I'm fighting the good fight brother....this probably won't end well...
read from bottom up.....as thats how they came to me...I bolded the beginnings....not sure what the middle one means where he says "you mean clash"....I think that is a response to me telling him to tell Old MIl himself if he had a problem instead of me doing it...this top response is what I just sent....dude is on a power trip....
Re: Clash of the Titans
Sent: Mon 07.31.2017, 13:03
by Stinkin Ref
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not t o be a d-bag....but you said if you recall correctly (the other 5)....meaning you are not really sure and you leaving the door open for being wrong about that....so 5-3 could really be 4-4 or 3-5 the other way if you are wrong...
so bottom line you are saying making your pick or transaction in the allotted time by rule is against the rules somehow and suspend-able....if some group chooses to bring it up and vote on it....
and you are also saying getting kicked out of the league for said "violation" even though it really isn't a violation is the "lightest" penalty......let's not maybe shorten his clock, or not allow him to trade, or pick his draft slot, maybe something back to back, maybe if he times out ever (which he has never done) then you kick him out....or any combination.....but no...let's just kick him out....
you (guys, whoever that is)...do realize that you would be laughed out of any courtroom or union vs league meeting/discussion for this "voting" and handing down a suspension for something where somebody didn't do anything wrong and was playing by the very rules you created....you are actually making up a rule as you go along with this vote..
new rule #1: if an owner is taking too long to pick even though they are not actually timing out, we reserve the right to just call a vote and that owner will be kicked out of the league the following year....
bravo.....(insert golf clap)...
a guy hasn't timed out in 12 years and he is abusing/milking the clock....I don't care who you are....that's pretty funny.....
Re: Clash of the Titans
Sent: Mon 07.31.2017, 12:15
by _Dagorhir_
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hello Ref,
I've messaged Clash about his suspension.
look we don't want to lose a die hard like Clash but the repeated milking just upset too many players who would wait hours and hours while 'seeing' him online... over and over again...
the one year suspension is of course i think the 'lightest' penalty we could vote on as well.
as i mentioned before he's free to come back in 2018.
please let me know if i can help you with this.
i can maybe get Voltaire to come back and he's as strong as Clash.
thank you
dag
steve
Re: Clash of the Titans
Sent: Mon 07.31.2017, 12:04
by _Dagorhir_
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okay.
you mean clash?
i'll message him since the message i left at FFT was before he was registered here.
thanks for working this out with me.
i sincerely appreciate it.
Re: Clash of the Titans
Sent: Mon 07.31.2017, 12:02
by _Dagorhir_
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i think my last response is inappropriate.
i apologise.
you have stated trying to work through this so i will.
---i stated friday that clash was suspended, not this morning.
yet clash was still added later that day.
here is my post from friday morning:
PM sent to Clash at FFT:
Hello Clash,
its been brought to my attention you are trying to get on the FBG's club again but Dan and I among others warned you about milking the clock and it was decided in the now hacked FFLW Commish Forum that you wouldn't be welcomed back in 2017. i have now taken over at Dan(FFT) has stepped down and I am notifying you that you have a 1 Year Suspension from the IBL.
You may return in 2018.
I groove on you Clash, I do, but you just abused the Clock too many times every year and it resulted in your 1 year suspension.
Take Care,
Steve K.
aka Dagorhir
this shouldn't have been a surprise.
Clash continually has milked the clock, yes, while never timing out but getting really damb close.
every year he pisses off 80 guys it seems.
he's been warned over and over.
clash has been seen online while OTC and then leaving for hours and hours, milking and milking and it has to stop.
this resulting in finally a 1 year suspension.
not a ban like axe elf got, but a 1 year suspension.
i can understand you guys don't want to lose clash, i do. i lie clash, he is solid but he has been warned over and over.
i will not waste time brining this to a vote when the issue is not fresh in the voters' heads.
besides, this was already decided.
sleeperU abstained
zealots may have sided with clash and of course FBG's sided with clash(understandably so).
that leaves LW, SO, FFT, Huddle and Sharks.
if i recall correctly those last 5 all voted to suspend him for one year.
i understand that it isn't easy to take losing a player like clash. i do. i honestly do, but the Vote suspended him as a whole entity.
it's every year.
k, i gotta reread your last and reply to that.
thanks,
steve