2016 - Hillary Clinton vs Jeb Bush (1 Viewer)

[DocHolliday]

The GOP gains control of the white house in 2016 no matter who is running.

 

[Jewell]

or Elizabeth Warren.

GTFO . Seriously.

She's on a roll. Considering their history in this country it's nice to see a Native American woman in the Senate.

 

[Jewell]

The GOP gains control of the white house in 2016 no matter who is running.

Is it too early to place bets on this?

 

[oso diablo]

I don't think Hill runs. I also would be surprised if Jeb ran. I don't think Biden wins the nom. Too many good young Democrats to run. Also the GOP has some rising stars, no reason to run another Bush. This seems like a race for 4 years ago not 4 years from now.

what are some of the names on your watch/short list?

 

[texasheat]

Danny Almonte vs. Jessica McClure

 

[NCCommish]

I don't think Hill runs. I also would be surprised if Jeb ran. I don't think Biden wins the nom. Too many good young Democrats to run. Also the GOP has some rising stars, no reason to run another Bush. This seems like a race for 4 years ago not 4 years from now.

what are some of the names on your watch/short list?

Deval Patrick, John Hickenlooper, Kamala Harris, Kirsten Gillibrand, Martin O'Malley to name a few early folks.

 

[Eephus]

or Elizabeth Warren.

GTFO . Seriously.

If this happens, I have 8:15 EST on New Hampshire primary night in the HT meltdown pool.

 

[Eephus]

Danny Almonte vs. Jessica McClure

Almonte was discredited by the Little League World Series scandal

 

[cstu]

or Elizabeth Warren.

GTFO . Seriously.

If this happens, I have 8:15 EST on New Hampshire primary night in the HT meltdown pool.

I'm pretty liberal and I think she's a nutty flake. Nice lady and I like her ideas, but a bit in the way she talks.

 

[pollardsvision]

Jeb is unlikely, but 6 years ago, I would've bet anything that this fella named Barack Obama (didn't know his middle name then) had no shot of being President.

If the economy stinks in 2016 and the Dems pick a bad candidate, Jeb winning seems as likely as anything else. It's not like the GOP has a deep bench.

Heck, I thought the Bush name was ruined in 2004.

 

[NCCommish]

or Elizabeth Warren.

GTFO . Seriously.

If this happens, I have 8:15 EST on New Hampshire primary night in the HT meltdown pool.

I'm pretty liberal and I think she's a nutty flake. Nice lady and I like her ideas, but a bit in the way she talks.

I think she's great but she isn't ready to be president.

 

[Foosball God]

Jeb Bush

 

[Popinski]

Predictions for front runners in 2016:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/07/handicapping-the-2016-presidential-field/

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/top-10-republican-presidential-contenders-for-2016-20121106

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

NO

 

[Todd Andrews]

Chris Christie could have a trail of dead hookers in Costa Rica and still be elected president in 2016.

I dont know. I think he would be a very formidable GOP candidate, but the chatter at the GOP websites is incredibly negative towards him this morning. I think his chances may be gone now based on what I am reading today.

 

[Jobber]

I think there is zero chance Bush . I just don't see how a 3rd member of the Bush family could or should be in the WH

No chance a Bush wins the nomination. It'll be Christie.

 

[mr roboto]

Huntsman. Please.

 

[Apple Jack]

Chris Christie could have a trail of dead hookers in Costa Rica and still be elected president in 2016.

I dont know. I think he would be a very formidable GOP candidate, but the chatter at the GOP websites is incredibly negative towards him this morning. I think his chances may be gone now based on what I am reading today.

They blame him for the Romney loss. Well, him and the dark lord Satan. But they'll get on board when they're told to.I can't imagine how depressing a GOP website comments section must be.

 

[Trey]

Just take a look at the economic picture in this country in 2014. If it is much improved, Clinton won't be able to resist it. The nomination will be gifted to her. Pair her up with Castro. Pretty much a guaranteed winner.

If the economy is still in the tank, Clinton will pass because while she'd still get the domination, there would be Dem fatigue in the general.

 

[FootballDummy]

You could at least give Jon Stewart some props for giving you that idea.

I've been saying this was going to be the matchup for over 4 years now...

Literally watched re-run from earlier and there was a skit working this angle. Not a serious shot.I think both parties would be fools to run either of those out in 2016. The other party simple go to the we have already seen this act before, but Hillary will 69 and still a divisive figure and Jeb while probably more appealling than W will still be more Bush in relative short historical time.

For votes?

 

[cstu]

I used some of my Obama winnings to put $500 on Jeb Bush to win at +1000.

Edit: He's the early favorite among Florida Republicans and if Bush decides to run then Rubio will likely stay out.

 

[LHUCKS]

Voting for whichever convinces me they are the most serious about the debt.

Period.

 

[mad sweeney]

The GOP gains control of the white house in 2016 no matter who is running.

Take it to the bank! Worked this time.

 

[joffer]

Rubio needs to actually answer the question on whether he thinks the earth is 6000 years old

 

[SacramentoBob]

but Hillary will 69

Not sure how that will help her chances.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Washington Post article about Hillary's tenure as Secretary of State and what it suggests about her future.

I was squarely in the Obama camp in 2008, but I think I'm all aboard for Hillary in 2016. I would feel good about voting for her.

 

[dickey moe]

No more Bushes or Clintons please.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

No more Bushes or Clintons please.

Yeah, this is how I used to feel too but I think Hillary has won me over somehow.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

or Elizabeth Warren.

GTFO . Seriously.

She's on a roll. Considering their history in this country it's nice to see a Native American woman in the Senate.

 

[Novice2]

FFA full of a bunch of moochers wanting free stuff!

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Hillary crushing the Republican field in the first polling I've seen for 2016:

Hillary 45-37 Christie

Hillary 50-38 Ryan

Hillary 50-34 Rubio

Wire to wire win?

 

[17seconds]

Hillary crushing the Republican field in the first polling I've seen for 2016:Hillary 45-37 ChristieHillary 50-38 RyanHillary 50-34 RubioWire to wire win?

Ryan shot his wad less than a month after he was on the ticket. I can't believe that guy has a chance

 

[SacramentoBob]

Hillary crushing the Republican field in the first polling I've seen for 2016:Hillary 45-37 ChristieHillary 50-38 RyanHillary 50-34 RubioWire to wire win?

1 has national name recognition that the other 3 don't.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

As part of my ongoing efforts to prepare my 'good friends on the other side of the aisle' for the epic FDR-like beatdown that Hillary is going to lay on whichever sacrificial lamb the GOP trots out for 2016, I present another reminder.

This time, from Florida -- where Ms. Clinton kicks the living tar out of two in-state pretenders:

Mrs. Clinton, who shows the most strength of any potential 2016 aspirant in Quinnipiac University's national polls, leads Jeb Bush 51-40 percent and bests Sen. Rubio 52-41 percent in a poll of Sunshine State registered voters.

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and also has a 54/41 advantage over Paul Ryan. She leads the Republicans by margins of 17-24 points with independents.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

As part of my ongoing efforts to prepare my 'good friends on the other side of the aisle' for the epic FDR-like beatdown that Hillary is going to lay on whichever sacrificial lamb the GOP trots out for 2016, I present another reminder.

This time, from Florida -- where Ms. Clinton kicks the living tar out of two in-state pretenders:

Mrs. Clinton, who shows the most strength of any potential 2016 aspirant in Quinnipiac University's national polls, leads Jeb Bush 51-40 percent and bests Sen. Rubio 52-41 percent in a poll of Sunshine State registered voters.

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and also has a 54/41 advantage over Paul Ryan. She leads the Republicans by margins of 17-24 points with independents.

Did you watch the statement she put out a few days ago in support of gay marriage? It sorta reminded me of why I liked Obama a lot better than I liked her when they were fighting for the 2008 nomination. Hillary is great on paper and I'd definitely support her over any Republican but something about her speaking style is a bit off-putting. I don't think she would roll to a huge victory if the GOP managed to put up somebody charismatic. Admittedly, I can't think of who that charismatic Republican might be.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

As part of my ongoing efforts to prepare my 'good friends on the other side of the aisle' for the epic FDR-like beatdown that Hillary is going to lay on whichever sacrificial lamb the GOP trots out for 2016, I present another reminder.

This time, from Florida -- where Ms. Clinton kicks the living tar out of two in-state pretenders:

Mrs. Clinton, who shows the most strength of any potential 2016 aspirant in Quinnipiac University's national polls, leads Jeb Bush 51-40 percent and bests Sen. Rubio 52-41 percent in a poll of Sunshine State registered voters.

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and also has a 54/41 advantage over Paul Ryan. She leads the Republicans by margins of 17-24 points with independents.

Did you watch the statement she put out a few days ago in support of gay marriage? It sorta reminded me of why I liked Obama a lot better than I liked her when they were fighting for the 2008 nomination. Hillary is great on paper and I'd definitely support her over any Republican but something about her speaking style is a bit off-putting. I don't think she would roll to a huge victory if the GOP managed to put up somebody charismatic. Admittedly, I can't think of who that charismatic Republican might be.

This is mostly schtick, but the odds-makers do have her as a solid favorite at this point. Basically at 4-1 with the next closest at 10-1 or so.Yeah... totally agree though. You rarely get the sense she's speaking from the heart or with any passion about an issue in her public appearances/statements.

btw... at 20:1 Elizabeth Warren looks like nice value as the Dem nominee. Dems have a history of dethroning the early front-runner, and Warren's staking out a position that could become even more popular than it is today over the next couple years. Another banking crisis and those Youtube videos turn into campaign materials overnight.

 

[cstu]

W - My brother wants to be President.

 

[3 out of 5]

or Elizabeth Warren.

GTFO . Seriously.

She's on a roll. Considering their history in this country it's nice to see a Native American woman in the Senate.

 

[Fennis]

Its likely neither one will run, and certainly neither one can win.

Oh, Nov 6 2012 Fennis. You were so wide-eyed and bushy tailed.

 

[SacramentoBob]

As part of my ongoing efforts to prepare my 'good friends on the other side of the aisle' for the epic FDR-like beatdown that Hillary is going to lay on whichever sacrificial lamb the GOP trots out for 2016, I present another reminder.

This time, from Florida -- where Ms. Clinton kicks the living tar out of two in-state pretenders:

Mrs. Clinton, who shows the most strength of any potential 2016 aspirant in Quinnipiac University's national polls, leads Jeb Bush 51-40 percent and bests Sen. Rubio 52-41 percent in a poll of Sunshine State registered voters.

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and also has a 54/41 advantage over Paul Ryan. She leads the Republicans by margins of 17-24 points with independents.

Ryan has closed the gap significantly in the past 18 months.

 

[FlapJacks]

Other than being a woman and wiffe of na former President and being the brother/son of former Presidents, these people have nothing to run on. They've managed to get themselves elected/appointed to powerful positions and have either done litlle with them or made things worse. Where are the accomplishments? Pitiful that people can't look beyond a recognizable name and see that there's nothing there

 

[3 out of 5]

As part of my ongoing efforts to prepare my 'good friends on the other side of the aisle' for the epic FDR-like beatdown that Hillary is going to lay on whichever sacrificial lamb the GOP trots out for 2016, I present another reminder.

This time, from Florida -- where Ms. Clinton kicks the living tar out of two in-state pretenders:

Mrs. Clinton, who shows the most strength of any potential 2016 aspirant in Quinnipiac University's national polls, leads Jeb Bush 51-40 percent and bests Sen. Rubio 52-41 percent in a poll of Sunshine State registered voters.

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and also has a 54/41 advantage over Paul Ryan. She leads the Republicans by margins of 17-24 points with independents.

Ryan has closed the gap significantly in the past 18 months.

I think a strong argument could be made that Hillary is the one that has closed the gap.

 

[timschochet]

Other than being a woman and wiffe of na former President and being the brother/son of former Presidents, these people have nothing to run on. They've managed to get themselves elected/appointed to powerful positions and have either done litlle with them or made things worse. Where are the accomplishments? Pitiful that people can't look beyond a recognizable name and see that there's nothing there

i think being a Senator and Secretary of State are good qualifications for President. Being a governor of a large state is an even better qualification. Ultimately though, NOTHING prepares you to be President , which is why all this talk about what have they done is really silly IMO.

 

[FlapJacks]

Other than being a woman and wiffe of na former President and being the brother/son of former Presidents, these people have nothing to run on. They've managed to get themselves elected/appointed to powerful positions and have either done litlle with them or made things worse. Where are the accomplishments? Pitiful that people can't look beyond a recognizable name and see that there's nothing there

i think being a Senator and Secretary of State are good qualifications for President. Being a governor of a large state is an even better qualification. Ultimately though, NOTHING prepares you to be President , which is why all this talk about what have they done is really silly IMO.

What did she accomplish as Senator/ That's a pretty powerful position to have and yet...nothing

What did she accomplish as SoS other that to say that we can now say that the world is much more dangerous place?

What did Jeb accomplish as Governor of a large state?

It's like when sports team hires a mediocre or bad manager/coach who has never won simply because its a known name.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Jeb came out today and said that he is indeed exploring a run.

Unbelievable, this may truly drive me to a 3rd party if these are the final nominees.

Democrats, Republicans, please get your sht together and come up with someone new.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Gary Johnson

Gary Danielson has a better chance of being President than Jeb Bush does.

 

[cstu]

I do think Jeb runs, but it won't be until 2016. He knows very well that the Bush name is mud right now and it's going to be awhile before people are ready to vote for another Bush.

I believe it will be another Bush/Clinton matchup in 2016.

 

[joffer]

I do think Jeb runs, but it won't be until 2016. He knows very well that the Bush name is mud right now and it's going to be awhile before people are ready to vote for another Bush.

I believe it will be another Bush/Clinton matchup in 2016.

ILL MOVE TO CANADA I SWEAR IT,!!! Lol!!!!!111

 

[timschochet]

Jeb came out today and said that he is indeed exploring a run.

Unbelievable, this may truly drive me to a 3rd party if these are the final nominees.

Democrats, Republicans, please get your sht together and come up with someone new.

I don't believe that Jeb can get past the primaries. He is pro-immigration reform.

He MIGHT have had a chance before Obama's speech. But the executive order has moved this issue front and center for the Republicans. I think it will be a litmus test. I hope I'm wrong about this. Jeb would IMO be a very reasonable candidate for President.

 

[cstu]

Jeb came out today and said that he is indeed exploring a run.

Unbelievable, this may truly drive me to a 3rd party if these are the final nominees.

Democrats, Republicans, please get your sht together and come up with someone new.

I don't believe that Jeb can get past the primaries. He is pro-immigration reform.

He MIGHT have had a chance before Obama's speech. But the executive order has moved this issue front and center for the Republicans. I think it will be a litmus test. I hope I'm wrong about this. Jeb would IMO be a very reasonable candidate for President.

Didn't Obama make it a non-issue for the primaries? Even if Jeb is in favor of immigration reform he's not going to have much choice if a bill overturning the EO hits his desk.