coaches.

That seems strange. I kinda thought this signing sounded like we waited for a SB-team assistant and maybe struck out with them or none of them wanted to leave, and then we went back to Davis. Wondering why if he was a candidate, we'd wait so long to interview him when we had permission a long long time ago. Maybe he just crushed his interview?

 

[Billy Bats]

WOOHOO!

 

[need2know]

what the hell are we doing?why did we wait so long to hire this turd?

 

[Sludge]

I can only assume they waited this long because the guy they really wanted either turned them down or wasn't allowed to interview. I wonder what this means for DRC? He played for Davis in Arizona and IIRC went to the Pro-Bowl. He should know his defense which would be a plus for the other guys on the D.

 

[Jason Wood]

Seems pretty clear they were holding out for college guys post commitment day and/or Super Bowl bound assistants and got either negged (by Super Bowl teams) or rejected (by college guys) and had to grab our fallback.SUCKS. :(

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Seems pretty clear they were holding out for college guys post commitment day and/or Super Bowl bound assistants and got either negged (by Super Bowl teams) or rejected (by college guys) and had to grab our fallback.SUCKS. :(

I agree. If Billy was the guy he would have been here sooner.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@RoobCSN: These Chip Kelly hires aren't electrifying, but when Andy hired Rivera, Spags, Shurmur, Jim, Frazier, kept Harbaugh & Juan, same reaction.@RoobCSN: Leslie Frazier had been at Trinity, Spags was from the World League, Harbs was an unproven ST coach, Rivera was a qual. control guy, etc.

 

[Jason Wood]

@RoobCSN: These Chip Kelly hires aren't electrifying, but when Andy hired Rivera, Spags, Shurmur, Jim, Frazier, kept Harbaugh & Juan, same reaction.@RoobCSN: Leslie Frazier had been at Trinity, Spags was from the World League, Harbs was an unproven ST coach, Rivera was a qual. control guy, etc.

I'm not sure i buy the correlation. We're hiring guys who have already failed at these roles, Andy hired assistants who were unknowns at those roles and asked them to elevate themselves.

 

[Awful Waffle]

We brought in winners like Bobby April and Jim Washburn. How'd that turn out? At least Billy Davis isn't an OL coach. I don't like this hiring at all either, but who else was out there?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@Jeff_McLane: RT @footballscoop: Sources tell us Alabama OL coach Jeff Stoutland will be Chip Kelly's new OL coach w #Eagles http://t.co/le95Mw0a”

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@RoobCSN: These Chip Kelly hires aren't electrifying, but when Andy hired Rivera, Spags, Shurmur, Jim, Frazier, kept Harbaugh & Juan, same reaction.

@RoobCSN: Leslie Frazier had been at Trinity, Spags was from the World League, Harbs was an unproven ST coach, Rivera was a qual. control guy, etc.

I'm not sure i buy the correlation. We're hiring guys who have already failed at these roles, Andy hired assistants who were unknowns at those roles and asked them to elevate themselves.

I think we only hired one guy that we can say failed at his job and that was Davis. I think Shurmer was a pretty good OC (good enough to land a HC job) and did well as the QB coach here.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@Jeff_McLane: RT @footballscoop: Sources tell us Alabama OL coach Jeff Stoutland will be Chip Kelly's new OL coach w #Eagles http://t.co/le95Mw0a”

This should round out the staff

 

[Deamon]

@Jeff_McLane: RT @footballscoop: Sources tell us Alabama OL coach Jeff Stoutland will be Chip Kelly's new OL coach w #Eagles http://t.co/le95Mw0a”

Now lets draft one of his linemen if we end up going with Star at #4 (Which would be a great pick since it's now clear our transition to a 3-4 is happening THIS year)

 

[scratcher]

@RoobCSN: These Chip Kelly hires aren't electrifying, but when Andy hired Rivera, Spags, Shurmur, Jim, Frazier, kept Harbaugh & Juan, same reaction.@RoobCSN: Leslie Frazier had been at Trinity, Spags was from the World League, Harbs was an unproven ST coach, Rivera was a qual. control guy, etc.

I'm not sure i buy the correlation. We're hiring guys who have already failed at these roles, Andy hired assistants who were unknowns at those roles and asked them to elevate themselves.

I think Shurmer was a pretty good OC (good enough to land a HC job) and did well as the QB coach here.

I think part of the reason Shurmur got the Browns job was due to his connections with Holmgren.

 

[scratcher]

The Stoutland move at least is very solid. Holding out hope that Davis can turn it around. He certainly seems to know what he's talking about. Also, LBs were decent last year in Cleveland. Shrug.

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

Wow a whole new regime, I love it! I realize no one likes the DC hiring of Davis but I like giving a guy a last chance. He's walking into a terrible defense and can't possibly be expected to turn it around in one season but we have to at least see some progress with the D. There is a ton of pressure on kelly to have a high scoring offense. It should be interesting.

 

[Amused to Death]

While the coaching hires don't seem to be "sexy", I'm willing to give them a year or 2 to show improvement. The last regime went downhill for several years with no apparent plan to reverse it. Remember there's a reason they're drafting 4th and that's not the fault of Kelly and his staff. If there's no improvement in a couple years, other coaches will get their chance.

 

[Insein]

@Jeff_McLane: Billy Davis was the DC w/ 49ers in 05-06 and Cards in 09-10. Ds ranked 32d, 26th, 14th, 31st in yards; 30th, 24th, 11th, T-26th in points.

This is what concerns me. The guy isn't some hungry dude looking for a break. He's had several chances in this league. Each chance he got, he's shown he wasn't fit for that level. I guess here's hoping he's learned something but I'm not sure how to feel about this. I'll give Kelly the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise but I'm not inspired by any of this. Combine that with the dragging the feet on what should be an obvious cutting of ties with Mike Vick and I have concerns about what is on Kelly's mind. However, Lots of time between now and the beginning of next season. I'll go checkpoint to checkpoint. Next one is March 12th. If Vick is still here, I'll start to worry.

 

[scratcher]

@Jeff_McLane: Billy Davis was the DC w/ 49ers in 05-06 and Cards in 09-10. Ds ranked 32d, 26th, 14th, 31st in yards; 30th, 24th, 11th, T-26th in points.

This is what concerns me. The guy isn't some hungry dude looking for a break. He's had several chances in this league. Each chance he got, he's shown he wasn't fit for that level. I guess here's hoping he's learned something but I'm not sure how to feel about this. I'll give Kelly the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise but I'm not inspired by any of this. Combine that with the dragging the feet on what should be an obvious cutting of ties with Mike Vick and I have concerns about what is on Kelly's mind. However, Lots of time between now and the beginning of next season. I'll go checkpoint to checkpoint. Next one is March 12th. If Vick is still here, I'll start to worry.

Call me crazy but I wouldn't be terribly surprised or disappointed if Vick is here. Andy and Marty saw 2010 Vick and drooled over creating the perfect passing weapon. Vick might actually succeed in Kelly's run heavy offense where he's not throwing 50 times a game.

 

[Billy Bats]

@Jeff_McLane: Billy Davis was the DC w/ 49ers in 05-06 and Cards in 09-10. Ds ranked 32d, 26th, 14th, 31st in yards; 30th, 24th, 11th, T-26th in points.

This is what concerns me. The guy isn't some hungry dude looking for a break. He's had several chances in this league. Each chance he got, he's shown he wasn't fit for that level. I guess here's hoping he's learned something but I'm not sure how to feel about this. I'll give Kelly the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise but I'm not inspired by any of this. Combine that with the dragging the feet on what should be an obvious cutting of ties with Mike Vick and I have concerns about what is on Kelly's mind. However, Lots of time between now and the beginning of next season. I'll go checkpoint to checkpoint. Next one is March 12th. If Vick is still here, I'll start to worry.

Call me crazy but I wouldn't be terribly surprised or disappointed if Vick is here. Andy and Marty saw 2010 Vick and drooled over creating the perfect passing weapon. Vick might actually succeed in Kelly's run heavy offense where he's not throwing 50 times a game.

Isn't Kelly's offense heavy on quick reads and decisions?? If so, Vick would seem to be a terrible fit. I'm not sure why a rookie head coach would hang his early succes on a QB that isn't a long term solution. If we're going to have a stop gap QB, is rather it not be Vick.

 

[Insein]

@Jeff_McLane: Billy Davis was the DC w/ 49ers in 05-06 and Cards in 09-10. Ds ranked 32d, 26th, 14th, 31st in yards; 30th, 24th, 11th, T-26th in points.

This is what concerns me. The guy isn't some hungry dude looking for a break. He's had several chances in this league. Each chance he got, he's shown he wasn't fit for that level. I guess here's hoping he's learned something but I'm not sure how to feel about this. I'll give Kelly the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise but I'm not inspired by any of this. Combine that with the dragging the feet on what should be an obvious cutting of ties with Mike Vick and I have concerns about what is on Kelly's mind. However, Lots of time between now and the beginning of next season. I'll go checkpoint to checkpoint. Next one is March 12th. If Vick is still here, I'll start to worry.

Call me crazy but I wouldn't be terribly surprised or disappointed if Vick is here. Andy and Marty saw 2010 Vick and drooled over creating the perfect passing weapon. Vick might actually succeed in Kelly's run heavy offense where he's not throwing 50 times a game.

OK For the same reasons BB stated, Vick has never been known to make quick decisions, has trouble not turning the ball over and on top of that gets injured very easily. He'll be 33 by next season, has lost a few steps already and isn't getting any faster. Then you add in that he's due $15.5mil, what is there to like about Vick? The pipe dream that he can run Kelly's offense? Maybe 2001 Vick. A big maybe because all he had was freakish speed and a canon arm. No timing or ability to read a defense. Add in the terrible PR aspect of it. Not just the people that hate him for the dogfighting. He represents the old regime. He more than any other player represents the failures of the Andy Reid era. To keep him around is one big reminder of all that.

2013 is a rebuilding year. I hear these people on the radio with delusions of grandeur saying Vick will take us to the Super Bowl with Kelly's offense. Just stop people. That's the same thinking we've had the last 2 seasons. The same false hope. The same half assed fixes. I would like for a coach to start using his whole ### and fix this thing. Andy did it once upon a time. I hope Kelly can do the same.

 

[Awful Waffle]

I just don't know why we get a top 5 pick the draft in between Luck/RG3 and Bridewater/Boyd. Also would have been cool if we took Russell Wilson instead of Nick Foles. Oh well, what can you do?

 

[fflmonster]

Is it just me or has everything Kelly done seem like the wrong move?I don't like either of the coordinators. Both seemed to have failed multiple times.I don't like the fact that everything has to be super secret. I don't like the move to keep vick for one day past the deadline. He needs to show the team that next year will be about change.Next thing we will see is the Eagles sign Rogers-Cromartie to a long term contract and announce that Nnamdi and DRC are going to change and become great corners again.So far I am just not impressed one bit. Seems like a team with no real plan and a coach that had to go and get all sub-talent coaches. Don't really think anyone wanted to hook up with Kelly.

 

[JAA]

Is it just me or has everything Kelly done seem like the wrong move?I don't like either of the coordinators. Both seemed to have failed multiple times.I don't like the fact that everything has to be super secret. I don't like the move to keep vick for one day past the deadline. He needs to show the team that next year will be about change.Next thing we will see is the Eagles sign Rogers-Cromartie to a long term contract and announce that Nnamdi and DRC are going to change and become great corners again.So far I am just not impressed one bit. Seems like a team with no real plan and a coach that had to go and get all sub-talent coaches. Don't really think anyone wanted to hook up with Kelly.

Do you have any reason to beleive Kelly's moves are bad? Other than your opinion?Kelly should be given 2 years min before starting to pass judgement.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I just don't know why we get a top 5 pick the draft in between Luck/RG3 and Bridewater/Boyd. Also would have been cool if we took Russell Wilson instead of Nick Foles. Oh well, what can you do?

Depending on hos this year turns out we could still be in the running for Bridewater/Boyd. As far as Wilson goes it's easy to look at him and say he's the guy we should have had over Foles but unless he came with their D and system it really is meaningless. In the small sample size that we have Foles hasnt looked bad by rookie standards

 

[Awful Waffle]

John Lovett will coach the DB's. Been coaching for a while at the college level as a DB coach, DC, and ST coach. Looks like the coaching staff is pretty much done.HC: Chip KellyOC: Pat ShurmurQB: Bill LazorRB: Duce StaleyWR: Bob BicknellTE: Ted WilliamsOL: Jeff StoutlandQC: Press TaylorDC: Billy DavisDL: Jerry AzzinaroLB: Bill McGovern & Rick MinterDB: John LovettQC: Mike DawsonST: Dave Fipp

 

[fflmonster]

Is it just me or has everything Kelly done seem like the wrong move?I don't like either of the coordinators. Both seemed to have failed multiple times.I don't like the fact that everything has to be super secret. I don't like the move to keep vick for one day past the deadline. He needs to show the team that next year will be about change.Next thing we will see is the Eagles sign Rogers-Cromartie to a long term contract and announce that Nnamdi and DRC are going to change and become great corners again.So far I am just not impressed one bit. Seems like a team with no real plan and a coach that had to go and get all sub-talent coaches. Don't really think anyone wanted to hook up with Kelly.

Do you have any reason to beleive Kelly's moves are bad? Other than your opinion?Kelly should be given 2 years min before starting to pass judgement.

Well lets look at the 3 big moves so far.1st- Hires Pat Shurmur for offensive coordinatorPat Shurmur has failed in St Louis (his big claim to fame is drafting S. Bradford) Really your best move was drafting Bradford number 1 overall.. How is that working out? Then he failed again in Cleveland (5-11 record) and the whole coaching staff firedI can kinda live with this pick since I expect Kelly to be the offensive mind behind our new system.2nd- Hires Billy Davis for deffensive coordinatorDavis was defensive coordinator at 49ers and they failed. I think their ranking was 30 and 29 before he was fired. Then he went to Arizona and wow really improved that defense to a ranking of something around 28 and 30. Wait for it.. Fired again.Last job was for the famous cleveland browns as linebacker coach (so many studs on that team) and fired again after the team went 5-11.Since I expect Kelly to give A LOT of discretion to the defensive coordinator to run the defense, I hate this pick. Seems to me that we had to go with a 3rd or maybe 4th choice. No one wanted to work here under Kelly.3rd- Lastly, keeping M. Vick on the roster. Even if his 3 million is recovered when/if another team signs him (if let go), why keep him on the roster at all? We need to show the team change is coming and that should have started with cutting ties with Vick and Nnamdi. I would have cut both as soon as the superbowl was over.By these three moves I don't have ANY confidence in Kelly as a coach. I hope I am wrong and he goes on to win multiple superbowls. For now the writing on the wall states to me that we couldn't hire anything but second rate coordinators. Guess we are happy with being the cleveland browns of the east. Great 5-11 here we come for a few years before Kelly is fired.

 

[Awful Waffle]

Is it just me or has everything Kelly done seem like the wrong move?I don't like either of the coordinators. Both seemed to have failed multiple times.I don't like the fact that everything has to be super secret. I don't like the move to keep vick for one day past the deadline. He needs to show the team that next year will be about change.Next thing we will see is the Eagles sign Rogers-Cromartie to a long term contract and announce that Nnamdi and DRC are going to change and become great corners again.So far I am just not impressed one bit. Seems like a team with no real plan and a coach that had to go and get all sub-talent coaches. Don't really think anyone wanted to hook up with Kelly.

Do you have any reason to beleive Kelly's moves are bad? Other than your opinion?Kelly should be given 2 years min before starting to pass judgement.

Well lets look at the 3 big moves so far.1st- Hires Pat Shurmur for offensive coordinatorPat Shurmur has failed in St Louis (his big claim to fame is drafting S. Bradford) Really your best move was drafting Bradford number 1 overall.. How is that working out? Then he failed again in Cleveland (5-11 record) and the whole coaching staff firedI can kinda live with this pick since I expect Kelly to be the offensive mind behind our new system.2nd- Hires Billy Davis for deffensive coordinatorDavis was defensive coordinator at 49ers and they failed. I think their ranking was 30 and 29 before he was fired. Then he went to Arizona and wow really improved that defense to a ranking of something around 28 and 30. Wait for it.. Fired again.Last job was for the famous cleveland browns as linebacker coach (so many studs on that team) and fired again after the team went 5-11.Since I expect Kelly to give A LOT of discretion to the defensive coordinator to run the defense, I hate this pick. Seems to me that we had to go with a 3rd or maybe 4th choice. No one wanted to work here under Kelly.3rd- Lastly, keeping M. Vick on the roster. Even if his 3 million is recovered when/if another team signs him (if let go), why keep him on the roster at all? We need to show the team change is coming and that should have started with cutting ties with Vick and Nnamdi. I would have cut both as soon as the superbowl was over.By these three moves I don't have ANY confidence in Kelly as a coach. I hope I am wrong and he goes on to win multiple superbowls. For now the writing on the wall states to me that we couldn't hire anything but second rate coordinators. Guess we are happy with being the cleveland browns of the east. Great 5-11 here we come for a few years before Kelly is fired.

Honestly, who's better than Billy Davis? http://igglesblitz.com/philadelphia-eagles-2/billy-davis-vs-the-world/

 

[fflmonster]

That article doesn't give one shred of evidence to believe this move was the correct one.All of the numbers say this is a mistake. But time will tell. I just don't get all the love for Kelly. Besides being different does anyone see a plan yet? I see a lot of secrecy and people being hired from poor teams. Where is the improvement? If these new coaches were so good why did they fail at all previous jobs?I know give him time. And I will wait to see, but in my opinion it doesn't look like we are heading in the right direction.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Eagles Announce Coaching StaffPosted by Tim McManus on February 8, 2013 at 2:33 pm | 6 Comments1The Eagles officially announced their coaching staff Friday afternoon. Here is how it looksat Shurmur (offensive coordinator)Bill Davis (defensive coordinator)Dave Fipp (special teams coordinator)Greg Austin (assistant offensive line)Jerry Azzinaro (defensive line/assistant head coach)Bob Bicknell (wide receivers)Erik Chinander (assistant defensive line)Mike Dawson (defensive quality control)Matt Harper (assistant special teams)Josh Hingst (strength and conditioning)Shaun Huls (sports science coordinator)Bill Lazor (quarterbacks)John Lovett (defensive backs)Todd Lyght (assistant defensive backs)Bill McGovern (outside linebackers)Rick Minter (inside linebackers)Justin Peelle (assistant tight ends)Duce Staley (running backs)Jeff Stoutland (offensive line)Press Taylor (offensive quality control)Ted Williams (tight ends)Kelly will hold a press conference at the NovaCare Complex on Monday at 1:30 pm. Assistants will be available to the media following the press conference.Some initial thoughts:– Including Chip Kelly, there is a total of 22 coaches to oversee a 53-man roster. That is a pretty solid ratio.– Given that Kelly is employing both an outside linebackers coach (McGovern) and inside linebackers coach (Minter), there is a really good chance the team will be using some 3-4.– What is a sports science coordinator? Here is the job posting for the same role at Oregon to help explain (thanks to Jimmy Kempski for the link).Responsible for coordination of a comprehensive sports performance program to assess and enhance athlete readiness, performance, and recovery for…athletes. Director will also assist in the operation of the weight room and implementation of conditioning, strength, speed and flexibility programs.Huls most recently served as the head strength and conditioning coach and combatives coordinator for Navy Special Warfare. So, pretty bad ###.

 

[Billy Bats]

Howie's gonna show Joe Banner just how good these Cleveland coaches really are and how smart he is.

 

[Insein]

Howie's gonna show Joe Banner just how good these Cleveland coaches really are and how smart he is.

That'll learn em.