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What do you think that means? I ran into the same issue and took the value or the bait)...I am not 100% sure either way.
If you haven't paid real close attention to the early drafts you're going to be shocked at the kind of WR value that's falling into the 3rd-4th. If I thought I'd have been able to get two of A-Rob, Watkins, Fitz, Crabtree, Pryor with my 3rd/4th picks I'd have been very tempted to pass on Jordy and start off RB-RB as well.
Funny, because before I picked Freeman (my 2nd RB) I looked at where I am slotted to draft. I can walk away with Crabtree, Pryor, Adams or Fitz...versus the RBs there as Crowell and Lynch...I do like the WRs in that sweet spot. And then, Snead, Marshall, Garcon in the 5ht and 6th...I may go WR across the board in rounds 3-6.
They certainly used to be. They don't have to be anymore with last year's lineup rule changes
last year there was very little difference, but I do think things have changed this year so WRs are sliding further.
I don't have prior years to compare it to but I think a lot of it is due to the positional tiers more than the specific format. The RBs just seem to get a lot uglier a lot quicker than in years past - there aren't more than 10 or 11 I'd feel comfortable running out there as an RB1 whereas I wouldn't feel terrible with any of 22-24 guys as my WR1. I can understand why even in a start-1 format people are reaching for those top RBs a bit.
I think I'd take it ... I mean, obviously I like Jordy more in a vacuum b/c I took him over Thomas in B, but leaving that aside, you already have a lot of risk in your WR2-4's and I feel pretty safe in saying Jordy has a higher floor than Thomas.
I grabbed tygoat, if you want him we can swap if not I am fine with himOldMilwaukee said:
He's still avail in C in mid-12th ... if you want to get on that chat room I'm sure someone would lateral into your 12.01 ... if not I can try to swing a trade when I'm back in front of my laptop later tonight.
You still have to accept the trade offer in draft F...........
yes they fall...do you want a guy like Dalton as your QB1...?...I'm assuming you are thinking about not usuing your 3rd or 6th on one...
Dalton finished with 17.7ppg last year in this scoring system ... Wilson had 18.5, Carr and Winston had 18.8, they're all going 6-8 rounds earlier ... I'm not sacrificing guys I can get with my 8th-rounders like Decker, Lacy, John Brown in order to get an extra point or two a week from my QB1.
Good analysis. The year I won this league I had the following QBs on my roster during the year:
Having said that I don't want to give up value to move into the early 13th if I can get the same guy in the same range or lower later on.
I think you did very well here.OK, so I've paid Dodds value to move up twice now. Fortunately both have been with fellow FBG'ers
2.11 Murray, DeMarco TEN RB RB10
3.04 Fournette, Leonard JAC RB RB10
10.11 Riddick, Theo DET RB RB41
1.10 Nelson, Jordy GBP WR WR6
5.05 Bryant, Martavis PIT WR WR28
8.01 Decker, Eric TEN WR WR40
10.03 Britt, Kenny CLE WR WR50
3.05 Kelce, Travis KCC TE TE2
6.11E [71], 7.04D [75], 8.07D [91], 9.04D [100], 9.12F [108], 11.06D [126], 13.10B [154], 14.04B [159], 15.12A [180], 17.10B [202], 18.03B [207]
QB: Still nothing here but I have a lot of mid- to late-round picks left to play with. Trusting in the wisdom of my IBL elders that startable names will be available later on in the late drafts.
RB: I think Murray's being undervalued this year - he's a top-8 back in my mind. The TEN offense has further upside (14th-ranked last year) so despite a larger share of touches for Henry and new receiving weapons, this should be a bigger pie overall. Riddick's fall across all drafts in this format baffles me ... he's AVERAGED 5 catches per game the past two years. Should be a flex-worthy option almost every week at an RB41 cost. After some deliberation, despite the start-1 format I decided to grab a second high-end RB ... already having safe names in Murray and Riddick means I can take a shot on the rook here, and if nothing else elite RBs carry massive trade value in-season, so if Marrone is to be believed (which I do ... having Bortles throw 625 times again reminds me of that definition of insanity) and Fournette flashes, worst case I could deal him for A-Rob or DT plus. With a reasonable floor and ceiling here the rest of my RB squad will most likely be second-string names with some chance of taking over starting duties.
WR: By trading down multiple times into the 6th-9th rounds I had a vision for my WR corps ... one stud, 2-3 reliable possession guys, 2-3 high-risk, high-ceiling young guys. All going according to plan thus far with Jordy, Decker as my high-floor name, and Bryant and Britt as high-ceiling guys. Looking to get at least two more mid-rounders in the mix here and will probably throw a couple late-round darts as well.
TE: Basically ran to the podium with Kelce's name - potential for a Gronk-type season IMO and with the time I'll most likely spend playing the "who do I start" dance at WR (and possibly QB) it'll be nice to have at least one set-and-forget position.
So now with all my remaining mid-rounders in DEF and all my late-rounders in ABC, I'll be in the interesting position of trying to fill the back end of my roster before the middle. Let's see how it shakes out ...
starter wise your 6.11 and 7.04 are the only picks that can "technically" upgrade your base starting lineup...(unless something juicy falls)...which IMO allows you to use one of those or at least your 8.07 at QB.....OK, so I've paid Dodds value to move up twice now. Fortunately both have been with fellow FBG'ers
2.11 Murray, DeMarco TEN RB RB10
3.04 Fournette, Leonard JAC RB RB10
10.11 Riddick, Theo DET RB RB41
1.10 Nelson, Jordy GBP WR WR6
5.05 Bryant, Martavis PIT WR WR28
8.01 Decker, Eric TEN WR WR40
10.03 Britt, Kenny CLE WR WR50
3.05 Kelce, Travis KCC TE TE2
6.11E [71], 7.04D [75], 8.07D [91], 9.04D [100], 9.12F [108], 11.06D [126], 13.10B [154], 14.04B [159], 15.12A [180], 17.10B [202], 18.03B [207]
I'm just here so I don't get fined.....(me talking about your WR options...not saying you take Lynch)
I just can't get behind Adams at his ADP this year. It's probably reasonable, but I'll pass just the same. Tate you can almost certainly get coming back in the 4th. I'd be fine with either Fitz or Crabtree but I don't love having a WR1 whose best-case scenario is probably high-end WR2. Have you thought about Pryor?
I've been updating the one at that link you sent a couple pages ago. Not up to the minute or anything, but I usually get to it a couple times a day.
Best ball maybe, but I want nothing to do with that mess in NO.
well with Beckham and Gronk, I was going to have questions at RB regardless
Last year (although it didn't pan out) out of the one hole we netted AB and Julio and then made enough favorable trades to get all of the picks back except for something like a 6th round pick that was missing. That being said, I lived on the boards working trades for almost two weeks straight.And my first impression from Ref's team is it's probably as important to have active traders on the teams at the turns as it is in the early drafts. If most of your picks stay in one draft and you know that every time 20-22 names are going off the board between your picks, sooner or later you're going to start reaching to get your guys. I like his team overall but he lucked out in the sense that a lot of "his guys" happened to have ADPs right around where his draft slot was. It could have played out a lot worse.
The meta-observation ... after we win this year and get first choice of boards next year, we should target a board where the 1/2/11/12 teams are in the ABC drafts so we can kill both birds with one stone.
