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2017 College Football Thread: Hawaiian QB devastated to find out Jesus was "kinda rooting for Georgia" (2 Viewers)

jb1020 said:
I was flat out shocked that Mullen left for Florida.  You guys could embarrass me with past comments about how I thought that Florida would be the last place he went.   Its kind of shady, our old AD who is an Alumnus poached Mullen less than a year after taking the job at Florida.  Can't be bitter, he left us about a million times better than when he got here.  Don't know how well he'll do there though. 

First names for the Miss State opening coming out...Pruitt (Bama's DC) as the head coach and he has Chip Lindsey (Auburn's OC) to be our OC/Associate HC.  I'd do that deal in a heart beat.  Pruitt is pretty unproven, but that combo fits footprint as good as possible.
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Is Pruitt a character worry?  Didn’t he bang a cheerleader or something?

 
timschochet said:
First it’s not wrong, and if you want to discuss that aspect of it we can do so in the politics forum. 

Second, I wasn’t trolling. If Tennessee fans are really going to push this guy out over this issue, then there’s an incredible irony going on here and I can guarantee you I won’t have been the last person to raise it.

Finally, sorry Ka El but this absolutely IS the time and place for this discussion. The main reason I and many others were opposed to the Politics Forum in the first place is because these issues intertwine with each other. 
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Since when do people from Tennessee vote in Alabama elections?

 
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I've got some booster buddies tied to the Vols and I'm hearing these rumblings, for what it's worth (grain of salt)

• Currie signed a "memorandum of understanding" with Schiano while in Ohio. Was en route to pick him up for presser when backlash hit. 
• Schiano's legal team seems to think the paperwork is enough to sue for a buyout of some sort. Others are skeptical. 
• Currie and Schiano are apparently buddies and Currie really wanted him. Currie reportedly went rogue on the hire after others in program said he was a no go. Someone in the department leaked the hire hoping to trigger the outrage.. it worked. 
• Currie is walking dead... will be canned this week. 
• Vols are going to continue to suck for the forseeable future despite having buckets of money and top tier facilities. 
• John Gruden is lol-ing himself to tears 
 

 
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I've got some booster buddies tied to the Vols and I'm hearing these rumblings, for what it's worth (grain of salt)

• Currie signed a "memorandum of understanding" with Schiano while in Ohio. Was en route to pick him up for presser when backlash hit. 
• Schiano's legal team seems to think the paperwork is enough to sue for a buyout of some sort. Others are skeptical. 
• Currie and Schiano are apparently buddies and Currie really wanted him. Currie reportedly went rogue on the hire after others in program said he was a no go. Someone in the department leaked the hire hoping to trigger the outrage.. it worked. 
• Currie is walking dead... will be canned this week. 
• Vols are going to continue to suck for the forseeable future despite having buckets of money and top tier facilities. 
• John Gruden is lol-ing himself to tears 
 
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Solid rumors here.  :thumbup:

 
I know Clay Travis is full of #### but he's reporting Jason Witten has told people he would leave the Cowboys today to become the Vols head coach.  WTF?  Vanderbilt is better at this than Tennessee

 
More rumors, but apparently Oregon State reached out to Jeff Tedford to gauge his interest at leaving Fresno (FRESNO) St. for Corvallis and he said "nah, I'm good right here".  Beau Baldwin is their top target.  He actually beat Oregon State while he was the coach at Eastern Washington.  Poor Beavers.

 
It will be interesting to see the fallout for Schiano elsewhere.  That rock pick will be retweeted out to every player and their family for any prospect they are going after. 

 
General Malaise said:
More rumors, but apparently Oregon State reached out to Jeff Tedford to gauge his interest at leaving Fresno (FRESNO) St. for Corvallis and he said "nah, I'm good right here".  Beau Baldwin is their top target.  He actually beat Oregon State while he was the coach at Eastern Washington.  Poor Beavers.
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:lmao:  Jesus. At least they have a good baseball team, I guess. 

 
Capella said:
:lmao:  Jesus. At least they have a good baseball team, I guess. 
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They're trying to get better facilities, but they are so far behind the rest of the conference. One thing that irked Gary Anderson was an unkept promise to spend $1MM upgrading their weight room.  Crap like that is going to scare off coaches who view the job as career suicide.  

 
A bit surprised by the reaction to Schiano.  He was not the best game day coach at Rutgers (e.g., went to a soft prevent defense way too early and often), but getting Rutgers ranked in the Top 10 nationally was a hell of accomplishment from where he started with the program.  They were probably in the bottom five out of all ~110 D-1 teams in the late 90s/early 00s before Schiano.

Tagging him with the Sandusky stuff is a bit of a stretch, as the evidence is not there for that.

I don't see how he's a worse option than David Cutcliffe (who they appear to be targeting now) and whose Duke teams were last relevant about five years ago -- but Vols connection, I guess.

 
RUSF18 said:
Huh?

"Sunday afternoon, Tennessee signed a memorandum of understanding with Schiano, currently Ohio State’s defensive coordinator, to be the Volunteers’ next head coach"
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LINKY

The school and Schiano were close to an agreement earlier Sunday, but it fell apart after widespread backlash that included a protest on the Knoxville, Tenn., campus and complaints on social media from fans, state representatives and gubernatorial candidates.
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:lmao: at Tennessee thinking they are so much better than that hire.  Their recruiting class was already disintegrating, now it will be a full on free fall.

 
One of these teams should take a run at one of the new Big Ten guys - Jeff Brohm or PJ Fleck. 

They seem like good coaches. Would likely do well at TN. Though it seems like maybe they will go after Cutcliffe?

 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
I'm curious, in what way do you think that is shady?
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I get thats its business if that's what you're getting at thats fine. 

We hired Sticklin as AD because he was a homegrown kid, Greg Byrne groomed him when he was the AD here...From Jackson, went to Miss State then he gets the job and says its his dream job.  Few years later he bolts for Florida.  Is always on twitter talking about "family" and this and that. 

Now less than a year on the job at Florida he comes back and hires our coach away from us.  He probably won't be honored at half time next year when we host Florida. 

 
jb1020 said:
I get thats its business if that's what you're getting at thats fine. 

We hired Sticklin as AD because he was a homegrown kid, Greg Byrne groomed him when he was the AD here...From Jackson, went to Miss State then he gets the job and says its his dream job.  Few years later he bolts for Florida.  Is always on twitter talking about "family" and this and that. 

Now less than a year on the job at Florida he comes back and hires our coach away from us.  He probably won't be honored at half time next year when we host Florida. 
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Coaches/AD's are put in impossible situations.  What is he supposed to say if it isn't his dream job.  Or what if he changes his mind over time as other things change.

:shrug:

 
Bruce Feldman says Tee Martin is a leading contender for the Tenn HC job. 

Amazing.

 
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whoknew said:
That is amazing. They are really going to hire a coach with no head coaching experience? How the hell far has TN fallen?
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The distance of the fall that will lead to them hiring Martin is everything that occurred in the past 24 hours. 

 
General Malaise said:
Did Ole Miss not even try to upgrade their HC position?  Have they given up, like a man wearing sweatpants full time?
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I think thats a telling sign of that their sanctions are going to be.  Rumor is they're getting another bowl ban and a lot of those studs they have left want Luke...its a play to keep them from transferring. 

Pruitt still the hot name at Miss State.  People are talking now about bill Napier coming with him as OC. 

I think I'd be happy with Pruitt.

 
jb1020 said:
I think thats a telling sign of that their sanctions are going to be.  Rumor is they're getting another bowl ban and a lot of those studs they have left want Luke...its a play to keep them from transferring. 

Pruitt still the hot name at Miss State.  People are talking now about bill Napier coming with him as OC. 

I think I'd be happy with Pruitt.
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Seems like just yesterday both Miss schools were the toast of college football.  Things move fast around here.

 
Don Quixote said:
I don't see how he's a worse option than David Cutcliffe (who they appear to be targeting now) and whose Duke teams were last relevant about five years ago -- but Vols connection, I guess.
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From and Xs and Os perspective it's Cutcliffe all day and it's not close.  That alone is enough to look at him over GS imo.

 
What is being witnessed is a death spiral in the sport. A complete denial that the talent level is dropping and the age of parity is upon us. 

 
Tom Servo said:
He’s not been hired.
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:lmao:  I'm aware he hasn't been hired. I can read good and also can tune into virtually every media source imaginable. 

The point is, a signed MOU can be legally binding if all the required parties sign it. You can't have an "offer withdrawn" (which is what you wrote originally, linking an article discussing a signed MOU) if an MOU has been signed because the signing of the document is the acknowledgment of the offer. What Tennessee could do is terminate the agreement, subject to penalties. 

The new Ole Miss coach is currently hired under a signed MOU. It allows him to perform all the duties of the job without going through the longer drawn out process that comes with being hired at a public school. Rick Barnes signed an MOU to become the basketball coach at Tennessee back in 2015. The MOUs don't become public like the typical contracts do. 

https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/11/26/greg-schiano-tennessee-volunteers-memorandum-understanding

MAKING SENSE OF THE MOU AS A LEGALLY ENFORCEABLE CONTRACT

As a starting point, it is worth noting the obvious disclaimer: while journalists have reported that Schiano and Tennessee signed an MOU, there has been no official statement by either Schiano or Tennessee to that effect. If no such agreement had been signed, Schiano’s potential claims would be far weaker.

Here’s another disclaimer: even if an MOU has been signed, it is not yet a public document.

With those disclaimers out of the way, the language of an MOU signed by Schiano and Tennessee would be crucial in understanding each side’s rights. Other MOUs signed by Tennessee may provide clues. One such MOU is available online. In 2015, Tennessee signed an MOU with Rick Barnes to become the school’s men’s head basketball coach. Barnes would later sign a six-year, $15 million contract. There are several key terms in the Barnes’ MOU:

1) The MOU is described as a “binding and legally enforceable agreement” once fully executed (signed). 

Significance: Note first that the MOU must be signed by all relevant parties in order to become binding. In the case of Barnes’s MOU, four persons had to sign it: Barnes; vice chancellor and athletic director Dave Hart; chancellor Jimmy Cheek; and treasurer and CFO Butch Peccolo. If Schiano’s MOU contained similar requirements, it would not be enforceable unless signed by all of the listed persons.

Second, Barnes’s MOU is portrayed as an interim and incomplete contract—but nonetheless a binding contract. It is “interim” in that it would be replaced by an employment contract and is “incomplete” in that it only highlights key terms as opposed to detailing every term (as would the eventual employment contract).

This particular language in Barnes's MOU reflects why universities use MOUs. An MOU in part reflects that the coach and the university’s timing are on very different schedules. A coach wants to start immediately given the implications for recruiting and assembling a staff. Waiting for the paperwork to clear could put the coach and the program at a disadvantage.
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this morning Dan Patrick came out against Tennessee fans for nixing the Schiano hire

iirc, he said that in the hours of testimony and reams of paperwork tied to the case Schiano's name only came up once and that was because of the story already reported that McQueary said Schiano admitted seeing Sandusky raping a kid

but in all the other testimony, all the other evidence, his name never appears again. no one else says he has done anything wrong except McQueary and his story is "i overheard Schiano telling someone else...."

i didn't, and won't, go through all the stories, articles, etc. to try and verify whether or not that's true but found it interesting that Patrick was willing to go on national radio and throw out an opinion that runs counter to the national storyline today. 

he had Finebaum on as well but i didn't catch what he had to say on it.  did anyone else hear that segment today?

eta: before someone calls me a child molester, an idiot or a homer... i'm just relaying what DP said this morning. 

 
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mr. furley said:
this morning Dan Patrick came out against Tennessee fans for nixing the Schiano hire

iirc, he said that in the hours of testimony and reams of paperwork tied to the case Schiano's name only came up once and that was because of the story already reported that McQueary said Schiano admitted seeing Sandusky raping a kid

but in all the other testimony, all the other evidence, his name never appears again. no one else says he has done anything wrong except McQueary and his story is "i overheard Schiano telling someone else...."

i didn't, and won't, go through all the stories, articles, etc. to try and verify whether or not that's true but found it interesting that Patrick was willing to go on national radio and throw out an opinion that runs counter to the national storyline today. 

he had Finebaum on as well but i didn't catch what he had to say on it.  did anyone else hear that segment today?

eta: before someone calls me a child molester, an idiot or a homer... i'm just relaying what DP said this morning. 
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Outside of Clay Travis, I don't think there is a single media member (maybe outside of other local UT guys) who isn't saying something similar to Patrick. Yahoo and USA Today both came out with lengthy stories saying similar things. 

 
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