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***2015 San Diego Chargers - Offseason News, Notes, & Analysis*** (2 Viewers)
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BoltBacker
Footballguy
I won't believe it until there was actually substantial to base it on. Here are the best sources I can gather:These Rivers to Titans rumors seem to be picking up. Some mocks have now started showing us making the trade and grabbing Mariota.
- Rivers says he likes SD and isn't sure he would want to uproot his family and move to LA, and wants to play out his contract. I have no idea why this would be news. This is what I would expect him to say.
- TEN wants to add a qb.... Didn't they just lose Locker who was the opening day starter last year? Of course they want to add a qb even if they like Mett.
It just sounds like a bunch of sports writers using each others rumor as a source for their rumor if you ask me.
I wouldn't trade Rivers straight up and I only think he has 2-3 years left in the tank. Now if they would have used that first rounder on Bridgewater last year however....
cstu
Footballguy
There's more to this than Rivers is saying, IMO. It's a complete joke that he doesn't want to uproot his family when his games would only be 2 hours down the road. He's not saying what he's really thinking which is that he no longer wants to play for the Chargers.I won't believe it until there was actually substantial to base it on. Here are the best sources I can gather:These Rivers to Titans rumors seem to be picking up. Some mocks have now started showing us making the trade and grabbing Mariota.
- Rivers says he likes SD and isn't sure he would want to uproot his family and move to LA, and wants to play out his contract. I have no idea why this would be news. This is what I would expect him to say.
- TEN wants to add a qb.... Didn't they just lose Locker who was the opening day starter last year? Of course they want to add a qb even if they like Mett.
It just sounds like a bunch of sports writers using each others rumor as a source for their rumor if you ask me.
I wouldn't trade Rivers straight up and I only think he has 2-3 years left in the tank. Now if they would have used that first rounder on Bridgewater last year however....
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
If they trade rivers for mariota im gonna puke
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Send him to ####### Cleveland then, or the Jets. Does he have some sort of no trade clause?
Tau837
Footballguy
Completely disagree. He doesn't want to raise his family in LA. He is a family man and isn't going to leave his family, including 7 kids, in SD while he has to live in LA most of the time. The fact that they would be 2 hours away doesn't really matter... Either they would be uprooted or they would be apart. Moreover, he hasn't said he won't play in LA. He has said he would prefer not to. He happens to be in position where his contract situation enables him to consider alternatives if the team does announce a move. What's wrong with that? You're ready to throw him under the bus based on that?There's more to this than Rivers is saying, IMO. It's a complete joke that he doesn't want to uproot his family when his games would only be 2 hours down the road. He's not saying what he's really thinking which is that he no longer wants to play for the Chargers.I won't believe it until there was actually substantial to base it on. Here are the best sources I can gather:- Rivers says he likes SD and isn't sure he would want to uproot his family and move to LA, and wants to play out his contract. I have no idea why this would be news. This is what I would expect him to say.These Rivers to Titans rumors seem to be picking up. Some mocks have now started showing us making the trade and grabbing Mariota.
- TEN wants to add a qb.... Didn't they just lose Locker who was the opening day starter last year? Of course they want to add a qb even if they like Mett.
It just sounds like a bunch of sports writers using each others rumor as a source for their rumor if you ask me.
I wouldn't trade Rivers straight up and I only think he has 2-3 years left in the tank. Now if they would have used that first rounder on Bridgewater last year however....
There is zero evidence that he has any ulterior motive, much less that he no longer wants to play for the Chargers.
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Tau837
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Homer behavior jwb. Ur a rivers fan not really a bolt fan. I dont gwt the whole rivers wants out angel. I dont think he does.
cstu
Footballguy
How does this sound like he wants to be a Charger:Completely disagree. He doesn't want to raise his family in LA. He is a family man and isn't going to leave his family, including 7 kids, in SD while he has to live in LA most of the time. The fact that they would be 2 hours away doesn't really matter... Either they would be uprooted or they would be apart.Moreover, he hasn't said he won't play in LA. He has said he would prefer not to. He happens to be in position where his contract situation enables him to consider alternatives if the team does announce a move. What's wrong with that? You're ready to throw him under the bus based on that?There's more to this than Rivers is saying, IMO. It's a complete joke that he doesn't want to uproot his family when his games would only be 2 hours down the road. He's not saying what he's really thinking which is that he no longer wants to play for the Chargers.I won't believe it until there was actually substantial to base it on. Here are the best sources I can gather:- Rivers says he likes SD and isn't sure he would want to uproot his family and move to LA, and wants to play out his contract. I have no idea why this would be news. This is what I would expect him to say.These Rivers to Titans rumors seem to be picking up. Some mocks have now started showing us making the trade and grabbing Mariota.
- TEN wants to add a qb.... Didn't they just lose Locker who was the opening day starter last year? Of course they want to add a qb even if they like Mett.
It just sounds like a bunch of sports writers using each others rumor as a source for their rumor if you ask me.
I wouldn't trade Rivers straight up and I only think he has 2-3 years left in the tank. Now if they would have used that first rounder on Bridgewater last year however....
There is zero evidence that he has any ulterior motive, much less that he no longer wants to play for the Chargers.
If his family loves SD so much why would they not want to stay there and have him commute to LA? Also would it kill them to move a little closer, say Newport Beach?
I'll root for the Chargers if he stays, but good riddance if they get rid of him.
Tau837
Footballguy
That quote simply shows him keeping his options open. It changes nothing about what I posted.cstu said:How does this sound like he wants to be a Charger:Just Win Baby said:Completely disagree. He doesn't want to raise his family in LA. He is a family man and isn't going to leave his family, including 7 kids, in SD while he has to live in LA most of the time. The fact that they would be 2 hours away doesn't really matter... Either they would be uprooted or they would be apart.Moreover, he hasn't said he won't play in LA. He has said he would prefer not to. He happens to be in position where his contract situation enables him to consider alternatives if the team does announce a move. What's wrong with that? You're ready to throw him under the bus based on that?cstu said:There's more to this than Rivers is saying, IMO. It's a complete joke that he doesn't want to uproot his family when his games would only be 2 hours down the road. He's not saying what he's really thinking which is that he no longer wants to play for the Chargers.BoltBacker said:I won't believe it until there was actually substantial to base it on. Here are the best sources I can gather:- Rivers says he likes SD and isn't sure he would want to uproot his family and move to LA, and wants to play out his contract. I have no idea why this would be news. This is what I would expect him to say.Bucky86 said:These Rivers to Titans rumors seem to be picking up. Some mocks have now started showing us making the trade and grabbing Mariota.
- TEN wants to add a qb.... Didn't they just lose Locker who was the opening day starter last year? Of course they want to add a qb even if they like Mett.
It just sounds like a bunch of sports writers using each others rumor as a source for their rumor if you ask me.
I wouldn't trade Rivers straight up and I only think he has 2-3 years left in the tank. Now if they would have used that first rounder on Bridgewater last year however....
There is zero evidence that he has any ulterior motive, much less that he no longer wants to play for the Chargers.
If his family loves SD so much why would they not want to stay there and have him commute to LA? Also would it kill them to move a little closer, say Newport Beach?
I'll root for the Chargers if he stays, but good riddance if they get rid of him.
And
at the idea of him "commuting" to LA in season.I'm surprised at this overreaction to his comments by so many fans. A lot of you are going to be sorry when you get what you are wishing for and have to deal with another starting QB.
cstu
Footballguy
Here, I found him the perfect home for his family in Newport Beach, an hour away from Inglewood and San Diego.That quote simply shows him keeping his options open. It changes nothing about what I posted.
And
I'm surprised at this overreaction to his comments by so many fans. A lot of you are going to be sorry when you get what you are wishing for and have to deal with another starting QB.
But he would rather play somewhere on the other side of the country than move there.
Tau837
Footballguy
The guy has 7 kids. I assume he has them in schools they are happy in, they probably have a church they like, etc. I suspect he doesn't want to move them away, even if only an hour away. As I have stated before, he hasn't said he won't do it if the team moves to L.A. He has simply said he doesn't want to do it. If the team moves and he is franchised, he'll have to decide if he wants to keep playing or is ready to retire. If he wants to play, I expect he will move the family. If he isn't franchised and he still wants to play, that opens up other possibilities that he might prefer to L.A. But that scenario seems pretty unlikely, because that would mean the team would be letting him walk for nothing, presumably leaving them without a quality starter.Here, I found him the perfect home for his family in Newport Beach, an hour away from Inglewood and San Diego.That quote simply shows him keeping his options open. It changes nothing about what I posted.
And
I'm surprised at this overreaction to his comments by so many fans. A lot of you are going to be sorry when you get what you are wishing for and have to deal with another starting QB.
But he would rather play somewhere on the other side of the country than move there.
The bottom line is that you said he has an ulterior motive which is that he no longer wants to play for the Chargers, but there is no evidence to support that. For example, if that were true, he could try to force a trade, but there is no indication that he has done that.
Is it really so hard to understand that he is a guy who puts family first? That is nothing to vilify him for.
As for commuting from Newport Beach to L.A., how often do you think that drive would take just an hour? Google Maps shows that drive would take 1.5-2 hours each way during early morning and evening. You think he's going to make that drive daily? You think that isn't going to take away either from his football preparation or his time with his family or both?
You are making something out of nothing.
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BoltNlava
Footballguy
You're forgetting the supposed Bullet Train we already should have had...lolThe guy has 7 kids. I assume he has them in schools they are happy in, they probably have a church they like, etc. I suspect he doesn't want to move them away, even if only an hour away. As I have stated before, he hasn't said he won't do it if the team moves to L.A. He has simply said he doesn't want to do it. If the team moves and he is franchised, he'll have to decide if he wants to keep playing or is ready to retire. If he wants to play, I expect he will move the family. If he isn't franchised and he still wants to play, that opens up other possibilities that he might prefer to L.A. But that scenario seems pretty unlikely, because that would mean the team would be letting him walk for nothing, presumably leaving them without a quality starter.Here, I found him the perfect home for his family in Newport Beach, an hour away from Inglewood and San Diego.That quote simply shows him keeping his options open. It changes nothing about what I posted.
And
I'm surprised at this overreaction to his comments by so many fans. A lot of you are going to be sorry when you get what you are wishing for and have to deal with another starting QB.
But he would rather play somewhere on the other side of the country than move there.
The bottom line is that you said he has an ulterior motive which is that he no longer wants to play for the Chargers, but there is no evidence to support that. For example, if that were true, he could try to force a trade, but there is no indication that he has done that.
Is it really so hard to understand that he is a guy who puts family first? That is nothing to vilify him for.
As for commuting from Newport Beach to L.A., how often do you think that drive would take just an hour? Google Maps shows that drive would take 1.5-2 hours each way during early morning and evening. You think he's going to make that drive daily? You think that isn't going to take away either from his football preparation or his time with his family or both?
You are making something out of nothing.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
If he really doesn't want to play for the Chargers, and the team is certain that is the case, they should trade him now and get the greatest return they can out of it. I am not saying that is certain, just what I'd like them to do if it was.
B Maverick
Footballguy
So by Rivers saying all this noone thinks maybe he is just trying to maintain leverage and get more $$ to pay for his 7 kids?
And personally I would rather live and play in SD then LA. But then again I am just some nobody born in SD living in the OC.
And no, Newport to LA would be well over an hour and a half, even after a MNF game
*****
on a different note, getting really unhappy when every mock seems to have SD taking a RB in rd 1. And now there is a debate whether gurley or gordon is a better fit and that SD's biggest need is RB since they lost Mathews.
And personally I would rather live and play in SD then LA. But then again I am just some nobody born in SD living in the OC.
And no, Newport to LA would be well over an hour and a half, even after a MNF game
*****
on a different note, getting really unhappy when every mock seems to have SD taking a RB in rd 1. And now there is a debate whether gurley or gordon is a better fit and that SD's biggest need is RB since they lost Mathews.
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Gr00vus
Footballguy
Marshawn Lynch. This year.
The trick is, he didn't play for the team that originally drafted him.
cstu
Footballguy
Every mock drafter thinks they know what the team needs more than the actual fans. SMH.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Exactly.Marshawn Lynch. This year.
The trick is, he didn't play for the team that originally drafted him.
SEA gave up a 4th rounder and a conditional pick(5th rounder) to acquire Lynch.
I would love to see SD trade down. Maybe a trade with TB that included Martin(RB) and maybe even Glennon(QB). Lovie talks a big game about valuing both those players but his actions say something completely different.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I completely agree with you, and my first reaction was pointing out the fact all these comments came within 24-hours of Big Ben signing a HUGE ridiculous deal. But keep in mind he's won multiple SB's as well so maybe he's earned more $.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I don't think they should consider trading him, but I thought you were an analytics guy and you posted a link earlier in this thread as if "failed completion" was an important analytic....
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2015/failed-completions-2014
According to that anaylytic isn't Rivers the #15 QB? I'm NOT a big analytic guy and this certainly isn't my link but I would have thought it would have meant something to you.
Bucky86
Footballguy
I guess I should've added for their original team.Marshawn Lynch. This year.
The trick is, he didn't play for the team that originally drafted him.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
That was planned a long time ago.Chargers are dining with Mariota tonight in Oregon.
Lots of smoke.
I think it's smart to at least give the allusion that they are interested in Mariota in case they end up trading the #17 pick. Some scouts (I think one is Jeremiah) swear that there is NO WAY Mariota goes in the top 10 picks.
I was shocked when Bridgewater was available even later last year. After the first round I said they should have made the MIN trade SEA did, or simply take Bridgewater last year and hold him. Look around the NFL. If they would have had Bridgewater on the roster does anyone think BUF, CLE, HOU, MIN, STL, would have given up quite a bit for Bridgewater?
If both Shelton/Scherff are off the board at #17 and they can't trade down I would have no problem with SD drafting Mariota and keeping Rivers.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Hoefully alot of them if they use a first on one.
However it seems like they are kicking the tires on mariota and sd probably wont have a first to spend on anything but him.
Hate this team sometimes
Tau837
Footballguy
Do you mean because you would then expect them to trade Mariotta, or are you saying you would be fine with them drafting and keeping him on the roster with Rivers?
The latter would be one of the dumbest moves possible. A first round pick for a team as needy as the Chargers has to yield a first year starter, and Mariotta wouldn't be that. (For that matter, he might not be a second or third year starter.) Spending their first round pick on a bench player makes it more likely the Chargers won't improve this year. What's more, Mariotta's strengths are for a different type of offense than the one the Chargers run with Rivers. Terrible idea.
Tau837
Footballguy
I was thinking about this some more. The Chargers only have 4 players remaining on their roster that they drafted prior to the 2011 draft:
Weddle (2nd round, 2007)
Butler (3rd round, 2010)
Stuckey (4th round, 2010)
Scifres (5th round, 2003)
Obviously, Weddle has been great, but Butler's poor play the past two years has virtually offset Weddle's great play. Scifres has been very good, but... he's the punter. And Stuckey is just a guy.
Is this the norm, or is one reason it seems the Chargers have such a talent deficit because they drafted so poorly from 2007 to 2010 and have so little to show for it today?
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Rivers doesn't want to uproot his family to LA but somehow Nashville will make it easy for his family to stay on SD?
Tau837
Footballguy
I think the idea is that if he has to uproot his family, there are places he would prefer to move them over L.A. Tennessee is the closest NFL team to where he was raised in Alabama.
Tau837
Footballguy
I previously posted that Crabtree was among the worst WRs at failed completions (5th most, 7th worst rate). But I posted it as an additional data point, having also posted other reasons why I felt Crabtree was not a good choice for San Diego to sign.
In Rivers' case, his failed completion rate is within 1.1% of Peyton, Brees, and Brady, so I don't think it indicates much. And other metrics for Rivers are positive, unlike Crabtree.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I think their poor success rate with their draft picks is a big reason they haven't been able to get over the top. Compare what they've done to what Pittsburgh has done over the same time frame.
Tau837
Footballguy
I don't get why the Titans would do this. I understand that Rivers is a huge upgrade and has worked successfully with Whisenhunt. But it doesn't seem like this trade would make them contenders. Aren't they one of the least talented teams in the league? Could they become contenders while Rivers still has something left? If not, why do it?
I understand it more from the Chargers' perspective if they assume either (a) Rivers won't resign if the team moves, and it is likely the team will move, or (b) they cannot rebuild the team into a contender within Rivers' remaining window of effectiveness, or both. Although it seems that Telesco would have to assume that his job (and McCoy's?) will be secure if the team goes through a couple of losing seasons after a trade.
How would other fans feel about the team making this deal and, say, having losing records the next two seasons?
I understand it more from the Chargers' perspective if they assume either (a) Rivers won't resign if the team moves, and it is likely the team will move, or (b) they cannot rebuild the team into a contender within Rivers' remaining window of effectiveness, or both. Although it seems that Telesco would have to assume that his job (and McCoy's?) will be secure if the team goes through a couple of losing seasons after a trade.
How would other fans feel about the team making this deal and, say, having losing records the next two seasons?
Tau837
Footballguy
IMO the primary reason for their record over that specific time period is that it correlates to Brees's two good seasons in San Diego followed by Rivers' run as their starting QB. The fact that they have not had more success with that 11 year run of QB play actually suggests that the team really didn't do a good job of surrounding the QB with sufficient talent/coaching.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
QB is everything, either you have one, or you are looking for one. Jobs are on the line even for re-building teams, they need to win and win soon. QB gets you that.
Not sure what is going on but losing rivers and a first for freakin mariota would not make me happy at all.
Moving is just icing on the cake too.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Well the butler and early AJ years they added an immense amount of talent. crazy to think at one time this team had tomlinson, turner, sproles, brees and rivers, gates, vjax.
The biggest blunder of all was bringing in Norv turner, guys a loser. poor drafting since then hasnt helped. I firmly put the blame on AJ Smith
B Maverick
Footballguy
I agree. Bringing in Norv was the biggest issue followed by the lack of ability to retain its talent. Drafting poorly and poor FA signings accentuated that fact by not bringing in suitable replacements for those they let leave.
massraider
Footballguy
Wow
Tom Telesco and Mike McCoy keep saying they want Philip Rivers to retire as a San Diego Charger.
That may well happen, even if Rivers follows through on his stated intention to play out the final year of his current contract and even if he doesn’t sign another contract with the team after this season.
The ominous reality for the Chargers is that there is no telling what happens with their franchise quarterback.
Despite some inside Chargers Park pressing the narrative that the Los Angeles factor is overblown, the team knows it is not.
There are numerous people in the organization dreading a move to L.A. as much as Rivers is. Everyone knows it is possible – some even believe likely – the team will move in 2016 or ’17.
The only real control the Chargers have with their quarterback is now, this offseason.
So – and this is difficult to think, let alone write – they need to trade Rivers.
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If Monday night’s dinner and Tuesday’s workout in Eugene, Ore., are everything the Chargers expect, and they see in former Oregon star Marcus Mariota a possible franchise quarterback, they should do what they can to trade up and draft him.
The Chargers should get the No.2 pick from the Tennessee Titans, select Mariota, then take a running back with the No.17 pick. Start over in a big way.
Yes, the Chargers in all likelihood would keep their first round pick should they deal Rivers to Tennessee. They may, according to some around the league, have to throw in a selection in a later round. But people are really just speculating, since there is no precedent for trading a quarterback of Rivers’ stature at this juncture in his career for a draft pick(s).
It can, however, be done. It should be.
There is no way I thought I’d write this. Ever.
My fondness for Rivers the person and the player is well known. I wrote in my first column three years ago that I planned to cover every game of his career. We partnered last season on a campaign that raised $112,000 for the Ronald McDonald House. I don’t need a full hand to count the number of professional athletes I’ve known with his quality of character.
The above is pointed out for the purpose of demonstrating how serious this is. I generally don’t play around, and never when it comes to Rivers.
This is not for effect. This is best for all involved.
If Mariota has the potential to be an elite NFL quarterback – and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are reportedly considering making him the No.1 pick over Florida State’s Jameis Winston – then moving on is the best route for the Chargers. (They have not traveled to see Winston; Mariota is their sole focus.)
They should get the QB they think is their next leader before they’re forced to find one who might not be.
Because that day could be coming.
Can we say for sure that Rivers won’t play in L.A.? Not any more than we can say it won’t snow in Carson or Inglewood next Christmas.
So, yeah, take from that what you will.
It’s only prudent that the Chargers are exploring options. To rely on extending/re-signing Rivers or placing the franchise tag on him next year would not just be stubborn, it would be foolish.
Rivers, 33, has four or five seasons left in him. He’ll play as long as he’s making plays. But he also has seven children and plans for a life beyond football.
The Chargers know this: If they’re in Los Angeles, there is a good chance Rivers will be in Nashville.
Whether that means playing for the Titans or coaching high school football (while living near his in-laws and 90 minutes from his childhood home) depends on what other moves the Chargers make between now and then.
Tom Telesco and Mike McCoy keep saying they want Philip Rivers to retire as a San Diego Charger.
That may well happen, even if Rivers follows through on his stated intention to play out the final year of his current contract and even if he doesn’t sign another contract with the team after this season.
The ominous reality for the Chargers is that there is no telling what happens with their franchise quarterback.
Despite some inside Chargers Park pressing the narrative that the Los Angeles factor is overblown, the team knows it is not.
There are numerous people in the organization dreading a move to L.A. as much as Rivers is. Everyone knows it is possible – some even believe likely – the team will move in 2016 or ’17.
The only real control the Chargers have with their quarterback is now, this offseason.
So – and this is difficult to think, let alone write – they need to trade Rivers.
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If Monday night’s dinner and Tuesday’s workout in Eugene, Ore., are everything the Chargers expect, and they see in former Oregon star Marcus Mariota a possible franchise quarterback, they should do what they can to trade up and draft him.
The Chargers should get the No.2 pick from the Tennessee Titans, select Mariota, then take a running back with the No.17 pick. Start over in a big way.
Yes, the Chargers in all likelihood would keep their first round pick should they deal Rivers to Tennessee. They may, according to some around the league, have to throw in a selection in a later round. But people are really just speculating, since there is no precedent for trading a quarterback of Rivers’ stature at this juncture in his career for a draft pick(s).
It can, however, be done. It should be.
There is no way I thought I’d write this. Ever.
My fondness for Rivers the person and the player is well known. I wrote in my first column three years ago that I planned to cover every game of his career. We partnered last season on a campaign that raised $112,000 for the Ronald McDonald House. I don’t need a full hand to count the number of professional athletes I’ve known with his quality of character.
The above is pointed out for the purpose of demonstrating how serious this is. I generally don’t play around, and never when it comes to Rivers.
This is not for effect. This is best for all involved.
If Mariota has the potential to be an elite NFL quarterback – and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are reportedly considering making him the No.1 pick over Florida State’s Jameis Winston – then moving on is the best route for the Chargers. (They have not traveled to see Winston; Mariota is their sole focus.)
They should get the QB they think is their next leader before they’re forced to find one who might not be.
Because that day could be coming.
Can we say for sure that Rivers won’t play in L.A.? Not any more than we can say it won’t snow in Carson or Inglewood next Christmas.
So, yeah, take from that what you will.
It’s only prudent that the Chargers are exploring options. To rely on extending/re-signing Rivers or placing the franchise tag on him next year would not just be stubborn, it would be foolish.
Rivers, 33, has four or five seasons left in him. He’ll play as long as he’s making plays. But he also has seven children and plans for a life beyond football.
The Chargers know this: If they’re in Los Angeles, there is a good chance Rivers will be in Nashville.
Whether that means playing for the Titans or coaching high school football (while living near his in-laws and 90 minutes from his childhood home) depends on what other moves the Chargers make between now and then.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I assume you mean Charger fans, as if the Titans made that deal, I'd be really upset if they had losing records after acquiring Rivers if I was a Titan fan.Just Win Baby said:
As I said up thread, if they do the right thing with the picks, I'm all for it if it's apparent Rivers doesn't want to be with the Chargers long term. If they draft Mariotta I think we're probably looking at more than 2 years of losing record - especially if they double down on the bad decision making by taking a RB with their next pick.
This is a critical point for this current set of Charger management. They screw this up, I imagine they're looking for new jobs within 3 years.
Tau837
Footballguy
Yes, I meant Chargers fans.
I agree this is a critical point for Charger management. They are on the verge of doing the wrong thing (trading Rivers) and setting back the franchise for years.
B Maverick
Footballguy
so now its Rivers for the #2 and SD would have to add? WHO would trade Rivers for Mariota straight up or even have to add a pick to get him? Maybe its the FF player in me but none of that makes sense.That article basically sums up the discussion we've already been having in here. Alsoat the Chargers have to take a RB at 17. Acee's really lost a few steps.
And not only do they want to trade Rivers for Mariota but then take a RB with their #17?
None of this makes sense for a team that can compete for the playoffs. And once you gt in, anything can happen.
Bucky86
Footballguy
Because they know they're moving and Rivers isn't re-signing. So, this season would pass and they'd maybe make the playoffs and we'd have the #24-28 pick next year? We'd have to give up a lot more next year to get into a position to draft a rookie.so now its Rivers for the #2 and SD would have to add? WHO would trade Rivers for Mariota straight up or even have to add a pick to get him? Maybe its the FF player in me but none of that makes sense.That article basically sums up the discussion we've already been having in here. Also
And not only do they want to trade Rivers for Mariota but then take a RB with their #17?
None of this makes sense for a team that can compete for the playoffs. And once you gt in, anything can happen.
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Does Acee really believe this to be true? Has he had a brain injury that's gone under-reported? I have felt he was a dope since he insisted Vincent Jackson has played his last game every few weeks..... and Vincent Jackson kept right on playing for SD for two more years.massraider said:
I realize he is all-in pushing this narrative but in the above quote is he just straight out lying, or is he simply so incompetent at his job he really doesn't understand what the franchise tag is? I can't possibly invest the time to actually find out what his explanation is but does he put forward some plan Rivers and his agent have to rework the collective bargaining agreement so that the franchise tag can't apply to Rivers at some point?
