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2015 New York Giants - WK10 Cruz announces season ending calf surgery (1 Viewer)
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netnalp
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2015 Schedule
Week 1: Sunday, Sept. 13 – at Dallas Cowboys, 8:30 p.m.
Week 2: Sunday, Sept. 20 -- vs. Atlanta Falcons, 1 p.m.
Week 3: Thursday, Sept. 24 – vs. Washington, 8:25 p.m.
Week 4: Sunday, Oct. 4 – at Buffalo Bills, 1 p.m.
Week 5: Sunday, Oct. 11 – vs. San Francisco 49ers, 8:30 p.m.
Week 6: Monday, Oct. 19 – at Philadelphia Eagles, 8:30 p.m.
Week 7: Sunday, Oct. 25 – vs. Dallas Cowboys, 4:25 p.m.
Week 8: Sunday, Nov. 1 -- at New Orleans Saints, 1 p.m.
Week 9: Sunday, Nov. 8 – at Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 4:05 p.m.
Week 10: Sunday, Nov. 15 – vs. New England Patriots, 4:25 p.m.
Week 11: Sunday, Nov. 22 – BYE WEEK
Week 12: Sunday, Nov. 29 – at Washington, 1 p.m.
Week 13: Sunday, Dec. 6 -- vs. New York Jets, 1 p.m.
Week 14: Monday, Dec. 14 -- at Miami Dolphins, 8:30 p.m.
Week 15: Sunday, Dec. 20 – vs. Carolina Panthers, 1 p.m.
Week 16: Sunday, Dec. 27 -- at Minnesota Vikings, 1 p.m.
Week 17: Sunday, Jan. 3 -- vs. Philadelphia Eagles, 1 p.m.
Week 1: Sunday, Sept. 13 – at Dallas Cowboys, 8:30 p.m.
Week 2: Sunday, Sept. 20 -- vs. Atlanta Falcons, 1 p.m.
Week 3: Thursday, Sept. 24 – vs. Washington, 8:25 p.m.
Week 4: Sunday, Oct. 4 – at Buffalo Bills, 1 p.m.
Week 5: Sunday, Oct. 11 – vs. San Francisco 49ers, 8:30 p.m.
Week 6: Monday, Oct. 19 – at Philadelphia Eagles, 8:30 p.m.
Week 7: Sunday, Oct. 25 – vs. Dallas Cowboys, 4:25 p.m.
Week 8: Sunday, Nov. 1 -- at New Orleans Saints, 1 p.m.
Week 9: Sunday, Nov. 8 – at Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 4:05 p.m.
Week 10: Sunday, Nov. 15 – vs. New England Patriots, 4:25 p.m.
Week 11: Sunday, Nov. 22 – BYE WEEK
Week 12: Sunday, Nov. 29 – at Washington, 1 p.m.
Week 13: Sunday, Dec. 6 -- vs. New York Jets, 1 p.m.
Week 14: Monday, Dec. 14 -- at Miami Dolphins, 8:30 p.m.
Week 15: Sunday, Dec. 20 – vs. Carolina Panthers, 1 p.m.
Week 16: Sunday, Dec. 27 -- at Minnesota Vikings, 1 p.m.
Week 17: Sunday, Jan. 3 -- vs. Philadelphia Eagles, 1 p.m.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
I think Coughlin will have to make the playoffs this year for sure. I am a Coughlin supporter, but will acknowledge that if they don't make playoffs this year he deserves to be let go.
Nobody is concerned that Pugh and Richburg are barley if even 300lbs?
That has to be the 2 smallest combined interior lineman in the league. They are going to get pushed around by some 330 pound beasts.
Pugh is hoping the Giants draft Sherff ... he'd better be careful what he hopes for. Sherff is exactly what they need and Pugh could be out of a job
Yenrub
Footballguy
Monk do you do any research before you post? There are a ton of starting centers who are barley 300 lbs.
Richburg is listed at 6’3 298 (Per Ourlads all heights and weights are from there)
Pugh 6’4 307
Here are the interior linemen combos for the NFC East (I’m assuming you think Pugh is going to move to guard)
You should notice that a combo of Pugh & Richburg will not be the smallest combo in the division (I don't have time to look at the whole league)
Dallas
C- Fredrick 312
LG- Leary 318
RG -Martin 308
Philly
C- Kelce 280
LG - Mathis 295
RG -Barbre 305
Washington
C - Litchenstieger 295
LG - Lauvao 315
RG - Chester 315
Giants
C - Richburg 298
LG - Pugh 307
RG - Schwartz 340
Last season’s 4 Pro Bowl centers were:
Mike Pouncey – 6’5 303
Travis Fredrick 6’4 312
Jason Kelce 6’3 280
Nick Mangold 6’4 307
Pro Bowl Tackles
Ryan Clady 6’6 325
Jason Peters 6’4 340
Tyron Smith 6’5 308
Joe Staley 6’6 315
Joe Thomas 6’7 312
Trent Williams 6’5 314
Pro Bowl Guards
Jahri Evans 6’4 318
Kyle Long 6’6 311
Mike Iupati 6’5 331
Zack Martin 6’4 308
Josh Sitton 6’3 318
Marshal Yanda 6’4 315
Richburg is listed at 6’3 298 (Per Ourlads all heights and weights are from there)
Pugh 6’4 307
Here are the interior linemen combos for the NFC East (I’m assuming you think Pugh is going to move to guard)
You should notice that a combo of Pugh & Richburg will not be the smallest combo in the division (I don't have time to look at the whole league)
Dallas
C- Fredrick 312
LG- Leary 318
RG -Martin 308
Philly
C- Kelce 280
LG - Mathis 295
RG -Barbre 305
Washington
C - Litchenstieger 295
LG - Lauvao 315
RG - Chester 315
Giants
C - Richburg 298
LG - Pugh 307
RG - Schwartz 340
Last season’s 4 Pro Bowl centers were:
Mike Pouncey – 6’5 303
Travis Fredrick 6’4 312
Jason Kelce 6’3 280
Nick Mangold 6’4 307
Pro Bowl Tackles
Ryan Clady 6’6 325
Jason Peters 6’4 340
Tyron Smith 6’5 308
Joe Staley 6’6 315
Joe Thomas 6’7 312
Trent Williams 6’5 314
Pro Bowl Guards
Jahri Evans 6’4 318
Kyle Long 6’6 311
Mike Iupati 6’5 331
Zack Martin 6’4 308
Josh Sitton 6’3 318
Marshal Yanda 6’4 315
netnalp
Footballguy
http://www.bigblueinteractive.com/2015/04/23/jerry-reeses-2015-pre-draft-press-conference-player-qas/
Cruz, Pugh, Berhe, Prince and Jennings are probably the most informative
Cruz, Pugh, Berhe, Prince and Jennings are probably the most informative
netnalp
Footballguy
I also read that Pugh has added 10lbs of lean mass. His listed "official" weights might not be accurate anymore.
First full offseason for Richburg, it would be expected he's stronger and possibly heavier.
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I surprised how small the Eagles are ... Philly list Kelce and mathis at 295 & 298
But Giants list Pugh at 301 & Richburg at 298
Have to assume that 0 posts about pick means everyone is as disappointed as me.
Flowers? Are you kidding me ... This guy will not help this year and will never be a LT.
Big and strong but can't pass protect. Poor balance and footwork, lots of penalties.
Local radio and NFL radio think it was one of the worst picks in the 1st round
Flowers? Are you kidding me ... This guy will not help this year and will never be a LT.
Big and strong but can't pass protect. Poor balance and footwork, lots of penalties.
Local radio and NFL radio think it was one of the worst picks in the 1st round
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Khy
Footballguy
I'm not a big fan of the pick, but it's mainly because I felt there were better options on the board at the pick.
When they picked Danny Shelton, Todd Gurley, Shane Ray, Bud Dupree, Damarious Randall, Randy Gregory and Malcom Brown were all still on the board. I just feel like all of those guys fit a bigger need for us than OT.
That said though, going into tonight, Gregory is still on the board. Landon Collins is still there. Jaelen Strong is still there (if they wanted another WR), Eli Harold is there who I'm less than enamored with I'd much prefer Eddie Goldman DT from Florida State.
All I'm saying, is there's still plenty of talent left. Guys that I thought should've gone in the first round and thanks to a few questionable picks by teams like the Colts are still on the board. I'd LOVE to see Gregory slide to them or for them to make a small move up tonight to grab him.
Now, my view on Flowers
He is probably the most physically gifted of the tackles in this draft. He's an absolute MONSTER in run blocking, he'll just take two guys and throw them around like Bane then grab the next guy. That said, he's a massive liability in Pass Protection. As you said, he has poor footwork, his balance isn't terrible I think his worst issue is his hands. He kind of looks like a fat guy falling down the stairs flailing his arms all over the place as he takes his steps back off the snap. I think we just need to hope that he can be coached. With some footwork coaching and hand work coaching he has all the physical talent to be an All-Pro OT. I think that's the reason they take him there. The Giants have A LOT of confidence in their ability to coach up players. They really feel that a guy with no character concerns, natural athletic ability and the drive to be amazing can be coached into his ability. And they've proven this before plenty of times in Coughlin's tenure. Pierre-Paul is a perfect example of a guy who was so raw his raw skills had raw skills. Two seasons later he was an all pro DE and still would be if not for his back injuries. They are hoping to get the same from Flowers.
IF they can fix his footwork and hand work he'll be one of the best tackles in the NFL
If they CAN'T? Well then this will be a pretty big bust pick.
I'm not a massive fan of the pick, but it was no where near one of the worst picks in the 1st round.
The Redskins took a offensive guard at 5th overall with arguably the #1 player still on the board in Leonard Williams. I'm personally happy about this though.
The Colts took a 2nd round grade (at best) WR in Phillip Dorsett when they already have TY Hilton, Duron Carter, Andre Johnson, Donte Moncrief. It made zero sense and was a seriously horrible pick. Malcom Brown WAS ON THE BOARD!
The Vikings took Trae Waynes, a lot of people felt he wasn't even close to the best corner in the draft. He's average at best and not worth anything near a Top 12 pick.
The Browns took a center at 19th overall when they already have Alex Mack who is a Top 3 NFL center. Made so little sense I couldn't even process the pick.
Do I love the pick? Was I jumping up and down in my living room like I was last year after they drafted Beckham? No. I was really really hoping they'd take Gurley it just made so much sense to me.
Do I hate the pick? Also no, this is an immediate upgrade to their offensive line in every way and they could very easily be this years Cowboys.
Their line went from the putrid look of
LT - Will Beatty
LG - John Jerry
C - Weston Richburg
RG - Geoff Schwartz
RT - Justin Pugh
to the much more healthy look of
LT - Will Beatty
LG - Geoff Schwartz
C - Weston Richburg
RG - Justin Pugh
RT - Ereck Flowers
He can develop his pass protection skills at RT for awhile and hopefully in 2-3 years he becomes the dominant tackle his athletic gifts should provide him and can then move to the blind side at LT.
Khy
Footballguy
Jerry Reese, Marc Ross & Coughlin Post-Draft Interviews
Honestly, I felt like Ross gave the most honest interview with the least amount of generic answers. The way Ross made it sound was that they probably had Scherff right above Flowers neck and neck on the board. But they fully were expecting Scherff to go before them so going into the draft they felt it likely that Flowers was going to be the pick and felt good about that going into last night.
Most of the NFL draft guys seem to agree, athletically he's probably the top OL in the draft. But he's incredibly raw. He'll have quite a few holding calls early in his career unless he makes a magic change to start hitting inside the chest.
Honestly, I felt like Ross gave the most honest interview with the least amount of generic answers. The way Ross made it sound was that they probably had Scherff right above Flowers neck and neck on the board. But they fully were expecting Scherff to go before them so going into the draft they felt it likely that Flowers was going to be the pick and felt good about that going into last night.
Most of the NFL draft guys seem to agree, athletically he's probably the top OL in the draft. But he's incredibly raw. He'll have quite a few holding calls early in his career unless he makes a magic change to start hitting inside the chest.
Khy
Footballguy
Also remember, we have one of the best offensive line coaches in the game in Pat Flaherty. It hasn't been until the last few years where the line was a mess because all of our talent retired. But he build the original dominant offensive line of the early 2000s. I have full confidence that if Flaherty saw Flowers and gave his stamp of approval he either knows that he can fix his technique issues or doesn't feel they're as bad as the media scouts seem to say.
netnalp
Footballguy
Not an exciting pick but it does fill a need. With the run on Oline that happened after, would there have been a starter quality player left in the second round? Also it seems like first round linemen are usually considered a reach. The knocks on Flowers seem to be all coachable issues. He just turned 21 and came out as a junior. If he stayed in school another year he could have been the top OT. Sherif was a 5th year senior and he wasn't vastly better. Flowers has the size and the strength. That's a plus when the young guys on the line were knocked for their strength and physical attributes.
Yes, the commentators are saying it was a reach. But most quickly back pedal a bit saying that their grade was if he was picked to be a LT. That they like him better as a RT or G. For now he's not expected to be the LT on the Giants. He's raw but has a higher ceiling than the others. Maybe he was a reach, but I'm confident he'll be a starter and better than any of the backups on the roster.
Remember all the crap talked about the Cowboy's pick of Martin last year? Just hope it works out. I think it will.
Yes, the commentators are saying it was a reach. But most quickly back pedal a bit saying that their grade was if he was picked to be a LT. That they like him better as a RT or G. For now he's not expected to be the LT on the Giants. He's raw but has a higher ceiling than the others. Maybe he was a reach, but I'm confident he'll be a starter and better than any of the backups on the roster.
Remember all the crap talked about the Cowboy's pick of Martin last year? Just hope it works out. I think it will.
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The talking heads at the draft just like to hear themselves talk,I don't put any stock in what they're saying,they're not privy to all the information teams have about these kids and the internal discussions taking place. Kiper said 20 of the 32 first round picks were a "reach",really?! In one breath Dilfer said the Flowers pick was a reach and he DIDN'T like it and before he finished talking he said he LOVED the pick,really?! It's all a crapshoot,we'll see in 3 years how good or bad all these picks were.
netnalp
Footballguy
Ereck Flowers Scouting Report
By Charlie Campbell
Strengths:
By Charlie Campbell
Strengths:
- Powerful run-blocker
- Heavy hands
- Excellent ability to sustain blocks
- Able to kick slide on the edge
- Can handle speed rushers
- Anchors well against the bull rush
- Stonewalls bull rushes
- Can bully defensive linemen
- Constantly pushes defenders out of their gap
- Powerful drive blocker
- Quick to the second level
- Can get out and lead a run downfield
- Intelligent
- Good hand placement
- Asset in short yardage
- Ready to start immediately
- Good at adjusting to blitz pick up
- High floor
- Only 20 years old with huge upside
- Long arms (34 1/2 inches)
- Works hard in the weight room
- Mean streak
- Scheme versatile
- Durable
- May not end up a left tackle
- Not a natural bender
- Can get too wide with his arms
- Should improve overall technique; a little raw
- Summary: The 2015 draft class features a strong group of offensive line prospects, and Flowers is in the running to be the first tackle selected. He played left tackle at Miami, but most are projecting him to move to right tackle in the NFL.Flowers was excellent for Miami over the past few seasons. As a sophomore, he took the left tackle job from Seantrel Henderson and put the former No. 1 recruit on the right side. Flowers went on to be a force for the Hurricanes in 2014 despite having minor surgery on his knee during the season.
Throughout 2014, the junior was a powerful run-blocker for Duke Johnson. Flowers is extremely powerful and consistently pushes defensive linemen out of their gap. He can maul linebackers and push them around the field. Flowers also is quick to fire to the second level and hit blocks, pull or lead blocks downfield. His raw power with long arms is extremely impressive, and he sustains his blocks through the whistle with a bullying attitude. Flowers' power was on display at the Combine as he had the highest total on the bench press despite having long arms.
Flowers was also very reliable in pass protection for Miami and was an asset as the blind-side protector for Brad Kaaya. That was apparent against Nebraska when Flowers won the vast majority of his plays against Randy Gregory. Gregory beat him on a couple of plays, but overall, Flowers got the better of the matchup. Flowers also played well against Virginia in late November despite a couple of bad plays against edge rusher Eli Harold. Overall though, Flowers was impressive when going against the best competition he saw all season.
As a pass-blocker, Flowers is quick enough in his quick slide to negate speed rushers and is strong enough to hold his ground with bull rushers. His agility and impressive length make it harder for rushers to get around him. He could use more work on his technique as his arms can get too wide.
Flowers could end up as one of the top right tackles in the NFL. Moving to the right side would hide that he isn't quite a natural bender. However, Flowers is only 20 years old and has a ton of upside. He could develop into a starting left tackle and would be one of the most powerful left tackles in the league.
In the 2015 NFL Draft, Flowers is worthy of being selected in the top 20. Multiple teams have indicated to WalterFootball.com that they have a first-round grade on Flowers. He should hear his name called on Thursday night.
Read more at http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2015eflowers.php#VOeILQQ1kuwyP7ro.99
netnalp
Footballguy
True. And it think Flowers was rising up teams boards as they got closer to the draft and the commentators are going with opinions formed months ago.
He also beat out Seantrel Henderson for the LT spot at the U. Seantrel Henderson was a 7th round pick due to off the field issues and played really well for the Bills.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/13/seantrel-henderson-leads-all-players-in-performance-based-pay/
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RC94
Footballguy
RC94
Footballguy
I would be very happy if Collins is available. I don't want Gregory. Unlike with Flowers, I am not confident that Gregory's issues are coachable.
Khy
Footballguy
I disagree, you put enough of a support group around any player and they can come together well. Look at the "troubled" players who have come into this league with questions and succeeded and the ones who failed. The ones who fail, your Josh Gordon's, Johnny Manziel's, Jamarcus Russell's of the world are drafted by terrible organizations with no stability in their infrastrucre. How can a player feel confident in himself and want to play for his team when every year himself, his coaches and his general manager are on thin ice.
Look at the other guys like Dez who went to a good organization with stability in it's ranks and panned out fine.
In my opinion that's all that matters, the Giants are a good organization, arguably one of the best when it comes to this stuff. I think with JPP, Beason, Coughlin, Eli, Beckham, Cruz etc. all really high character guys on this team that Gregory would have constant motivation to play better for his team. The Giants aren't like the Browns where you hear guys like Joe Thomas and Joe Haden come out talking about how Johnny is a train wreck. Please, if one of Coughlin's players did that he'd have their balls in a jar of pickle juice in his office.
If the Giants get Gregory I'll be so happy I'll shed real tears for the first time in years. Because I think from a talent perspective he is far and away the best defensive lineman in this draft. If he can be helped with his character concerns, he can become a multiple All-Pro talent. Collins on the other hand is a decent run stopping safety. I personally thought Randall was a better prospect but he went off the board last night.
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netnalp
Footballguy
Will Hill is the pin to burst your bubble.
Granted each individual is different. Some choose to get their act together some don't. Will Hill was given great opportunities with the Giants and he really showed a lack of appreciation towards the Giants by continuing to fail drug tests. He seems to have stayed clean the past year with the Ravens. But I think it's only a matter of time till he fails another pee test.
Khy
Footballguy
Koya
Footballguy
Life has been damn busy, so I dont profess to know that much about Flowers, but it seems like he is a great powerful run blocker, at the least. And at the Tackle position.
Most gifted (aka Tremendous Upside) in the draft.
How many times have we not gotten that yard? That push on the oline?
If Flowers can, with all his physical skills, become just an adequate pass blocker, the run game is boosted hugely while setting up much better play action opportunities to get ODB time for separation AND there will be that split second more for pure passing at times because the run should be more effective.
Thats the floor, apparently. You can't train natural ability and he has it in droves. Let's hope he can learn and evolve.
What is the character side? He a good guy, hard worker, good teammate? Thx
Most gifted (aka Tremendous Upside) in the draft.
How many times have we not gotten that yard? That push on the oline?
If Flowers can, with all his physical skills, become just an adequate pass blocker, the run game is boosted hugely while setting up much better play action opportunities to get ODB time for separation AND there will be that split second more for pure passing at times because the run should be more effective.
Thats the floor, apparently. You can't train natural ability and he has it in droves. Let's hope he can learn and evolve.
What is the character side? He a good guy, hard worker, good teammate? Thx
netnalp
Footballguy
I've read he's a workout warrior. Very quiet. Instead of going out, he'd be getting in a second workout. High motor.
Khy
Footballguy
He didn't but I like the pick of Owamagbe Odighizuwa. Should've been a late first-early 2nd round pick. He's a beast at run stopping for a DE. I can see the Giants acutally sloting him into DT in the middle on a lot of snaps. In Spags old 3 or 4 DE DLine sets he used to run so much.
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Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Very happy so far.
Khy
Footballguy
Yeah, I initially was upset about the Flowers pick because I felt like he was a huge reach there. But they've more than made up for it by somehow having two first round talents at huge need positions fall right into their laps in the 2nd and 3rd round. It's a little upsetting that they had to forfeit their 4th round pick to go up and get Collins but I think it was likely worth it. I doubt they made their pick at 9 thinking he'd be available at the top of the 2nd round.
Yenrub
Footballguy
Koya
Footballguy
That's encouraging. To see this and intelligence as a strength, coupled with his really young age has to get you a bit juiced. Wouldn't it seem well within reason that, with the coaching staff we have, he becomes at least decent in protection? And we know he can mash in the run game... which sets up the vertical pass.
Really like the pick. If it works Ill be fifty and he will be in his prime (42 now).
netnalp
Footballguy
What I'm reading is he was originally a QB. Made leaps his senior year when Coach Strong took over the DBs. Had a great pro day. Really fast. Blurbs about his ability remind me of Will Hill minus the off the field issues.
My guess is the Giants feel they found in him a gem in the rough and it only takes one other team to think the same for them not to get him. Or if they did draft what should have been a FA in the 5th, so be it. They've had better luck recently with UFA types than they have with mid-late round draft pics anyway!
Are you kidding me ? There are a at least 5-10 unsigned FA's that would help more then this guy will.
Best case you see this guy on the field in 2 years
Giant Draft Grades
http://www.bigblueview.com/2015-nfl-draft/2015/5/3/8536829/2015-nfl-draft-grades-ny-giants-mel-kiper-espn-dan-kadar-poll
The consensus seems to be:
1st Rd - OK pick ... a reach but fills a need: B
2nd Rd - Best pick: A
3rd - Good to very good pick: B+
4th Rd - No Pick Traded
5th - 7th - Terrible!!!: F, F, D
http://www.bigblueview.com/2015-nfl-draft/2015/5/3/8536829/2015-nfl-draft-grades-ny-giants-mel-kiper-espn-dan-kadar-poll
The consensus seems to be:
1st Rd - OK pick ... a reach but fills a need: B
2nd Rd - Best pick: A
3rd - Good to very good pick: B+
4th Rd - No Pick Traded
5th - 7th - Terrible!!!: F, F, D
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
pats took their wtf safety in the second --- you guys are crying about a 5th?
Yenrub
Footballguy
Yenrub
Footballguy
Giants in the mix for La'el Collins
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2015/05/giants_in_the_mix_for_lael_collins_after_he_goes_u.html
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2015/05/giants_in_the_mix_for_lael_collins_after_he_goes_u.html
netnalp
Footballguy
Player has all the control in this situation. The money will pretty much be the same from every team. It's going to be where he has a chance to start that will be the deciding variable. That's where he can make some of the bonus money UDFA get based on playing time.Step away....slowly...do not go there
There are other teams where he'd be a sure bet to start. Best the Giants can offer is to compete with Flowers and Pugh for a starting spot. I'd like Collins but it'd be a shock if he went with the Giants since there are situations elsewhere that make for better opportunity.
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Way to good to be true ... That is the missing link to what would be an awesome line for the next 8-10 years
RT - Flowers (1st)
RG - Pugh (1st)
C - Richburg (2nd)
LG - Shwartz (For the next couple of years)
LT - Collins (essentially 1st)
netnalp
Footballguy
http://www.bigblueview.com/2015/5/8/8572937/new-york-giants-rookie-mini-camp-report-day-1-ereck-flower-landon-collins-owa-odighizuwa
The very first thing I noticed was that during the initial defensive drill second-round pick Landon Collins. in his first practice, was helping second-year player Bennett Jackson get lined up properly.
It was admittedly only one workout against a majority of players who will never play a down in the NFL, but Coughlin said he saw enough to believe Collins can be much more than a box safety, an impression which is part of the reason Collins fell to the Giants at No. 33.
"What I saw today went back to what I really do believe, and that is that he can play in the middle of the field, he can play in the deep half, he can do those things as well as come down and be a physical force in the tackle box," Coughlin said.
The very first thing I noticed was that during the initial defensive drill second-round pick Landon Collins. in his first practice, was helping second-year player Bennett Jackson get lined up properly.
It was admittedly only one workout against a majority of players who will never play a down in the NFL, but Coughlin said he saw enough to believe Collins can be much more than a box safety, an impression which is part of the reason Collins fell to the Giants at No. 33.
"What I saw today went back to what I really do believe, and that is that he can play in the middle of the field, he can play in the deep half, he can do those things as well as come down and be a physical force in the tackle box," Coughlin said.
- Third-round pick Owamagbe Odighizuwa is really quick off the snap. Either that or offensive tackle Sean Donnelly, one of the undrafted free agent signees, is really slow. On three successive plays during an abbreviated 11-on-11 stretch Odighizuwa had the corner before the seemingly slow-footed 6-foot-8 Donnelly was out of his stance.
- CFL center Brett Jones, who signed a three-year contract, was getting an earful from offensive line coach Pat Flaherty about dropping his hands between punches in a blocking sled drill.
- First-round pick Ereck Flowers is a monstrously large person who moves very well for a 329-pounder. Coughlin believes Flowers will do well in pass protection. "He's a big man. You're going to have to navigate a lot to get around him," Coughlin said. Read absolutely nothing into this, but Flowers spent his first practice lined up at left tackle.
- Wide receiver Geremy Davis, drafted in the sixth round, was being used as a gunner during punt drills.
- Matt LaCosse, a tight end from Illinois who was one of the six UDFAs to sign contracts, is a player to remember. He looks like a guy who can catch the ball well, might be able to stretch defenses while lined up in the slot and, while you can't judge blocking in shorts and t-shirts, showed a willingness to do that.
