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2019 College football thread - It's 2020, yo. Go to the new thread. (8 Viewers)

General Malaise said:
How has OU done on the playoffs to date?  Can't recall off-hand, but haven't they been pretty bad as a Final Four team?  Why would this year be any different? 
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I think bad but the fact that they keep getting there proves my point - rightly or wrongly people see Oklahoma > Utah.  They can claim each year stands on its on but I’m not sure anybody believes that.

 
What’s changing the minds of the Committee to push OU over Utah? They’ve been consistent there since the first poll.

 
AAABatteries said:
I don’t think they win - LSU is better and playing really well.  However, UGA has the talent to hang and a couple of turnovers could change the game.
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I'm just saying as a UF fan i thought Mullen's best coaching this season was keeping it close midway thru third quarter vs LSU. LSU was a far superior team than the Gators and it was just a matter of time. Against UGA, the Bulldogs were the better team and deserved to win but i felt like Mullen had substantially closed the talent gap.

Also I think Burreaux is the real deal and Fromm is extremely overrated.

 
Michael Detillier
@MikeDetillier

“I wasn’t the 1st or 2nd choice for the naysayers,but I got the job. I will work day & night to get LSU back to the top. Negative folks will laugh at this but in a short period of time LSU will be in the SEC Championship Game & playing for the National title” Coach O Feb/2017

...

Mike Detillier is a local college and pro football analyst. He's bringing up an old quote of Orgeron's from back when Coach O was first hired.

Their numbers are shrinking slowly, but there is a contingent of LSU fans that still thinks Orgeron is a foul-up and is terrible for the LSU program. It hurts their hearts to change their minds in the face of new information ... so it seems they can't quite enjoy the current LSU success as much as those who've bought in earlier on.

 
Was listening to a radio show last night and they were saying that Urban Meyer would have probably stayed at OSU if he knew Fields was quitting the Georgia team and coming to OSU. Consensus was the Fields transfer basically saved the season for OSU.  They would have still had a bunch of NFL talent but be very weak at QB.

 
AAABatteries said:
I think bad but the fact that they keep getting there proves my point - rightly or wrongly people see Oklahoma > Utah.  They can claim each year stands on its on but I’m not sure anybody believes that.
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FWIW i think Utah gives either LSU or tOSU a better game than Oklahoma based on their defense. 

 
JaxBill said:
I'm just saying as a UF fan i thought Mullen's best coaching this season was keeping it close midway thru third quarter vs LSU. LSU was a far superior team than the Gators and it was just a matter of time. Against UGA, the Bulldogs were the better team and deserved to win but i felt like Mullen had substantially closed the talent gap.

Also I think Burreaux is the real deal and Fromm is extremely overrated.
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Summer Wheat said:
Was listening to a radio show last night and they were saying that Urban Meyer would have probably stayed at OSU if he knew Fields was quitting the Georgia team and coming to OSU. Consensus was the Fields transfer basically saved the season for OSU.  They would have still had a bunch of NFL talent but be very weak at QB.
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Even though I’ll be rooting for LSU, I’d love a scenario where UGA fans collective heads explode when Fields beats them in the playoff.

 
JaxBill said:
FWIW i think Utah gives either LSU or tOSU a better game than Oklahoma based on their defense. 
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I haven’t given comment on Utah as I haven’t watched them play once this year.  I want whichever team can be the best matchup to get 4th.  Before the Tua injury I thought that would be Bama - now I genuinely have no clue.

 
gump said:
What’s changing the minds of the Committee to push OU over Utah? They’ve been consistent there since the first poll.
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After the CCGs?  Maybe beating Baylor twice?  I honestly don't know.  :shrug:  

If the committee ends up split on OU and Utah, I have no problem with them giving the nod to Utah even if their only reason is "new blood/we've seen OU before."   The OU fanbase would obviously have a problem with that though.

 
If he were fired today, Jimbo Fisher would be owed $60,657,534.00 by Texas A&M, with $15,164,383.50 due by January 29 #12thman #wrts #gigemgang2020

these contracts are silly

 
WDIK2 said:
After the CCGs?  Maybe beating Baylor twice?  I honestly don't know.  :shrug:  

If the committee ends up split on OU and Utah, I have no problem with them giving the nod to Utah even if their only reason is "new blood/we've seen OU before."   The OU fanbase would obviously have a problem with that though.
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or put another way, they didn't want to exclude Pac 12 for 3rd straight year.

 
AAABatteries said:
I’m not a big believer in Baylor but they just destroyed Kansas and will be a formidable opponent.  As will Oregon for Utah.  I think it probably comes down to the perception of the PAC-12 and that Oklahoma is kind of a CFB blue blood.  We may get an indication based on this weeks rankings.  I’m not sure they would deserve to jump Utah but if they do then I think it’s Oklahoma’s to lose assuming UGA loses.
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Well if they destroyed Kansas I mean give them the 1st seed 

 
Summer Wheat said:
Was listening to a radio show last night and they were saying that Urban Meyer would have probably stayed at OSU if he knew Fields was quitting the Georgia team and coming to OSU. Consensus was the Fields transfer basically saved the season for OSU.  They would have still had a bunch of NFL talent but be very weak at QB.
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They were winning the game whether or not he was there. Michigan's defense is bad, and Don Brown at the very least should be fired, and honestly, Harbaugh should go as well. He isn't the coach to make Michigan relevant again. I'm not sure who is, but I know he isn't.

 
Summer Wheat said:
Was listening to a radio show last night and they were saying that Urban Meyer would have probably stayed at OSU if he knew Fields was quitting the Georgia team and coming to OSU. Consensus was the Fields transfer basically saved the season for OSU.  They would have still had a bunch of NFL talent but be very weak at QB.
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No way.  He has a contract with his family.

 
culdeus said:
Well if they destroyed Kansas I mean give them the 1st seed 
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Yep - that’s fair and I didn’t explain my thought well.  They’ve played really well and probably should have beaten OU the first time.  Kansas has just looked bad lately and not like the worst P5 team.  

 
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JaxBill said:
or put another way, they didn't want to exclude Pac 12 for 3rd straight year.
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OTOH, who has Utah beaten so far that makes them a choice for #4?  I'm not opposed to seeing them play there; I'm just not convinced they've had any serious competition plus there's that cringe-inducing loss to USC.  At least Baylor has lost to Oklahoma, and if they avenge that, they'll have beaten everyone on their schedule.

 
Tom Servo said:
OTOH, who has Utah beaten so far that makes them a choice for #4?  I'm not opposed to seeing them play there; I'm just not convinced they've had any serious competition plus there's that cringe-inducing loss to USC.  At least Baylor has lost to Oklahoma, and if they avenge that, they'll have beaten everyone on their schedule.
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That was a close loss to USC, who was 8-4.  "Cringeworthy"?   Ok....

If they throttle Oregon (and they will) Utah will go to the playoffs.  IMO.  

 
AAABatteries said:
I think bad but the fact that they keep getting there proves my point - rightly or wrongly people see Oklahoma > Utah.  They can claim each year stands on its on but I’m not sure anybody believes that.
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Yeah OU is O-3. 
 

Clemson, UGa, and Bama. 

 
Jake Bentley transferring. He will likely never again have to be on the opposite sideline while Clemson thumps his team. 

 
interesting tidbit from Chris Vannini in TheAthletic-

Strong’s buyout situation is tricky. Per his contract, the buyout is only 20 weeks of base salary, which is around $192,000. But most of Strong’s buyout is tied to the USF Foundation, which is a private entity. So it’s unknown how much exactly he’s owed.

His contract was backloaded to maximize his Texas buyout in the early years. His full USF salary jumped from $1 million in 2018 to $2.5 million this year, which was third in the American behind Houston’s Dana Holgorsen and Memphis’ Mike Norvell.

USF has been focusing its money efforts toward that football building. Will Strong’s buyout affect that, and will this affect how much money is available for the next staff?

 
@Brett_McMurphy: Lines for conference title games via @betonline_ag

http://bit.ly/BetOnlineCFB

Utah -5 Oregon
Oklahoma -9 Baylor
App State -3½ Louisiana
Central Michigan -6 Miami, Ohio
FAU -7 UAB
Memphis -10 Cincinnati
LSU -6½ Georgia
Boise St -15 Hawaii
Clemson -28 Virginia
Ohio St -17½ Wisconsin

 
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