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I am having a tough time figuring out options to watch the NFL draft. I know it will be live on NFL Network, but I do not have cable and am wondering if it will also be streamed on the NFL network website.

Also, with a Thursday night course, I will have an hour or so where I would like to stream from my phone or tablet. Anyone have insight?

 
This really isnt as outlandish as many might think. There is a pretty strong belief that Mathews is just about fully developed already and won't grow as much in the pros as the other guys. Lewan was said to be a top 5 pick at times last year but then decided to go back to school. Maybe he found out he wasn't a top 5 pick, I don't know. In the end, there is Robinson as the cleat top T and then Mathews/Lewan in the group Beijing him IMO.

 
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Five NFL draft surprise predictions

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League Editor

The Around The League crew is not laden with "draft experts," but sometimes we play them on our podcast.

After an enlightening conversation last week with draft maven Greg Cosell, we felt emboldened enough to start making some irresponsible predictions with the draft arriving next week.

Here are five predictions for draft surprises from the gang:

Tampa Bay Buccaneers draft a quarterback at No. 7 overall
Sammy Watkins is the best match for a Bucs team that desperately needs a second fiddle to Vincent Jackson after trading Mike Williams to Buffalo. This is a deep wide-receiver class, though, which means Tampa Bay can pick up a potential starter such as Penn State's Allen Robinson in the second round. The new regime essentially has washed its hands of draft-weekend trade bait Mike Glennon. The new face of the franchise might soon be Johnny Manziel.

-- Chris Wesseling

New England Patriots draft their next starting quarterback
The dirty secret about Ryan Mallett: He hasn't developed as the Patriots have hoped. They haven't been able to trade him, in part, because no one is convinceed he's improved as a pro. Mallett's contract expires after this season, and the Patriots should get value out of him as their backup quarterback this year. And then we'd expect him to leave via free agency.

Tom Brady, meanwhile, is signed through 2017 on a fully guaranteed contract. He should be New England's starter for at least two more years, but this is the first time the Patriots could draft a quarterback that could legitimately still be on his rookie contract when Brady retires. The Patriots need a backup for next year. They could look at developing a future starter for when Brady gets closer to 40. In a deep draft for quarterbacks, the Patriots could invest a second- or third-round pick and see what happens.

-- Gregg Rosethal

JFF lands in Big D
There's a case to be made -- a strong one at that -- that the Dallas Cowboys have no business even thinking about using their first pick on a quarterback. Tony Romo is under contract and has been incredibly productive (if not successful) during his nine-year run as starter. Then there's the Dallas roster, forever top-heavy and in dire need of reinforcements.

But Johnny Football starring at Jerrah World for the next decade? The thought alone has to be catnip for Jerry Jones, who wants nothing more than to return the Cowboys to the center of the football universe. Jones is 71. He knows he can't run the show forever. If he buys into the hype of Manziel as a unique and charasmatic star, a bold franchise rebranding must be tempting.

-- Dan Hanzus

Carolina Panthers trade up to No. 10 to get their starting left tackle
Cam Newton needs a blindside blocker, badly. The Panthers aren't going to get that plug-and-play left tackle by sitting at No. 28. Short of trading up, Dave Gettleman stares at entering the 2014 with a huge question mark in front of a quarterback coming off ankle surgery. Gettleman won't like parting with assets, but he'll do it to protect his Pro Bowl quarterback.

After failing to move up in the draft, the Lions could make the perfect trade partner for Gettleman. With the top two pass rushers and top two receivers off the board, Detroit could move back in the first round, grab additional picks and still get a receiver or cornerback -- in a draft deep at both positions. With one of the top three offensive tackles left on the board -- and no glaring need at the position -- Detroit could sell to the highest bidder.

-- Kevin Patra

Lions trade up for Sammy Watkins
Is wide receiver a burning need for Detroit? No, but that might not stop the Lions from grabbing the draft's most alluring pass-catcher in Clemson's Sammy Watkins.

The team has heaped attention on the wideout for months and went so far as to bring in Watkins for a high-octane visit with Lions vice chairman Bill Ford Jr. and Detroit's receiving duo of Calvin Johnson and Golden Tate.

There's no way Watkins gets anywhere near Detroit at No. 10, but Rapoport was told the Lions loom as candidates to trade into the top five, a move that takes guts.

New coach Jim Caldwell was brought to town to develop Matthew Stafford and turn Detroit's offense into a machine that wipes away teams through the air. The Lions have plenty of other holes, but this isn't about drafting for need -- it's about adding a potential once-in-a-decade weapon to the mix.

-- Marc Sessler

We talked about all these potential surprises ball and kicked around the latest draft news on "The Around The League Podcast."
 
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Completely agree.

I mean, what would they do? Split the 2nd & 3rd rounds into their own days? There are certainly talented players there but please no.
I think they would either do

1 / 2 / 3&4 / 5&6&7

or

1 / 2&3 / 4&5 / 6&7 /

Terrible idea to stretch it out more
OrPicks 1-16/Picks 17-32/Rounds 2&3/Rounds 4-7

Never put anything past them
I feel like I would prefer this to the current format. Theater rounds lose the excitement when they don't have any highlights or analysis about every pick. They announce and pick and talk about guys selected yesterday or guys picked five to ten picks ago.

 
This really isnt as outlandish as many might think. There is a pretty strong belief that Mathews is just about fully developed already and won't grow as much in the pros as the other guys. Lewan was said to be a top 5 pick at times last year but then decided to go back to school. Maybe he found out he wasn't a top 5 pick, I don't know.In the end, there is Robinson as the cleat top T and then Mathews/Lewan in the group Beijing him IMO.
Matt Miller tweeted the other day that this is the buzz he is getting too. The difference is guys like Miller mention it is at what will happen, they don't adjust their board to fit what they think will happen like they do at ESPN and NFLN.

 
I'm speculating that the Bills are going to trade up for either Watkins or Evans. I'd guess at the Raiders' spot.
If they are looking at offensive skill positions I think staying put and drafting Ebron assuming Evans doesn't fall makes more sense than trading up.

 
I'm speculating that the Bills are going to trade up for either Watkins or Evans. I'd guess at the Raiders' spot.
If they are looking at offensive skill positions I think staying put and drafting Ebron assuming Evans doesn't fall makes more sense than trading up.
Depends on what "makes sense" means. We normally think of it in terms of getting the most value from all of your picks.

In this case, I think getting an impact WR is worth the "loss" of the value you'd get from the picks you trade (depending on how many picks they are, of course).

 
I'm speculating that the Bills are going to trade up for either Watkins or Evans. I'd guess at the Raiders' spot.
If they are looking at offensive skill positions I think staying put and drafting Ebron assuming Evans doesn't fall makes more sense than trading up.
Depends on what "makes sense" means. We normally think of it in terms of getting the most value from all of your picks.

In this case, I think getting an impact WR is worth the "loss" of the value you'd get from the picks you trade (depending on how many picks they are, of course).
I am usually hesitant to advocate trading up, but especially in this draft. There probably won't be a trade up I like in this draft if it involves giving up a pick anywhere in the top 100.

 
I am usually hesitant to advocate trading up, but especially in this draft. There probably won't be a trade up I like in this draft if it involves giving up a pick anywhere in the top 100.
I would agree with that.

But teams like Buffalo that feel the pressure from being in the same division as the Patriots probably need difference makers more than they need all around goodness. IMO

 
The NFL Draft: Which Team Has It Best?

Determining who has the most capital to spend in this year’s draft

BY BILL BARNWELL ON APRIL 29, 2014 http://grantland.com/features/the-nfl-draft-which-team-has-it-best/

[SIZE=5.5em]I[/SIZE]t’s two weeks late, but the NFL draft is almost here. Delayed from its typical late-April slot because of a spring show booking up Radio City Music Hall (which itself was ultimately postponed), the draft that would typically be in the books by now; instead, we’ve got just over a week to prepare. And with the deepest crop in recent memory, no clear no. 1 selection, and a trade-friendly CBA in place, we could also see plenty of surprises during next Thursday’s opening round. As an event, the NFL draft thrives on shock moments — or, at the very least, Jets moments — and all it takes is one team to fall in love with a player for such a shock to occur. With the extra week of padding in this year’s silly season, that seems more likely to happen than ever before.

Of course, to go get those subjects of affection, teams need assets. Since you can’t buy a pick (like in the NBA) but you can trade picks (unlike in MLB), that capital for making moves on draft day exists almost entirely in the form of selections. When teams have more picks to work with, they find it easier to justify gambling on a lottery ticket. That makes it useful to know in advance exactly what each team has to work with as they all head into draft day.

But how do we determine that? There are a couple ways. Traditionally, organizations have used the trade value chart Jimmy Johnson designed in the 1990s, but those numbers are antiquated and based on an old CBA. While some might still use it, smarter franchises like the 49ers have created their own updated draft value charts. But even those methods have lost their value.

A better method for figuring out the value of each individual pick comes from Football Perspective’s Chase Stuart, who used theApproximate Value metric to figure out what teams could expect to receive, on average, from each draft pick. The measure is far from exact — the word “approximate” is there for a reason — but it’s unbiased and should be useful enough for a concept like this. I’ve gone through and measured each team’s expected draft haul given the pick capital it has per the values found by Stuart, which you can find here. I’ll also include the ranks in terms of the more traditional trade value charts in the table at the bottom of this piece.

Enough preamble. Who has the most and least to work with next week? Let’s start with the league’s barest cupboards and go from there. Keep in mind that the average NFL team has 44.8 points of expected Approximate Value to work with from its picks.

The Have-Nots32. Indianapolis Colts (17.3 points of Approximate Value)

Traded Away: 1st-, 4th-, 7th-round picks

Acquired: 7th-round pick (trade)

It’s no surprise to see the Colts at the bottom of this chart; general manager Ryan Grigson has been more aggressive than anybody else in football in dealing away his picks. While his first foray in trading up landed the Colts T.Y. Hilton, most of these trades have not been great — Trent Richardson, in particular, sticks out like a sore thumb that can’t hold on to footballs. Primarily as a result of that trade, the Colts have actually traded away 17.7 points of expected Approximate Value from this year’s draft class. Unless they make another deal to trade up, their first selection in this year’s draft will be 59th overall, and they’re also missing their fourth-round pick by virtue of another deal with the Browns. This is a really risky way to run a football team, but Andrew Luck cures a lot of ills.

31. Kansas City Chiefs (28.9 points of Approximate Value)

Traded Away: 2nd-, 7th-round picks

Acquired: 6th-round pick (trade)

The Chiefs dealt two second-rounders to the 49ers for Alex Smith, which was pretty good for San Francisco given that the 49ers had little leverage and Smith is up for a new contract. Dallas sent them its sixth-rounder in exchange for the seventh-rounder and reserve linebacker Edgar Jones, who somehow started four games for the Cowboys at end before going on short-season injured reserve and losing his spot altogether.

30. Seattle Seahawks (29.4 points of Approximate Value)

Traded Away: 3rd-, 7th-round picks

Acquired: 5th-round pick (trade)

The third-rounder went to Minnesota as the final piece of the Percy Harvin deal, a trade that still doesn’t have a clear winner. Harvin was great in a limited role during the Super Bowl, but that was his only complete game for the Seahawks all season, and they might very well have gotten more out of Cordarrelle Patterson, whom the Vikings took with the first-rounder they received for Harvin. Flags fly forever, but given that the Seahawks won the Super Bowl by [quickly checks] 88 points, that flag’s probably still flying if Harvin’s not wearing Seattle colors. (Doug Baldwin just scored another touchdown on the Broncos. Not even sure how that happened.)

29. Washington (30.0 points of Approximate Value)

Traded Away: 1st-round pick

Acquired: None

Like the Colts, the pick Washington traded away is worth more (30.2 points) than the rest of their draft altogether. The RG3 trade has now gone the full 180; by the 2013 draft, it seemed like an obvious steal by Washington, but now, one year later, it looks like one of the greatest heists in history for the Rams, given that they dealt the second-overall pick for another second-overall pick and picked up eight other selections (including four other top-50 picks from various trades) in the process. Using the values from Chase’s model, the Rams dealt away 30.2 points of approximate value and received 91.3 points in return; that’s like dealing the second overall pick for the second overall pick in the next three drafts. Of course, the Rams have used some of those picks on the likes of Isaiah Pead, and RG3’s value is probably going to land somewhere between our post-2012 and post-2013 observations, but it was very clearly the right idea for the Rams to make the trade.

28. Denver Broncos (32.6 points of Approximate Value)

Traded Away: None

Acquired: None

No moves here. Denver’s low score is a product of making it to the Super Bowl and signing a bunch of free agents each offseason, which prevents the Broncos from receiving compensatory picks under the league’s system. Speaking of …

The Notables18. Dallas Cowboys (40.5 points of Approximate Value)

Traded Away: 6th-round pick

Acquired: Five 7th-round picks (three compensatory)

That’s exciting, right? Because the Cowboys can’t afford to sign many free agents or retain their own, they’ve managed to come away with three compensatory picks to go along with two other picks they’ve acquired in trades. The bad news? All six of Dallas’s seventh-rounders come at pick 229 or later, and the Football Perspective model finds that these picks are so historically useless that it doesn’t assign them any value whatsoever. Sorry, Cowboys.

11. Baltimore Ravens (48.0 points of Approximate Value)

Traded Away: 4th-, 5th-, 7th-round picks

Acquired: 3rd-, two 4th-, 5th-round picks (all compensatory)

Nobody seems to get more out of the compensatory draft market than the Ravens, and 2014 is no exception. After losing several key players to free agency and doing little in the marketplace, the Ravens were awarded more compensatory draft value than anybody else; the 13.6 expected points they’ve acquired from those four compensatory picks is roughly equivalent to getting the 27th-overall pick of the draft for free. The compensatory picks represent more than 28 percent of Baltimore’s total draft capital, and if they didn’t have those four picks, they would fall from 11th in draft assets to 28th.

Other teams with large compensatory hauls include the Steelers (third-, fifth-, and sixth-round picks, for 7.7 expected points of value) and the Packers (third- and fifth-rounders, 7.1 points). The picks these teams receive come at the end of their respective rounds and are not tradable.

The Beasts5. Atlanta Falcons (55.4 points of Approximate Value)

Traded Away: None

Acquired: 4th-, two 7th-round picks (all compensatory)

There should be a neon, blinking “FOR NOW” hovering over this entry. Atlanta, of course, has been heavily linked to a trade for the first-overall pick, which makes sense on a few levels. The Falcons have operated under a stars-and-scrubs approach under general manager Thomas Dimitroff, who has been aggressive going after veterans in free agency while giving up multiple picks in past drafts to trade up and acquire wideout Julio Jones and cornerback Desmond Trufant. Dimitroff is a man who trusts his read. There’s nothing inherently wrong with the stars-and-scrubs approach, but it’s a high-variance strategy: When it goes right, you get the 2012 Falcons. When the stars don’t play well or get hurt, you get the 2013 Falcons. The Falcons also had the league’s worst Adjusted Sack Rate last year and did virtually nothing to upgrade their pass rush this offseason, instead bringing in run-first linemen like Paul Soliai and Tyson Jackson ahead of what might be a move to a 3-4 as their primary defense. (Here’s where you fill in coach buzzwords about hybrid fronts, wanting to be multiple, etc.) Jadeveon Clowney was a 4-3 end at South Carolina, but he’s a true athletic freak and the 3-4 shouldn’t be a problem.

What might be a problem, though, is the cost of trading up. Assuming the Falcons wanted to move from their sixth slot to the first pick, they’d have to pay a hefty price. The ol’ trade value chart says the first pick is worth 3,000 points, while the sixth pick is worth 1,600 points; Atlanta could deal its entire draft under that chart and still come up well short. It’ll unquestionably take at least one more future first-round pick, but given that general managers often (perhaps incorrectly) devalue future draft picks in trades, the Falcons are probably looking at more than their 2015 first to sweeten the pot. My guess is that it would take Atlanta’s 2014 and 2015 first-round picks, a third-rounder in 2014, and a second-rounder in 2016. And, at that price, are the Falcons better off waiting for the sixth pick, when they might be able to come away with a franchise left tackle to move the disappointing Sam Baker off Matt Ryan’s blind side? The decision could come to define this franchise over the next few years.

4. Jacksonville Jaguars (66.3 points of Approximate Value)

Traded Away: None

Acquired: 4th-, two 5th-, 6th-round picks (all trades)

The Jaguars need just about everything except a left tackle and a wide receiver, and they might take Sammy Watkins anyway. If Houston takes a quarterback and the Rams don’t trade down or have interest in Clowney, Jacksonville could have the South Carolina defensive end sitting in its lap. The Jags could very well then field a godfather offer from somebody like Atlanta to move down three spots, where they could draft a quarterback and have multiple future picks with which to rebuild. Even if Clowney’s gone, they could field the same offer for somebody interested in Watkins, like the Buccaneers (who pick seventh), Bills (ninth), or Titans (11th). They have flexibility, and by dealing away three former Gene Smith picks (Eugene Monroe, Mike Thomas, and Blaine Gabbert), they’ve picked up 10.1 points of draft capital, roughly equivalent to the 47th pick.

3. Houston Texans (70.6 points of Approximate Value)

Traded Away: None

Acquired: 4th-, 6th-, 7th-round picks (compensatory), 6th-round pick (trade)

The first-overall pick is worth 34.6 points, just over 49 percent of Houston’s overall draft capital. The Texans could realistically consider one of the big three quarterbacks (Blake Bortles, Teddy Bridgewater, and Johnny Manziel), Clowney, Watkins, or a trade of the pick. Khalil Mack would be a reach, and they won’t pick a left tackle with Duane Brown around.

So here’s what they have to ask themselves: Given that Clowney appears to be the favorite, even if the Texans want to draft a quarterback, which would you prefer? On one side, there’s Clowney. On the other side, there’s — just to throw a possibility out there, if Atlanta gives them two ones and two twos — Manziel, Auburn pass-rusher Dee Ford, and a future first- and second-round pick. Or Mack, fast-rising quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo, and those same future picks. Houston can take Clowney and still draft a quarterback with the 33rd pick, but that also prevents the Texans from going after a much-needed interior lineman at 33. It’ll be a fascinating decision, regardless of what they choose to do.

2. St. Louis Rams (75.1 points of Approximate Value)

Traded Away: None

Acquired: 1st-, 7th-round picks (trade); 6th-, two 7th-round picks (compensatory)

One of the problems with the Rams, of course, is that they always seem to be forced into accounting for their old mistakes. If they draft Auburn tackle Greg Robinson second, it’s because of Jake Long. If they grab Watkins, it’s in part because Tavon Austin was so ineffective during his rookie season. They can’t take Clowney with Chris Long and Robert Quinn around. They could trade down, but after trading down so many times with the picks they got from the RG3 deal, they’re a team that actually needs a star-caliber player more than depth. The default pick is Robinson, but until they move on from Sam Bradford, does it really matter?

1. Cleveland Browns (79.1 points of Approximate Value)

Traded Away: None

Acquired: 1st-, 3rd-, 4th-round picks (all trades)

The Browns may have fired virtually their entire organization, but the outgoing front office left new general manager Kevin CostnerRay Farmer with more 2014 draft capital than anybody else in football. Cleveland has three of the first 35 selections and five of the first 85.

What should the Browns do with all those assets? Tough to say right now, given that they pick fourth and virtually anything could happen with the first three picks. They don’t really have an obvious fit for Clowney, having already invested heavily in Barkevious Mingo and Paul Kruger as pass-rushers. Watkins and Josh Gordon would be a terrifying wideout tandem, but the team has bigger holes elsewhere. The left tackles are out, with Joe Thomas around. If the Browns stay put at four, that pick will likely end up as one of the quarterbacks (if they’re in love with one particular passer) or Khalil Mack. That would allow them to target a quarterback later in the first round; they could very well use the 26th- and 35th-overall picks to move up to, say, the Giants’ selection at 12 and grab a passer there. It all seems to depend on what the Texans do with the first-overall pick. All we know right now is that the Browns have the most chips at the table.

See the link for the table for all the teams -http://grantland.com/features/the-nfl-draft-which-team-has-it-best/
 
I'm speculating that the Bills are going to trade up for either Watkins or Evans. I'd guess at the Raiders' spot.
Thus killing their fantasy value. Ouch.
I guess you're totally out on Manuel? Or is it they WRs they have. I think Steve Johnson is guaranteed to start 16 games if healthy. But Williams and Woods could easily be replaced by Evans/Watkins early if either struggles, and with no TE, there will be a fee more balls to go around.
 
I am usually hesitant to advocate trading up, but especially in this draft. There probably won't be a trade up I like in this draft if it involves giving up a pick anywhere in the top 100.
I would agree with that.But teams like Buffalo that feel the pressure from being in the same division as the Patriots probably need difference makers more than they need all around goodness. IMO
they have enough at wr with Johnson and Woods, Goodwin should be a nice complimentary guy too. Could use another but not necessarily in round one. They have nothing at te though. And there isn't much value there later.I think this regime is doomed because of Manuel. But if I am picking for Buffalo I have my eyes on Ebron or Donald round one and wr later unless Evans happens to fall.

 
Draft really sucks to watch now anyways.
Totally agree. This 3 day bull#### pisses me off. Last year totally sucked with little offense in the 1st round. I think I turned it off last year and waited for Friday. I liked when it ate up Saturday and Sunday.
So did everyone else except the NFL and its pocketbook.
Some day, the NFL is going to find it's gotten too big for its britches.
These idiots now are considering the 4 day draft that I thought happened last year.

I'm ready to just punch Goddell right in the throat.
Make it pay per view, a lot of Goodell haters would love to see that.

I still hope they don't play in europe for real(European teams).

 
I'm speculating that the Bills are going to trade up for either Watkins or Evans. I'd guess at the Raiders' spot.
According to Sammy's Twitter feed, he believes a team outside the top 10 is trading up for him.
Sammy and his agent are very smart. Regardless if this is true or not, it sends a message that if you want him, you will need to move up as high as possible in the NFL Draft in order to be sure that you will be able to select him.

 
I am having a tough time figuring out options to watch the NFL draft. I know it will be live on NFL Network, but I do not have cable and am wondering if it will also be streamed on the NFL network website.

Also, with a Thursday night course, I will have an hour or so where I would like to stream from my phone or tablet. Anyone have insight?
Go to a bar like slack jaw would :)

 
Ozzie Newsome: We've 'gotten calls' about No. 17 pickBy Marc Sessler

Around the League Writer

Are the Ravens primed to shop their first-round pick in next month's draft?

"We've already gotten some calls about teams wanting to move up," general manager Ozzie Newsome said Wednesday of Baltimore's 17th overall selection.

NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport noted that clubs are "convinced" the Ravens will swing a deal with a receiver-needy team looking to jump the New York Jets at No. 18. One logical trade partner? We'd look to the San Francisco 49ers, a squad obviously on the prowl for more speed at the position.

Here's what else we learned from the Ravens on Wednesday:

1. "It's important we add a running back," Harbaugh said. The coach reiterated that Baltimore is looking to bring in competition for Ray Rice and Bernard Pierce. As for Rice's legal entanglements, Newsome told reporters the team will "deal with Ray when that time comes," but emphasized that Baltimore was "talking about adding one, even two" backs long before Ray's February arrest.

2. Ozzie didn't have much to say about the national drama of Rolando McClain's on-again, off-again career: "At the end of the day," Newsome said, the former first-round draft pick "retired." Ozzie laughed off the idea that he's lost faith in Crimson Tide players, reminding the room that his son is currently enrolled at Alabama.

3. On the subject of piling up compensatory picks, Newsome gushed: "When you get a lot of picks, it allows you to do things like when we got Eugene Monroe last year."

4. Ozzie confirmed that he was hot on the trail of Brady Quinn during the 2007 draft. Saddled with the 29th pick, the Ravens were in talks to trade up with Dallas at No. 22, but Newsome said the Browns jumped in and "offered more" to the Cowboys. It's a scenario that left Baltimore without a young quarterback to groom, leading directly to the drafting of Joe Flacco one season later.

5. The Ravens like their collection of cornerbacks, but they're a strong bet to add more come May: "You can't have enough corners," Ozzie opined.

6. After Harbaugh said last month that he was "disappointed" with Tyrod Taylor's progress under center, the coach named quarterback depth as one area needing an upgrade. Don't be surprised when the Ravens add a signal-caller in the later rounds.

The latest "Around The League Podcast" breaks out the crystal ball and predicts the potential surprises that could shake up the NFL Draft.
 
I wouldn't mind them splitting the draft into a 4th day if that meant they actually discussed the players being drafted rather than the 1st and 2nd round picks the entire time. But I'd much rather they just do this with the current format.

 
Rotoworld:

SportsRadio 610 Houston reports the Texans and Falcons "will not be working together" on a trade for the No. 1 overall pick.
Per the station, the Falcons are still eyeing a move up from No. 6, but do not believe the player they covet is "worth picking with the No. 1 pick." This aspect of the report makes it a bit unbelievable, as someone who wouldn't fall to No. 6 but also isn't worth the plunge at No. 1 is a suspiciously narrow range of player. NFL.com's Ian Rapoport has refuted the report. Lying season is in full swing, and it's quite possible this story is a part of it.

Related: Falcons, Texans

Source: SportsRadio 610 Houston

According to CBS' Dane Brugler, there's a "real possibility" the Browns select Texas A&M WR Mike Evans at No. 4 overall.
Cleveland is where Rotoworld's Josh Norris has Evans landing in his latest mock draft. For need, it would be a reach for a team with Josh Gordon, but it's possible Evans is among the Browns' top-four players. Gordon and Evans would be a lethal combination. The Browns still need someone to throw the ball.

Related: Browns

Source: Dane Brugler on Twitter
 
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Any thoughts on who will be the biggest draft day surprise, in terms of which team will reach the furthest for a totally unexpected need?

I'm going to throw out the Cowboys who I think might go get Manziel.

 
I am usually hesitant to advocate trading up, but especially in this draft. There probably won't be a trade up I like in this draft if it involves giving up a pick anywhere in the top 100.
I would agree with that.But teams like Buffalo that feel the pressure from being in the same division as the Patriots probably need difference makers more than they need all around goodness. IMO
they have enough at wr with Johnson and Woods, Goodwin should be a nice complimentary guy too. Could use another but not necessarily in round one. They have nothing at te though. And there isn't much value there later.I think this regime is doomed because of Manuel. But if I am picking for Buffalo I have my eyes on Ebron or Donald round one and wr later unless Evans happens to fall.
Good reasoning.

 
Any thoughts on who will be the biggest draft day surprise, in terms of which team will reach the furthest for a totally unexpected need?

I'm going to throw out the Cowboys who I think might go get Manziel.
Dertoit could take Beckham at 10 (in the event that Evans and Watkins are gone).
I've had Beckham mocked to the Bucs over Evans, actually.
Quite possible. The latest comp I've heard with Beckham is Marvin Harrison.

 
Any thoughts on who will be the biggest draft day surprise, in terms of which team will reach the furthest for a totally unexpected need?

I'm going to throw out the Cowboys who I think might go get Manziel.
Dertoit could take Beckham at 10 (in the event that Evans and Watkins are gone).
I've had Beckham mocked to the Bucs over Evans, actually.
Quite possible. The latest comp I've heard with Beckham is Marvin Harrison.
Ive caught heat for mocking Beckham to the bucs...

Caught heat in the teams mock, for moving CLE up from 26 to 18 (or whatever it was) to get Beckham (went Matthews at 4).

He's my no2 WR. End of story. In such, that's how Im mocking him... someone is going to hit the jackpot on him

 
Rotoworld:

ESPN's Adam Schefter indicated on SportsCenter Friday that Buffalo OLB Khalil Mack may still be in the mix to go No. 1 overall to the Texans.
"I do not believe Khalil Mack can be dismissed from the conversation at the No. 1 pick," were Schefter's words. Mack has never been truly dismissed from the discussion, but the commonly held expectation is Houston will select South Carolina DE/OLB Jadeveon Clowney. It's worth noting Mack might be a better scheme fit than Clowney for Romeo Crennel's 3-4. In April, SI's Peter King reported a "friend" of Houston GM Rick Smith told him Smith prefers Mack over Clowney. The Texans also shocked the world in 2006 when they picked Mario Williams over Reggie Bush at No. 1, though Smith wasn't their GM at the time.

Related: Texans
 
I'm speculating that the Bills are going to trade up for either Watkins or Evans. I'd guess at the Raiders' spot.
Thus killing their fantasy value. Ouch.
I guess you're totally out on Manuel? Or is it they WRs they have. I think Steve Johnson is guaranteed to start 16 games if healthy. But Williams and Woods could easily be replaced by Evans/Watkins early if either struggles, and with no TE, there will be a fee more balls to go around.
Buffalo is one of those teams I pretty much ignore as far as fantasy. Taking Manuel in the 1st round shows that they don't know what they are doing. Cutting DaRick Rogers instead of the bums in front of him is another example. Top that off with playing in some of the worst conditions in the NFL come FF playoff time, they are a FF wasteland.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Any thoughts on who will be the biggest draft day surprise, in terms of which team will reach the furthest for a totally unexpected need?

I'm going to throw out the Cowboys who I think might go get Manziel.
I think Donald & Benjamin will go higher than expected.

 

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