If your going to come out of the MEAC conference and be a day-two NFL draft pick, you had better be at least one of the top two WRs on your own mediocre team. This guy is going to be a terrible pick for some team.
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*** 2013 Official Pittsburgh Steelers Off & ON Season Thread *** (1 Viewer)
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Not really, they play the spread and he never played in the slot. Jitterbug isnt his style. And his QBs arm had Marshall living underneath a ton. The 5'7" guy had 110 catches.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
The Hank called this one. Decent blocker, no hands. Meh., yet again.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
That's what the draft is for. I know there is a lot of panic in here but what was the last big signing they made in free agency? Hartings, maybe? I am OK with letting Harrison go as long as he doesn't become a Raven. Losing Lewis will hurt only if they can't find a comparable replacement for Ike in the next two drafts. The biggest surprise is losing Sanders and it remains to be seen how that plays out. It certainly makes drafting a receiver a higher priority. Other than that, this is the Steelers MO. They rarely try and re-stock the cupboard via free agency. The big effect this has in the short term is on their depth but quite frankly, their depth has never been a strength of this team. I think if anything what this will force them to do is play some of their younger guys/draft picks a little earlier than they would like but that might not necessarily be a bad thing. That said, getting to 8-8 might be a challenge this season. I also read that they might have some interest in Hixon from the G-men.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Hixon wouldn't be a terrible guy to use as a "bridge" player...if he were more durable.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
For a second round pick, I would say sayonara Sanders, but for a third, I don't know. Nervous.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
just call up hines ward, he isnt doing anything.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
pghrob
Footballguy
Is there any salary cap trickery that the Steelers FO can do to woo Dumervil as a replacement for Harrison? The offer Harrison refused is less than the contract Denver offered and the Dumes agent failed to get in. I am fairly confident that the answer is a resounding "No effing way they could do it - just not a realistic possibility" but nonetheless thought I would post the musing.
I've read that Dumerville's revised contract was for $8 mil/yr. More than Harrison's original contract.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Plus, Dumerville in coverage would be 
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Yeah, he was supposed to get $8M for 4yrs I think. Harrison refused $4.55 with incentives around $6M I think.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Clark was the last big FA that I cant think of. I agree with most of this, but I cant remember us having this many holes either. Our cap situation dictates an inability to re-stock via FA anyway, so I wasnt planning on/hoping for that. I mostly just wanted them to keep Lewis, bring in a RB if they could at the right price, and thats about it besides minor depth guys. Theyve historically not had great backups (besides maybe LB), but theyve typically had guys ready to step in for those that leave. I think Allen will be able to replace Lewis, the rest - Sanders/Cotch, Worilds, Redman/Dwyer, TE - not so sure of.Hixon would be ok but like 5-ish said he's hurt all the time.
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Evilgrin 72
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Pats released Brandon Lloyd. I wonder if they make Sanders an offer and we choose not to match if maybe Lloyd might be signable.
I posted the same in the other thread.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I say we choose not to match regardless of him being affordable or the Steelers having interest. That said, I would love to get Lloyd.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
The more I think about it....the more I wonder if he's(Lloyd) too headcase-y. They apparently just cleaned out some issues in the locker room, would they even remotely entertain the possibility of adding a new distraction?
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
If he's a headcase, Id say its all in his own head, ie mental lapses. I dont think he'd be bad for the locker room or a distraction really.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I have mixed emotions on Sanders leaving in exchange for the Pats third. On one hand I think the Steelers need him in 2013. On the other hand he is going to be an UFA next season and if he has any kind of a decent season he likely won't be back in 2014. The Patriots may be saving us all a headache next March.'Kenny Powers said:
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
That, plus being realistic on our chances of making a run this year have me coming to the conclusion Id rather have the draft pick.I think Lloyd actually being released makes it more likely NE gives Sanders an offer, but Im still guessing Sanders remains a Steeler.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
I'd rather have some young hungry guys looking to make a name for themselves over some veteran guys who have likely peaked. As others have mentioned, the team isn't built to be a Superbowl contender this year but if they draft wisely (big if) then they could be ready to compete again fairly soon. It will be painful in the short term but I applaud the rip the band aid off approach the front office is currently employing. This team has needed to go young for the last few years and there's no time like the present. 
Good article here
Good article here
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
That was my thought earlier in here. I'd love Lloyd. He can run more routes and has better hands than Wallace IMO. If no Lloyd I really think we need to sign dhb.'Evilgrin 72 said:
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I mean, the steelers can't be thinking that their top 3 wrs can be brown, cotch, and plex, right? Are those 3 better with sanders or Lloyd or dhb?
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Pats released Lloyd because they didn't want to pay the roster bonus that was due. They could still re-sign him.
Steeler
Footballguy
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Lol!Kruger is light?
My link
Paul Kruger
99 LB
6' 4", 270 lbs
Cleveland Browns
Certainly isn't sour grapes by a Ravens fan whose team was raided by the NFL.
Here is the Ravens team picture for 2013
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Black&Gold
Footballguy
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Steelers and Packers have expressed interest in free agent Ahmad Bradshaw.
They're the first teams Bradshaw has been linked to since being released by the Giants last month. Bradshaw (foot surgeries) was cleared to begin visiting teams two weeks ago. Both Green Bay and Pittsburgh could use a jolt of talent in the running game, and Bradshaw — despite his injury history — is easily the top remaining free-agent back. He could soon start lining up visits.
The Baltimore Sun reports the Steelers are interested in free agent DE Elvis Dumervil.
Reporter Aaron Wilson considers the Steelers a team to "keep an eye on." Dumervil has now been connected to the Steelers and Ravens since Friday's contract fiasco, and expressed interest in playing for the Dolphins. If the price is right, he'd restore the pass-rushing heat Pittsburgh lost when it cut James Harrison.
Bradshaw, Dumervil, and Lloyd and I'd feel a lot better.
They're the first teams Bradshaw has been linked to since being released by the Giants last month. Bradshaw (foot surgeries) was cleared to begin visiting teams two weeks ago. Both Green Bay and Pittsburgh could use a jolt of talent in the running game, and Bradshaw — despite his injury history — is easily the top remaining free-agent back. He could soon start lining up visits.
The Baltimore Sun reports the Steelers are interested in free agent DE Elvis Dumervil.
Reporter Aaron Wilson considers the Steelers a team to "keep an eye on." Dumervil has now been connected to the Steelers and Ravens since Friday's contract fiasco, and expressed interest in playing for the Dolphins. If the price is right, he'd restore the pass-rushing heat Pittsburgh lost when it cut James Harrison.
Bradshaw, Dumervil, and Lloyd and I'd feel a lot better.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Yes. Come on Colbert, pull this off. Please please please.I dont think we can afford Dumervil, but I think the NFLPA will sort this out and he'll be back in DEN anyway.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Same could be said for Ne, den, bal, nyg, gb and even the colts. It's not like the steelers have made the playoffs or had winning records 12 years in a row.
BigSteelThrill
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
I guess this is not quite a done deal, he still has to come in for his physical. Nothing against Spaeth but I hope he fails and we use that $ to sign Dumervil, Bradshaw, Butler or Lloyd (if Sanders departs).The Hank called this one. Decent blocker, no hands. Meh.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Absolutely.I guess this is not quite a done deal, he still has to come in for his physical. Nothing against Spaeth but I hope he fails and we use that $ to sign Dumervil, Bradshaw, Butler or Lloyd (if Sanders departs).The Hank called this one. Decent blocker, no hands. Meh.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Even if Spaeth fails the physical they'll be bringing in somebody at TE. They aren't going into the year with just Paulson and ??? as the only healthy TEs on the roster.
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Frankly, if teams felt Ahmad was healthy he would already have been signed. If they pass on him, I would say its more likely that they don't trust his health than any performance related reasons.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Well THAT report said no one besides GB even had interest in him. Havent seen antything to this point that makes one thing he isnt healthy.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
With what??
The Hank
Footballguy
My best guess?...IOU's.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
The Steelers still have options to create space if they need it. They won't be signing anyone to huge, front loaded contracts but they aren't completely out of the free agent market.
B-Deep
Footballguy
Just saw this
Since James Harrison was released by the Pittsburgh Steelers upon refusing to accept a pay cut, he has publicly flirted with at least a half-dozen teams featuring a 3-4 defensive scheme. His agent recently insisted that six teams are interested in the veteran linebacker.
So why hasn't Harrison signed -- or at least made team visits?
It appears that he and his agent have significantly overestimated his value.
With NFL executives congregating in Phoenix over the weekend, SI.com's Peter King finds that Harrison is "the coldest name of them all" at the NFL Annual Meeting.
Unable to find a single person willing to admit an interest in Harrison, King believes the 34-year-old will have to settle for less than half of the $6.57 million he was scheduled to earn with the Steelers.
Frankly, King's report isn't the least bit surprising. While Harrison remains stout against the run, it was obvious that he had lost a few steps as a pass rusher last season. No team with a 3-4 defense is going to spend big money for a declining, injury-prone edge rusher no longer pressuring quarterbacks on a consistent basis.
It will be interesting to see if Harrison's market is cold enough that he would consider returning to Pittsburgh on a contract worth less than the reduced rate he rejected just over a week ago.
Since James Harrison was released by the Pittsburgh Steelers upon refusing to accept a pay cut, he has publicly flirted with at least a half-dozen teams featuring a 3-4 defensive scheme. His agent recently insisted that six teams are interested in the veteran linebacker.
So why hasn't Harrison signed -- or at least made team visits?
It appears that he and his agent have significantly overestimated his value.
With NFL executives congregating in Phoenix over the weekend, SI.com's Peter King finds that Harrison is "the coldest name of them all" at the NFL Annual Meeting.
Unable to find a single person willing to admit an interest in Harrison, King believes the 34-year-old will have to settle for less than half of the $6.57 million he was scheduled to earn with the Steelers.
Frankly, King's report isn't the least bit surprising. While Harrison remains stout against the run, it was obvious that he had lost a few steps as a pass rusher last season. No team with a 3-4 defense is going to spend big money for a declining, injury-prone edge rusher no longer pressuring quarterbacks on a consistent basis.
It will be interesting to see if Harrison's market is cold enough that he would consider returning to Pittsburgh on a contract worth less than the reduced rate he rejected just over a week ago.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Harrison was a dummkopf. He needed to realize that taking a pay cut at age 34 when you have a backloaded contract is just part of the business and not a personal insult. Take the $4.5+ million offer and finish you career on the team where you are most appreciated and can still make an impact.At this point he likely isn't going to get much above league minimum from anyone including the Steelers. It will be interesting to see what he ultimately decides to do.
B-Deep
Footballguy
I've never thought he was all that bright. I think his war with the comisioner was ill conceived from the start.But I am not a Steelers fan, some Steelers fans did not agree with me.I also think his mouth probably plays into the way other teams look at him.ETA: I just thought, it would not surprise me for him to say he has been blacklisted.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
While there are definitely Steelers fans that think Harrison was unfairly singled out by the commissioner I don't think there are many fans that thought it was a good idea for him to hurl insults at Goodell. While I don't think he is necessarily blacklisted I do think that Harrison's propensity to draw personal fouls and that he is always one hit away from another suspension may be factors on whether or not a team wants to sign him.That said the main issues are his age, injury history and salary demands. Harrison and/or his agent just badly overestimated his worth.
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B-Deep
Footballguy
I'd agree
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
@evansilva: More arrows pointing toward #Steelers giving #Alabama RB Eddie Lacy strong consideration at No. 17 overall: http://t.co/SK7oiJkIfH
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
That's hardly anything I'd consider "arrows pointing toward strong consideration at 17." Maybe that's just me. It's basically the same thing Colbert said a couple/three months ago. "We need more talent at RB."
I remain skeptical they'd burn a 1 on a runner in this crop. Too many similar backs that could be had in 2-3. Lacy's the best back in the class, but he ain't worth a top 20. If they take him there that is gonna smack of desperation.
I remain skeptical they'd burn a 1 on a runner in this crop. Too many similar backs that could be had in 2-3. Lacy's the best back in the class, but he ain't worth a top 20. If they take him there that is gonna smack of desperation.
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Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I like Lacy, but not in the 1st. Too many other holes to use a 1st on a RB, plus there should be guys good enough to beat out Dwyer/Redman in the 3rd-4th round. Plus it looks like Lacy is supposed to go in the 2nd round, why take him mid-1st? If we could trade down to late 1st/early 2nd and get a good return in picks then Im fine with taking him.I also dont see how that link/Tomlin implies they want Lacy or are considering using a 1st for a RB. Tomlin just said what everyone knows, they need to add talent to the RB position.
The Hank
Footballguy
I agree, I dont see RB in the 1st rd (though everyone position should be considered with their #1) -- I think their back is waiting for them in the later rounds -- 1st rd pick will be BPA (outside of QB, NFL 3-4 DE and OT). I could see a myriad of possibilities for #1; WR, LB (or undersized DE to convert to LB), DT, S, and even TE.Similar threads
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