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2017-18 NBA (Playoffs): A gasping, wheezing thread begs message board poster arguing how Jordan never lost a Finals to just let it die in peace (1 Viewer)

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Cavs have offensive guys who can maybe keep up with GS, but they'll get shredded on defense.

Cavs have defensive guys who can hang with golden state, but they won't be able to score.

I can talk myself into this being intersting if I completely ignore the Vegas odds.

 
We're talking about twitter accounts, right? Guy had more than one twitter? Twittering to himself? So these are false twitterings, right?!?! This makes me so angry.

 
I would figure at this point they would all be willing to cut salary to make everything work just like the Warriors have done.  Someone else can correct me if it's not possible in this case.
It doesn't matter because their cap holds put them over.  They will have to likely trade fur him.

 
I don't like that new website because no matter what I do the Wolves are pretty much stuck with this team.
How about firing the coach? For better or worse, that's what locked in teams do quite often, and in this case, it seems to make a bunch of sense. Is Thibs owed a bunch of money that MIN is too cheap to pay? That's the only reason I could see that they'd keep him around.

 
I'm interested to see what the Cavs do with Draymond since he has seemingly forgotten how to shoot.  I could see them testing out the Tony Allen treatment on him in Game 1.
That's defnitely what I would do.  Granted, you run the risk of him getting hot by giving him open looks which would make GS unstoppable again.  But him not getting hot appears to be likely.

Cavs have offensive guys who can maybe keep up with GS, but they'll get shredded on defense.

Cavs have defensive guys who can hang with golden state, but they won't be able to score.

I can talk myself into this being intersting if I completely ignore the Vegas odds.
I know everyone's favorite comment, but this really depends on how they call the series.

He's still owed $24M of a 5yr/$40M contract and just lead them to the playoffs for the first time in 95 years.I don't think firing him makes enough sense to overcome that.

I think he overplays his players to an almost comical degree and has made some questionable decisions as GM but I doubt the owner is willing to call it all a failure and start over again, especially as it sends the wrong message to Butler and Townes who they need to re-sign soon. Actually, who knows, maybe Townes would welcome such a move given the recent reports of turmoil in the organization.

That Wiggins contract is ridiculous and, what's worse, they seemed to know it as soon as they offered it to him.  You've convinced me, Thibs should be fired  :lmao:
Consiering the owner has a long track record of giving coaches far more chances than they deserve (other than Casey), I don't see him cutting bait on Thibs anytime soon.

 
GS has a few decent options if they leave Green all alone.  The first is what they did in 2015 (especially Lee in Game 3) where you have him be the screener.  His defender now has to leave the lane to hedge leaving the rim-run or, more likely, the shallow roll where is he very good at attacking downhill.  The other is to get him on the corner and have him pick his spots at cuts or runs to the glass.  GS will have more to worry about when they have more than one dork out there.  You can always get away with one.

 
GS minus 1400

CLE plus 800

At Rio tonight. 
I think if you were ever going to bet on the Cavs on the road tonight is the night. The Warriors have been lack luster in their last 4ish games, the Cavs are going to slow the game down and ISO everything, and Iggy is out. 

It may force a bad shooting night and he Warriors might not adjust completely until game 2. 

I wouldn't bet it, but I can see a case for it with those odds. 

 
He's still owed $24M of a 5yr/$40M contract and just lead them to the playoffs for the first time in 95 years.I don't think firing him makes enough sense to overcome that.

I think he overplays his players to an almost comical degree and has made some questionable decisions as GM but I doubt the owner is willing to call it all a failure and start over again, especially as it sends the wrong message to Butler and Townes who they need to re-sign soon. Actually, who knows, maybe Townes would welcome such a move given the recent reports of turmoil in the organization.

That Wiggins contract is ridiculous and, what's worse, they seemed to know it as soon as they offered it to him.  You've convinced me, Thibs should be fired  :lmao:
Let's see...potentially running the superstar you're going to build the team around for the next 12 years and probably end up paying $300 million over the course of his career to "save" $24 million dollars or firing the guy.  Seems like an easy choice.  The $24 million is a sunk cost, Towns health isn't.

 
Let's see...potentially running the superstar you're going to build the team around for the next 12 years and probably end up paying $300 million over the course of his career to "save" $24 million dollars or firing the guy.  Seems like an easy choice.  The $24 million is a sunk cost, Towns health isn't.
If Glen Taylor thought like that, he wouldn't have hired Thibs in the first place.

 
I think if you were ever going to bet on the Cavs on the road tonight is the night. The Warriors have been lack luster in their last 4ish games, the Cavs are going to slow the game down and ISO everything, and Iggy is out. 

It may force a bad shooting night and he Warriors might not adjust completely until game 2. 

I wouldn't bet it, but I can see a case for it with those odds. 
LeBron's worst games this postseason have been game 1 iirc so there's that.

Houston was a really good team.  I don't think it's fair to compare what GS did against them to Cleveland.

Iguodala out will be interesting to see how GS defends LeBron.  He has always done a good job limiting and making LeBron work.

 
LeBron's worst games this postseason have been game 1 iirc so there's that.

Houston was a really good team.  I don't think it's fair to compare what GS did against them to Cleveland.

Iguodala out will be interesting to see how GS defends LeBron.  He has always done a good job limiting and making LeBron work.
I am not buying the game 1 jinx. 2 of the games were blow out losses and LeBron has shown us a few times that he will conserve some energy during blow outs, the game 1 against the Raptors he had a poor shooting night, but was good every where else, including only 1 turnover. 

Rockets are a good team, but no team can do ISO better than LeBron. Paul, and Harden can be slowed down and sometimes even completely shut down. LeBron can be slowed, occasionally, never shut down unless he chooses too. 

As far as comparing them to the Rockets,I really wasn't. In games 1 and 3 the Warriors looked like the Warriors. In games 4 - 7 they played when they had to.  I am not sure why, but I could see that trend continuing against what they believe is an inferior opponent compared to the Rockets and the Cavs stealing one. The Cavs aren't going to miss 27 threes in a row or even have a drought like that, because LeBron will just take it in himself and score. 

 
LeBron's worst games this postseason have been game 1 iirc so there's that.

Houston was a really good team.  I don't think it's fair to compare what GS did against them to Cleveland.

Iguodala out will be interesting to see how GS defends LeBron.  He has always done a good job limiting and making LeBron work.
I've never understood this sentiment.  LeBron went for 35/13/8 in 2015 when Iggy won the FMVP.

He went for 30/11/9 in 2016 when they won.

He went for 33/12/10 last year when people were implying that Durant had passed him as the best player on the planet.  No one has slowed him down on the Warriors in any of their series.  Sure Iggy might be the guy who gets the bulk of the responsibility of facing him, but he's not slowing him down.  Maybe him guarding LeBron gives Durant more wind for the offensive end, but that's a different narrative than saying he's limiting LeBron.

 
I've never understood this sentiment.  LeBron went for 35/13/8 in 2015 when Iggy won the FMVP.

He went for 30/11/9 in 2016 when they won.

He went for 33/12/10 last year when people were implying that Durant had passed him as the best player on the planet.  No one has slowed him down on the Warriors in any of their series.  Sure Iggy might be the guy who gets the bulk of the responsibility of facing him, but he's not slowing him down.  Maybe him guarding LeBron gives Durant more wind for the offensive end, but that's a different narrative than saying he's limiting LeBron.
The numbers say that, but I remember watching those finals in 2015 and Iggy did slow him down. I am on my phone so hard to look up the stats, but I think he shot like 35 percent for the series and had almost as many turnovers as assists. 

 
The numbers say that, but I remember watching those finals in 2015 and Iggy did slow him down. I am on my phone so hard to look up the stats, but I think he shot like 35 percent for the series and had almost as many turnovers as assists. 
The A/TO ratio wasn't quite that bad, but otherwise you're remembering correctly.  That was the one where they lost Irving in Game 1 after losing Love earlier in the playoffs so LeBron's usage rate was around 157%.

 
I've been off the grid 98% since Tuesday morning. Can someone link me to an accurate balanced and hopefully comical version wth is going on with Philly?

Dubs -13? Ugh. ok

 
it's getting messier by the day, 6'ers need to jump in before this week is out. they have connected the accounts to some commentors who have given way too much information as well:

http://bleacherreport.com/philadelphia-76ers

there is no way that Colangelo can survive this, if he does i may throw my towel in with the 6'ers. It is gross, and they owe this guy nothing. 

 
The idea that his wife ran the accounts sounds plausible. Unfortunately for him I don’t think that helps his case for continued employment at all. 
Whether it's his wife, son or dad, he should and probably did know about it. If he didn't, then he's an idiot and needs to go. No one will believe he knew nothing anyway. 

 
The idea that his wife ran the accounts sounds plausible. Unfortunately for him I don’t think that helps his case for continued employment at all. 
def shouldn't. when he finds out and all 3 accounts turn private in an hour or so, it certainly would seem to indicate that he had a a part to play

 
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The A/TO ratio wasn't quite that bad, but otherwise you're remembering correctly.  That was the one where they lost Irving in Game 1 after losing Love earlier in the playoffs so LeBron's usage rate was around 157%.
Yes, his usage rate was through the roof, but didn't shoot for his season average a single game in the series.  He shot 48.8% form the floor that season, but never hit that in a single game (shot under 40% in four games). He shot 35.4% from three that season, yet only hit that once in a finals game.

His usage rate being so high also meant a huge amount of pressure on Iggy for the series.  Obviously LeBron had a huge load to carry for the series and no one is faulting his play, but to say Iggy didn't contribute to slowing him down (i would argue considerably) I think is faulty.

As a comparison, he has had a huge load to carry this post season as well, yet has shot just about at his season long percentages for the post season (.542/.367 season, .542/.351 post season).

 
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Yes, his usage rate was through the roof, but didn't shoot for his season average a single game in the series.  He shot 48.8% form the floor that season, but never hit that in a single game (shot under 40% in four games). He shot 35.4% from three that season, yet only hit that once in a finals game.

His usage rate being so high also meant a huge amount of pressure on Iggy for the series.  Obviously LeBron had a huge load to carry for the series and no one is faulting his play, but to say Iggy didn't contribute to slowing him down (i would argue considerably) I think is faulty.

As a comparison, he has had a huge load to carry this post season as well, yet has shot just about at his season long percentages for the post season (.542/.367 season, .542/.351 post season).
Yup, I think we're all on the same page.  LeBron's per game point/assist/rebound totals didn't really do justice to Iguodala's value in that series.

 
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