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2017 College Football Thread: Hawaiian QB devastated to find out Jesus was "kinda rooting for Georgia" (2 Viewers)
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SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
UCF vs Alabama for the 
The Commish
Footballguy
To be fair, it was a 12 win team that wasn't tested at all throughout the year. Not all "12 win teams" are equal. Was their SOS even in the top 50? (asking, don't know). Do you really believe beating Wisconsin is a significant feather in their cap?
bigmarc27
Footballguy
Just as an aside, it’s truly amazing what Dabo has done in Clemson. I was chatting with friends that I graduated with about what he’s accomplished. During our tenure, the best season was our senior year when the team went 9-4 with wins over #3 FSU and #4 Tennessee (Tennessee was #4 if that let’s you know how long ago it was!!). Today that would be the worst season we’ve had in 7 years. There were good memories from those teams with Charlie Whitehurst, Woody Dantzler, Keith Adams, etc... but the talent on the whole was terribly lacking compared to now. We had one first rounder the entire time I was there, Rod Gardner. He would be probably the 7th best WR under Swinney at this point.
7 straight 10+ wins seasons
4 ACC titles
3 straight playoffs and the Natty
7 straight 10+ wins seasons
4 ACC titles
3 straight playoffs and the Natty
The Commish
Footballguy
Well, one of those was Wisconsin....not that hard to spin that game....that game should have been a large MOV than it was. I suspect you're absolutely right when it comes to the "eye test" talk. It will be all they talk about with Bama though according to ESPN, their resumes aren't all that different.I wouldn't want to bet either way on who it is. I just think when they are done looking at everything, most people know Bama is the better team so we are going we to be subjected to 15 minutes worth of "eye test" talk and "Bama has 7 wins over teams that went .500" <-- look for a lot of this one from the committee chair if they do get the spot. I think OSU has 5 such wins.
How they spin off the two wins for OSU against top-10 teams?They'll probably focus on that Iowa loss.
It's interesting we haven't heard much "quality loss" talk
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
Secretly I just want to see Alabama get snubbed so I can listen to Finebaum lose his mind, and that insane Phyllis chick that sounds like she smokes 20 packs a day go off like a crazy woman.
She would have some kind of alien conspiracy theory that would be awesome.
She would have some kind of alien conspiracy theory that would be awesome.
bigmarc27
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Georgia gets smoked by oklahoma. Clemson beats whoever they play
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
We need Alabama to be left out for those who would like to see the playoffs expand. Alabama I think carries more weight than any other team in CFB at the moment. Having Saban be able to pull the strings along with the SEC to get the playoffs expanded would be wonderful...well for those of us who want to see more College football.
Jayded
Footballguy
As much as I think the conference stuff is way overrated, the best way to expand the playoff but keep the regular season meaningful is to go to only 6 teams.
Eight teams would likely include undeserving teams who could hit multiple bumps and yet sneak in.
I’d be fine if we went to six teams with each P5 champ automatically in and the committee is there to pick only the at-large 6th team and to decide seeding. In my scenario, top two teams get a bye. I think I’d also play the 3-6, 4-5 games next weekend so all teams get a few weeks off before the final four playoff games.
Eight teams would likely include undeserving teams who could hit multiple bumps and yet sneak in.
I’d be fine if we went to six teams with each P5 champ automatically in and the committee is there to pick only the at-large 6th team and to decide seeding. In my scenario, top two teams get a bye. I think I’d also play the 3-6, 4-5 games next weekend so all teams get a few weeks off before the final four playoff games.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Yep. Maybe two play-in games.
At the risk of using conjecture, the top three teams in the SEC are better than any team in the big ten.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I'm not so sure about Oklahoma but probably.
Clemson is heads above the rest, more so imo than past years.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
After sleeping on it, I'm still torn by this conundrum.
TEAM A:
Wins over top 10: none
Losses: One to Team B (last week)
Conference title: no
TEAM B:
Wins over top 10: Over Team A (last week), over another top-three team
Losses: Two to teams in the top three, one additional "bad" loss
Conference title: no
TEAM C:
Wins over top 10: two
Losses: One to team in the top three: one additional "bad" loss
Conference title: yes
TEAM A:
Wins over top 10: none
Losses: One to Team B (last week)
Conference title: no
TEAM B:
Wins over top 10: Over Team A (last week), over another top-three team
Losses: Two to teams in the top three, one additional "bad" loss
Conference title: no
TEAM C:
Wins over top 10: two
Losses: One to team in the top three: one additional "bad" loss
Conference title: yes
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Nah....
Yep. Maybe two play-in games.
At the risk of using conjecture, the top three teams in the SEC are better than any team in the big ten.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Paul Finebaum getting beat down on ESPN. Finebaum tried to bring up the Vegas line for Bama in the playoffs and how Bama was favored by 5 over Ohio State. panel wasn't having it. Mack Brown said Ohio State would win against Bama. Brown on Bama trying to throw the football is not winning.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Void of attention? Oregon was in the first playoff iteration and rolled FSU before getting mauled by Ezikiel Elliott. Washington was in last year. No team is deserving this year and everybody out here gets it. Nobody is unhappy. What do you mean by "void of attention since its inception? Thing only dates back to 2014.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
To answer my own question: I think we all agree Team B (Auburn) has no shot. But I still don't see how Team A (Alabama) has a better resume than Team B. So despite the awful loss, my vote would go to Team C (Ohio State).
Besides, that also would solve the committee's issue of potentially putting No. 1 Clemson at a disadvantage having to play Bama in New Orleans.
Dedfin
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
I could live another 3 lifetimes and never understand why Paul Finebaum should matter as a mouthpiece at all. Was he a coach or former player? Why doesn't everybody have their own local disc jokey lobbying for them on a national stage? I don't get it.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Team D:
Southern Cal - If Alabama and Ohio State are in the discussion USC should be too
-OZ-
Footballguy
Team D.Which one of these is UCF?
Needing overtime to beat Memphis doesn't help but man it would be great to see them in it.
Until they got trounced by Clemson.
-OZ-
Footballguy
49-14 in South bend (along with a close loss to Washington State) takes them right out of the conversation.
Dedfin
Footballguy
Undefeated conference champ. Beat some ranked teams. You can only beat the teams on your schedule, right? Tell me how this is different than Boise St or Utah. I don't know if they are better than Bama or Ohio State or USC but without playing stats games, they deserve it more than any 1 loss team.
Parrothead
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
pretty sure I'm the first today to say I'd put UCF in. But they'd still get trounced by Clemson.
Dedfin
Footballguy
Yeah... I'm quoting you but talking to everyone. I think they probably would be the worst team in the playoffs, but they deserve it imo.
But they'd still get trounced by Clemson.
bigmarc27
Footballguy
It would be a huge statement for non-power 5 schools. I just don’t see it... neither do they since they’ve already accepted a Peach bid.
But they'd still get trounced by Clemson.
ragincajun
Footballguy
I don’t think Bama gets in but if they do and have a month to get healthy it’s theirs to lose.
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ragincajun
Footballguy
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
If an undefeated, conference champion that is not Power5 cannot get in this year with the weak resumes contending for the 4 slot, then there is no hope for it to ever happen. On principle, UCF should be #4. It won't happen - so maybe we add a new playoff tier. The Power5 playoff, the non-Power5 playoff, and the host of meaningless bowl games.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
bigmarc27
Footballguy
This playoff was never meant for non P5. They all but came out and said it when it was created.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Yeah, this is what I was saying in regards to UCF last week or so. If these schools have zero shot, just say so and set something else up for them.
bagger
Footballguy
As a usc fan they have no business being in the playoffs.
I would rather see UCF get in although think tOSU or any conference champ should be in over Bama. Non conference winners should never get in. Period.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Not so sure about that, I mean mathematically you're saying a 31 point loss is easily worse than a 35 point loss.
I didn't watch either game though, so maybe it was.
need2know
Footballguy
Politician Spock
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Clemson has a terrible loss to 4-8 Syracuse.....it happens,
Bama's best win is against LSU.
I think Buckeyes get in.
Bama's best win is against LSU.
I think Buckeyes get in.
need2know
Footballguy
That is pretty bad. Shows how weak the entire field is. 2 losses should keep you out
Politician Spock
Footballguy
This is why the loss to Iowa, as bad as it was, isn't as important as people are making it out to be. The committee looks at losses, but not as much as they look at wins. They want 4 teams capable of winning the playoff. All teams are capable of losing it. Not having a bad loss on your resume is not as good as having big wins on your resume.
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General Malaise
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
IMO not wining your conference should keep you out too. But the committee screwed that up last year they should of taken Penn State, however they kept it in conference by taking OSU who I don't think clearly belonged last year
Man In The Box
Footballguy
He’s an instant channel change for me. I can’t believe people put any value in his homer opinions.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
need2know
Footballguy
They would be the only exception. No one would have anything like that on their resume.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
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