2017 IBL (1 Viewer)

[Stinkin Ref]

And my first impression from Ref's team is it's probably as important to have active traders on the teams at the turns as it is in the early drafts. If most of your picks stay in one draft and you know that every time 20-22 names are going off the board between your picks, sooner or later you're going to start reaching to get your guys. I like his team overall but he lucked out in the sense that a lot of "his guys" happened to have ADPs right around where his draft slot was. It could have played out a lot worse.

The meta-observation ... after we win this year and get first choice of boards next year, we should target a board where the 1/2/11/12 teams are in the ABC drafts so we can kill both birds with one stone. 

My bad....

 

[BassNBrew]

I'm liking Watson late in this league.

 

[Clash of the Titans]

Teams look good at this point - if anyone needs any assistance with anything this season let me know......I will be checking in regularly ?

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

My bad....

Not slagging on you GB ... I do like your team, stuff happens every year, the best laid plans yada yada. And anyway, as the rook in his first rodeo I'm not the expert on how anyone else should be drafting ...

Glad you were able to move over and get Rawls, though ... he's my target with one of those late-rounders as well ... I don't trust Lacy as far as I could throw his gigantic ###.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Not slagging on you GB ... I do like your team, stuff happens every year, the best laid plans yada yada. And anyway, as the rook in his first rodeo I'm not the expert on how anyone else should be drafting ...

Glad you were able to move over and get Rawls, though ... he's my target with one of those late-rounders as well ... I don't trust Lacy as far as I could throw his gigantic ###.

I agree on Lacy but Rawls is the suck.

 

[BassNBrew]

I agree on Lacy but Rawls is the suck.

Surprised Ref didn't get enough of that boat anchor Rawls last year

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Guess ill be the weak link and disappoint you guys....we'll see how it shakes out....hopefully dont drag us down too much....I definitely have some swing and misses on my resume in fantasy....

although i did win the individual title by myself in this bad boy my first year.....from the 12 hole .....with zero trades (iirc cause I suck at trades)...

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Not slagging on you GB ... I do like your team, stuff happens every year, the best laid plans yada yada. And anyway, as the rook in his first rodeo I'm not the expert on how anyone else should be drafting ...

Glad you were able to move over and get Rawls, though ... he's my target with one of those late-rounders as well ... I don't trust Lacy as far as I could throw his gigantic ###.

Guess Im not sure what you mean by stuff happens....best laid plans, etc....yada..for me things worked out early as I hoped...curious as what you think went sideways.....just for my own info and improvement....respect all MDF guys opinions....

 

[renesauz]

E draft is flying. Was hoping to put my pick off until morning but came OTC a bit soon. Checked in from work to find multiple offers on the table. Was all set to just take E. Sanders, but one of those offers was +6% so I took it.

BTSW slid over and tooik Sanders a few picks later...no biggie

Have picks coming up in B, E and F in the AM, hopefully at least one of those E or F picks is OTC before I go to bed
    

4.08F,13.01B for my  5.09E, 9.09E...

 

[BassNBrew]

E draft is flying. Was hoping to put my pick off until morning but came OTC a bit soon. Checked in from work to find multiple offers on the table. Was all set to just take E. Sanders, but one of those offers was +6% so I took it.

BTSW slid over and tooik Sanders a few picks later...no biggie

Have picks coming up in B, E and F in the AM, hopefully at least one of those E or F picks is OTC before I go to bed
    

4.08F,13.01B for my  5.09E, 9.09E...

Nice trade.

 

[renesauz]

1.09 McCoy

2.04 Gordon

3.09 A. Robinson

4.04 Crabtree

AT 6.04E, was hard to ignore Matt Ryan still on the board. None of the WRs were particularly exciting, and wasn't thrilled to go for my third RB.

At 4.08F, was staring at Greg Olsen, and debating between him, and one of several WRs (Sanders, Diggs, Benjamin). Decided I liked my odds of finding a decent WR3 in the 7/8th rounds more than my odds of hitting on a studly TE

McCoy, Gordon at RB

Robinson, Crabtree at WR

Matty Ice at QB, Olsen at TE

I like it

 

[Sweet Love]

I'm usually an extremely active trader in this league and have always gone off in the first flight of drafts. I've made up to 20 trades before and picked in all 8 drafts. This year, between vacation last week and working the next 4 out of 5 night-shifts, it's entirely possible I make no trades at all. It's definitely easier to collect value in trades in the first flight of drafts.

1.09 McCoy

2.04 Gordon

Would have never considered opening RB/RB under the rules 2 years ago, but we can start 3 now and both of these guys fell to me a few picks behind ADP. Might dangle McCoy later depending on how the rest of my draft falls.

3.09 A. Robinson

4.04 Crabtree

Again, not overly excited about Robinson at 3.09, but felt like good value. Love Crabs at WR2. Strongly considered taking Olsen at 4.04.

Our drafts are shaping up similarly.  I have McCoy and Freeman from the 11th spot (very good value), but got caught in my drafts and had the WRs I really wanted snagged just before me.  I settled on Tate and Crabtree at 3.11 in D and 4.02 in F...not bad, but it was just funny because I wanted Edelman and he was gone in D, but if I had the 3.11 in F, I would have gotten him...oh well!  I was tempted to take Lamar Miller at my 3.11 and start 3 RBs, but when comparing him to Tate, I thought they were a wash, and having Tate gives me more lineup flexibility.  

 

[Pickle Rody]

From the #1 slot in E:

1.01 - Johnson, David ARI RB

2.12 - Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB

3.01 - Hopkins, DeAndre HOU WR

4.12 - Lynch, Marshawn OAK RB

5.01 - Edelman, Julian NEP WR

I'm okay with this start. We'll see how the next two picks shake out.

 

[Sweet Love]

From the #1 slot in E:

1.01 - Johnson, David ARI RB

2.12 - Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB

3.01 - Hopkins, DeAndre HOU WR

4.12 - Lynch, Marshawn OAK RB

5.01 - Edelman, Julian NEP WR

I'm okay with this start. We'll see how the next two picks shake out.

Normally, I would not have loved getting a QB early, but the value you had in your draft in the 4th/5th in regards to WRs was a coup...That is going to be a nice starting lineup.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Guess Im not sure what you mean by stuff happens....best laid plans, etc....yada..for me things worked out early as I hoped...curious as what you think went sideways.....just for my own info and improvement....respect all MDF guys opinions....

I didn't remember you saying you weren't planning on doing any trading so I assumed it was you having a life to live that got in the way ... didn't realize it was a conscious plan of yours or maybe I just missed it in an earlier post. My bad either way. 

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I didn't remember you saying you weren't planning on doing any trading so I assumed it was you having a life to live that got in the way ... didn't realize it was a conscious plan of yours or maybe I just missed it in an earlier post. My bad either way. 

No worries....i mis understood your post...all good

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

1.09 McCoy

2.04 Gordon

3.09 A. Robinson

4.04 Crabtree

AT 6.04E, was hard to ignore Matt Ryan still on the board. None of the WRs were particularly exciting, and wasn't thrilled to go for my third RB.

At 4.08F, was staring at Greg Olsen, and debating between him, and one of several WRs (Sanders, Diggs, Benjamin). Decided I liked my odds of finding a decent WR3 in the 7/8th rounds more than my odds of hitting on a studly TE

McCoy, Gordon at RB

Robinson, Crabtree at WR

Matty Ice at QB, Olsen at TE

I like it

This is a fantastic start Rene. And you're not going to have any trouble finding a WR3 in that range that's better than decent. Cobb, T. Williams, Davis/Decker, Moncrief should all be options for you there - the value at WR in that range has been better than at any other position IMO.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Not sure what I think...I've done some dealing within the FBG team.  Wasn't able to snag a 2nd anywhere but I have an extra 3rd in my pocket coming in G (3.07G):

1.04: J. Jones

3.06: L. Miller

4.07: L. Fitz

4.09: I. Crowell

5.04: M. Ryan

meh..

ETA: 5.12 E. Sanders (was a 6.11)

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

I've decided to conduct an experiment to determine whether I can draft a guy with the express intent of flipping him in a later draft.

15.12 Mr. Irrelevant (FBG 10B) - Engram, Evan NYG TE (R) - Thu Aug 10 7:16:10 p.m. ET 2017

I'm not even that high on Engram's redraft prospects ... but he went 12.09 in A and 12.07 in B. Curious to see if I can turn the 180th overall pick into a 12th- or 13th-rounder that I can actually use.

If I get stuck with him ... oh well, my team's probably in bad shape anyway if I lose Kelce for a long period, so I might as well throw a dart at a TE with a high ceiling rather than WW fodder like Fiedorowicz or Cook.

 

[BassNBrew]

@renesauz you're up in Love Child.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

moved back into the 5th with my late 6th and a swap of one spot in the 8th...but gave up an 11th for a 14th. 

 

[renesauz]

@renesauz you're up in Love Child.

got it. Had a very busy shift at work and no chances to check in to MFL. Lost one too :(

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

moved back into the 5th with my late 6th and a swap of one spot in the 8th...but gave up an 11th for a 14th. 

You moved back three rounds in the 11th to move up a round-plus into the 5th? I make that trade every day of the week. 

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

You moved back three rounds in the 11th to move up a round-plus into the 5th? I make that trade every day of the week. 

Turned that 6.11E you traded to me into a 5.12F and picked up E. Sanders (homer pick)..I'll take it.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

2.11 Murray, DeMarco TEN RB    RB10
3.04 Fournette, Leonard JAC RB    RB10
10.11 Riddick, Theo DET RB    RB41

1.10 Nelson, Jordy GBP WR    WR6
5.05 Bryant, Martavis PIT WR    WR28
8.01 Decker, Eric TEN WR    WR40
10.03 Britt, Kenny CLE WR    WR50

3.05 Kelce, Travis KCC TE    TE2

15.12 Engram, Evan NYG TE   TE25

Question for the IBL vets - someone out there is dangling Dez for a 2nd-round RB. If you could swap Murray off my roster for Dez in this format, would you do it? I assume I'll be able to get a guy like CJA or Martin with my 7th-rounder but even so that seems like a thin RB core. But the prospect of two plug-and-play studs at WR is pretty appealing ...

 

[Sweet Love]

Question for the IBL vets - someone out there is dangling Dez for a 2nd-round RB. If you could swap Murray off my roster for Dez in this format, would you do it? I assume I'll be able to get a guy like CJA or Martin with my 7th-rounder but even so that seems like a thin RB core. But the prospect of two plug-and-play studs at WR is pretty appealing ...

Mr. I, I am not sure that I would do that.  I may be interpreting this wrong, but under the new system with two flex roles, it seems to me that the best way to build your team is via best player available.  I also like your WRs, and it means one if not two (depending how you play) will be on the bench, and that is without Dez.  Just my opinion, but I would stand pat.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Mr. I, I am not sure that I would do that.  I may be interpreting this wrong, but under the new system with two flex roles, it seems to me that the best way to build your team is via best player available.  I also like your WRs, and it means one if not two (depending how you play) will be on the bench, and that is without Dez.  Just my opinion, but I would stand pat.

Moot point now as he got someone else to bite.  Appreciate the feedback though.

 

[renesauz]

Woke up to nine offers on the table for my 7.09E. Looks like all of them are in the 2-3% my favor ballpark, but two of them were for a 7.03 straight up...hard to resist that.

Mr. I around? ONe offer was an intra from him my 7.9 and 8.4 for his 7.4 and 8.7

 

[BassNBrew]

@renesauz  I can't log into G

THE EMAIL ADDRESS ENTERED DOES NOT MATCH THE EMAIL ADDRESS OF FRANCHISE BASSNBREW (FBG 3G). PLEASE USE THE 'COMMUNICATIONS > EMAIL TO COMMISSIONER' MENU TO CONTACT YOUR COMMISSIONER IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE.

 

[renesauz]

DOesn't matter, I have to take this offer from extreme...+16% on Dodds.

Mr I. I know your target...feel free to have someone grab it with my 8.4 pick if he's still there and we can work out a trade later. Hopefully my night is a bit smoother and slower then last night...never could check in last night

 

[Duckboy]

I have 7.12E coming up as well if you need to work something.

 

[BassNBrew]

@renesauz  I can't log into G

THE EMAIL ADDRESS ENTERED DOES NOT MATCH THE EMAIL ADDRESS OF FRANCHISE BASSNBREW (FBG 3G). PLEASE USE THE 'COMMUNICATIONS > EMAIL TO COMMISSIONER' MENU TO CONTACT YOUR COMMISSIONER IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE.

@renesauz

Pretty please.

 

[renesauz]

@renesauz

Pretty please.

hmmmm....asked in the chat box if another commish could help as I was running late getting out to work. will reset you now

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

tygoat
Jay Ajayi, D. Woodhead, B. Powell, ware, T. West,  burkhead

OBJ, Snead, Sanders, T. Williams, B. Perriman, JJ Nelson, john ross

Kelce

atlanta

caleb sturgis

8.10H 94, 10.07F 115            
 

 

[renesauz]

Made my second trade UP this year...after doing maybe 2 in last 3 years. But feel like it was terrific value:

moved my 8.4, 10.4, 11.9 for 6.10, 12.6 and 13.7? All in E except the 6.10 is in H

Up a round and a half into high impact pick, moved two mediocre dart throws to...one mediocre and one below average dart throw?

Roster now looks like:

6.04E - QB Matt Ryan ATL
1.09E - RB LeSean McCoy BUF
2.04E - RB Melvin Gordon LAC
3.09E - WR Allen Robinson JAC
4.04E - WR Michael Crabtree OAK
13.01B - WR Ted Ginn Jr. NOS
4.08F - TE Greg Olsen CAR

6.10H
7.03D

12.04E

12.06E

13.07E
13.09E
14.04E
15.09E
16.04E
17.09E
18.04E

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Any FBG'ers have a strong preference between Anderson and Ingram this season? My 7.04 is coming up shortly and I suspect they'll both be there if I want them but I'm torn on which direction to go.

Either would be my RB3, though probably in practice, neither would get a lot of run in my lineup unless Fournette bombs out of the gate. Or should I punt another RB until a later round and grab best WR available?

 

[BassNBrew]

Made my second trade UP this year...after doing maybe 2 in last 3 years. But feel like it was terrific value:

moved my 8.4, 10.4, 11.9 for 6.10, 12.6 and 13.7? All in E except the 6.10 is in H

Up a round and a half into high impact pick, moved two mediocre dart throws to...one mediocre and one below average dart throw?

Roster now looks like:

6.04E - QB Matt Ryan ATL
1.09E - RB LeSean McCoy BUF
2.04E - RB Melvin Gordon LAC
3.09E - WR Allen Robinson JAC
4.04E - WR Michael Crabtree OAK
13.01B - WR Ted Ginn Jr. NOS
4.08F - TE Greg Olsen CAR

6.10H
7.03D

12.04E

12.06E

13.07E
13.09E
14.04E
15.09E
16.04E
17.09E
18.04E

I really like this team

 

[Pickle Rody]

Got offered:

13.09G (153) & 14.04G (160)

for my......

10.12E (120) & 16.12E (192)

9% in my favor but I'm not sure I like it. Talk me into why I should make this trade.....please.

Rody

 

[renesauz]

Got offered:

13.09G (153) & 14.04G (160)

for my......

10.12E (120) & 16.12E (192)

9% in my favor but I'm not sure I like it. Talk me into why I should make this trade.....please.

Rody

because it's a lousy offer.

Dodds trade calculator is WORTHLESS on late picks, at some point values start going back UP. Look closer...back 33 picks to move up 32 picks, in LATER rounds? It's a big loser, regardless what the calculator says.

Don't even bother using the calculator for any picks after about 140, and apply skepticism at 120. To make this reasonable, you'd need to change your 16.12 to your 18.12

 

[Pickle Rody]

Thanks Rene....those were my thoughts but, wanted to see if there were any compelling reasons to make the trade. Easy decline.

 

[BassNBrew]

Hi jerry

Screw it.  Done!   I don't have access to the message board so I'll have a teammate accept on my behalf. 

Thanks.  Doug

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2017, at 7:31 PM, Jerry Grula <[email protected]> wrote:
 

Hi Bassnbrew,

Thanks for showing interest in a trade.  I'm looking for someone who, like me, thinks DJ is the undisputed top FF talent this year and it isn't close, and willing to pay a premium for it.  Also I'm not interested in 1.03; what I would be interested in is some of your next few picks.  Something like:

I give from H:

1.01 (1)

6.12 (72)

10.12(120)

You give from G:

2.10 (22)

3.03 (27)

5.03 (51)

That's a 4% Dodd's benefit to me.  You get the top RB and 1.03 pick (I'd guess Brown, top WR), which is an impressive squad.  I've always wanted to try amassing picks in this range, although I'm concerned about not drafting until 2.10.  Thoughts?

Thanks,

Jerry

 

[BassNBrew]

Some please approve the above when posted for me

 

[Sweet Love]

Hi jerry

Screw it.  Done!   I don't have access to the message board so I'll have a teammate accept on my behalf. 

Thanks.  Doug

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2017, at 7:31 PM, Jerry Grula <[email protected]> wrote:
 

Hi Bassnbrew,

Thanks for showing interest in a trade.  I'm looking for someone who, like me, thinks DJ is the undisputed top FF talent this year and it isn't close, and willing to pay a premium for it.  Also I'm not interested in 1.03; what I would be interested in is some of your next few picks.  Something like:

I give from H:

1.01 (1)

6.12 (72)

10.12(120)

You give from G:

2.10 (22)

3.03 (27)

5.03 (51)

That's a 4% Dodd's benefit to me.  You get the top RB and 1.03 pick (I'd guess Brown, top WR), which is an impressive squad.  I've always wanted to try amassing picks in this range, although I'm concerned about not drafting until 2.10.  Thoughts?

Thanks,

Jerry

I am not sure I understand..you get 1.01, 1.03 and the 2.10 ??  What do you mean by not drafting until 2.10?

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I took kc as my main dst and ran out of picks cause i wanted to add Thompson instead of BUF dst...i would prefer not to start kc against ne week 1 and would like to start BUF at home against nyj....if anybody doesnt love anything and wants to snag BUF dst i will throw them Boldin or something for a week...

 

[BassNBrew]

Moved into 1.1 for David Johnson. Still have 1.3

 

[BassNBrew]

Someone please approve the trade posted by jerry wherever they are posted these days

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Moved into 1.1 for David Johnson. Still have 1.3

LMAO - Jiminy Christmas, did you pull one over on that guy. What a deal.

ETA: And it took 17 whole seconds after the draft began for you to take DJ. Reminds me of myself constantly refreshing the Southwest web site 24 hours before my flight check-ins. 

 

[BassNBrew]

1.1 David Johnson

1.3 Antonio Brown

4.10

6.10

6.12

7.03

8.10

9.3

10.10

10.12

 

[Sweet Love]

1.1 David Johnson

1.3 Antonio Brown

4.10

6.10

6.12

7.03

8.10

9.3

10.10

10.12

Now I get it...yeah, that is a nice move.  When you pulled this off last year, I think you ended with a little bad luck (top players being a little banged up, later guys not coming through).  In fact, IIRC, you got off to a slow start, but started to gain steam at the end (it was just too late).  Curious to see how this one goes.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

2.11 Murray, DeMarco TEN RB    RB10
3.04 Fournette, Leonard JAC RB    RB10
10.11 Riddick, Theo DET RB    RB41

1.10 Nelson, Jordy GBP WR    WR6
5.05 Bryant, Martavis PIT WR    WR28
8.01 Decker, Eric TEN WR    WR40
10.01 Thielen, Adam MIN WR    WR48
10.03 Britt, Kenny CLE WR    WR50
14.03 Beasley, Cole DAL WR    WR61

3.05 Kelce, Travis KCC TE    TE2
15.12 Engram, Evan NYG TE    TE25

6.05G [65]
8.04G [88]
10.07D [115]
12.04G [136]
13.06E [150]
17.10B [202] - PK predrafted
18.03B [207] - DST predrafted

Made some lateral moves into G after missing out on a few of my targets in the 9th and 10th (Cobb, Rawls, Wilson). Probably going to try to package the 6th and 8th-rounders to move up and grab one more stud WR to mitigate the potential WDIS headaches.

Any FBGers grabbed a backup QB yet? If not, the rook will have three or four 12th-14th rounders when all is said and done and I can take one for the team (literally).